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Re: [Healeys] Restoration update 1959 BN4

To: Simon Lachlan <simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk>, healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Restoration update 1959 BN4
From: Oudesluys <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:30:01 +0100
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The original Alpine Sports had a rather lethargic engine. The car was 
not really up to the Ford power installed by Shelby. Much of the Tiger 
was Alpine but extensive reinforcements and other alterations had to be 
done by Shelby and Jensen for production began in West Bromwhich. And 
even than....

Kees Oudesluijs
NL


Simon Lachlan schreef op 13-1-2015 om 18:13:
>
> Well, I do remember that Tiger bit for sure. And I am unaware of any 
> other one-offs, not that Iâ??d ever have researched beyond Tiger lore.
>
> I used to have a Tiger. My brother in lawâ??s Alpine looked identical at 
> first glance, but thatâ??s where it ended.
>
> I skidded my Tiger on large wet leaves. Hit a stone wall; car was 
> never the same again. I was too young/inexperienced/dumb to drive it 
> in the first place and too poor to fix it properly afterwards. I often 
> wonder about getting another.
>
> Simon
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of 
> *Oudesluys
> *Sent:* 13 January 2015 16:59
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Restoration update 1959 BN4
>
> I seem to remember that Shelby did a one of conversion of the Sunbeam 
> Alpine. This conversion was then again modified by Jensen who also 
> performed the final conversion/building of the car.
> Kees Oudesluijs
> NL
>
>
> HealeyRick schreef op 13-1-2015 om 17:48:
>
>     No offense intended, but I think all these owners' claims about an
>     original Shelby conversion are pure BS.  Made up stories, either
>     done in jest or ignorance.  If anyone had a documented Shelby V8
>     conversion prior to the Cobra, I'm sure the collectors would be
>     waving fistfuls  of dollars at it.  And once Shelby began building
>     the Cobra, the only "side job" conversion he did that I'm aware of
>     was the Sunbeam Tiger.
>
>     On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Jonas Payne <jpaynepbr@cox.net
>
>     I saw an MGA at a car show that was supposedly done by CS.
>
>     It was well executed.
>
>     Jonas Payne
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">The original Alpine Sports had a rather
      lethargic engine. The car was not really up to the Ford power
      installed by Shelby. Much of the Tiger was Alpine but extensive
      reinforcements and other alterations had to be done by Shelby and
      Jensen for production began in West Bromwhich. And even than....<br>
      <br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      NL<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Simon Lachlan schreef op 13-1-2015 om 18:13:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Well, I do remember that Tiger bit
            for sure. And I am unaware of any other one-offs, not that
            Iâ??d ever have researched beyond Tiger lore.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I used to have a Tiger. My brother in
            lawâ??s Alpine looked identical at first glance, but thatâ??s
            where it ended.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I skidded my Tiger on large wet
            leaves. Hit a stone wall; car was never the same again. I
            was too young/inexperienced/dumb to drive it in the first
            place and too poor to fix it properly afterwards. I often
            wonder about getting another.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> Healeys
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
 <b>On Behalf Of
                </b>Oudesluys<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 13 January 2015 16:59<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Restoration update 1959
                BN4</span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">I seem to remember that Shelby did a one
            of conversion of the Sunbeam Alpine. This conversion was
            then again modified by Jensen who also performed the final
            conversion/building of the car.<br>
            Kees Oudesluijs<br>
            NL<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            HealeyRick schreef op 13-1-2015 om 17:48:</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">No offense intended, but I think all
              these owners' claims about an original Shelby conversion
              are pure BS.  Made up stories, either done in jest or
              ignorance.  If anyone had a documented Shelby V8
              conversion prior to the Cobra, I'm sure the collectors
              would be waving fistfuls  of dollars at it.  And once
              Shelby began building the Cobra, the only "side job"
              conversion he did that I'm aware of was the Sunbeam Tiger.
                </p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:15 AM,
                  Jonas Payne &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">jpaynepbr@cox.net</a>&gt;
                  wrote:</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                          lang="EN-US">I saw an MGA at a car show that
                          was supposedly done by CS.</span></a><span
                        lang="EN-US"></span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It was well
                        executed.</span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Jonas 
Payne</span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">PBR
                        Consulting Services, LLC</span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><a
                          moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:702.882.6711"
                          target="_blank">702.882.6711</a></span></p>
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