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Re: [Healeys] Carmine Red vs Reno red

To: "Chris Scholz" <drscholz@visioncenterpc.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Carmine Red vs Reno red
From: "Earl Kagna" <kags@shaw.ca>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:51:12 -0700
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Carmine Red vs Reno redChris:

I=E2=80=99ve been watching this discussion with interest.  I=E2=80=99ve =
been looking through my copy of the Austin-Healey guide to historic =
colours by Donald Pikovnic.  I believe that the book is well researched =
and fairly accurate.  It reveals that Reno Red was carried over from the =
BN1 / BN2  cars for the early BN4=E2=80=99s, until Dec. 1956, when =
Colorado Red replaced it and was used to the end of production.  We now =
know that the colour did change slightly over the course of production, =
and that any red tended to fade slightly darker pretty quickly.  OEW was =
never a factory duotone option on red Healeys, but I have seen cars done =
that way and they looked very good to me.

The red used for the interior was in fact pretty dark =E2=80=93 not =
exactly tending towards real dark, but rather a sort of =
=E2=80=98plummy=E2=80=99 red.  One wouldn=E2=80=99t think that it would =
work well, but it did =E2=80=93 my BT7 tri-carb is Colorado Red with the =
original red interior =E2=80=93 restored, because parts of it had faded =
to brown.  I can send you a decent quality photo or two to ease your =
mind as to how it would look in a finished car.  (this is a gold level =
concours car, so it=E2=80=99s pretty accurate)

I can also try my best to scan and send the pages in the colour guide =
book showing all the reds used for big Healeys (there were actually 4).  =
These scans will have the mfg code and the old ICI code information =
included, which may help you get a modern paint code for the colours.  =
Bear in mind that there are limitations in scanning high quality paint =
or cosmetic colour samples, and I suggest a good quality colour monitor =
for viewing.  I=E2=80=99ve done a couple of test scans =E2=80=93 =
they=E2=80=99re not too bad, maybe it will help you.

Let me know.

Earl Kagna
Victoria, B.C.
BJ8, BT7 tri-carb

From: Chris Scholz=20
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 12:10 PM
To: Richard Collins=20
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Carmine Red vs Reno red

I cannot find a paint code for Reno red. I picked out a maroon and it =
looked poor with OEW. I would like to find the exact color for Reno red =
and paint a sample panel against OEW. Does anyone have an idea on the =
code for Reno red?  It is more rare.=20

Sent from my iPhone=20
Chris Scholz OD
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<DIV>I=E2=80=99ve been watching this discussion with interest.&nbsp; =
I=E2=80=99ve been looking=20
through my copy of the Austin-Healey guide to historic colours by Donald =

Pikovnic.&nbsp; I believe that the book is well researched and fairly=20
accurate.&nbsp; It reveals that Reno Red was carried over from the BN1 / =

BN2&nbsp; cars for the early BN4=E2=80=99s, until Dec. 1956, when =
Colorado Red replaced=20
it and was used to the end of production.&nbsp; We now know that the =
colour did=20
change slightly over the course of production, and that any red tended =
to fade=20
slightly darker pretty quickly.&nbsp; OEW was never a factory duotone =
option on=20
red Healeys, but I have seen cars done that way and they looked very =
good to=20
me.</DIV>
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<DIV>The red used for the interior was in fact pretty dark =E2=80=93 not =
exactly tending=20
towards real dark, but rather a sort of =E2=80=98plummy=E2=80=99 =
red.&nbsp; One wouldn=E2=80=99t think=20
that it would work well, but it did =E2=80=93 my BT7 tri-carb is =
Colorado Red with the=20
original red interior =E2=80=93 restored, because parts of it had faded =
to brown.&nbsp;=20
I can send you a decent quality photo or two to ease your mind as to how =
it=20
would look in a finished car.&nbsp; (this is a gold level concours car, =
so it=E2=80=99s=20
pretty accurate)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I can also try my best to scan and send the pages in the colour =
guide book=20
showing all the reds used for big Healeys (there were actually 4).&nbsp; =
These=20
scans will have the mfg code and the old ICI code information included, =
which=20
may help you get a modern paint code for the colours.&nbsp; Bear in mind =
that=20
there are limitations in scanning high quality paint or cosmetic colour =
samples,=20
and I suggest a good quality colour monitor for viewing.&nbsp; =
I=E2=80=99ve done a=20
couple of test scans =E2=80=93 they=E2=80=99re not too bad, maybe it =
will help you.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Let me know.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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12pt">Earl=20
Kagna<BR>Victoria, B.C.<BR>BJ8, BT7 tri-carb</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Ddrscholz@visioncenterpc.com=20
href=3D"mailto:drscholz@visioncenterpc.com";>Chris Scholz</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 10, 2015 12:10 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dgonnagitcha90@hotmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com";>Richard Collins</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Carmine Red vs Reno =
red</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>I cannot find a paint code for Reno red. I picked out a maroon and =
it=20
looked poor with OEW. I would like to find the exact color for Reno red =
and=20
paint a sample panel against OEW. Does anyone have an idea on the code =
for Reno=20
red?&nbsp; It is more rare. <BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone=20
<DIV>Chris Scholz OD</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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