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Re: [Healeys] Rear axle gasket question

To: David Porter <frogeye@porterscustom.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear axle gasket question
From: Wilko2 <e-wilkins@cox.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:13:23 -0800
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A little clarification...

What some are calling an "O-Ring" is not an O-ring at all (even though =
Moss calls it one) It's a squarish profiled seal between the bearing and =
the axle area toward the Diff. The paper gasket keeps the bearing grease =
from oozing out into the brake area. Don't ask me why I know this is =
important.

The so-called o-ring seals the inboard side, the paper gasket seals the =
outboard side.

Wilko.

On Jan 26, 2015, at 3:32 PM, David Porter wrote:

> ..the plot thickens...
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> On 1/26/2015 4:26 PM, Wilko2 wrote:
>> My BN6 has no O-ring, and the BMC workshop manual doesn't show one.=20=

>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Jan 26, 2015, at 3:19 PM, John Rowe wrote:
>>=20
>>> I am thinking that would BMC engineering in those days be so =
sophisticated that they would be worried about .004=94 to .010=94. =
Judging from what I have seen over the years, I doubt it. IIRC, I used a =
grey silicone as a sealer- works ok for me.
>>> John Rowe
>>> Qld Australia
>>> BN1 BT7
>>> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Michael Salter
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 7:46 AM
>>> To: Steve B. Gerow
>>> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear axle gasket question
>>> =20
>>> Well you may be over thinking it but you are at least keeping us =
amused :-)
>>> BTW the BN1, BN2 and 100S didn't have the "O" ring seal so I think =
in their cases the gasket was the seal..
>>> Pooffff goes that theory..
>>> Michael S
>>> BN1 #174
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Steve B. Gerow =
<steveg@abrazosdata.com> wrote:
>>> The whole idea of the gasket-as-shim has a certain logic to it - =
except the o-ring does the actual sealing, correct?
>>>=20
>>> Is this the idea: when we tighten the lug nuts, we compress the =
gasket from, say .014" to .010". At .010, the axle center makes contact =
with the spacer ring and bearing, coming to a stop. There is then .010" =
between the carrier and axle flange. The gasket takes up the slack - is =
the compressed gasket strong enough to in effect be a shim between these =
two parts?
>>>=20
>>> Michael - maybe when extra-tightening of the lug nuts, the axle =
flange is also bending slightly to take up this gap.
>>>=20
>>> Betcha I'm over-thinking this! :-)
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> --
>>> Steve Gerow
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> >  -------Original Message-------
>>> >  From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
>>> >  To: Steve B. Gerow <steveg@abrazosdata.com>
>>> >  Cc: warthodson@aol.com <warthodson@aol.com>, =
simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk, healeys@autox.team.net
>>> >  Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear axle gasket question
>>> >  Sent: Jan 26 '15 11:28
>>> >
>>> >  One other observation on this subject.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  This is, I believe, the only place on a Healey where 'conical" =
seat nuts
>>> >  are used.
>>> >  It has been my experience that conical seat nuts always require =
re-torquing
>>> >  after a little  use. Just like the lug nuts on your every day =
driver if
>>> >  you torque them up, then drive the car for a bit you will find =
that the
>>> >  nuts will take up to half a turn just to restore them to the =
original
>>> >  torque.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  That said however I do have to agree with Chris regarding =
aggressive use.
>>> >  On AHX12 we found it necessary to re-torque those nuts after =
every day of
>>> >  competition and they would always go on an additional flat or =
so.. I always
>>> >  wondered where that extra tightening room came from because after =
a week of
>>> >  Targa Newfoundland we would have tightened the nuts at least one =
full turn
>>> >  ... that's 0.055".
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  I "forgot" to mention to co-driver Michael O that a likely cause =
was
>>> >  stretching of the studs..:-).
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  Michael S
>>> >  [LINK: http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/ahx12.html]
>>> >  http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/ahx12.html
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Steve B. Gerow <[LINK:
>>> >  mailto:steveg@abrazosdata.com] steveg@abrazosdata.com> wrote:
>>> >  Some observations:
>>> >  New Moss gasket - .014"
>>> >  Old gasket originally coated with Hylomar, as removed from axle - =
.010"
>>> >
>>> >  .004" =3D copier paper
>>> >
>>> >  My axle is buttoned up with a new gasket and the rear =
rotor/caliper back
>>> >  in place or I'd try to do a science project here.
>>> >
>>> >  For a gasket thickness, perhaps if one were to bolt the assembly =
together
>>> >  without gasket and measure the gap with shims, then add .003" to =
that.
>>> >
>>> >  The new bearing, assembled with heat and cold per Tom Monaco's
>>> >  instructions, is a tight fit in the carrier and axle - IIRC the =
bearing
>>> >  depends on this more than the compression of the spacer, gasket, =
etc.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  --
>>> >  Steve Gerow
>>> >  Altadena, CA
>>> >  BN6
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  >  -------Original Message-------
>>> >  >  From: [LINK: mailto:warthodson@aol.com] warthodson@aol.com
>>> >  >  To: [LINK: mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk]
>>> >  simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk, [LINK: =
mailto:steveg@abrazosdata.com]
>>> >  steveg@abrazosdata.com, [LINK: mailto:healeys@autox.team.net]
>>> >  healeys@autox.team.net
>>> >  >  Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear axle gasket question
>>> >  >  Sent: Jan 26 '15 08:41
>>> >  >
>>> >  >  I have not tried it but I doubt it. On the three axles I have =
actual
>>> >  >  experience with the gasket needed to be Approx. 0.004" thick =
so that
>>> >  the
>>> >  >  spacer met the specified tolerances in the workshop manual. =
The
>>> >  gaskets I
>>> >  >  purchased were all approx. 0.010" thick. That would be a lot =
of
>>> >  squish. You
>>> >  >  would have to squish it without the bearing spacer in place. =
Then
>>> >  remove
>>> >  >  the axle & measure how much the spacer stood proud of the =
gasket. Then
>>> >  >  reassemble everything, if it met spec. It seemed easier to =
just make a
>>> >  >  gasket of the proper thickness.
>>> >  >
>>> >  >  Gary Hodson
>>> >  >
>>> >  >
>>> >  >  From: Simon Lachlan <[LINK: =
mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk]
>>> >  simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk>
>>> >  >  Subject: RE: [Healeys] Rear axle gasket question
>>> >  >
>>> >  >
>>> >  >  If you soaked the too big gaskets in, say, WD40, wouldn=92t =
they
>>> >  compress
>>> >  >  down to a proper size as you tightened up?
>>> >  >
>>> >  >  Just a thought..............
>>> >  >
>>> >  >  Simon
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>>> >  If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical =
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"><div>A little clarification...</div><div><br></div><div>What some are =
calling an "O-Ring" is not an O-ring at all (even though Moss calls it =
one) It's a squarish profiled seal between the bearing and the axle area =
toward the Diff. The paper gasket keeps the bearing grease from oozing =
out into the brake area. Don't ask me why I know this is =
important.</div><div><br></div><div>The so-called o-ring seals the =
inboard side, the paper gasket seals the outboard =
side.</div><div><br></div><div>Wilko.</div><br><div><div>On Jan 26, =
2015, at 3:32 PM, David Porter wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">
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    ..the plot thickens...<br>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 1/26/2015 4:26 PM, Wilko2 =
wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote cite=3D"mid:B886FB81-C171-4AEC-866A-12974EA316F7@cox.net" =
type=3D"cite"><base href=3D"x-msg://108/">
      <div>My BN6 has no O-ring, and the BMC workshop manual doesn't
        show one.&nbsp;</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div>
        <div>On Jan 26, 2015, at 3:19 PM, John Rowe wrote:</div>
        <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
        <blockquote type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
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                <div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                  margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size:
                  12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                    sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I am thinking
                    that would BMC engineering in those days be so
                    sophisticated that they would be worried about .004=94=

                    to .010=94. Judging from what I have seen over the
                    years, I doubt it. IIRC, I used a grey silicone as a
                    sealer- works ok for me.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                <div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                  margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size:
                  12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                    sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">John =
Rowe<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                <div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                  margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size:
                  12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                    sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Qld =
Australia<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                <div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                  margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size:
                  12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                    sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">BN1 =
BT7<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                  <div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
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                    font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                    serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;
                        font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; " =
lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma,
                      sans-serif; " lang=3D"EN-US"><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Healeys
                      [<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-bounces@auto=
x.team.net</a>]<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On
                        Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Michael
                      Salter<br>
                      <b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday,
                      27 January 2015 7:46 AM<br>
                      <b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Steve
                      B. Gerow<br>
                      <b>Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;
                        ">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
                      <b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re:
                      [Healeys] Rear axle gasket =
question<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                </div>
                <div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                  margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size:
                  12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                      margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                      font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                      serif; "><span style=3D"font-family: 'Comic Sans
                        MS'; ">Well you may be over thinking it but you
                        are at least keeping us amused =
:-)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                      margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                      font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                      serif; "><span style=3D"font-family: 'Comic Sans
                        MS'; ">BTW the BN1, BN2 and 100S didn't have the
                        "O" ring seal so I think in their cases the
                        gasket was the seal..<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                      margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                      font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                      serif; "><span style=3D"font-family: 'Comic Sans
                        MS'; ">Pooffff goes that =
theory..<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                      margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                      font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                      serif; "><span style=3D"font-family: 'Comic Sans
                        MS'; ">Michael S<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                      margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                      font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                      serif; "><span style=3D"font-family: 'Comic Sans
                        MS'; ">BN1 #174<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                      margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                      font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                      serif; "><span style=3D"font-family: 'Comic Sans
                        MS'; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                    margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                    font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                    serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div>
                  <div>
                    <div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                      margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                      font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                      serif; ">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Steve B.
                      Gerow &lt;<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"mailto:steveg@abrazosdata.com"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
blue;
                        text-decoration: underline; =
">steveg@abrazosdata.com</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
                    <div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                      margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                      font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                      serif; ">The whole idea of the gasket-as-shim has
                      a certain logic to it - except the o-ring does the
                      actual sealing, correct?<br>
                      <br>
                      Is this the idea: when we tighten the lug nuts, we
                      compress the gasket from, say .014" to .010". At
                      .010, the axle center makes contact with the
                      spacer ring and bearing, coming to a stop. There
                      is then .010" between the carrier and axle flange.
                      The gasket takes up the slack - is the compressed
                      gasket strong enough to in effect be a shim
                      between these two parts?<br>
                      <br>
                      Michael - maybe when extra-tightening of the lug
                      nuts, the axle flange is also bending slightly to
                      take up this gap.<br>
                      <br>
                      Betcha I'm over-thinking this! :-)<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      --<br>
                      Steve Gerow<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; -------Original Message-------<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; From: Michael Salter &lt;<a =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;
                        ">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; To: Steve B. Gerow &lt;<a =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:steveg@abrazosdata.com"; =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;
                        ">steveg@abrazosdata.com</a>&gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; Cc:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com"; style=3D"color:
                        blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">warthodson@aol.com</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>&lt;<a =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com"; =
style=3D"color:
                        blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">warthodson@aol.com</a>&gt;,<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;
                        ">simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk</a>,<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;
                        ">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear axle gasket
                      question<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; Sent: Jan 26 '15 11:28<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; One other observation on this =
subject.<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; This is, I believe, the only place on a
                      Healey where 'conical" seat nuts<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; are used.<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; It has been my experience that conical =
seat
                      nuts always require re-torquing<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; after a little&nbsp; use. Just like the =
lug nuts
                      on your every day driver if<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; you torque them up, then drive the car =
for a
                      bit you will find that the<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; nuts will take up to half a turn just =
to
                      restore them to the original<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; torque.<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; That said however I do have to agree =
with
                      Chris regarding aggressive use.<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; On AHX12 we found it necessary to =
re-torque
                      those nuts after every day of<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; competition and they would always go on =
an
                      additional flat or so.. I always<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; wondered where that extra tightening =
room
                      came from because after a week of<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; Targa Newfoundland we would have =
tightened
                      the nuts at least one full turn<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; ... that's 0.055".<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; I "forgot" to mention to co-driver =
Michael O
                      that a likely cause was<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; stretching of the studs..:-).<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; Michael S<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; [LINK:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/ahx12.html"; target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: blue;
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">http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/ahx12.html</a>]<br>
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href=3D"http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/ahx12.html"; target=3D"_blank" =
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                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Steve =
B.
                      Gerow &lt;[LINK:<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; mailto:<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"mailto:steveg@abrazosdata.com"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;
                        ">steveg@abrazosdata.com</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"mailto:steveg@abrazosdata.com"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;
                        ">steveg@abrazosdata.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; Some observations:<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; New Moss gasket - .014"<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; Old gasket originally coated with =
Hylomar,
                      as removed from axle - .010"<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; .004" =3D copier paper<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; My axle is buttoned up with a new =
gasket and
                      the rear rotor/caliper back<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; in place or I'd try to do a science =
project
                      here.<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; For a gasket thickness, perhaps if one =
were
                      to bolt the assembly together<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; without gasket and measure the gap with
                      shims, then add .003" to that.<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; The new bearing, assembled with heat =
and
                      cold per Tom Monaco's<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; instructions, is a tight fit in the =
carrier
                      and axle - IIRC the bearing<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; depends on this more than the =
compression of
                      the spacer, gasket, etc.<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; --<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; Steve Gerow<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; Altadena, CA<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; BN6<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; -------Original =
Message-------<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; From: [LINK: mailto:<a =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com"; =
style=3D"color:
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                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; To: [LINK: mailto:<a =
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style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;
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                      &gt;&nbsp;<span =
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                      &gt;&nbsp;<span =
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                        ">steveg@abrazosdata.com</a>, [LINK: mailto:<a =
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                        ">healeys@autox.team.net</a>]<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp;<span =
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                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear =
axle
                      gasket question<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Sent: Jan 26 '15 08:41<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; I have not tried it but I =
doubt it. On
                      the three axles I have actual<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; experience with the gasket =
needed to
                      be Approx. 0.004" thick so that<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; the<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; spacer met the specified =
tolerances in
                      the workshop manual. The<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; gaskets I<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; purchased were all approx. =
0.010"
                      thick. That would be a lot of<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; squish. You<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; would have to squish it =
without the
                      bearing spacer in place. Then<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; remove<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; the axle &amp; measure how =
much the
                      spacer stood proud of the gasket. Then<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; reassemble everything, if it =
met spec.
                      It seemed easier to just make a<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; gasket of the proper =
thickness.<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Gary Hodson<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; From: Simon Lachlan =
&lt;[LINK: mailto:<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;
                        ">simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk</a>]<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp;<span =
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href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk"; style=3D"color: blue; =
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                        ">simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk</a>&gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Subject: RE: [Healeys] Rear =
axle
                      gasket question<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; If you soaked the too big =
gaskets in,
                      say, WD40, wouldn=92t they<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; compress<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; down to a proper size as you =
tightened
                      up?<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Just a =
thought..............<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Simon<br>
                      &gt;&nbsp;
                      =
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