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To: Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Market
From: Derek <derek.c.job@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 21:30:54 +0100
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Curt

The 100S is a completely different kettle of fish. It was a specialised hand
built racing car where virtually every single part is different from the basic
car.

The 100M has a few options all of which had been available to customers for
two years.

Derek

Sent from my iPhone

On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:15, Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt@gmail.com> wrote:

> Derek,
>
> What about 100Ss?  I know several S owners and they are first and foremost
Healey enthusiasts, and secondly they are smart investors,
> the two are not mutually exclusive.  The same thing can be said for 100M
owners.
>
> Another thing to consider is the fact that most 100Ss change hands
privately, and most are Healey enthusiasts and collectors.
>
> Remember there are 37+ of the original 54 or so 100Ss accounted for, there
are 150 or so of the 640 factory 100Ms documented.  And while
> the number of Factory 100Ms may increase slightly, I fear that most were
lost to the "crusher" years ago.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curt
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Derek <derek.c.job@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I guess it's because the cars are being bought by 'investors' and not
enthusiasts. I think Healey people realise the cars are really not that
special.
>>
>> Don't get me wrong they are beautiful cars and id be happy to own one, but
they just aren't worth 3 times the cost of  a normal car IMHO
>>
>> Derek
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 30 Sep 2013, at 18:50, Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> One other point about perceived value... say the car was owned or driven
by Steve McQueen and the price will double!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>> Derek,
>>>>
>>>> Not a fair analysis since it's the provenience of the documented Factory
100M that commands that much money.
>>>>
>>>> Even a BN1 converted by DHMC  at Warwick to Le Mans specifications will
not bring nearly as much as a factory documented BN2 with exactly the same
modifications.  Now that's what doesn't make any sense at all.
>>>>
>>>> And of course a "Plain Jane" BN1/2 modified to Le Mans specs typically
brings slightly more money but not a lot more. That being said, it's typically
more than the cost of the mod, so it can be worth the investment.
>>>>
>>>> Plus it's Monterey car week and an auction.  This is the biggest and
richest classic car event in the world. This is why folks bring their car
their to sell... to hit a home run.
>>>>
>>>> Finally buy a basket case 100M and it will cost you north of $50K and
then take it to any reputable restorer and have it restored to near Concours
standards and in the end you will have $200K or more invested
>>>>
>>>> I go to both the Monterey, CA and the Scottsdale, AZ auctions every year
and have been doing so for a decade.  There are plenty of $150 -$200K cars
that I wouldn't give you a plug nickel for, but others see their value and
collectability.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Curt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Derek <derek.c.job@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> About 130,000 dollars does seem rather a lot for a cold air box,
louvred
>>>>> bonnet and high comp pistons
>>>>>
>>>>> Derek
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