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[Healeys] Bad running due to ethanol in gas?

Subject: [Healeys] Bad running due to ethanol in gas?
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 08:59:59 -0700
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Steve,

Sounds like a worthwhile experiment.  If you can prove an association between 
ethanol content and poor running engines 
I'd be interested.  Also, if some suppliers are exceeding the 10% limit your 
local consumer affairs bureau should be 
notified (if they haven't been laid off).

One problem is that 'poor running' is subjective.  Since you already have a 
'hunch' that the fuel is causing your 
problems you will likely attribute any miss, stumble, etc. to the fuel.  The 
only way to get an objective reading that I 
can think of is to put your car on a dynamometer and try the different fuels.  
You can also track mileage closely, but 
that is an indirect indicator at best.

I've given one data set but, again, it's subjective (except for the mileage 
figures for the BJ8, which we've tracked for 
over 16 years of extended trips).  I've noticed a slight problem that could be 
mild vapor lock if I drive on a warm day, 
shut the engine down for a half-hour or so then restart.   Seems to be a recent 
(last few years) phenomenon, and doesn't 
happen after a briefer (up to 15min.) shutdown.

Also, I assume you have a modern, computer-controlled EFI auto as a backup for 
your Healey.  Have you tried the same 
fuel in your BJ9?  Modern cars are designed to accommodate a variety of 
fuels--my Mustang will run on 87-octane but 
prefers premium (or better)--but a problem with combustion might be detected 
and logged by the ECM.

My 'hunch' would be that--if you're buying your fuel from the same 
station--there could be contamination (e.g. water) in 
the fuel or the fuel is 'stale.'

Bob


On 9/4/2011 7:54 AM, Steve B. Gerow wrote:
> Bob,
> I wasn't intending to pass my assertion off as "science". Wanted to put it 
> out in front of the group and see if anyone else feels like they're 
> experiencing the same issue.
>
> I've been having these problems for maybe three months and have a hunch about 
> the gas. This may be wrong and I'll figure it out after a while.
>
> I followed up on my hunch by purchasing the test kit ($30 approx). I'm now 
> going to embark on a program of testing the fuels I buy at different 
> stations. Different grades, too.
>
> It would be useful information if some other drivers would test their gas, 
> find a similar percentage of ethanol, and report whether their cars are 
> running differently.


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