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Re: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale
From: Bernard Cristalli <bcrist@club-internet.fr>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:40:46 +0100
Since the invention of black powder the chinese didn't create a lot. The 
litlle red book perhaps?...
B

Oudesluys a icrit :
>
> A few years ago the Chinese tried to sell an SUV in EU called the JMC 
> (Jiangling Motor Company) Landwind. Basicly this was the old Opel 
> Frontera (Izuzu Rodeo, Vauxhall Frontera, Holden Frontera) that 
> General Motors (Opel, Vauxhall, Holden, Izuzu etc.) had to withdraw in 
> haste because it did perform very poorly in the EuroNCAP test. The 
> Landwind did even worse and did not sell at all.
> The Chinese do not have a clue yet how to deal with car safety, 
> however they are learning fast, as did the Japanese and Koreans in the 
> past: they showed to be far superiour in the end in the devellopment 
> of ideas and quality control. Innovation and design is another matter 
> though.
> Kees Oudesluijs
> NL
>
>
> Alan Seigrist schreef:
>> All -
>>
>> I don't if any of you pay attention to this, but one of the most 
>> distressing
>> car things I have seen in the last few years is Ford's plan to sell 
>> Volvo to
>> Geely - Geely is China's premier car maker.
>>
>> Basically, Ford is selling Volvo to Geely for about 1/3 what they 
>> paid for
>> Volvo just a few years ago.  Why would Geely want Volvo?
>>
>> A bit of background from a guy who lives in China - right now the 
>> quality of
>> Chinese cars isn't all that bad except in one major area - safety.  
>> In this
>> area, Chinese cars are DECADES behind the rest of the world in 
>> design.  The
>> reason why is designing crumple zones and safety cages is very very 
>> complex
>> requiring sophisticated technology and decades of engineering 
>> experience -
>> Volvo cars are safe for good reason.  If you do any search on Youtube of
>> what happens to a Chinese made car in an accident should scare the 
>> crap out
>> of you.
>>
>> So Ford, to settle a very small amount of debt, is selling Volvo for 
>> cash to
>> Geely.  This has to be one of the most short sighted things I have 
>> ever seen
>> any American car company ever do.  Basically, Ford is selling the very
>> expertise that Geely needs to destroy Ford in the future in worldwide
>> sales.  All for less than 2 billion dollars.  I suggest that within a 
>> decade
>> Ford will be losing more business globally than that on an annual 
>> basis to
>> Geely because of the expertise they are literally giving away for a 
>> pocket
>> full of change.
>>
>> Who's to blame for giving assistance on a silver platter to the rise of
>> China?  I certainly don't blame the Chinese for this.  Ford should be
>> ashamed of itself.
>>
>> Alan
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