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Anyone out there that has been in Q.A. systems will understand that Q.A
does not mean the product produced is of high quality. It simply means
that the crap produced is all crap within a defined limit.
Regards
Larry Varley
On 2/03/2015 8:31 PM, J Armour wrote:
> My experience with asian engineering products is that most small
> volume suppliers ( by their standards ) do not understand why we are
> obsessed with all this Quality stuff. After all look at some of the
> images we see of equipment they find acceptable to continue using.
> But in my case they can produce items to a required standard and this
> can be achieved at a price if 'we' have our inspectors on site. When
> the old sub-contract a local representative ( on cost basis ) there
> becomes the issue of who is paying whom for the acceptance of our
> goods? Local inspectors I suspect have greater loyalty to the terms
> of payment from an local asian company who will give then regular
> payments rather than a 'small' purchaser from , in my case Australia.
> Subcontracting relies on my piece of paper and its terms makes someone
> else responsible.
> Check on Google for the lastest supply problem and health problems
> with Chinese berries -- all having passed Chinese and Australian
> standards of food preparation. The ultimate responsibility was
> probably passed down to a farmer who still uses toilet waste for his
> fertiliser while a whole range of businessmen sit on their QA
> certificates.
>
> The company I worked for made a lot of money correcting the cheaper
> from overseas items bought into the country with Q.A. And Inspection
> documents supporting the goods to be ' as per order'.
>
> Some time ago in China I saw lightbulbs being assembled in a converted
> cow shed and I could hardly see the process as the shed had only one
> 40 watt lightbulb. They also had a pile of bicycle brake assembles
> laying on the ground. Another visit I was show around a major mining
> engineering workshop and there was a 250 mm bore very expensive roller
> bearing siting on the floor uncovered and with a layer of dust on and
> in the bearing. Their solution was we will wipe it over before
> installation and then have a bearing where we previously did not have
> a bearing = success!!!
>
>
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Anyone out there that has been in Q.A. systems will understand that
Q.A does not mean the product produced is of high quality. It simply
means that the crap produced is all crap within a defined limit.<br>
Regards<br>
Larry Varley<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/03/2015 8:31 PM, J Armour wrote:<br>
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<div>My experience with asian engineering products is that most
small volume suppliers ( by their standards ) do not understand
why we are obsessed with all this Quality stuff. After all look
at some of the images we see of equipment they find acceptable
to continue using.</div>
<div>But in my case they can produce items to a required standard
and this can be achieved at a price if 'we' have our inspectors
on site. When the old sub-contract a local representative ( on
cost basis ) there becomes the issue of who is paying whom for
the acceptance of our goods? Local inspectors I suspect have
greater loyalty to the terms of payment from an local asian
company who will give then regular payments rather than a
'small' purchaser from , in my case Australia. Subcontracting
relies on my piece of paper and its terms makes someone else
responsible.</div>
<div>Check on Google for the lastest supply problem and health
problems with Chinese berries -- all having passed Chinese and
Australian standards of food preparation. The ultimate
responsibility was probably passed down to a farmer who still
uses toilet waste for his fertiliser while a whole range of
businessmen sit on their QA certificates.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The company I worked for made a lot of money correcting the
cheaper from overseas items bought into the country with Q.A.
And Inspection documents supporting the goods to be ' as per
order'.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Some time ago in China I saw lightbulbs being assembled in a
converted cow shed and I could hardly see the process as the
shed had only one 40 watt lightbulb. They also had a pile of
bicycle brake assembles laying on the ground. Another visit I
was show around a major mining engineering workshop and there
was a 250 mm bore very expensive roller bearing siting on the
floor uncovered and with a layer of dust on and in the bearing.
Their solution was we will wipe it over before installation and
then have a bearing where we previously did not have a bearing =
success!!!</div>
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