Rich,
Many thanks for your detailed answer.
Only your answer gives me more questions.
When I restore a car and reassemble it as nice as possible, lets say to make a
Show Car, I would go to better quality material as originally used. Otherwise
keeping the car with its original equipment, just to spend more time in fixing
all right and tidy, better as the factory has done it.
Coming back to Concours, that means I can't take this car to Concours, as it
would not even reach bronze level. And on the other hand a car reaching gold
level in Concours can be seen by a non Concours expert as of "average"
quality.
So when I want to insure both cars, the inspector of the insurance company,
who does not know anything about Concours correctness would valuate the gold
level car much lower than the "Show Car". Here in Germany potential buyers are
looking very close to the valuation of the insurance company to get a feeling
of the value of a classic car.
I am just looking for any reason of a car owner to go the hard way of Concours
restoration.
Josef Eckert
Konigswinter/Germany
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Von: Rich C [mailto:richchrysler@quickclic.net]
Gesendet: Freitag, 24. September 2010 13:28
An: Eckert, Josef; Healeys@autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Questin to Trim (Concours)
Josef,
There are standard deductions for carpet that is other than the original
Kar-vel. The new Karvel we see today has a standard deduction of 5 points,
while a wool blend in cut pile is also a standard 5 point deduction. Nylon cut
pile is 10 points while any loop pile is 15 points. Wilton wool is 7 point
deduction.
A car trimmed in leather everywhere where vinyl was original application would
be deducted on every panel and surface that takes place. As Gilbert pointed
out, these deductions would be for lack of originality, while if the colour
and application, fit, etc. was neat and clean, there should be no loss for
condition.
I just went down the scoring page for interior and soft trim and quickly found
a loss of at least 19 points for a BN1 or BN2 if it was fully trimmed in
leather. I would wonder why somebody would do that on purpose if their
intention was to have it judged in our National Concours Registry criteria.
Rich Chrysler
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From: <Josef.Eckert@t-systems.com>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 5:02 AM
To: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Questin to Trim (Concours)
> Here`s a question to the Concours experts.
> How much would be the deduction (how many points) in Concours when a
> car is fitted with a higher quality carpet than original karvel? Still
> in original colour.
> How much would be the deduction when a car has got an allover leather
> trim (side panels, seat backs, dashboard etc.) instead of the vinyl
> used originally?
> I just like to know how you treat those deviations to original specs.
> Many thanks to the Concours guys.
>
> Josef Eckert
> Konigswinter/Germany
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