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Re: [Healeys] Boot lid seal

To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Boot lid seal
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 12:01:22 -0500
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Michael--

You said:  "I also have a couple of rough but original early 100 boot lids
that show no evidence of adhesive in the corner of their flanges. Contact
cement is very difficult to remove and is usually just painted over leaving
evidence of its presence."

While I admire your logic and persistence on this point don't forget that
these cars were assembled 60 years ago when adhesives were totally
different from what we have today.  I have no idea what was used back in
the 1950's to glue stuff up but I doubt it had any of the stickiness than
what we now use.

Happy New Year to you and Judith--Michael Oritt

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

> re: '... Contact cement is very difficult to remove...'
>
> Get some '3M General Purpose Adhesive Remover Cleaner' #08984.  It cannot
> be sold in California so you know it's good stuff.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 12/31/2014 6:15 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
>
>> I know that this is a very old thread but with photos now being available
>> I have an opportunity to clear up this question.
>> Despite the doubts expressed by many BN1s prior to body #4129 did have
>> sealing strips in the boot lid channel in the rear shroud.
>> According to the parts book these seals were used in addition to the seal
>> on the lid but I have been unable to confirm definitively if the seals were
>> in fact used together.
>> The photos below are of the seal in a very low mileage very early 100
>> provided courtesy of David Kerry.
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael S
>> BN1 #174
>>
>> josef-eckert@t-online.de>> wrote:
>>
>>     All 100s, 100/6s and 3000s had the boot lid seals installed on the
>> boot lid, not in the channel of the rear shroud.
>>     So there is no exception, even not for early 100s.
>>
>>     Josef Eckert
>>     Konigswinter/Germany
>>
>>
>>
>>     Over the years I have noted that many 100's had the boot lid seal
>> installed
>>     in the channel in the rear shroud rather than on the boot lid as it
>> always
>>     was on the 6 cylinder cars.
>>     I had always considered that this was a 'restorer's error" but I have
>>     photographs of earlier cars showing the seal positioned in the shroud
>>     channel although, I also have photographs of a very original BN2 which
>>     clearly shows that the seal is on the lid.
>>     I also have a couple of rough but original early 100 boot lids that
>> show no
>>     evidence of adhesive in the corner of their flanges. Contact cement
>> is very
>>     difficult to remove and is usually just painted over leaving evidence
>> of
>>     its presence.
>>     Anyone out there with an early BN1 which they are sure has never been
>> "got
>>     at" that could confirm this for me beforeIi glue the seal onto #174.
>>
>>     Michael S
>>     BN1 #174
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)=
">Michael--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)=
"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">You=
 said: =C2=A0&quot;<span style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.800000190=
7349px">I also have a couple of rough but original early 100 boot lids that=
 show no=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.8000001=
907349px">evidence of adhesive in the corner of their flanges. Contact ceme=
nt is very=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.80000=
01907349px">difficult to remove and is usually just painted over leaving ev=
idence of</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.800000190734=
9px">=C2=A0its presence.&quot;</span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.=
8000001907349px"><br></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=
=3D"#0000ff">While I admire your logic and persistence on this point don&#3=
9;t forget that these cars were assembled 60 years ago when adhesives were =
totally different from what we have today.=C2=A0 I have no idea what was us=
ed back in the 1950&#39;s to glue stuff up but I doubt it had any of the st=
ickiness than what we now use. =C2=A0</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt"><font color=3D"#0000ff"><br></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><=
font color=3D"#0000ff">Happy New Year to you and Judith--Michael Oritt=C2=
=A0</font></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Bob Spidell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.ne=
t</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">re: &#39;... Cont=
act cement is very difficult to remove...&#39;<br>
<br>
Get some &#39;3M General Purpose Adhesive Remover Cleaner&#39; #08984.=C2=
=A0 It cannot be sold in California so you know it&#39;s good stuff.<br>
<br>
Bob<span class=3D""><br>
<br>
<br>
On 12/31/2014 6:15 AM, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">
I know that this is a very old thread but with photos now being available I=
 have an opportunity to clear up this question.<br>
Despite the doubts expressed by many BN1s prior to body #4129 did have seal=
ing strips in the boot lid channel in the rear shroud.<br>
According to the parts book these seals were used in addition to the seal o=
n the lid but I have been unable to confirm definitively if the seals were =
in fact used together.<br>
The photos below are of the seal in a very low mileage very early 100 provi=
ded courtesy of David Kerry.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br></span>
Michael S<br>
BN1 #174<span class=3D""><br>
<br>
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:46 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de=
" target=3D"_blank">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mail=
to:josef-eckert@t-online.de" target=3D"_blank">josef-eckert@t-online.<u></u=
>de</a>&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de"; target=3D"_blan=
k">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t=
-online.de" target=3D"_blank">josef-eckert@t-online.<u></u>de</a>&gt;&gt; w=
rote:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 All 100s, 100/6s and 3000s had the boot lid seals installed o=
n the boot lid, not in the channel of the rear shroud.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 So there is no exception, even not for early 100s.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Josef Eckert<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Konigswinter/Germany<br>
<br>
<br>
<br></span><span class=3D"">
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Over the years I have noted that many 100&#39;s had the boot =
lid seal installed<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 in the channel in the rear shroud rather than on the boot lid=
 as it always<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 was on the 6 cylinder cars.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I had always considered that this was a &#39;restorer&#39;s e=
rror&quot; but I have<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 photographs of earlier cars showing the seal positioned in th=
e shroud<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 channel although, I also have photographs of a very original =
BN2 which<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 clearly shows that the seal is on the lid.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I also have a couple of rough but original early 100 boot lid=
s that show no<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 evidence of adhesive in the corner of their flanges. Contact =
cement is very<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 difficult to remove and is usually just painted over leaving =
evidence of<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 its presence.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Anyone out there with an early BN1 which they are sure has ne=
ver been &quot;got<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 at&quot; that could confirm this for me beforeIi glue the sea=
l onto #174.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Michael S<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 BN1 #174<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span></blockquote>
<br>
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