Hi Mark,
If you predrill the rocker ball feed hole in the correct position in the
bush, but use a1/8" drill (making it slightly oversize), it is very easy
to press the bushing in, in the correct position, then drill the vertical
hole before reaming the bush.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
www.precisionsportscar.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mark Fawcett wrote:
> Listers,
> I think remember a posting in the past about not removing the rivet
> from the rocker arm when replacing the bushings. I would assume then
> that you would drill the oil hole in the bushing prior to installing
> it in the rocker arm. How do you insure that the oil hole is lined up
> with the oil passage? Or should I just let the machine shop take care
> of this?
> Thanks,
> Mark Fawcett
From "John Rowe" <jarowe at connect.comdek.net.au>
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:32:10 +0800
Subject: Re: Austin manufacturing ties, other than Healey?
I think you will find that the 240Z motor has a far closer resemblance to a
Mercedes that a BJ8 ho ho . The Z motor is an ohc and totally different.
I've sure coverted my son's Z motor a few time during my rebuild
particularly when we installed both within a few months of each other and
now again as he has a 280Z motor in a 240 with turbo and injection.
Certainly goes like the clappers
Regards
John Rowe
Perth
Western Australia
BT7 in restoration
----- Original Message -----
From: Masucci, Dave <dmasucci@pinpointco.com>
To: 'Healey Mailing List' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 4:11 AM
Subject: RE: Austin manufacturing ties, other than Healey?
>
> Rumor has it that Nissan bought some of the last few BJ8's ever produced.
> And that the 240Z engine is a very close copy of the big healey motor.
Some
> theorize that Nissan ripped apart a number of Healeys in their efforts to
> create a new sports car for the American market. I read all of this in an
> old issue of Chatter one time. It was an article about a guy who replaced
a
> big Healey motor with a 240Z motor, and that almost everything bolted
right
> up.
>
> Dave
>
> BJ8
> TR4A
>
>
> David R. Masucci
> Senior RF Engineer
>
> PinPoint Corporation
> One Fortune Drive - Billerica, MA 01821
> phone: (978) 901-0028 ext: 363
> fax: (978) 901-0050
> email: dave.masucci@pinpointco.com
>
> http://www.pinpointco.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-healeys@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-healeys@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Brad Weldon
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:29 PM
> To: Healey Mailing List
> Subject: Austin manufacturing ties, other than Healey?
>
>
>
> I recently ran upon some information that got me thinking (always a scary
> thought).
>
> "Nissan Motor Co., Ltd. entered into a technical tie-up with Britain's
> Austin and began producing the type of A40 Somerset in 1953..."
> http://www.toyota.co.jp./Museum/Tam/Car/Nissanaustina/index.html . It
looks
> like Austin and Toyota had a thing going.
>
> What other manufacturers did Austin collaborate with for automobile
> production?
>
> Brad
> '55 Hundred
> BN1 #226796
>
>
From Healybj8 at aol.com
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 08:16:16 EST
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
Yea, one thing... it sounds REALLY GOOD!!!!!
Tim Wallace
'67 BJ8
Fuquay-Varina, NC
In a message dated Tue, 31 Oct 2000 7:17:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Coop"
<coop1@dnai.com> writes:
<<
Did I forget
anything boys? Coop ('66 BJ8)
----- Original Message -----
From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
>
>
> In a message dated 10/31/00 2:34:21 PM, rwil@cts.com writes:
>
> <<
> Don't buy either one as an investment, except an investment in fun.
> Drive them both and choose the one you like the best, if you can
> decide. Otherwise consider buying one of each over a considerable
> period of time. >>
>
> I will say that a BJ8 will cost you more than a BN1 in comparable
condition.
> (Notice I didn't say "Is worth more" or "will appreciate more rapidly"
since
> neither of those are relevant). I guess that the reason a BJ8 costs more
is
> the wind-up windows and convertible top, making the car more acceptable to
> wives who might be willing to cater to their husbands' whims, but don't
want
> to be too uncomfortable on a long trip. I haven't driven either for long
> distances (I too own a BN7 which is my idea of the perfect Healey) but I
have
> been told that the four-cylinder engine can wear on you after a few hours
of
> driving (on the other hand, many people have driven coast-to-coast in the
> 100s so they can't be all that bad).
>
> Cheers
> Gary Anderson
>
>>
From Wayne Sirota <wsirota at snet.net>
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 09:12:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Austin-Healey Wanted
Very interested if you will send a picture to me at W. Sirota
po box 633 Wallingford, Ct 06492
Todd S Taylor wrote:
> This healey was in our sunday paper.
>
> Autsin Healey 3000 1965
> Straight , rust free, runs, superb
> $18,500, Call: 315-736-4969
>
> I have no interest in this car, never seen it, Just passing the info. along
>
> There also is another Healey local to me someone is selling,
> I'll find it again and take pictures if anyone is intertested...
> I know it's a red 3000, That's all I know right now. I live in the Syracuse
> NY, area....
> A guy parks it everyday with a for sale sign on it....
>
> Reid Trummel wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Bob Jordan of Westchester County, NY (about 45 miles north of NYC, near
> > Connecticut) is looking for a big Healey to purchase. Please contact him
> > directly with any leads (his email address is CC above). Basically he's
> > looking for:
> >
> > -- Preferably a BJ8, but does not have to be.
> >
> > -- He can travel to the Midwest or South to the Carolinas. However, he also
> > said, "if the right car is in California, I'd ship it East," meaning there's
> > no strict maximum distance within the USA.
> >
> > -- He's looking for "just a good, mechanically sound Healey that I can have
> > fun in at weekend shows and not be embarrassed."
> >
> > -- Price range of "the 'teens or low 20's."
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help, and again, please contact Bob directly via
> > email.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Reid Trummel
> > Tampa, Florida
> > BN2
> > BN2
> > AN5 "Lucky"
> > http://www.healey.org
> >
> > _______________________________________________________
> > Say Bye to Slow Internet!
> > http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:14:18 EST
Subject: the Model Healey
In a message dated 10/31/00 10:03:40 PM, dickb@cheerful.com writes:
<< Tim
I realize that a photo doesn't do the Matthews Model 100 justice, and I've
never seen a Matthews model "in the flesh", but I own several Ertl Big Healey
die-cast models and would you explain why a Matthews is worth 36 or 40 times
the price?
Thanks
DickB >>
You've answered your own question, Dick, without knowing it. Photos don't do
justice to the Matthews model because in pictures the models are very
difficult to tell from a real Healey -- they're that good. But to appreciate
the difference, you simply have to see one. Every detail is accurate to size
and appearance -- each model is built by hand and takes several weeks to
construct and finish (for example, each wire spoke is inserted separately.
I'd be happy to email you some photos I took this summer if you're interested.
Cheers
Gary
From MBran89793 at aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:16:07 EST
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
In a message dated 10/31/00 8:03:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
AHCUSA@excite.com writes:
<<
(By the way, there's a BJ8 advertised in the Tampa newspaper today as a
1967; 84,000 miles; overdrive; engine rebuilt; new top and seats; $13,900.
The phone number is (727) 842-6255. If anyone is seriously interested I'd
be willing to go take a look this coming weekend, if you talk to the seller
first. It might be a real buy! The phone number doesn't seem to belong to
any known club members. Act fast!)
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida >>
Save your time and long distance call charges.
I called this AM to check on the BJ-8 as mentioned above and it was already
sold.
Marion S. Brantley, Jr.
St. Petersburg, FL
From "John Snyder" <johnahsn at olypen.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:38:01 -0800
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
One thing that no one has mentioned yet (I think) is the trunk/boot space.
Even though the car will be used as a fun vehicle, any 2 seater sure has
more trunk space than a 4 seater. Who knows, you might want to make an
over-night or longer trip.
The trunk of a 4 seater is fairly well stuffed with spare tire, battery,
and various spares (depending on your level of confidence, past experience
and the theory that if you have a spare, the original will never fail).
My personal favorite is the BN7.
John Snyder
----------
From "Kocik, Stephen W" <Stephen.Kocik at unisys.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:16:49 -0500
Subject: RE: BN1 or BJ8?
I agree with John.. I can almost fit a full set of clubs in my trunk.. I
can't squeeze the driver in, but it doesn't matter, I can't hit it
anyhow....;-)
Steve
61 BN7
-----Original Message-----
From: John Snyder [mailto:johnahsn@olypen.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:38 PM
To: Healybj8@aol.com; coop1@dnai.com
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
One thing that no one has mentioned yet (I think) is the trunk/boot space.
Even though the car will be used as a fun vehicle, any 2 seater sure has
more trunk space than a 4 seater. Who knows, you might want to make an
over-night or longer trip.
The trunk of a 4 seater is fairly well stuffed with spare tire, battery,
and various spares (depending on your level of confidence, past experience
and the theory that if you have a spare, the original will never fail).
My personal favorite is the BN7.
John Snyder
----------
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 13:34:16 -0500
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
John,
Keep your left arm stiff and slow down the back swing .... ;-)
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Kocik, Stephen W" wrote:
> I agree with John.. I can almost fit a full set of clubs in my trunk.. I
> can't squeeze the driver in, but it doesn't matter, I can't hit it
> anyhow....;-)
>
> Steve
> 61 BN7
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Snyder [mailto:johnahsn@olypen.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:38 PM
> To: Healybj8@aol.com; coop1@dnai.com
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
>
> One thing that no one has mentioned yet (I think) is the trunk/boot space.
> Even though the car will be used as a fun vehicle, any 2 seater sure has
> more trunk space than a 4 seater. Who knows, you might want to make an
> over-night or longer trip.
>
> The trunk of a 4 seater is fairly well stuffed with spare tire, battery,
> and various spares (depending on your level of confidence, past experience
> and the theory that if you have a spare, the original will never fail).
>
> My personal favorite is the BN7.
>
> John Snyder
> ----------
From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:54:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
OK team,
This is one of those once-in-a-lifetime opportunities knocking (or is that
noise we hear just low-octane gas?). Anyway, there is a Bugeye Sprite in
southern California -- San Diego to be specific -- that wants to be here in
Tampa, Florida. There are only a couple of ways to get it here: pay to have
it transported (kinda expensive), tow it (no fun), or drive it. I don't
have the time to drive it out here myself, so I wonder if any of you-all
might be interested in a road trip?
I've made many coast-to-coast drives in Healeys, and it has always been an
adventure. I wish I had the time to make this trip myself, but I just
absolutely do not have the necessary vacation time available. I'll pay for
the gas (and oil, if necessary) and we can work out some kind of split on
lodging costs, and we can negotiate other terms as needed.
The car has a fresh 1275 cc engine, front disc brakes, upgraded rear drums
brakes, a factory hardtop and a few spares that need to brought along.
So, anyone feeling lucky? I'm in no hurry so the timeframe is not too
important. Potentially this could even wait until after the holidays. The
weather stays nice along the southern tier of the country pretty much
throughout the winter, so weather should not be a factor.
Call now, operators are standing by! Your adventure awaits!
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
'56 BN2 100M
'56 BN2 100 w/Le Mans Kit
'60 AN5 Sprite "Lucky"
'60 AN5 Sprite (in San Diego)
http://www.healey.org
_______________________________________________________
Say Bye to Slow Internet!
http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:21:26 -0600
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
There's nothing more satisfying than the look on someone's face when they
look under the hood of a BT7 Tri-carb and see those three carbs attached to
that huge lump of an engine. They invariably say boy she must be fast. I
usually respond "he's" pretty fast for his age. Bill Bolton where are you?
RayfixanddrivehisBT7somedayFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kocik, Stephen W" <Stephen.Kocik@unisys.com>
To: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>; <Healybj8@aol.com>;
<coop1@dnai.com>
Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:16 PM
Subject: RE: BN1 or BJ8?
>
> I agree with John.. I can almost fit a full set of clubs in my trunk.. I
> can't squeeze the driver in, but it doesn't matter, I can't hit it
> anyhow....;-)
>
> Steve
> 61 BN7
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Snyder [mailto:johnahsn@olypen.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:38 PM
> To: Healybj8@aol.com; coop1@dnai.com
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
>
>
>
> One thing that no one has mentioned yet (I think) is the trunk/boot space.
> Even though the car will be used as a fun vehicle, any 2 seater sure has
> more trunk space than a 4 seater. Who knows, you might want to make an
> over-night or longer trip.
>
> The trunk of a 4 seater is fairly well stuffed with spare tire, battery,
> and various spares (depending on your level of confidence, past experience
> and the theory that if you have a spare, the original will never fail).
>
> My personal favorite is the BN7.
>
> John Snyder
> ----------
>
From "JISah102" <ah102 at home.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:48:05 -0500
Subject: Healey on ebay
There is a BN6 on ebay, $12,750
I can't help wondering why there are no bids on this car. Its in CA. If it
were closer, I'd sure have a look.
Jim
east coast
From Jwhlyadv at aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:24:02 EST
Subject: Austin-Healey 100/4 Heaters
My friend and former 100-M owner Mark Ghelhausen recently unearthed the
following parts and asked me to spread the word for him. Contact Mark at
alice@atd.crane.navy.mil if you have any questions.
3 Austin-Healey 100/4 Heaters All three heater cores passed a pressure test.
All three motors operate fine although at least one switch is missing.
Austin-Healey 100 (BN1/2) Dash Panel...straight, aluminum
Assorted Austin-Healey Flash (bonnet/boot/"M" grille emblem)
I have other Austin-Healey small items and a number of books ... plus a large
pile of Triumph Spitfire stuff...
It all resides in Bloomington Indiana...that is until you take it home!
Thanks,
Jim Werner
Louisville, KY
Visit my Healey Adventure Site at jamesfwerner.com
From "Rich C" <rich.chrysler at sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:21:30 -0500
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
This is quite an interesting thread we've got going here. I must add my own
two cents worth.
Having owned in chronological order a BJ7, BJ8, BT7 Mk.2, AN5, BN1, and BN2,
I have to say the BN1 was the personal favorite of the lot.
All these above cars, I might add, I completely restored to a high level of
quality and accuracy, so driving them was as close as one could come to the
experience of driving one when it was new.
The BN1 has the cleanest line, and looks the most elegant, without having
the "heavy" and somewhat stretched and cluttered look and feel of the later
BMC corporate compromises! (flame suit and big grin on and ready)
The trim work on the early cars was very much a hands on, labour intensive
thing, which was obviously carried out with great pride of workmanship. This
largely disappeared as the production years passed, due, no doubt to the
bean counters finding ways to make the car cheaper.
The Hundred was designed with the Austin drive train components in mind,
right from a clean sheet of paper. They were out to make the most ideal
sports car possible, taking into account everything from style, handling,
strength, ease of service, and worldwide acceptability. The BN1 is the
result of their efforts.
The seating and driving position of the Hundred is the most comfortable of
all the big Healeys, with all the pedals operating from the same distance
from the seat. The seat is adjusted to give a nominal and comfortable
position and therefore suits all three pedals.
The six cylinder car's seat has to be adjusted so that the driver can
completely depress the clutch pedal, and on the six, that's awaaaaay down
there. That leaves the brake pedal about midway, but the throttle pedal much
too close, resulting in the right leg and ankle being kinked up in a very
awkward and uncomfortable position.
Because of the lighter structure of the car, there is not the same degree of
scuttle shake that the heavier six has, especially the BJ7 and BJ8 with the
much heavier windscreen.
I will admit that the weather equipment leaves a lot to be desired. If it
rains, both you and the inside of the car will get wet.
I've heard of a lot of long term enthusiasts evolving from the later to the
earlier model, but rarely heard the other way around.
Hmmm, am I biased, or what!!
Rich Chrysler
From Dennis Broughel <brougheldp at earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 18:45:19 -0500
Subject: odd parts
hello listers:
I'm very new to the A.H. family with an BN4 -45281. I am planning on
a 2 year restoration, The car has been in a garage under a boat for the
past 22 years. My car appears to be very straight, and with all numbers
matching according to Anderson & Moment's book. I am missing some
intrigal parts and was wondering if I could be pointed in the right
direction(s)
1. Trafficator(adjustable steering)
2.Seats (front)
3.speedometer( there is a Jaeger in place )
I was planning to go to Hershey Pa. in the spring (i'm in upstate N.Y.)
or is that not a good idea.
As a new comer to the healey list I must compliment all the responders.
What a tremendous resource.
Dennis Broughel
57 BN4
From Csooch1 at aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:58:10 EST
Subject: Re: odd parts
Dennis,
Some of the parts suppliers on the list, or in any issue of Chatter (Healey
Marque) could probably help you out. I have heard that Hershey is not that
great for Healeys. I went to Import Carlisle last year and saw plenty of the
parts that you need for sale. I am sure that there will be more this Spring.
Carlisle productions was thinking of changing the date of the swap meet to
late September(during show season would have killed it), but after helping to
hand out hundreds of flyers, they changed their mind. It appears that we
made our point and it will be the same time as usual at least for another
year. Check the British car mags for parts suppliers also.
Cheers,
Chris
BJ8
XJ6
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:14:59 EST
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
In a message dated 11/01/2000 3:23:29 PM Central Standard Time,
feehanr@cadvision.com writes:
<< They invariably say boy she must be fast. I
usually respond "he's" pretty fast for his age >>
Sorry, Ray, "she" is faster!!! <G>
Hortense THE Healy !!!
From MICHAEL GIROUX <MGIROUX at SGL.COM>
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 18:28:00 -0500
Subject: CAM GRINDING INFORMATION NEEDED
HI I AM LOOKING FOR DETAILED STANDARD CAM GRINDING SPECS FOR AH3000
MKI,MKII,MKIII . CAN ANYONE PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION OR TELL ME WHERE I
CAN OBTAIN IT?
MICHAEL GIROUX
62 BT7,71 TR6, 81 MALIBU (NOTHING EVEN CLOSE TO NEW)
From Csooch1 at aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:22:03 EST
Subject: Re: CAM GRINDING INFORMATION NEEDED
Go to www.elgincams.com and look for the Austin Healey page. They list the
stock specs as well as the performance grinds that they offer. They recently
did my BJ8 cam and WOW did they do a nice job. The specs are also in the
Bently manual...I think.
Cheers,
Chris
BJ8
XJ6
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:23:53 EST
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
In a message dated 11/01/2000 4:26:21 PM Central Standard Time,
rich.chrysler@sympatico.ca writes:
<major snip>
<< and on the six, that's awaaaaay down
there. That leaves the brake pedal about midway, but the throttle pedal much
too close, resulting in the right leg and ankle being kinked up in a very
awkward and uncomfortable position.>>
That is ONLY because you never "grew" up, Rich !! I don't have any probs.
('course I will admit that is why Cindy now has a MGB<G>!!).
<<major snip>>
<< Hmmm, am I biased, or what!! >>
Who, YOU????????? Nah!!!!!!<VBG>
Ed
From "Quinn, Patrick" <Patrick.QUINN at det.nsw.edu.au>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:55:00 +1100
Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
Hi Reid
I would love to drive the Bugeye from California to Florida. Am happy to
split
lodging costs.
Regards
Patrick Quinn
Sydney, Australia
ps No doubt you would be happy to pay for my return airfare from Australia?
>>> Reid Trummel 2/11/00 7:54:00 >>>
OK team,
This is one of those once-in-a-lifetime opportunities knocking (or is that
noise we hear just low-octane gas?). Anyway, there is a Bugeye Sprite in
southern California -- San Diego to be specific -- that wants to be here in
Tampa, Florida. There are only a couple of ways to get it here: pay to have
it transported (kinda expensive), tow it (no fun), or drive it. I don't
have the time to drive it out here myself, so I wonder if any of you-all
might be interested in a road trip?
I've made many coast-to-coast drives in Healeys, and it has always been an
adventure. I wish I had the time to make this trip myself, but I just
absolutely do not have the necessary vacation time available. I'll pay for
the gas (and oil, if necessary) and we can work out some kind of split on
lodging costs, and we can negotiate other terms as needed.
The car has a fresh 1275 cc engine, front disc brakes, upgraded rear drums
brakes, a factory hardtop and a few spares that need to brought along.
So, anyone feeling lucky? I'm in no hurry so the timeframe is not too
important. Potentially this could even wait until after the holidays. The
weather stays nice along the southern tier of the country pretty much
throughout the winter, so weather should not be a factor.
Call now, operators are standing by! Your adventure awaits!
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
'56 BN2 100M
'56 BN2 100 w/Le Mans Kit
'60 AN5 Sprite "Lucky"
'60 AN5 Sprite (in San Diego)
http://www.healey.org
_______________________________________________________
Say Bye to Slow Internet!
http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
From "Lee S. Mairs" <lmairs at cox.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 21:24:25 -0500
Subject: Re: odd parts
What is the next date for Import Carlisle?
---
Lee Mairs
'62 Mk II Tri-carb
---
There is no opinion so absurd that some philosopher will not
express it.
--Cicero
> ... I am sure that there will be more this Spring.
> Carlisle productions was thinking of changing the date of the swap meet
to
> late September(during show season would have killed it), but after helping
to
> hand out hundreds of flyers, they changed their mind. It appears that we
> made our point and it will be the same time as usual at least for another
> year
From Csooch1 at aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 21:20:07 EST
Subject: Re: odd parts
In a message dated 11/1/00 8:15:43 PM Central Standard Time,
lmairs@cox.rr.com writes:
<< What is the next date for Import Carlisle?
>>
May 18-20 2001.
Cheers,
Chris
From "Don Yarber" <dyarber at dynasty.net>
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 23:57:25 -0600
Subject: Crankcase and valve cover breather
Hey gang:
I hooked up a hose to my crankcase breather, ran it to the valve cover
breather and out the other side to the middle carb on my BN7. Now I get a
lot of oily soot in my exhaust. Is this a normal condition? Is the carb
sucking oil out of the top of the valve cover or what is going on?
This is a recently rebuilt engine with less than 1000 miles on it.
Don
BN7
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The
Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the
difference.
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 00:23:29 -0600
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
And "Healey" with an "e" is righter. Rayspellit and driveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: <JustBrits@aol.com>
To: <feehanr@cadvision.com>
Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
> In a message dated 11/01/2000 3:23:29 PM Central Standard Time,
> feehanr@cadvision.com writes:
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> usually respond "he's" pretty fast for his age >>
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> Sorry, Ray, "she" is faster!!! <G>
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> Hortense THE Healy !!!
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From "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 01:59:19 -0600
Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
Patrick.... You do this.... I live just off the interstate once you get into
the northern Pan Handle of Florida....
You would sure be welcome to stop by and spend the night.... K
----- Original Message -----
From: "Quinn, Patrick" <Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au>
To: <AHCUSA@excite.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>;
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
>
> Hi Reid
>
> I would love to drive the Bugeye from California to Florida. Am happy to
> split
> lodging costs.
>
> Regards
>
> Patrick Quinn
> Sydney, Australia
>
> ps No doubt you would be happy to pay for my return airfare from
Australia?
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> >>> Reid Trummel 2/11/00 7:54:00 >>>
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> OK team,
>
> This is one of those once-in-a-lifetime opportunities knocking (or is that
> noise we hear just low-octane gas?). Anyway, there is a Bugeye Sprite in
> southern California -- San Diego to be specific -- that wants to be here
in
> Tampa, Florida. There are only a couple of ways to get it here: pay to
have
> it transported (kinda expensive), tow it (no fun), or drive it. I don't
> have the time to drive it out here myself, so I wonder if any of you-all
> might be interested in a road trip?
>
> I've made many coast-to-coast drives in Healeys, and it has always been an
> adventure. I wish I had the time to make this trip myself, but I just
> absolutely do not have the necessary vacation time available. I'll pay
for
> the gas (and oil, if necessary) and we can work out some kind of split on
> lodging costs, and we can negotiate other terms as needed.
>
> The car has a fresh 1275 cc engine, front disc brakes, upgraded rear drums
> brakes, a factory hardtop and a few spares that need to brought along.
>
> So, anyone feeling lucky? I'm in no hurry so the timeframe is not too
> important. Potentially this could even wait until after the holidays.
The
> weather stays nice along the southern tier of the country pretty much
> throughout the winter, so weather should not be a factor.
>
> Call now, operators are standing by! Your adventure awaits!
>
> Cheers,
> Reid Trummel
> Tampa, Florida
> '56 BN2 100M
> '56 BN2 100 w/Le Mans Kit
> '60 AN5 Sprite "Lucky"
> '60 AN5 Sprite (in San Diego)
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From Krazy Kiwi <magicare at home.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 06:58:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Crankcase and valve cover breather
Don,
Inside the valve cover there should be a small deflector plate under the point
where the breather screws in. It is sometimes missing or damaged as a result
of the "T" fitting being screwed in too far. Also it is possible to install
the fitting too far down which can block off the passage to the valve cover.
Both these faults can cause the problem that you are having.
Also may help to check your rocker shaft and bushes for excessive wear.
Hope this helps.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
www.precisionsportscar.com
Don Yarber wrote:
> Hey gang:
> I hooked up a hose to my crankcase breather, ran it to the valve cover
> breather and out the other side to the middle carb on my BN7. Now I get a
> lot of oily soot in my exhaust. Is this a normal condition? Is the carb
> sucking oil out of the top of the valve cover or what is going on?
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> This is a recently rebuilt engine with less than 1000 miles on it.
>
> Don
> BN7
> God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The
> Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the
> difference.
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:07:19 -0800
Subject: RE: Healey on ebay
I would say that from the photos and description it is in similar condition
to the BN7 I just bought, except that his has a gold valve cover and mine
had the more desirable blue metalflake version. :7)
Another difference is that I paid a LOT less than $12,000 for mine. It's a
nice car, desireable model and decent shape but he really wants all the
money. I guess maybe I just got a smokin' deal!
Jonathan Lane
-----Original Message-----
From: JISah102 [mailto:ah102@home.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 1:48 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Healey on ebay
There is a BN6 on ebay, $12,750
I can't help wondering why there are no bids on this car. Its in CA. If it
were closer, I'd sure have a look.
Jim
east coast
From "kirk kvam" <62BT7 at prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:08:21 -0800
Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
Hey Keith,
If Patrick RON's at your house while transporting
the Sprite sounds to me that might be a great
oppritunity to do some parts swaping for your Land Speed Sprite.
Kirk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
To: "Quinn, Patrick" <Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au>; <AHCUSA@excite.com>;
<healeys@autox.team.net>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
>
> Patrick.... You do this.... I live just off the interstate once you get
into
> the northern Pan Handle of Florida....
>
> You would sure be welcome to stop by and spend the night.... K
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Quinn, Patrick" <Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au>
> To: <AHCUSA@excite.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>;
> <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 7:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
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> > Hi Reid
> >
> > I would love to drive the Bugeye from California to Florida. Am happy to
> > split
> > lodging costs.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Patrick Quinn
> > Sydney, Australia
> >
> > ps No doubt you would be happy to pay for my return airfare from
> Australia?
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> > >>> Reid Trummel 2/11/00 7:54:00 >>>
> >
> > OK team,
> >
> > This is one of those once-in-a-lifetime opportunities knocking (or is
that
> > noise we hear just low-octane gas?). Anyway, there is a Bugeye Sprite
in
> > southern California -- San Diego to be specific -- that wants to be here
> in
> > Tampa, Florida. There are only a couple of ways to get it here: pay to
> have
> > it transported (kinda expensive), tow it (no fun), or drive it. I don't
> > have the time to drive it out here myself, so I wonder if any of you-all
> > might be interested in a road trip?
> >
> > I've made many coast-to-coast drives in Healeys, and it has always been
an
> > adventure. I wish I had the time to make this trip myself, but I just
> > absolutely do not have the necessary vacation time available. I'll pay
> for
> > the gas (and oil, if necessary) and we can work out some kind of split
on
> > lodging costs, and we can negotiate other terms as needed.
> >
> > The car has a fresh 1275 cc engine, front disc brakes, upgraded rear
drums
> > brakes, a factory hardtop and a few spares that need to brought along.
> >
> > So, anyone feeling lucky? I'm in no hurry so the timeframe is not too
> > important. Potentially this could even wait until after the holidays.
> The
> > weather stays nice along the southern tier of the country pretty much
> > throughout the winter, so weather should not be a factor.
> >
> > Call now, operators are standing by! Your adventure awaits!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Reid Trummel
> > Tampa, Florida
> > '56 BN2 100M
> > '56 BN2 100 w/Le Mans Kit
> > '60 AN5 Sprite "Lucky"
> > '60 AN5 Sprite (in San Diego)
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From "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:21:10 -0600
Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
Especially if he has a Winters Quick change or a Weaver Dry sump pump...6
stage of course....
funny I was chatting with John Hunt about it and the one piece that I would
like to be the same as the original Healey Streamliner is the Steering
wheel... don't know exactly how to do that yet.. but in my mind that is
what the car has to have.... ( less the fire system of course )
Keith
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> From: kirk kvam <62BT7@prodigy.net>
> To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; Quinn, Patrick
<Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au>; AHCUSA@excite.com; healeys@autox.team.net;
spridgets@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
> Date: Thursday, November 02, 2000 9:08 AM
>
> Hey Keith,
>
> If Patrick RON's at your house while transporting
> the Sprite sounds to me that might be a great
> oppritunity to do some parts swaping for your Land Speed Sprite.
>
> Kirk
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> To: "Quinn, Patrick" <Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au>; <AHCUSA@excite.com>;
> <healeys@autox.team.net>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 11:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
>
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> > Patrick.... You do this.... I live just off the interstate once you get
> into
> > the northern Pan Handle of Florida....
> >
> > You would sure be welcome to stop by and spend the night.... K
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Quinn, Patrick" <Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au>
> > To: <AHCUSA@excite.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>;
> > <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 7:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
> >
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> > >
> > > Hi Reid
> > >
> > > I would love to drive the Bugeye from California to Florida. Am happy
to
> > > split
> > > lodging costs.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Patrick Quinn
> > > Sydney, Australia
> > >
> > > ps No doubt you would be happy to pay for my return airfare from
> > Australia?
> > >
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> > > >>> Reid Trummel 2/11/00 7:54:00 >>>
> > >
> > > OK team,
> > >
> > > This is one of those once-in-a-lifetime opportunities knocking (or is
> that
> > > noise we hear just low-octane gas?). Anyway, there is a Bugeye
Sprite
> in
> > > southern California -- San Diego to be specific -- that wants to be
here
> > in
> > > Tampa, Florida. There are only a couple of ways to get it here: pay
to
> > have
> > > it transported (kinda expensive), tow it (no fun), or drive it. I
don't
> > > have the time to drive it out here myself, so I wonder if any of
you-all
> > > might be interested in a road trip?
> > >
> > > I've made many coast-to-coast drives in Healeys, and it has always
been
> an
> > > adventure. I wish I had the time to make this trip myself, but I
just
> > > absolutely do not have the necessary vacation time available. I'll
pay
> > for
> > > the gas (and oil, if necessary) and we can work out some kind of
split
> on
> > > lodging costs, and we can negotiate other terms as needed.
> > >
> > > The car has a fresh 1275 cc engine, front disc brakes, upgraded rear
> drums
> > > brakes, a factory hardtop and a few spares that need to brought
along.
> > >
> > > So, anyone feeling lucky? I'm in no hurry so the timeframe is not
too
> > > important. Potentially this could even wait until after the
holidays.
> > The
> > > weather stays nice along the southern tier of the country pretty much
> > > throughout the winter, so weather should not be a factor.
> > >
> > > Call now, operators are standing by! Your adventure awaits!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Reid Trummel
> > > Tampa, Florida
> > > '56 BN2 100M
> > > '56 BN2 100 w/Le Mans Kit
> > > '60 AN5 Sprite "Lucky"
> > > '60 AN5 Sprite (in San Diego)
> > > http://www.healey.org
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From Dean Caccavo <healeybn7 at yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:40:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Looking for British car activities next weekend
I will be marooned in Virginia (DC) for the weekend of
November 11/12 on business. I would be grateful for
any recommendations of British car events or Healey
places of interest.
Thanks
Dean BN7 (the ultimate Healey compromise between a AN5
and BJ8)
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From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 09:55:57 -0600
Subject: Listquest archives
Hi Fellows
Has anyone in the last two weeks or more had success in accessing the
Healey archives on Listquest.com?
Kind regards
Ed
Saskatoon
'65 BJ8
From TBanks at LEVI.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 08:31:55 -0800
Subject: RE: BN1 or BJ8?
Hello,
Also as a first time buyer, I faced the same (welcome) dilemma earlier this
year and decided in favour of the BJ8. Reasons (in rough order of
importance) were...
- I found the BJ8 I wanted before I fell for any other car;
- as well as weekend drives, my intention is to make one, maybe two, long
tours per year in Western Europe, so weather protection becomes important;
- two small extra seats have won great favour with small extra passengers
(otherwise referred to nephews and niece);
- as a novice under the bonnet, the marginally easier level of maintenance
might prove significant.
Most of these sound like horribly rational reasons, but I considered at
least a hint of rationality in the totally irrational idea of buying a
Healey, to be not bad thing. I guess the bottom line is that its a personal
thing - which model suits you and yours best.
Rgds,
Tom Banks
1964 BJ8 (since 3 months)
-----Original Message-----
From: Jae Lee [mailto:jlee@cogentlight.com]
Sent: 31 October 2000 19:29
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: BN1 or BJ8?
Hi all,
I have been in the market for my first Austin Healey for a few months now
and I have a few questions. I thought I was keyed into a 3000 Mk II or Mk
III, but I recently test drove a 55 BN1. Now I'm confused on which car I
want. I know am definitely interested in a weekend driver in very good
condition.
For all you experienced Healey owners, and I know some of you own quite a
few cars, here are my questions:
1. What are the pros and cons between a BN1 and BJ8?
2. Are BN1s becoming more rare and collectible?
3. What are the parts availability on both cars?
4. For a first-time buyer, which car do you recommend?
5. Which car is easier to maintain and restore?
All replys would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Jonathan Lee
From John Loftus <loftusdesign at home.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 09:00:32 -0800
Subject: Re: Listquest archives
Ed,
No success here. I've left several messages to support@listquest.com
explaining the problem but no responses or fixes yet.
Regards,
John
"M.E.&E.A. Driver" wrote:
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> Has anyone in the last two weeks or more had success in accessing the
> Healey archives on Listquest.com?
>
> Kind regards
> Ed
> Saskatoon
> '65 BJ8
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:12:38 EST
Subject: Re: Crankcase and valve cover breather
In a message dated 11/1/00 10:00:32 PM, dyarber@dynasty.net writes:
<< Hey gang:
I hooked up a hose to my crankcase breather, ran it to the valve cover
breather and out the other side to the middle carb on my BN7. Now I get a
lot of oily soot in my exhaust. Is this a normal condition? Is the carb
sucking oil out of the top of the valve cover or what is going on? >>
Oil out the exhaust certainly can be a symptom of oil from under the valve
cover winding up in the carb intake through the breather hose. Easy to check:
Just take the valve cover off and run the engine. What you SHOULD observe is
oil quietly gurgling out the holes in the top of the valve train. If what
you DO observe is an oily Old Faithful, then you will need to have the valve
train worked over (again, if they did it on the engine rebuild).
Cheers
Gary Anderson
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 11:12:08 -0600
Subject: A Phoenix contact
Hi Fellows
Could someone in the Phoenix area contact me off the list, thanks.
Kind regards
Ed
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
'65 BJ8
From "Don Yarber" <dyarber at dynasty.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:37:39 -0600
Subject: Valve Cover/Crankcase/exhauste oil
Thanks to all who responded regarding subject.
I'm not sure if the guy who rebuilt the engine did anything to the rocker
arm assembly or not. I'll call him and ask.
Don
BN7
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The
Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the
difference.
From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 10:38:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
This is NOT a bad idea at all. A little tough to work out all of the
logistics, but there's merit in this...
Although it's more likely that one (or maybe two) people will drive it the
whole distance, we could still use club/list member hospitality for lodging
along the route. Stay tuned.
Cheers,
Reid
On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 11:11:58 -0600, Charley & Peggy Robinson wrote:
>
> I got it! We'll do it in relays! Someone can take it to, say,
> Phoenix, Someone else brings it to me. I take it to, hm, Shreveport,
> someone else, er, you get the idea. Any volunteers? (BG)
>
> CR
>
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Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
'56 BN2 100M
'56 BN2 100 w/Le Mans Kit
'60 AN5 Sprite "Lucky"
http://www.healey.org
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From "Pagel, John" <John.Pagel at imotors.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:16:42 -0800
Subject: RE: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
Sweet, are we going to get updates to the list along the way so we can live
the adventure?
-----Original Message-----
From: Reid Trummel [mailto:AHCUSA@excite.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:39 AM
To: Charley & Peggy Robinson; WFO Herb
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
This is NOT a bad idea at all. A little tough to work out all of the
logistics, but there's merit in this...
Although it's more likely that one (or maybe two) people will drive it the
whole distance, we could still use club/list member hospitality for lodging
along the route. Stay tuned.
Cheers,
Reid
On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 11:11:58 -0600, Charley & Peggy Robinson wrote:
>
> I got it! We'll do it in relays! Someone can take it to, say,
> Phoenix, Someone else brings it to me. I take it to, hm, Shreveport,
> someone else, er, you get the idea. Any volunteers? (BG)
>
> CR
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Tampa, Florida
'56 BN2 100M
'56 BN2 100 w/Le Mans Kit
'60 AN5 Sprite "Lucky"
http://www.healey.org
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From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:23:24 -0800
Subject: RE: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
"Damn Hell! I think I see the 'pattern'. I can see you will need lot's of
legal advice before this is over. I guess this blows my weekend, because
naturally I'll have to go with you. And we'll have to arm ourselves."
Hunter S. Thompson
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
It's amazing the ridiculous things we get ourselves involved in. I would
definately be interested if it would work with my school schedule. Which it
probably wouldn't. If not have a great trip and watch out for Bats.
Jonathan Lane
-----Original Message-----
From: Reid Trummel [mailto:AHCUSA@excite.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:54 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
OK team,
This is one of those once-in-a-lifetime opportunities knocking (or is that
noise we hear just low-octane gas?). Anyway, there is a Bugeye Sprite in
southern California -- San Diego to be specific -- that wants to be here in
Tampa, Florida. There are only a couple of ways to get it here: pay to have
it transported (kinda expensive), tow it (no fun), or drive it. I don't
have the time to drive it out here myself, so I wonder if any of you-all
might be interested in a road trip?
I've made many coast-to-coast drives in Healeys, and it has always been an
adventure. I wish I had the time to make this trip myself, but I just
absolutely do not have the necessary vacation time available. I'll pay for
the gas (and oil, if necessary) and we can work out some kind of split on
lodging costs, and we can negotiate other terms as needed.
The car has a fresh 1275 cc engine, front disc brakes, upgraded rear drums
brakes, a factory hardtop and a few spares that need to brought along.
So, anyone feeling lucky? I'm in no hurry so the timeframe is not too
important. Potentially this could even wait until after the holidays. The
weather stays nice along the southern tier of the country pretty much
throughout the winter, so weather should not be a factor.
Call now, operators are standing by! Your adventure awaits!
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
'56 BN2 100M
'56 BN2 100 w/Le Mans Kit
'60 AN5 Sprite "Lucky"
'60 AN5 Sprite (in San Diego)
http://www.healey.org
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From LarryRPH at aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:54:51 EST
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
It's time for a kind word about the neglected BN 6. I own a BJ 7 and a BN
6 and love them both. The BJ 7 has more HP and weather protection is
superior but having just recently driven the BN 6 over 3000 miles on the
UK2K , I can attest to its more than adequate mountain climbing power ,
durability and attention getting charm. I personally think the 2 seats
give the whole car a different "look." The "beehive" grille gives the front
a great appearance! It is a great "Road car" - steady and solid!
I find it impossible to make a choice and to favor one over the other-
after all, they are both Austin-Healeys"
I hope this doesn't start a flame war!
Larry Wysocki
BN 6
BJ 7
From James B Dalglish <leaker at exit109.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 17:26:04 -0500
Subject: BN1 or BJ8?
A few years ago I tried to buy an unmolested BN2 unsuccessfully from a
70ish gentleman from Bala Cynwood, Pa who told in no uncertain terms
that any Healey with a hood scoop was meant for a peasant.
I'm off to eat some mutton.
Jim Dalglish
60BT7
From "Andrew Shrimpton" <stanhickeycon at clear.net.nz>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:03:58 +1300
Subject: Thermostat
Just bought a thermostat for my 3000 and it doesn't fit. Have double
checked it is the right one TT1-180. It's flange overlaps the hole in
the block and there is no rebate for it to sit in. Nor is there one in
the cover. It looks a little different to the drawing in my parts
book, but I'm asured this is the one all the Austins use nowdays.
Can anyone advise how to make it fit? Thanks
Andrew Shrimpton
AH3000
New Zealand
From Norman Cay <normcay at earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 15:46:49 -0800
Subject: Re: Thermostat
Andrew, you must be mistaken. The television travel channels and the NZ
tourist publications have made it very clear that there are no days there
where the weather would warrant such a thing as a thermostat. (sorry I
can't help)
Norm - BN1, BN2, MKII 3.8 Jag, TR6R(650) - San Francisco Bay area
Andrew Shrimpton wrote:
> Just bought a thermostat for my 3000 and it doesn't fit. Have double
> checked it is the right one TT1-180. It's flange overlaps the hole in
> the block and there is no rebate for it to sit in. Nor is there one in
> the cover. It looks a little different to the drawing in my parts
> book, but I'm asured this is the one all the Austins use nowdays.
>
> Can anyone advise how to make it fit? Thanks
>
> Andrew Shrimpton
> AH3000
> New Zealand
From "Quinn, Patrick" <Patrick.QUINN at det.nsw.edu.au>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:02:00 +1100
Subject: Re: Thermostat
Hi Andrew
Us over here in NZ's third island looked at the thermostat problems fairly
closely.
We found a thermostat from the AU Ford Falcon taxi fits perfectly.
Additionally it has a larger internal diameter which allows greater water
flow.
Regards
Patrick Quinn
Sydney, Australia
>>> Andrew Shrimpton 3/11/00 6:03:58 >>>
Just bought a thermostat for my 3000 and it doesn't fit. Have double
checked it is the right one TT1-180. It's flange overlaps the hole in
the block and there is no rebate for it to sit in. Nor is there one in
the cover. It looks a little different to the drawing in my parts
book, but I'm asured this is the one all the Austins use nowdays.
Can anyone advise how to make it fit? Thanks
Andrew Shrimpton
AH3000
New Zealand
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:32:50 EST
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
Thought you all would get a kick out of the following ad, which I quote
carefully and verbatim, from the latest issue of Sports Car Market Magazine:
"59 100-6 BN4, 2-seater, British racing green, frame-off total restoration
done by award winning specialist. $23,500 Jim Haines 330-864-8141 OH. "
Very rare, those two-seat BN4s! Especially in British racing green. Wonder
what awards this "specialist" has won? Reminds me of the references on "Car
Talk" to mechanics who "specialize in all brands of cars, foreign and
domestic."
Cheers
Gary
From Bill Pollock <wjpollock at erols.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 19:41:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
If this is a serious inquiry I could be interested. Will have reason to be in
either northern or southern CA
after the holidays. Contact me off line.
Bill Pollock
Newington CT
Quinn, Patrick wrote:
> Hi Reid
>
> I would love to drive the Bugeye from California to Florida. Am happy to
> split
> lodging costs.
>
> Regards
>
> Patrick Quinn
> Sydney, Australia
>
> ps No doubt you would be happy to pay for my return airfare from Australia?
>
> >>> Reid Trummel 2/11/00 7:54:00 >>>
>
> OK team,
>
> This is one of those once-in-a-lifetime opportunities knocking (or is that
> noise we hear just low-octane gas?). Anyway, there is a Bugeye Sprite in
> southern California -- San Diego to be specific -- that wants to be here in
> Tampa, Florida. There are only a couple of ways to get it here: pay to have
> it transported (kinda expensive), tow it (no fun), or drive it. I don't
> have the time to drive it out here myself, so I wonder if any of you-all
> might be interested in a road trip?
>
> I've made many coast-to-coast drives in Healeys, and it has always been an
> adventure. I wish I had the time to make this trip myself, but I just
> absolutely do not have the necessary vacation time available. I'll pay for
> the gas (and oil, if necessary) and we can work out some kind of split on
> lodging costs, and we can negotiate other terms as needed.
>
> The car has a fresh 1275 cc engine, front disc brakes, upgraded rear drums
> brakes, a factory hardtop and a few spares that need to brought along.
>
> So, anyone feeling lucky? I'm in no hurry so the timeframe is not too
> important. Potentially this could even wait until after the holidays. The
> weather stays nice along the southern tier of the country pretty much
> throughout the winter, so weather should not be a factor.
>
> Call now, operators are standing by! Your adventure awaits!
>
> Cheers,
> Reid Trummel
> Tampa, Florida
> '56 BN2 100M
> '56 BN2 100 w/Le Mans Kit
> '60 AN5 Sprite "Lucky"
> '60 AN5 Sprite (in San Diego)
> http://www.healey.org
>
> _______________________________________________________
> Say Bye to Slow Internet!
> http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
From "Don Yarber" <dyarber at dynasty.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:44:31 -0600
Subject: Beware of Chickens Crossing Roads ? NO HEALEY CONTENT, HUMOR ONLY
Why did the chicken
cross the road?
VICE PRESIDENT GORE
I fight for the
chickens and I am fighting for the chickens right now. I
will not give
up on the chickens crossing the road! I will fight for the
chickens
and I will not disappoint them.
GOVERNOR GEORGE W. BUSH
I don't believe we need to get the chickens across the road. I say
give
the road to the chickens and let them decide. The government
needs to
let go of strangling the chickens and then getting them
across the road.
?????????????
SENATOR LIEBERMAN
I believe that every
chicken has the right to worship their God in their
own way. Crossing
the road is a spiritual journey and no chicken should
be denied the
right to cross the road in their own way.
SECRETARY
CHENEY
Chickens are big-time because they have wings. They could fly
if they
wanted to. Chickens don't want to cross the road. They don't
need help
crossing the road. In fact, I'm not interested in crossing
the road
myself.
RALPH NADER
Chickens are
misled into believing there is a road by the evil
tiremakers. Chickens
aren't ignorant, but our society pays tiremakers to
create the need
for these roads and then lures chickens into believing
there is an
advantage to crossing them. Down with the roads, up with
chickens.
PAT BUCHANAN
To steal a job from a decent,
hardworking American.
JERRY FALWELL
Because the chicken
was gay! Isn't it obvious? Can't you people see the
plain truth in
front of your face? The chicken was going to the "other
side." That's
what "they" call it- the "other side." Yes, my friends,
that chicken
is gay. And, if you eat that chicken, you will become gay
too. I say
we boycott all chickens until we sort out this abomination
that the
liberal media whitewashes with seemingly harmless phrases like
"the
other side." That chicken should not be free to cross the road.
It's
as plain and simple as that.
DR. SEUSS
Did the chicken
cross the road?
Did he cross it with a toad?
Yes! The
chicken crossed the road,
but why it crossed, I've not been
told!
ERNEST HEMINGWAY
To die. In the
rain.
MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
I envision a world where
all chickens will be free to cross without
having their motives called
into question.
GRANDPA
In my day, we didn't ask why the
chicken crossed the road. Someone told
us that the chicken crossed the
road, and that was good enough for us.
ARISTOTLE
It is
the nature of chickens to cross the road.
KARL MARX
It
was an historical inevitability.
SADDAM HUSSEIN
This was
an unprovoked act of rebellion and we were quite justified in
dropping
50 tons of nerve gas on it.
RONALD REAGAN
What
chicken?
CAPTAIN JAMES T. KIRK
To boldly go where no
chicken has gone before.
FOX MULDER
You saw it cross the
road with your own eyes. How many more chickens
have to cross before
you believe it?
FREUD
The fact that you are at all
concerned that the chicken crossed the road
reveals your underlying
sexual insecurity.
BILL GATES
I have just released
e-Chicken 2000, which will not only cross roads,
but will lay eggs,
file your important documents, and balance your
checkbook -- and
Internet Explorer is an inextricable part of e-Chicken.
EINSTEIN
Did the chicken really cross the road or did the road move
beneath the
chicken?
BILL CLINTON
I did not
cross the road with THAT chicken. What do you mean by
"chicken"? Could
you define "chicken" please?
GEORGE BUSH
I don't think I
should have to answer that question.
LOUIS FARRAKHAN
The
road, you will see, represents the black man. The chicken crossed
the
"black man" in order to trample him and keep him down.
THE
BIBLE
And God came down from the heavens, and He said unto the
chicken, "Thou
shalt cross the road." And the chicken crossed the
road, and there was
much rejoicing.
DON YARBER
With my luck, to become a hood ornament for my BN7.
COLONEL
SANDERS
I missed one?
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The
Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the
difference.
From "Joseph Giuliano" <joe.giuliano at giuliano.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 20:41:38 -0500
Subject: FS:BJ8 1967
For sale. 1967 BJ8. 63K miles. Owned by same family since new. This was
my brother's high school graduation present.
Recently restored (never driven since). New top and carpets, original
seats. Paint is great. No rust.
Asking 27K.
In Fort Lauderdale, FL.
See these pictures for an idea of what this car looks like.
If you have any questions please e-mail me at joe.giuliano@giuliano.com
This is a very nice car with a well documented history.
http://joe.giuliano.home.mindspring.com/default.htm
Joe
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:06:29 EST
Subject: Re: FS:BJ8 1967
For what it is worth, I have worked with Joe and the shop doing the work on
this car and, w/o seeing pics, have to say that the attention to what needs
to be done pretty much correct, has been adhered to. I have also spent some
time on phone with shop owner whom is detail oriented. NFI
Cheers................
Ed
**********************
In a message dated 11/02/2000 7:45:01 PM Central Standard Time,
joe.giuliano@giuliano.com writes:
<<
For sale. 1967 BJ8. 63K miles. Owned by same family since new. This was
my brother's high school graduation present.
Recently restored (never driven since). New top and carpets, original
seats. Paint is great. No rust.
Asking 27K.
In Fort Lauderdale, FL.
See these pictures for an idea of what this car looks like.
If you have any questions please e-mail me at joe.giuliano@giuliano.com
This is a very nice car with a well documented history.
http://joe.giuliano.home.mindspring.com/default.htm
Joe
>>
From "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:51:50 -0500
Subject: Re: odd parts
Dennis Broughel wrote:
> I am planning on a 2 year restoration, ...
Ha ha ha ha ha ... Oh. Sorry.
"I sincerely wish you the best of luck in your endeavor."
Kent McLean
whose own '56 BN2 has sat behind my family's shed for *26* years
anticipating "a 2 year restoration."
From Mr Finespanner <mrfinespanner at blazenet.net>
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 23:26:50 -0800
Subject: Re: FW: 3 x HS6s
Simon,
The HS6 carb will bolt directly to the tri-carb (HS4) manifolds. There are
4 holes already drilled and tapped into those manfolds. The reason for this
is that the prototype tri-carb cars were designed and built with triple
1-3/4" carbs, but were changed to 1-1/2" carbs for production.
It's possible that the 1-3/4" throttle disc will interfere with the 1-1/2"
dia in the HS4 manifold. I've never checked because adding the bigger carb
without opening the manifold is a waste of time and money (MHO). The stock
manifolds can be machined out to 1-3/4" diameter - you can judge how deep
by eye, then blend that diameter with the two outlet diameters that bolt to
the head. (I opened stock tri-carb manifolds to 2" to fit my triple HD8's,
but had to add metal on the sides - you won't have to do this).
You can also buy 1-3/4" tri-carb manifolds from Denis Welch.
I would use HD6 carbs instead of HS6 carbs - I personally don't like the
plastic tube that goes from the float to the jet on HS carbs. Plus, it's
easier to convert all three carb float chambers to left-hand using HD carbs
and will fit nicely in the engine compartment
If you want to discuss this modification in more detail, contact me offline
or call me at night at 717-235-1086. There is more to talk about regarding
the stock cast iron headers. The 1-3/4" tri-carb set-up is a great way to
go for a road car and occasional autocrosser.
Del Border
Tri-Carb OO w/triple 2"
Simon Lachlan wrote:
> Winter has arrived in Devon. It's more a function of
> damp than cold, but it's pretty poor Healey weather, so
> I shall soon lay up the car and embark on the Winter's first
> Great Project......
>
> I am going to put HS6s on my BT7. I can get most of the
> bits fairly easily and fairly cheaply, but the knowledge
> is harder to come by. So, some questions if you please:-
> Q) Is there, was there a post somewhere that covers this??
> Q) Or something that comes close??
>
> Q) And, do the standard BT7 inlet manifolds (HS4) take HS6s??
> (I can see no reason why they should!) But, I have been
> assured that they fit on fine and no machining work is necessary.
> (This assurance came from a source that is better at supplying
> than at fixing and doing).
>
> Q) Let's assume that the manifolds don't fit-can they be machined out??
> Q) Or, is there a donor car type, source of these manifolds??
>
> Q) I have never stripped an SU down to it's constituents. Can they be
> converted from left to right handed or vice verca??? (I refer to the
> location of the float chamber etc).
>
> Webers can be found, but the project assumes serious costs with them
> and a Great Project should not become a Superhuman Endeavour. You
> know what I mean.........Great Projects follow one after another.
> The HS6s will be followed by reanodizing the hardtop bits and the cabin
> surrounds........then rechrome the bumpers etc.
>
> Simon.
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:35:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Paint Specifications
Joe
I hope Kent Lacy responds to you. He knows an awful lot aboout paint
andpainting, but until then I'll chime in with my two cents and experience.
I have a BT7 Tricarb and just consigned a Daimler SP250 to the junkyard after
a serious rear-ender. I'll send you some photos of the SP250 (in five seperate
emails if you don't mind since I haven't figured out how to attach the entire
set yet <G>)
I did the same for both cars, as follws: I prepped the bodies - metal in
thecase of the BT7 and fibreglas in the case of theSP, as well as possible and
then sealed them with a PPG sealer and primed with a PPG epoxy primer (KN36 I
think) and then wet sanded using light coats of black marker mist soIcould see
the highs and lows. (The KN36 is an eggshell yellow). After I was satisfied
that I had a flat and fair substrate I sealed again and laid down a full
covercoat of basecoat (color) and followed with clearcoat. Follow the
directions for flash time and make sure you get total coverage of the colorcoat
(basecoat). You can then out on several coats of the clear so you have a wet
sanding surface and buffing surface.
The advantage of this method isyou never sand down to the color coat and can
lay down enough clearcoat so you can achieve a smooth (no orange peel) and
glass-like surface on the clearcoat safely.
This gives you good color and a durable shiny result.
I would recommend that you pick your color from Don's book and then match it at
your paint supplier in a modern formulation like DuPont, PPG, Glasserit,
Sikkins, Martin Senour etc. That way you can always spot and repair and
duplicate the color and materials. The modern paints are very forgiving and
durable and repairable. I would say the same if you want to use lacquer rather
than a uerethane or catalysed paint system.
Finish with successive wet sandings starting with 600 and progressing through
1000, 1200, 1500 and then buff with Black Magic or a glaze material.
Remember that the surface prep and the priming and sanding of the primer is
key. Then the colorcoat and clear coat are a piece of cake.
Good luck
Dick B
---- you wrote:
>
> We had a nasty hit from a Scottish Lizzy while on the Austin Healey trip to
> Great Britain in September. No injuries, but the right rear fender must be
> replaced and the entire car repainted. I have the color specifications,
> thanks to Don Pkiovnik's book on Austin Healey colors. As I am not well
> versed in paint, would like some advice on type of paint, number of coats,
> type of coating over the paint and any other recommendations.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Joe Smathers
> 55 BN1 ( Wrecked )
> 60 BT7
>
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From CNAArndt at aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:26:37 EST
Subject: BN1/2 ORIG. BUMPER/CLUTCH PARTS
>Curt, any news on the new clutch rods you were looking at having made.
Ward Stebner
Saskatoon, SK
1956 BN2<
Hi All
I know its been a while since I last talked about some of the parts that I
was having reproduced, but last month was extremely busy at work and I had
planned to finish things up during my two week vacation in November. This
plus getting our new '60 Bugeye up and running before Thanksgiving.
For those who replied and expressed interest, thank you. I plan to
correspond by e-mail personally to every one within the next two weeks to
firm up orders and to nail down prices. So for now here is the updated
information.
1. Bumper Overrider Support Brackets: The material and plans are at my
fabricators as of yesterday and I hope to have them made up by the end of
next week. Remember I am having both types of brackets made up. The
majority of the orders were for the two loose brackets that fit in the rear
bumper, but I am also making up some of the captive brackets with 3/8" stud
(six per car, four on front bumper and two on rear bumper) that are welded
inside of the bumpers for those who are having their bumpers replated and
would like to replace those mangled, broken or missing ones. Estimated cost
of $6.00 per bracket maximum but probably less.
2. Bumper Overrider Carriage Bolts: My machinist has the plans and should
have the basic bolts turned on the lathe by mid next week. I'll still need
to mill the flats myself (trying to keep costs down) and then they'll need to
be plated. I believe that I've located a source for the original style
"square profile, British type lock washers" as well as the correct size flat
washer and nut. It was hard to keep the prices down on this item because of
the machinists costs so estimated cost of all four bolts complete will be
about $28.00 or less, I hope.
3. Original Style Clutch Rods and Lever: Plans are at the fabricators for
the Clutch Rods but I'm still waiting for the clutch lever plans. Still
finalizing materials and costs but hope to have everything nailed down within
the next two weeks.
Once again, I am having these parts reproduced as close to original as
possible so please be patient. Also feel free to e-mail me with any
questions or if anyone else on the list would like to get any of these parts
please contact me as soon as possible
Cheers
Curt Arndt
>Hi all
A few years ago I made up a small batch of brackets that were fitted inside
the rear bumpers of the BN1/2's. These were made up for the few of us that
were interested in originality and completeness when restoring our cars. It
appeared that very many cars were missing these brackets due to the fact that
they could be misplaced or lost if the bumper overridders were taken off. I
seem to remember that I made up about twenty pairs of these brackets that
usually traded for other parts over the past seven years. I ran out of them
last year and since then I have received quite a few requests to make up some
more.
Anyway, I was discussing this with Roger Moment and he expressed an interest
in not only the brackets but the special carriage bolts that are used to
attach the original bumper overridders. Anyway, I have access to a couple of
local craftsman that are willing to do a small run of these parts. I
currently have over half the number of people committed to make a small run
economically feasible and I thought that with the world wide reach of the
Healey List that I would see if any one else would be interested. Since I
don't have any pictures available as of yet I will attempt to describe what I
am offering.
1. Bumper Overridder Support Brackets: There are two loose brackets inside
the rear bumper that support the nut and washers that hold on the
overridders. Also, there are six more of these brackets that are welded
inside of the bumpers (four on the front and two on the rear) that are used
to mount the bumpers to the bumper brackets on the car. Each bracket is
about 2" X 3" with small tabs bent over on each end. The two loose brackets
have a 5/8'" hole in the center while the six "captive" brackets have a 1"
long 3/8" UNF stud welded in the center. Most of the time when an original
bumper is straightened prior to being re-chromed, these brackets, many in
poor shape to begin with, are cut out and then re-welded in. I've talked
already with a few people interested in purchasing all eight of these for
their cars. I hope to get the cost down to about $4.00/bracket if there is
enough interest .
2. Bumper Overridder Carriage Bolts: These four bolts were unique to the
BN1/2's and will only fit the original overridders since the after market
ones are attached with a regular Hex bolt that screws into a captive nut in
the overridder. The two short bolts (1 & 1/2") hold the front overridders on
and two long bolts (2") hold the rear ones on. Each bolt is a special high
domed head, 7/16" UNF thread carriage bolt that is not available through any
supplier. I am hopping to get the cost of a set of four bolts plus nuts and
washers down to about $25.00.
3. Original Style Clutch Rods and Lever: The only clutch operating rods and
lever available for many years, that I am aware of, have been manufactured
by Kilmartin in Australia. The clutch operating lever and long rod that
Kilmartin makes are very close to the originals, however the short rod is
made out of square steel stock instead of 5/16" steel rod like the original.
The reason for this is that the original rods were very prone to breaking
because of the stress put on this thin steel rod. My machinist is making up
a few sets of these clutch rods out of a very strong stainless steel that
will look identical to the originals but will be designed not to break like
the originals. I already have about six people interested in these items
(two clutch rods and the operating lever), but if anyone else is interested
in original looking, quality parts designed to last, let me know since the
price will go down the more I have made. No specific quote yet on price yet,
however my machinist and I think that they will be in the range of what the
various vendors currently sell the Kilmartin parts for.
My apologies for the rather lengthy post however I knew of now way to get
this information out to as many potentially interested people in such short
time. BTW the cost of these items will reflect the actual cost of
manufacturing plus my expenses, i.e. there is no profit margin built in! All
of these parts will be made as close to or better than original in both
quality and materials. I would have had these items made up for myself and a
couple of others, but this way a lot more people benefit with better parts
for their cars. Please contact me off list with any question you might have.
Cheers
Curt Arndt
Carlsbad, CA (San Diego Austin Healey Club)
cnaarndt@aol.com<
From "Bill Poff" <wpoff at bcpl.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:46:38 -0500
Subject: Starter Motor for BN2
A while ago I remember an Email that mentioned a gear reduction starter for
100-4 cars. Does anyone have any information on this starter and where to
purchase one.
Thanks,
Bill Poff
1956 Austin Healey 100-4
1956 Austin Healey 100M (Factory)
From jclose at sduhsd.k12.ca.us
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 14:55:01 -0800
Subject: 3.50 Gearsets
These available? Source, please? Thanks - JohnC, BN6
From HLYDOC at aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:59:29 EST
Subject: Re: Starter Motor for BN2
The torque starter we installed on that car and have them abvailable. They
increase the starter speed approximatly 3 times and also the torque is
dramaticly increased as well.
David Nock
President/Service Manager
British Car Specialists
2060 N Wilson Way
Stockton Calif. 95205
209-948-8767 fax 209-948-1030 email HealeyDoc@aol.com
Visit our new web site at <A HREF="http://britishcarspecialists.com/";>
BritishCarSpecialists.com</A>
========================================
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From "JISah102" <ah102 at home.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 16:30:21 -0500
Subject: Re: Starter Motor for BN2
Bill: Go to http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/ I have one on my
100-4 vintage racer, and I am very happy with it. Lighter weight, less
current draw, turns motor over faster. $225
(no financial connection...B-beep, B-bopp, B-boo)
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Poff <wpoff@bcpl.net>
To: Healey list (E-mail) <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 1:46 PM
Subject: Starter Motor for BN2
>
> A while ago I remember an Email that mentioned a gear reduction starter
for
> 100-4 cars. Does anyone have any information on this starter and where to
> purchase one.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Poff
> 1956 Austin Healey 100-4
> 1956 Austin Healey 100M (Factory)
>
>
From Dean Caccavo <healeybn7 at yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:59:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Healey Hot Wheels Model
Took the Healey out for lunch today and was stopped by
a gentleman that said that Mattel just released a 3000
model which is silver over black.
I have not seen it but, I thought the list would like
to know. Now for just $.99 I can start brian washing
my 3 year old that much sooner.
Dean BN7
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From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:16:08 -0800
Subject: RE: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
Keith,
"The Story of the Big Healeys" has a good picture of the steering wheel. I
doesn't look like a standard 100 hub could be modified in any way to look
like that. Probably the hub came from another car. Maybe our British friends
can identify the hub?
Ken Freese
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Turk [mailto:kturk@ala.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 7:21 AM
To: kirk kvam; Quinn, Patrick; AHCUSA@excite.com;
healeys@autox.team.net; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
Especially if he has a Winters Quick change or a Weaver Dry sump pump...6
stage of course....
funny I was chatting with John Hunt about it and the one piece that I would
like to be the same as the original Healey Streamliner is the Steering
wheel... don't know exactly how to do that yet.. but in my mind that is
what the car has to have.... ( less the fire system of course )
Keith
----------
> From: kirk kvam <62BT7@prodigy.net>
> To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; Quinn, Patrick
<Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au>; AHCUSA@excite.com; healeys@autox.team.net;
spridgets@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
> Date: Thursday, November 02, 2000 9:08 AM
>
> Hey Keith,
>
> If Patrick RON's at your house while transporting
> the Sprite sounds to me that might be a great
> oppritunity to do some parts swaping for your Land Speed Sprite.
>
> Kirk
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> To: "Quinn, Patrick" <Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au>; <AHCUSA@excite.com>;
> <healeys@autox.team.net>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 11:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
>
>
> >
> > Patrick.... You do this.... I live just off the interstate once you get
> into
> > the northern Pan Handle of Florida....
> >
> > You would sure be welcome to stop by and spend the night.... K
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Quinn, Patrick" <Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au>
> > To: <AHCUSA@excite.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>;
> > <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 7:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: Wanna Drive a Bugeye Coast-to-Coast?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Reid
> > >
> > > I would love to drive the Bugeye from California to Florida. Am happy
to
> > > split
> > > lodging costs.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Patrick Quinn
> > > Sydney, Australia
> > >
> > > ps No doubt you would be happy to pay for my return airfare from
> > Australia?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >>> Reid Trummel 2/11/00 7:54:00 >>>
> > >
> > > OK team,
> > >
> > > This is one of those once-in-a-lifetime opportunities knocking (or is
> that
> > > noise we hear just low-octane gas?). Anyway, there is a Bugeye
Sprite
> in
> > > southern California -- San Diego to be specific -- that wants to be
here
> > in
> > > Tampa, Florida. There are only a couple of ways to get it here: pay
to
> > have
> > > it transported (kinda expensive), tow it (no fun), or drive it. I
don't
> > > have the time to drive it out here myself, so I wonder if any of
you-all
> > > might be interested in a road trip?
> > >
> > > I've made many coast-to-coast drives in Healeys, and it has always
been
> an
> > > adventure. I wish I had the time to make this trip myself, but I
just
> > > absolutely do not have the necessary vacation time available. I'll
pay
> > for
> > > the gas (and oil, if necessary) and we can work out some kind of
split
> on
> > > lodging costs, and we can negotiate other terms as needed.
> > >
> > > The car has a fresh 1275 cc engine, front disc brakes, upgraded rear
> drums
> > > brakes, a factory hardtop and a few spares that need to brought
along.
> > >
> > > So, anyone feeling lucky? I'm in no hurry so the timeframe is not
too
> > > important. Potentially this could even wait until after the
holidays.
> > The
> > > weather stays nice along the southern tier of the country pretty much
> > > throughout the winter, so weather should not be a factor.
> > >
> > > Call now, operators are standing by! Your adventure awaits!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Reid Trummel
> > > Tampa, Florida
> > > '56 BN2 100M
> > > '56 BN2 100 w/Le Mans Kit
> > > '60 AN5 Sprite "Lucky"
> > > '60 AN5 Sprite (in San Diego)
> > > http://www.healey.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________________
> > > Say Bye to Slow Internet!
> > > http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
> > >
> > >
> >
>
From "Jerry Costanzo" <costan0 at attglobal.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:21:51 -0800
Subject: BN1 or BJ8 but what about BN4 and BN6
This was an interesting thread talking about comfort, power, and the early
character of the 4 cylinder cars. Only one person talked about BN6 and no
conversations on BN4. Part of this is the smaller 6 cylinder engine.
How many BN4 and BN6 still have the original cc or original engine?
Mine has been changed to a 3000, does this throw it back into the wanted
list?
Jerry
BN4
From "Reinhart Rosner" <reinhart.rosner at magnet.at>
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 00:56:37 +0100
Subject: Re: Triumph
Thank you all who responded to the question about the colours of my brothers
car (especially Gary).
My brother bought the book Gary suggested and is now deciding between three
colours (new white no.19, Triumph racing green no. 25 or royal blue no. 56).
But when he tried to buy these colours the shop could not find the numbers
mentioned and therefore not exactly determine the right colours. So I would
like to ask the list again: is there any cross-reference to todays colours
from the big companies (either car-producers or a company producing the
colours)?
Thank you in advance
Reinhart Rosner
55 AH 100
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: <Editorgary@aol.com>
An: <reinhart.rosner@magnet.at>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Gesendet: Montag, 30. Oktober 2000 18:54
Betreff: Re: Triumph
>
>
> In a message dated 10/29/00 8:04:04 PM, reinhart.rosner@magnet.at writes:
>
> << My brother is going to get a 1966 TR 4 A IRS on the wheels again. After
a
> lot of rust he is now in the position to decide he colour of the car. Is
> there any way to find out the right colours for the different parts
> including seats with piping, carpets, outside, .... ?
>
> Reinhart Rosner
> 55 AH 100 >>
>
> There are two "Original" books on Triumphs by Bill Piggott that provide
the
> info your friend needs. The first includes TR2, TR3, TR3A, and the second
> covers TR4,5,250, and 6. They list interior and exterior colors and
present
> a large number of color pictures. I think they are superior to the similar
> books on the Austin-Healey by Clausager, but then Piggott has had the
chance
> to revise and expand them, which hasn't happened yet with the Healey
books.
> You can order them from British Car Bookshop (800-520-8292), Classic
> Motorbooks, or Amazon.
>
> Cheers
> Gary Anderson
> editor, British Car Magazine
>
From Rohan Marr <rohan at marketocracy.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:55:49 -0800
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8 but what about BN4 and BN6
At 3:21 PM -0800 11/3/00, Jerry Costanzo wrote:
>This was an interesting thread talking about comfort, power, and the early
>character of the 4 cylinder cars. Only one person talked about BN6 and no
>conversations on BN4. Part of this is the smaller 6 cylinder engine.
>
>How many BN4 and BN6 still have the original cc or original engine?
>
>Mine has been changed to a 3000, does this throw it back into the wanted
>list?
>
>Jerry
>BN4
Interesting, I must agree my BN4 has a the Heritage certificate which
says the chassis is one of the early BN4 builds of Oct 1956 and it
has the 6 port head, tri-carb setup. I wonder also how many still
have the original engine components?
Seems many must have been modified when the more powerful latter
versions came out.
Rohan.
BN4
From Terry Blubaugh <tblubaugh at earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 16:28:58 -0800
Subject: Domestic Tin
Dare I raise a "domestic" question?
Does anyone on the Healey list have an address for a similar site re:
Pontiacs or Firebirds? Thanks.
Terry Blubaugh
'60 BT7
From "JISah102" <ah102 at home.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:27:33 -0500
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8 but what about BN4 and BN6
Jerry: I have a BN6 with a 3000 Block and Rudd-Speed tri-carbs and
Headers. Once I added the disc brakes, the only significant thing to
distinguish it as a 100-6 is the crease in the hood. But even before the
"upgrades", it was a joy to drive and admire.
I have a BN7 and a couple of Hundreds also.
My favorite is the one I am driving. Kinda like kids or grandkids, each
one is your favorite at one time or another. Love 'em all.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Costanzo <costan0@attglobal.net>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 6:21 PM
Subject: BN1 or BJ8 but what about BN4 and BN6
>
> This was an interesting thread talking about comfort, power, and the early
> character of the 4 cylinder cars. Only one person talked about BN6 and no
> conversations on BN4. Part of this is the smaller 6 cylinder engine.
>
> How many BN4 and BN6 still have the original cc or original engine?
>
> Mine has been changed to a 3000, does this throw it back into the wanted
> list?
>
> Jerry
> BN4
>
>
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:20:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: 1963 Rover 95 for sale?
Glen
What will you take for that gorgeous flowering tree?
DickB
---- you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I may have to part with my Rover 95 to raise some capital for a business
> venture. (Sob...)
>
> I've put up some pictures at:
>
> http://clubs.hemmings.com/rovercar/p4/p4.html
>
> I'm trying to gauge how much interest there might be in the car since nice
> Rovers sometimes go un wanted and unappreciated. The bumpers need to be
> rechromed since there is some pitting. There are a couple of dings and one
> spot on the roof that needs to be touched up, but it is completely original
> and in nice shape.
>
> In case you're wondering, I'll go back to work on my 3500S if I part with
> this car.
>
> A couple of local people have expressed interest in the past, and I've heard
> value estimates up to $20,000 from people who have seen the car, but I doubt
> that this falls within the "realistic" realm. I'd like to get at least
> $5,000 for the car and would be interested in hearing comments on what it
> might realistically be worth.
>
> I'm near Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
>
> Glen
>
> From: Glen Wilson @ Pennsylvania, USA
> Email: rstca@hemmings.com
> Rover Saloon Touring Club of America
> Website: http://clubs.hemmings.com/rovercar/rstca.html
>
>
>
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From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:29:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RE: Paint Specifications
Fred
If I didn't I should have. A few months ago I wrote a long "treatise" on
painting and materials and preparation and I tried to make a Huge Point of the
importance of gloves, long-sleeves, a hat and a Positive-Pressure Air system
pumping into a full suit and full face mask. I wouldn't even wet sand without
having a Fresh NIOSH-approved respirator on my face with Fresh cartidges.
(I am suffering from IPF - Ideopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis, a devastating lung
disease that is usually only acquired by auto bodyshop workers and car painters
- I earn my living in a Courtroom)
I don't think I would use Any catalyzed material - there are plenty of
excellent basecoats, clearcoats and primers that are just "ordinary dangerous"
<G>
Thanks for bringing this up again. It can't be stressed to often.
DickB
---- you wrote:
> Dick,
> you didn't comment on the safety of catalyst paints, if you value your
> respiratory system use a fresh air supply. Even though people believe that a
> charcoal canister face mask is acceptable it is not, and down the road you
> may pay a price.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dickb@cheerful.com [mailto:dickb@cheerful.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 2:35 PM
> To: Joseph Smathers; austin healey list
> Subject: Re: Paint Specifications
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> I hope Kent Lacy responds to you. He knows an awful lot aboout paint
> andpainting, but until then I'll chime in with my two cents and experience.
>
> I have a BT7 Tricarb and just consigned a Daimler SP250 to the junkyard
> after a serious rear-ender. I'll send you some photos of the SP250 (in five
> seperate emails if you don't mind since I haven't figured out how to attach
> the entire set yet <G>)
>
> I did the same for both cars, as follws: I prepped the bodies - metal in
> thecase of the BT7 and fibreglas in the case of theSP, as well as possible
> and then sealed them with a PPG sealer and primed with a PPG epoxy primer
> (KN36 I think) and then wet sanded using light coats of black marker mist
> soIcould see the highs and lows. (The KN36 is an eggshell yellow). After I
> was satisfied that I had a flat and fair substrate I sealed again and laid
> down a full covercoat of basecoat (color) and followed with clearcoat.
> Follow the directions for flash time and make sure you get total coverage of
> the colorcoat (basecoat). You can then out on several coats of the clear so
> you have a wet sanding surface and buffing surface.
>
> The advantage of this method isyou never sand down to the color coat and can
> lay down enough clearcoat so you can achieve a smooth (no orange peel) and
> glass-like surface on the clearcoat safely.
>
> This gives you good color and a durable shiny result.
>
> I would recommend that you pick your color from Don's book and then match it
> at your paint supplier in a modern formulation like DuPont, PPG, Glasserit,
> Sikkins, Martin Senour etc. That way you can always spot and repair and
> duplicate the color and materials. The modern paints are very forgiving and
> durable and repairable. I would say the same if you want to use lacquer
> rather than a uerethane or catalysed paint system.
>
> Finish with successive wet sandings starting with 600 and progressing
> through 1000, 1200, 1500 and then buff with Black Magic or a glaze material.
>
> Remember that the surface prep and the priming and sanding of the primer is
> key. Then the colorcoat and clear coat are a piece of cake.
>
> Good luck
>
> Dick B
>
>
> ---- you wrote:
> >
> > We had a nasty hit from a Scottish Lizzy while on the Austin Healey trip
> to
> > Great Britain in September. No injuries, but the right rear fender must
> be
> > replaced and the entire car repainted. I have the color specifications,
> > thanks to Don Pkiovnik's book on Austin Healey colors. As I am not well
> > versed in paint, would like some advice on type of paint, number of coats,
>
> > type of coating over the paint and any other recommendations.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Joe Smathers
> > 55 BN1 ( Wrecked )
> > 60 BT7
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
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From "Keith Pennell" <pennell at whro.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:54:51 -0500
Subject: Sebring Healey
Listers,
At the risk of sounding hoity-toity and getting flamed . . .
I just viewed a Sebring Healey for sale on eBay. 8000 miles. Looks
nice. But the person notes that he/she paid 29,500 and reserve "is a
lot less". Current bid is 6400.
Suppose there is a message here???
Keith Pennell
From "bjcap" <bjcap at frontiernet.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 22:31:12 -0500
Subject: re triumph Long
Reinhart,
The problem, which you already found out, is that the old formulas were
discontinued long ago. Modern paints require a totally new method of mixing.
there are only two ways to get the correct color you desire.
first is do the legwork, try and find by means of cross referencing original
BMC / BLVC codes. Many marques used '' corporate'' codings which means
healey MG Jaguar ect. used the same colors but with diff. names.
There are some books like original MGB or triumph which contain these charts
that have been crossed over to modern or close to modern systems. It is at
htis point that some of the crossed enamel/laquer codes can sometimes bring
up a cross to modern formulas.
However, when working with crossover forms a lot of techs will tell you the
only avail form will be a blendable shade. Which means it is off by a few
shades . Also most modern forms especially urethanes will not have the fine
poly (metallic) content that was prevalent in the earlier paints i.e. healey
blue or bronze metallic ( e-type Jag) .
The second is to have a known orig color sample scanned.
This will bring up the closest shade possible.
Ive found this to be sometimes unreliable but at least its a start. You then
take a known sample to your paint jobber and play the matching game till the
sample matches your orig.
It usually is a nitemare to get what you want, everybody tells you a
different story, there were so many factors in the orig painting process so
a little bit off is acceptable, unless your anal about it ( like me) sorry
I'm one of those original freaks nobody likes very much but I've painted
enough orig conditioned british cars to know what theyre supose to look
like.
I dont have the # with me but I will post it for you ( ppg's color library.
You cant tellthe gals your factory code and they will provide the (if your
lucky) crossover or the next closest code.
Also try the Triumph list, post your colors and see what comes up.
Good luck Carroll Phillips Top Down Restorations
BTW Royal blue is Jag Indigo blue '64 E Type
absolutely gorgeous ! Did a friends orig 67 4A
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 21:57:56 -0600
Subject: Re: Domestic Tin
Whoa, Terry, A man after my own heart. I own a 1979 Silver Anniversary Trans
Am and I'm anxiously awaiting a response to your question.
RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Blubaugh" <tblubaugh@earthlink.net>
To: "Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 6:28 PM
Subject: Domestic Tin
>
> Dare I raise a "domestic" question?
>
> Does anyone on the Healey list have an address for a similar site re:
> Pontiacs or Firebirds? Thanks.
>
> Terry Blubaugh
> '60 BT7
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 23:59:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: sending multiple images
#2
---- you wrote:
> Both came thru loud and clear, Dick. Reading you 5 X 5, or whatever. Looks
> like an English car fascia. Is that a digital photo?
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dickb@cheerful.com>
> To: "Mr. Finespanner" <MrFinespanner@prodigy.net>; "austin healey list"
> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 8:01 PM
> Subject: Re: sending multiple images
>
>
> > Let me know if you get this one
> >
> > ---- you wrote:
> > > I know just how you feel, Dick. The only way I can get the desired
> response
> > > from my machine at times is just keep bumbling until something happens.
> I
> > > always thought WinZip worked for all brands, but I could be mistaken
> there,
> > > too. By the way, I recall when you made the attachment to the list and
> I
> > > saw nothing at my end. I know at one time the list did not accept
> > > attachments; don't know if that's still the case. Sending links seems
> to be
> > > the way most folks are getting around that.
> > > Doug, 18G
> > >
>
>
>
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From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 00:00:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: sending multiple images
#3
---- you wrote:
> Both came thru loud and clear, Dick. Reading you 5 X 5, or whatever. Looks
> like an English car fascia. Is that a digital photo?
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dickb@cheerful.com>
> To: "Mr. Finespanner" <MrFinespanner@prodigy.net>; "austin healey list"
> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 8:01 PM
> Subject: Re: sending multiple images
>
>
> > Let me know if you get this one
> >
> > ---- you wrote:
> > > I know just how you feel, Dick. The only way I can get the desired
> response
> > > from my machine at times is just keep bumbling until something happens.
> I
> > > always thought WinZip worked for all brands, but I could be mistaken
> there,
> > > too. By the way, I recall when you made the attachment to the list and
> I
> > > saw nothing at my end. I know at one time the list did not accept
> > > attachments; don't know if that's still the case. Sending links seems
> to be
> > > the way most folks are getting around that.
> > > Doug, 18G
> > >
>
>
>
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From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 00:02:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: sending multiple images
#4
---- you wrote:
> Both came thru loud and clear, Dick. Reading you 5 X 5, or whatever. Looks
> like an English car fascia. Is that a digital photo?
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dickb@cheerful.com>
> To: "Mr. Finespanner" <MrFinespanner@prodigy.net>; "austin healey list"
> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 8:01 PM
> Subject: Re: sending multiple images
>
>
> > Let me know if you get this one
> >
> > ---- you wrote:
> > > I know just how you feel, Dick. The only way I can get the desired
> response
> > > from my machine at times is just keep bumbling until something happens.
> I
> > > always thought WinZip worked for all brands, but I could be mistaken
> there,
> > > too. By the way, I recall when you made the attachment to the list and
> I
> > > saw nothing at my end. I know at one time the list did not accept
> > > attachments; don't know if that's still the case. Sending links seems
> to be
> > > the way most folks are getting around that.
> > > Doug, 18G
> > >
>
>
>
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From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 00:03:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: sending multiple images
And lastly #5
---- you wrote:
> Both came thru loud and clear, Dick. Reading you 5 X 5, or whatever. Looks
> like an English car fascia. Is that a digital photo?
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dickb@cheerful.com>
> To: "Mr. Finespanner" <MrFinespanner@prodigy.net>; "austin healey list"
> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 8:01 PM
> Subject: Re: sending multiple images
>
>
> > Let me know if you get this one
> >
> > ---- you wrote:
> > > I know just how you feel, Dick. The only way I can get the desired
> response
> > > from my machine at times is just keep bumbling until something happens.
> I
> > > always thought WinZip worked for all brands, but I could be mistaken
> there,
> > > too. By the way, I recall when you made the attachment to the list and
> I
> > > saw nothing at my end. I know at one time the list did not accept
> > > attachments; don't know if that's still the case. Sending links seems
> to be
> > > the way most folks are getting around that.
> > > Doug, 18G
> > >
>
>
>
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From Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 14:14:07 +0000
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8 but what about BN4 and BN6
Jerry,
It was quite a common thing to upgrade to 29D series engines...or to put an
Austin Westminster engine in if not! I have no idea what percentage were fitted
with a later engine but I would take a guess at maybe 10 - 15%.
The works rally team itself was not above sticking a 29D in a BN4 and calling it
a 3000 as is well documented!
Peter Dzwig
Jerry Costanzo wrote:
> This was an interesting thread talking about comfort, power, and the early
> character of the 4 cylinder cars. Only one person talked about BN6 and no
> conversations on BN4. Part of this is the smaller 6 cylinder engine.
>
> How many BN4 and BN6 still have the original cc or original engine?
>
> Mine has been changed to a 3000, does this throw it back into the wanted
> list?
>
> Jerry
> BN4
From Bill Katz <bkatz at handsonresearch.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:08:17 -0800
Subject: Re: Domestic Tin
http://www.f-body.org/lists.cfm
---------------------
At 04:28 PM 11/3/2000 , you wrote:
>Dare I raise a "domestic" question?
>
>Does anyone on the Healey list have an address for a similar site re:
>Pontiacs or Firebirds? Thanks.
>
>Terry Blubaugh
>'60 BT7
From "Mark Fawcett" <fawcett1 at mediaone.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 10:58:07 -0800
Subject: Oil drain tubes
Hi all,
When I took the 6 cyl Healey engine apart there were no drain tubes
installed (part #'s AEC853 and 1K141). I would like to install these
but do not appear to be available from the normal sources. How
necessary are these? There purpose seems to be to get the oil into
the sump without being picked up by the rotating crankshaft. Is this
correct? I can probably make them, but I'm not sure of the their
length. Is there a source that would have these? Or if anyone has
spares laying about that would be interested in parting with them,
contact me. Thanks in advance,
Mark Fawcett
60 BT7
From Krazy Kiwi <magicare at home.com>
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 15:10:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Oil drain tubes
Mark,
We have good used ones in stock.
Where are you and I will quote including shipping.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
www.precisionsportscar.com
Mark Fawcett wrote:
> Hi all,
> When I took the 6 cyl Healey engine apart there were no drain tubes
> installed (part #'s AEC853 and 1K141). I would like to install these
> but do not appear to be available from the normal sources. How
> necessary are these? There purpose seems to be to get the oil into
> the sump without being picked up by the rotating crankshaft. Is this
> correct? I can probably make them, but I'm not sure of the their
> length. Is there a source that would have these? Or if anyone has
> spares laying about that would be interested in parting with them,
> contact me. Thanks in advance,
> Mark Fawcett
> 60 BT7
From "farmerrd" <farmerrd at cbcast.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:12:00 -0600
Subject: Getrag transmission
Friends...I am thinking of installing "Getrag" transmission in my BJ8. Do any
of you use this transmission? I would be very much interested in any useful
comments about the transmission. Since it is expensive, I don't want to
proceed without as much information as possible. Thank you! RD
From "Sam Marble" <samncyna at netzero.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:08:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Getrag transmission
RD
Getrag 5 speed transmissions are found in Jensen Healeys from late 74
on plus Jensen GT's. They were also used in BMW 2002's.
The 5 speed in our 75 Jensen Healey has been very reliable and is a
distinct advantage over the earlier 4 speeds for highway driving.
I haven't heard of anyone installing one in a big Healey - the most
common retrofit is from a Totota Supra which I understand is quite
successful.
Sam
----- Original Message -----
From: farmerrd <farmerrd@cbcast.com>
To: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 4:12 PM
Subject: Getrag transmission
>
> Friends...I am thinking of installing "Getrag" transmission in my
BJ8. Do any
> of you use this transmission? I would be very much interested in
any useful
> comments about the transmission. Since it is expensive, I don't
want to
> proceed without as much information as possible. Thank you! RD
>
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From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:23:59 EST
Subject: Re: Getrag transmission
In a message dated 11/05/2000 3:13:08 PM Central Standard Time,
farmerrd@cbcast.com writes:
<<> ince it is expensive>>
>
First, THAT "should/would" qualify as you basic UNDERSTATEMENT!!!!
Second, IMHO, "RD" (don't even have a "real name"). Are you NUTS ?? Fix what
you have and DRIVE it.
Cheers..............
Ed
PS: Personally, rather buy a NICE $20K Healey then spend half of that for a
Kraut tranny, etc..
PPS: I am Kraut so I can use word. (So Rev. Jackson, take a hike!!)
PPPS: BUT, first, I am just a plain ole 'Merican
From "Chris van Brummen" <chrisvanbrummen at houston.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:37:26 -0600
Subject: Austin-Healey Wanted
Hi there liste(ner)rs
Graham Robinon is a friend of mine who would dearly love to own a BJ8/BJ7 in
Good condition for when he returns to the UK. He will pay a fair price and I
suggest that any of you out there who think they have a "fair car" - no
bullshit mind - (as his intereted representitive will spot the shite from
the real stuff in a nanosecond) should drop me or him an email if you want
to sell. Mind you no projects, no bondo laden bodge jobs and and a genuine
sale will get a fair price. Tis the day of a realistic car for a realistic
price. We are located n Houston Texas.
Cheerio toodle pip etc.,and I suppose go get em aggies/longhorns wherever
the alliegece lies.
Most extremleey grateful for your indulgence,
Chris van Brummen / Graham Robbinson
From HLYDOC at aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:14:30 EST
Subject: Re: Getrag transmission
I only have one question
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From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 07:16:32 -0800
Subject: RE: BN1 or BJ8?
Don't laugh. I actually have a 2 seat BT7! It's amazing what happens to
these cars over the years.
Jonathan Lane
-----Original Message-----
From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 3:33 PM
To: Healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
Thought you all would get a kick out of the following ad, which I quote
carefully and verbatim, from the latest issue of Sports Car Market Magazine:
"59 100-6 BN4, 2-seater, British racing green, frame-off total restoration
done by award winning specialist. $23,500 Jim Haines 330-864-8141 OH. "
Very rare, those two-seat BN4s! Especially in British racing green. Wonder
what awards this "specialist" has won? Reminds me of the references on "Car
Talk" to mechanics who "specialize in all brands of cars, foreign and
domestic."
Cheers
Gary
From Drtrite at aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:46:18 EST
Subject: Re: BN1/BJ8-JH?
The Rodney Dangerfield of the Healeys.
All this talk about the Healey's. What about the Jensen Healey, a short
association of the Healeys with this car that leaks oil like a good Healey
should. Yes, the Spitfire on steroids, it doesn't turn many heads or get the
attention a big Healey does but it sure is a great touring car. And when it
comes to handling the JH wins hands down. And yes, they rust out just like
the other Healeys!!
Leaving Thursday to put another 2000 miles on the Grape.
Don
NTAHC
A bunch of Healeys
From "John Rowe" <jarowe at connect.comdek.net.au>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:03:21 +0800
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
There is actually a 2 seater BT7 #101 works rally car sitting in the British
Heritage Museum with engine 26/DR/UH/113. Seen the chassis plate myself.
Regards
John Rowe
Perth
Western Australia
BT7 nearing completion
----- Original Message -----
From: Lane, Jonathan <lanej@mossmotors.com>
To: <Editorgary@aol.com>; <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 11:16 PM
Subject: RE: BN1 or BJ8?
>
> Don't laugh. I actually have a 2 seat BT7! It's amazing what happens to
> these cars over the years.
>
> Jonathan Lane
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 3:33 PM
> To: Healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
>
>
>
> Thought you all would get a kick out of the following ad, which I quote
> carefully and verbatim, from the latest issue of Sports Car Market
Magazine:
>
> "59 100-6 BN4, 2-seater, British racing green, frame-off total restoration
> done by award winning specialist. $23,500 Jim Haines 330-864-8141 OH. "
>
> Very rare, those two-seat BN4s! Especially in British racing green.
Wonder
> what awards this "specialist" has won? Reminds me of the references on
"Car
>
> Talk" to mechanics who "specialize in all brands of cars, foreign and
> domestic."
> Cheers
> Gary
From JH67HEALEY at aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:06:18 EST
Subject: Re: BN1/BJ8-JH?
The Healey Boat is the culmination of Healey development. They do not rust,
and although they do leak oil, this is a carefully engineered feature that is
called the "onboard wood preservation system." In the handling department
they are unsurpassed, since as the Healey Sportsboat Owners Manual states
that they can be turned full circle at full throttle. This summer John
Healey demonstrated this feature in at 16 foot Healey Sportsboat. They were
true roadsters, not being fitted with a top. They seat five to six in
comfort, and the relaxed touring is unsurpassed. Overheating is not a
problem, and the evaporative cooling air conditioning system is immediately
at hand. Visibility is unmatched, with no blind spots through 360 degrees of
view. The ride is very comfortable, utilizing the hydro-displacement
principle. Even thought the Healey boats were produced fairly early in the
Healey car timeline, they clearly demonstrated advanced engineering and
execution compared to the wonderful cars.
John Hunt
John May
Nash Healeys, Healey Boats, BT7's, BN7, BJ8's, Jensen Healeys
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:30:38 -0600
Subject: Re: BN1/BJ8-JH?
Incorporate the two and what would we have? An "Amphi-Healey". And with all
the strange and terrible things that have been done to Healeys over the
years it wouldn't surprise me if one actually existed.
RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: <JH67HEALEY@aol.com>
To: <Drtrite@aol.com>; <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: BN1/BJ8-JH?
>
> The Healey Boat is the culmination of Healey development. They do not
rust,
> and although they do leak oil, this is a carefully engineered feature that
is
> called the "onboard wood preservation system." In the handling department
> they are unsurpassed, since as the Healey Sportsboat Owners Manual states
> that they can be turned full circle at full throttle. This summer John
> Healey demonstrated this feature in at 16 foot Healey Sportsboat. They
were
> true roadsters, not being fitted with a top. They seat five to six in
> comfort, and the relaxed touring is unsurpassed. Overheating is not a
> problem, and the evaporative cooling air conditioning system is
immediately
> at hand. Visibility is unmatched, with no blind spots through 360 degrees
of
> view. The ride is very comfortable, utilizing the hydro-displacement
> principle. Even thought the Healey boats were produced fairly early in
the
> Healey car timeline, they clearly demonstrated advanced engineering and
> execution compared to the wonderful cars.
>
> John Hunt
> John May
> Nash Healeys, Healey Boats, BT7's, BN7, BJ8's, Jensen Healeys
From "R. C. Brown" <rcbrown at lucent.com>
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 11:12:59 -0600
Subject: Re: BN1/BJ8-JH?
Actually, my daughter tried it a couple of years ago and found that
the BT7 does not float!!
ray feehan wrote:
>
> Incorporate the two and what would we have? An "Amphi-Healey". And with all
> the strange and terrible things that have been done to Healeys over the
> years it wouldn't surprise me if one actually existed.
> RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <JH67HEALEY@aol.com>
> To: <Drtrite@aol.com>; <Healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 10:06 AM
> Subject: Re: BN1/BJ8-JH?
>
> >
> > The Healey Boat is the culmination of Healey development. They do not
> rust,
> > and although they do leak oil, this is a carefully engineered feature that
> is
> > called the "onboard wood preservation system." In the handling department
> > they are unsurpassed, since as the Healey Sportsboat Owners Manual states
> > that they can be turned full circle at full throttle. This summer John
> > Healey demonstrated this feature in at 16 foot Healey Sportsboat. They
> were
> > true roadsters, not being fitted with a top. They seat five to six in
> > comfort, and the relaxed touring is unsurpassed. Overheating is not a
> > problem, and the evaporative cooling air conditioning system is
> immediately
> > at hand. Visibility is unmatched, with no blind spots through 360 degrees
> of
> > view. The ride is very comfortable, utilizing the hydro-displacement
> > principle. Even thought the Healey boats were produced fairly early in
> the
> > Healey car timeline, they clearly demonstrated advanced engineering and
> > execution compared to the wonderful cars.
> >
> > John Hunt
> > John May
> > Nash Healeys, Healey Boats, BT7's, BN7, BJ8's, Jensen Healeys
From BN4L at aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:19:00 EST
Subject: Re: Getrag transmission
In a message dated 11/5/2000 1:12:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,
farmerrd@cbcast.com writes:
<< Friends...I am thinking of installing "Getrag" transmission in my BJ8. Do
any
of you use this transmission? I would be very much interested in any useful
comments about the transmission. Since it is expensive, I don't want to
proceed without as much information as possible. Thank you! RD
>>
The new Lincoln LS (Motor Trend Car of the Year 2000) uses this tranny in the
6 cylinder model. FYI
Art Hill
Escondido, CA
'58 100-6 BN4 A-H "Mille Miglia"
'66 TR6R Triumph Tiger
'96 R1100RT BMW
'00 Lincoln LS
From "Merchant, Adnan" <Adnan.Merchant at mkg.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:27:30 -0600
Subject: RE: Getrag transmission
Hi,
On the subject of Getrag transmissions, I'll share my $.02 on what I've
experienced so far:
I have a Getrag 260/6 5-speed manual gearbox in my daily driver and am now
on my third unit. The original one developed strange slider problems at
60k miles and at 82k I'd had enough. Put in a brand new one and found that
it made horrendous clattering noises that were determined to be internal
clearance problems.
Unit was replaced again with a new one, and it makes similar noises,
although not as loud. May imply a design problem throughout.
Soooo, my vote would be to stick with something more, um, predictable, like
a Toyota gearbox. That is, if you have made up your mind to not use the
original.
Regards,
Adnan
From John Loftus <loftusdesign at home.com>
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:41:39 -0800
Subject: wired at both ends
Hi all,
A while back I removed the adjustable steering wheel and Control Head
(Trafficator?) by disconnecting the wires at the front and pulling the
turn signal/horn harness through the Stator Tube. Reassembly was a bear
because the P.O. had spliced the harness which added to the diameter of
the wire bundle but I was able to manage it.
Now, I need to remove the steering wheel again to make some crack
repairs. I would like to remove the control head and disconnect the
wires at that end but remember reading that caution must be used because
parts can go flying. This will also be a good time to replace the
spliced harness so at any rate I need to get at the control head
connectors. Any advise on the proper procedure is appreciated.
(Sorry to bother the list with subjects that have been covered before
but it appears that the archives are *still* down at listquest.)
Regards,
John Loftus
BJ7
From John Loftus <loftusdesign at home.com>
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 13:01:27 -0800
Subject: Most Healeys Contest
1. Who has the largest collection of running Austin Healeys?
2. Who has the largest collection of complete but non-running Austin
Healeys?
Rules:
A. Winning claims will need to be substantiated with pictures and/or
reliable witnesses.
B. Running Austin Healey means the car will start NOW and can be safely
driven at day and night.
C. Non-running Austin Healey means all the parts are there, it just
doesn't run or is being restored. Parted out cars do not count.
D. Must all be owned by the same person.
E. May need a special category for Private, Business and Museum so
please specify.
Prize: bragging rights
Cheers,
John Loftus - with only one so far...
From WilKo at aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:04:19 EST
Subject: Re: wired at both ends
In a message dated 11/6/00 12:48:13 PM, loftusdesign@home.com writes:
<< A while back I removed the adjustable steering wheel and Control Head
(Trafficator?) by disconnecting the wires at the front and pulling the
turn signal/horn harness through the Stator Tube. Reassembly was a bear
because the P.O. had spliced the harness which added to the diameter of
the wire bundle but I was able to manage it. >>
There are no parts to go flying if you only loosen the nut at the steering
box and remove the tube and all. The Trafficator switch assembly should noy
be opened for this operation.
Very simple job.
Good luck,
Rick
San Diego
From "Richard E. Pratt" <prattri at email.msn.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:41:01 -0500
Subject: RE: wired at both ends
John,
I have just finished reinstalling my steering wheel after fitting a nice
walnut rim to my old BJ8 wheel. If you remove the chrome ring by prying up
with a thin blade, the screws will be visible to separate the parts. When
you do separate it, the springs, roller and switch parts could go flying.
Before you remove the screws, you should unscrew the metal cam and stem from
the back side by lifting the clip you will see if you look very carefully.
Than rotate the clip plate to expose the three screws holding the stem and
cam to the masonite parts. If I am not clear, please let me know and I will
try to be more precise.
Richard Pratt
65 BJ8
Cincinnati, OH
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-healeys@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-healeys@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of John Loftus
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 3:42 PM
> To: 'healeys@autox.team.net'
> Subject: wired at both ends
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> A while back I removed the adjustable steering wheel and Control Head
> (Trafficator?) by disconnecting the wires at the front and pulling the
> turn signal/horn harness through the Stator Tube. Reassembly was a bear
> because the P.O. had spliced the harness which added to the diameter of
> the wire bundle but I was able to manage it.
>
> Now, I need to remove the steering wheel again to make some crack
> repairs. I would like to remove the control head and disconnect the
> wires at that end but remember reading that caution must be used because
> parts can go flying. This will also be a good time to replace the
> spliced harness so at any rate I need to get at the control head
> connectors. Any advise on the proper procedure is appreciated.
>
> (Sorry to bother the list with subjects that have been covered before
> but it appears that the archives are *still* down at listquest.)
>
> Regards,
> John Loftus
> BJ7
From CAWS52803 at aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:10:19 EST
Subject: Re: Most Healeys Contest
Hi John,
Thanks for starting an interesting string.
I would never lay claim to the most, BUT at one time I did have 3 Bugeyes, 1
Squarebody Sprite, 3 Roadsters (100-Six, 2 early 3000s) and one Convertible
(BJ8).
Variety is the spice of life!
Rudy Streng
From "Steve Byers" <byers at cconnect.net>
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:39:55 -0500
Subject: Re: wired at both ends
Hi, John --
If you're going to replace the steering column harness, then you can clip
the wires at the steering box end. Before pulling the wires through the
column, tape a string to the end of them to use as an aid to pull the new
harness back through the column.
Pull the control head out and look at the back of it. You will see what
looks like a thin steel disc with three holes in a triangular patter and a
tang on its outer edge. Pry up the tang a bit and you can rotate the disc
until the three holes match up with three screw heads underneath. Now, you
can remove the three screws to separate the two halves of the control head
to expose the ends of the wires. You should mark the relative positions of
the two halves of the control head secured by the three screws before
removing the screws, otherwise it's possible to get them rotated so that
when you put it all back together, the turn signal switch is not straight
up. The half of the control head with the short stator tube only goes into
the column in one position, while the half with the horn button can be
attached to the other half in any of three positions, only one of them
correct (ask me how I know).
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
HBJ7L/20111
BJ8 Registry
Havelock, NC USA
-----Original Message-----
From: John Loftus <loftusdesign@home.com>
To: 'healeys@autox.team.net' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, November 06, 2000 4:11 PM
Subject: wired at both ends
>
>Hi all,
>
>A while back I removed the adjustable steering wheel and Control Head
>(Trafficator?) by disconnecting the wires at the front and pulling the
>turn signal/horn harness through the Stator Tube. Reassembly was a bear
>because the P.O. had spliced the harness which added to the diameter of
>the wire bundle but I was able to manage it.
>
>Now, I need to remove the steering wheel again to make some crack
>repairs. I would like to remove the control head and disconnect the
>wires at that end but remember reading that caution must be used because
>parts can go flying. This will also be a good time to replace the
>spliced harness so at any rate I need to get at the control head
>connectors. Any advise on the proper procedure is appreciated.
>
>(Sorry to bother the list with subjects that have been covered before
>but it appears that the archives are *still* down at listquest.)
>
>Regards,
>John Loftus
>BJ7
From "Rich C" <rich.chrysler at sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:42:33 -0500
Subject: Re: BN1/BJ8-JH?
C'mon guys,
The original question was a prospective buyer who had thought things through
and had already narrowed his decision to two models only; the BN1 and the
BJ8. Period.
We could go on forever on why any particular model is your favorite. What
about this one....what about that one......geesh!
That is not what was asked.
Sometimes these threads really get off course
Rich Chrysler
snip
> The Rodney Dangerfield of the Healeys.
>
> All this talk about the Healey's. What about the Jensen Healey, a short
> association of the Healeys with this car that leaks oil like a good Healey
> should. Yes, the Spitfire on steroids, it doesn't turn many heads or get
the
> attention a big Healey does but it sure is a great touring car. And when
it
> comes to handling the JH wins hands down. And yes, they rust out just like
> the other Healeys!!
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:58:43 EST
Subject: Re: wired at both ends
In a message dated 11/6/00 12:48:02 PM, loftusdesign@home.com writes:
<< . I would like to remove the control head and disconnect the
wires at that end but remember reading that caution must be used because
parts can go flying. This will also be a good time to replace the
spliced harness so at any rate I need to get at the control head
connectors. Any advise on the proper procedure is appreciated. >>
It's pretty easy to do if you already know how to get the control head up and
out of the stator tube. Once you get it to that point -- the trick to
disconnecting the wires is to move the turn signal to the side where you're
taking off the wire -- that way the signal lever inside is up against the
internal screw, holding it in place. Then you can take the nut off the end,
take off the wire, and put the nut back on to retain the internal screw in
place. Same thing for the middle and other side screw. The bottom screw is
no problem, since you can see the screw head on that one.
Cheers
Gary Anderson
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:04:22 EST
Subject: Fwd: BN1 or BJ8?
Thought the list might be interested in Graham Robson's elaboration on the
info regarding the works rally Healey in the Gaydon museum.
Cheers
Gary Anderson
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Subject: Fwd: BN1 or BJ8?
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Gary,
I think my memory on this rally car is relatively strong. It is an
ex-Abingdon 'works' car, many years later last driven in anger by Philip
Young, with Unipart sponsorship, in a Himalayan Rally of the mid-1980s. It
now carries the identity of 2754 DK.
Digging into Peter Browning's book 'THE WORKS BIG HEALEYS', I see that
HBT7-101 was originally registered in 1959 as a Healey 3000 Mk I, and that
it originally had the engine number 26/DR/UH/113. Its registration number
was SJB 471, its best claim to fame as a 'works' car being 3rd Overall in
the 1960 RAC rally of 1960 (Morley Twins driving).
After it had been sold off, and gone through several private owners,
Unipart bought it back, re-registered it 2754 DK, Philip drove it in
India, and that is the car on display at Gaydon.
As I recall, until 1964 Abingdon only ran 2-seater 'works' 3000s (I
believe, but I can't prove it, that they only homologated the 2-seater car)
- and certainly this is the only BT7 listed in Browning's book..
So why was a BN7 built up with a BT7 number ? Search me - but my educated
guess, probably accurate in this case, is that the car originally was a
BT7, was an early press/demonstrator car based at Abingdon, and was later
handed over to the 'works' competitions department for their use. They
probably converted it to 2-seater spec, to accord with three other BN7s
(SMO 744/745/746) which were being used at the same time.
It's significant that it might have been an early car, which implies that
it was built in the summer of 1959, but that its first rally as a 'works'
rally car was in May 1960.
Will you buy that ?
BTW - Michelotti pix arrivaed back here today. Many thanks.
Best Regards,
GRAHAM ROBSON
From Howard Young <hoyo at bellsouth.net>
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:09:30 -0600
Subject: Re: Most Healeys Contest
you could also have a who has owned the most healeys in a lifetime(theirs)
current and former , you know, like ex-wives!
let me know when we get to the MGB,MGC part of the competition, and i'd
like to run in the Unlimited Class, drivers, restorers, parts-cars, and
parted out cars!!! As proud
owner of a 1969 Simca model 1118,36k miles ,stolen from my grandfather's
farm
50 miles in the swamps and sold by crackheads for scrap!!
sign me: fool for a pretty girl,i
mean,deal.......................HoYo
John Loftus wrote:
> 1. Who has the largest collection of running Austin Healeys?
>
> 2. Who has the largest collection of complete but non-running Austin
> Healeys?
>
> Rules:
>
> A. Winning claims will need to be substantiated with pictures and/or
> reliable witnesses.
>
> B. Running Austin Healey means the car will start NOW and can be safely
> driven at day and night.
>
> C. Non-running Austin Healey means all the parts are there, it just
> doesn't run or is being restored. Parted out cars do not count.
>
> D. Must all be owned by the same person.
>
> E. May need a special category for Private, Business and Museum so
> please specify.
>
> Prize: bragging rights
>
> Cheers,
> John Loftus - with only one so far...
From Howard Young <hoyo at bellsouth.net>
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:21:26 -0600
Subject: Re: BN1/BJ8-JH?
Uh, how 'bout one that all ready runs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HoYo
Rich C wrote:
> C'mon guys,
> The original question was a prospective buyer who had thought things through
> and had already narrowed his decision to two models only; the BN1 and the
> BJ8. Period.
> We could go on forever on why any particular model is your favorite. What
> about this one....what about that one......geesh!
> That is not what was asked.
> Sometimes these threads really get off course
> Rich Chrysler
> snip
> > The Rodney Dangerfield of the Healeys.
> >
> > All this talk about the Healey's. What about the Jensen Healey, a short
> > association of the Healeys with this car that leaks oil like a good Healey
> > should. Yes, the Spitfire on steroids, it doesn't turn many heads or get
> the
> > attention a big Healey does but it sure is a great touring car. And when
> it
> > comes to handling the JH wins hands down. And yes, they rust out just like
> > the other Healeys!!
From "Quinn, Patrick" <Patrick.QUINN at det.nsw.edu.au>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:02:00 +1100
Subject: Himalayan Rally & Phillip Young
Greetings
Phillip Young is an interesting guy who has a strong leaning towards
Austin-Healeys. For some years he tried without success to establish a
classic
car magazine in the UK. One of the titles was called Sporting Car and always
featured Austin-Healeys somewhere between its covers. Sadly it was destined
for failure as it didn't last.
Of late Phillip has been the organiser of a number of long distance classic
car rallies including the 1997 Peking to Paris.
The Himalayan Rally was featured fairly heavily in his magazine at the time.
The rally itself wasn't just restricted to classic cars and was open to
modern
rally cars as well. Very few of the roads on the rally were on flat ground
and
we all know how big Healeys love hills. Many a driver of the modern rally
cars
of the time were severely embarrassed when they were passed by the 25 year
old+ Big Healey with its exhaust growl reverberating across the remote
valleys
and hills of the Himalayas.
There are some magic photos of the AH in the event that will make the hairs
on
the back of neck stand up.
Lovely stuff
Patrick Quinn
Sydney, Australia
ps. If you're interested K & R Models make a nice 1:43 metal model kit of
the
car.
1947 Healey Duncan Saloon
1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1
>>> Editorgary@aol.com 7/11/00 11:04:22 >>>
Thought the list might be interested in Graham Robson's elaboration on the
info regarding the works rally Healey in the Gaydon museum.
Cheers
Gary Anderson
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From: Graham Robson <GrahamRobson@compuserve.com>
Subject: Fwd: BN1 or BJ8?
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Gary,
I think my memory on this rally car is relatively strong. It is an
ex-Abingdon 'works' car, many years later last driven in anger by Philip
Young, with Unipart sponsorship, in a Himalayan Rally of the mid-1980s. It
now carries the identity of 2754 DK.
Digging into Peter Browning's book 'THE WORKS BIG HEALEYS', I see that
HBT7-101 was originally registered in 1959 as a Healey 3000 Mk I, and that
it originally had the engine number 26/DR/UH/113. Its registration number
was SJB 471, its best claim to fame as a 'works' car being 3rd Overall in
the 1960 RAC rally of 1960 (Morley Twins driving).
After it had been sold off, and gone through several private owners,
Unipart bought it back, re-registered it 2754 DK, Philip drove it in
India, and that is the car on display at Gaydon.
As I recall, until 1964 Abingdon only ran 2-seater 'works' 3000s (I
believe, but I can't prove it, that they only homologated the 2-seater car)
- and certainly this is the only BT7 listed in Browning's book..
So why was a BN7 built up with a BT7 number ? Search me - but my educated
guess, probably accurate in this case, is that the car originally was a
BT7, was an early press/demonstrator car based at Abingdon, and was later
handed over to the 'works' competitions department for their use. They
probably converted it to 2-seater spec, to accord with three other BN7s
(SMO 744/745/746) which were being used at the same time.
It's significant that it might have been an early car, which implies that
it was built in the summer of 1959, but that its first rally as a 'works'
rally car was in May 1960.
Will you buy that ?
BTW - Michelotti pix arrivaed back here today. Many thanks.
Best Regards,
GRAHAM ROBSON
From James B Dalglish <leaker at exit109.com>
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 20:21:12 -0500
Subject: election day
Let's all get out there and vote!
Jim Dalglish
BT7, 1960
From Howard Young <hoyo at bellsouth.net>
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 19:35:33 -0600
Subject: Re: election day
i vote for Donald Mitchell Healey as Sec./Dept. o'
Trans.(posthumously)!!!!!
HoYo
James B Dalglish wrote:
> Let's all get out there and vote!
>
> Jim Dalglish
> BT7, 1960
From Dean Caccavo <healeybn7 at yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:47:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Himalayan (Unipart)Rally Car
Last year I was fortunate to visit Gaydon twice while
on business in the UK. I have written before that I
believe that this is one of the best treasures for the
Healey, Mini, Rover, MG car nut. They have quite a
collection of land speed record MGs. At Gaydon access
to the cars is not behind a bank rope and should be on
everyones museum list. You can poke your head inside
a winning Monte Carlo Mini or crawl under the first
Range Rover.
I was so excited to see the Unipart car that I asked
to open the hood and sit inside. With a little Q&A to
test my authenticity they agreed. It is quite an
experience just to sit in one of these historic rally
cars and imagine what it was like to scream up
mountian roads without safety rails.
I will search my photo archive tonight and post
pictures for those interested. I took several shots of
the interior and engine compartment.
Dean
BN7
> It is an
> ex-Abingdon 'works' car, many years later last
> driven in anger by Philip
> Young, with Unipart sponsorship, in a Himalayan
> Rally of the mid-1980s. It
> now carries the identity of 2754 DK.
__________________________________________________
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From JH67HEALEY at aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:04:21 EST
Subject: Re: BN1/BJ8-JH?
OK, I'll stick to BJ-8, and BN-7, and 53 Nash Healey LeMans Coupe, and the
Healey Boat.....John Hunt
From "John W. Cope" <naku at wayxcable.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:04:56 -0500
Subject: Scuttle Shake
sometime back their was a thread on the list regarding scuttle shake with a
link to a site that had detailed photos of a repair. Does anyone remember the
link? Any other information regarding the cause and correction of "scuttle
shake" would be appreciated.
John Cope
BT7 in Waycross, GA
From JH67HEALEY at aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:05:49 EST
Subject: Re: BN1/BJ8-JH?
Of all the Healeys I have hands down is the 62 BN-7 TriCarb....John S Hunt
From MBran89793 at aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:27:09 EST
Subject: Check out Scuttle Shake
< <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/trmgafun/scuttle.html";><Click here: Scuttle
Shake</A>
Hi John-
The hyper link will take you right to the information you requested.
Save it in your favorites for future reference if you are interested.
Marion S. Brantley, Jr.
Pres. Tampa Bay Austin-Healey Club
Concours Comm. Chm. Judges & Judging
From dyaarl anderson <dyaarl at mediaone.net>
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 21:42:49 -0500
Subject: looking for John
John Cope in Waycross Ga. would you contact me off line ?
Cheers Dyaarl
BN4
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had a name of smime.p7s]
From "Patrick QUINN" <QUINNP at det.nsw.edu.au>
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 15:48:17 +1100
Subject: Technical Gearbox Stuff
Greetings
A friend (Eric) is in the business of working on British cars and is having a
little difficulty with the gearboxes of two competition Austin-Healeys that he
is charged with. He asked if I could send out a plea with the hope that some of
us may have experienced a similar problem and overcome it.
Both cars are very quick 3000s and use centre shift gearboxes complete with
straight cut gears purchased from two different sources in different countries.
The problem is that they jump out of top gear when you lift off the accelerator
(Oz for gas pedal). This only happens when the cars are motoring very quickly
at around 180 to 200 kph which can be rather disconcerting when you are coming
up to a quick corner or bend.
Eric tells me that he has tried the following without success:-
1. Replaced the original detent springs with stronger units.
2. Ground the selector rails so that the detent balls sit deeper within the
rods.
3. Correctly lined up the crankshaft and gearbox. (Not an easy task I'm told)
4. Replaced 3rd/4th sliding hub and gear.
5. Ensured that the gears were selecting completely.
6. Machined greater clearance between the outer rings of the 3rd/4th sliding
hub and cluster gear/laygear when in forth gear.
Any ideas?
I'll published the final results to the list.
Regards
Patrick Quinn
Sydney, Australia
From "Don Yarber" <dyarber at dynasty.net>
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:57:00 -0600
Subject: BN7 Two seat Tri Carb
I agree with John Hunt.
Don
BN7
From "John J. Black" <helejohn at neteze.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:30:08 -0800
Subject: RE: Technical Gearbox Stuff
Hi Patrick
>From what you say your friend has tried already I realize that we are
dealing with straight cut synchromesh gear set and not the dog drive set up
that he may have found to be a better investment. The synchromesh works in
exactly the same way as the stock system. The straight cut gears are
providing the extra strength required to handle to power but what is
happening is that the synchro are not! He needs to check the small dog
engagement teeth on each gear, these should be in the shape of a house gable
end, if these teeth are rounded off and stubby the gears will be thrown back
out of mesh when under load. Teh only fix is to replace the gears.
This is a common problem with this type of gear set as it is nothing but a
compromise between the full race dog box and the full synchromesh system
employed in the standard gearbox.
The source of the gears does not matter as I think you will find that they
all come from the same supplier.
How do I know this, well they supply me with them as well!
I hope this helps.
Regards
John J Black
Waterloo Drivetrain Systems
http://www.waterloo-dtr.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-healeys@autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-healeys@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Patrick QUINN
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 8:48 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Technical Gearbox Stuff
Greetings
A friend (Eric) is in the business of working on British cars and is having
a little difficulty with the gearboxes of two competition Austin-Healeys
that he is charged with. He asked if I could send out a plea with the hope
that some of us may have experienced a similar problem and overcome it.
Both cars are very quick 3000s and use centre shift gearboxes complete with
straight cut gears purchased from two different sources in different
countries.
The problem is that they jump out of top gear when you lift off the
accelerator (Oz for gas pedal). This only happens when the cars are motoring
very quickly at around 180 to 200 kph which can be rather disconcerting when
you are coming up to a quick corner or bend.
Eric tells me that he has tried the following without success:-
1. Replaced the original detent springs with stronger units.
2. Ground the selector rails so that the detent balls sit deeper within the
rods.
3. Correctly lined up the crankshaft and gearbox. (Not an easy task I'm
told)
4. Replaced 3rd/4th sliding hub and gear.
5. Ensured that the gears were selecting completely.
6. Machined greater clearance between the outer rings of the 3rd/4th sliding
hub and cluster gear/laygear when in forth gear.
Any ideas?
I'll published the final results to the list.
Regards
Patrick Quinn
Sydney, Australia
From PRafe at aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:52:05 EST
Subject: rally 100
I plan to drive the 100 in road rallies and it has been sujected that I
install a rally exhaust and firmer, slighty higher suspension
Could use some info on these types of items and any other that maybe usfull
in my rebuilding of this car.
Thanks Peter Rafe
BJ-8
100M
From john spaur <jmsdarch at infoasis.com>
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 22:40:17 -0800
Subject: Re: Getrag transmission
I think the 'Getrag' was offered as an option (perhaps standard I am not
sure) on Mitsubishi 3000's and perhaps the equivalent Dodge Stealth. It
seems I recall a duribility issue.
John
'62 BT7 with 4 speed and OD
Dodge Stealth with a 5 speed (not 'Getrag')
At 03:12 PM 11/5/00 -0600, farmerrd wrote:
>Friends...I am thinking of installing "Getrag" transmission in my BJ8. Do any
>of you use this transmission? I would be very much interested in any useful
>comments about the transmission. Since it is expensive, I don't want to
>proceed without as much information as possible. Thank you! RD
From Josef.Eckert at t-mobil.de
Date: 7 Nov 2000 07:10:03 +0000
Subject: RE: BN1 or BJ8?
Its amazing,
but recently I saw a MKII, BN7, Tricarb, which was built as a MKI, BN7.
It has got a new identity, because it sells much better as a MKII than
a MKI.
Cheers
Josef Eckert, Germany
From HLYDOC at aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 02:17:58 EST
Subject: Re: election day
Attention all democrats due to the high voter turn out expected on Tuesday
the registrar or voters has sent out this notice that you are to report to
your polling places on Wedensday
From Awgertoo at aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 05:36:10 EST
Subject: Re: election day
In a message dated 11/7/00 2:19:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, HLYDOC@aol.com
writes:
<< Attention all democrats due to the high voter turn out expected on Tuesday
the registrar or voters has sent out this notice that you are to report to
your polling places on Wedensday >>
Judging from its several misspellings and grammatical errors, this post must
have been composed by the Republican Presidential candidate.
Michael
From "Ross Leonard" <rkleonard at sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 05:55:18 -0500
Subject: Healey Sighting on Canadian TV
All,
For those up here in Canada, watch "All that I can do" with Maggie Ruffman
on the weekends on WTN. This show is new for Mag, who is a very funny home
improvement person, to add to her "A Repair to Remember" and "Men on Women"
TV spots. Whenever she's working on projects, there's a blue AH 3000 shown
prominently in her shop. I cringe sometimes because Mag is not the most
dexterous of people (I know, how can she do home improvement stuff...that's
partly what makes her shows so funny), and she seems to come close to
clipping the car with long poles or pieces of wood.
Precision Sportscar is "thanked" in the credits.
Mike Salter - Is this her car, or do you guys provide it as a prop for the
show?
Ross.
'64 BJ8
From "Simon Lachlan" <simon.lachlan at virginnet.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:38:51 -0000
Subject: 3 x HS6s or 3 x HD6s
When I asked for help on going from HS4s to HS6s for my tricarb I
did receive much thoughtful input as to feasability etc, for which
many thanks to those concerned.
Naturally, it seems that I may not have asked the right
question, or -at best- I left out one of the truly crucial
questions germane to the whole shooting match.......
hS6 or hD6???
I only started on about hS6s 'cos the BJ7 has them. As BMC
stuck with hS carbs for it's two MkIIs, it appeared natural
that I should do the same. But, I've read books and it seems
to me that the hD carb is easier to adjust in situ and I instictively
prefer it's fuel linkage(s). (By adjusting in situ, I'm thinking about
the problems I used to have in adjusting the mixture on my hS4s, before
I had the extra joints put in my wrists).
And - exactly what to get.....
All the parts are available here, but I need to get all my ducks
in a row before I start to purchase.....
I will literally be faced with a heap of carbs from which to choose:-
in order to avoid waste of time and money, I need to know details such as
what angle carb sits, float sits?
what is the suggested order of left or right handedness for the float
chambers?
At the moment, we plan to use hD6s as per Daimler V8 (I suppose Dart or
Sovreign).
Also-any other snags that you experts can see coming???
Simon.
From "Feldman, Jack (Jack)" <jack at lucent.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:21:16 -0600
Subject: Portland, OR, activity in December?
I'll be visiting my son in Portland, which seems to be a hotbed of LBC
activities from December 2-8th. Anything going on that week?
Thanks,
Jack
From Fred.Scheuble at triaton-na.com
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:07:46 -0500
Subject: RE: election day
for who laurel or hardy?
-----Original Message-----
From: James B Dalglish [mailto:leaker@exit109.com]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 8:21 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: election day
Let's all get out there and vote!
Jim Dalglish
BT7, 1960
From "John J. Black" <helejohn at neteze.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 07:10:12 -0800
Subject: RE: Getrag transmission
Hi Guys
A little bit of history for you from the transmission world.
Some time ago (within the past two years) a transmission company was having
quality control problems with a certain 5 speed gearbox fitted to several
new car makers vehicles, this resulted in a large number of units being
returned to them with warranty problems. These units were then replaced with
new ones. OK so far?
Now what happened to the old warranty units? Once the problems had been
discovered there seemed little point in stripping a whole load of
transmissions just for the sake of it, so they were placed in two very large
shipping containers (as I said there was a vast number of them!) and offered
to the open market at a very good price.
Enter the transmission rebuild and the classic car upgrade (5 speed
conversions for various marques) trade (Even the most prolific tranny shop
cannot handle that many units at once) Obviously some of these units had
never even been sold in new vehicles as they had a problem from the start,
others had developed the problems early in the units life. I am happy to say
that most/some of these transmissions were rebuilt before hitting the retail
market, and our type of car in particular.
The rest as they say is history! Of course in this litigious society we live
in, this may just be a story NO offence is intended to any vendor or
company. ;>)
BTW, this is the reason that we do not use this transmission in our various
5 speed conversions, preferring the tried and testing units from Ford and
Tremec/Borg Warner.
Regards
John J Black
Waterloo Drivetrain Systems
http://www.waterloo-dtr.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-healeys@autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-healeys@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of john spaur
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 10:40 PM
To: farmerrd
Cc: Healeys
Subject: Re: Getrag transmission
I think the 'Getrag' was offered as an option (perhaps standard I am not
sure) on Mitsubishi 3000's and perhaps the equivalent Dodge Stealth. It
seems I recall a duribility issue.
John
'62 BT7 with 4 speed and OD
Dodge Stealth with a 5 speed (not 'Getrag')
At 03:12 PM 11/5/00 -0600, farmerrd wrote:
>Friends...I am thinking of installing "Getrag" transmission in my BJ8. Do
any
>of you use this transmission? I would be very much interested in any
useful
>comments about the transmission. Since it is expensive, I don't want to
>proceed without as much information as possible. Thank you! RD
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:21:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: wired at both ends
John
It sound worse than it is.
The trafficator is either held together with three screews that are visible
when you rotate the bottom plate (which has three 1/2" holes in it for that
purpose) OR it is held together with tree stakes which must be straightened
and then the bottom plate comes off.
Yes, there are tiny springs and a couple of ball bearings(I think) in the head,
but you can tape that part together and work on the contact plate to attach the
four wires.
BTW British Wiring stocks the steering column harness separately.
DickB
---- you wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> A while back I removed the adjustable steering wheel and Control Head
> (Trafficator?) by disconnecting the wires at the front and pulling the
> turn signal/horn harness through the Stator Tube. Reassembly was a bear
> because the P.O. had spliced the harness which added to the diameter of
> the wire bundle but I was able to manage it.
>
> Now, I need to remove the steering wheel again to make some crack
> repairs. I would like to remove the control head and disconnect the
> wires at that end but remember reading that caution must be used because
> parts can go flying. This will also be a good time to replace the
> spliced harness so at any rate I need to get at the control head
> connectors. Any advise on the proper procedure is appreciated.
>
> (Sorry to bother the list with subjects that have been covered before
> but it appears that the archives are *still* down at listquest.)
>
> Regards,
> John Loftus
> BJ7
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:46:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Himalayan Rally & Phillip Young
Patrick
I hesitate to post anything on this List which even "suggests" that I am
challenging your vast knowledge, BUT, Phillip Young is now the Proprietor of
the company that recently organized the Around the World in 80 Days Rally, last
May and June, 2000. (also the London toIstanbul and London to Beijing and other
LD Rallies)
I was the support coordinator for the Duluth, MN layday of the ATW Rally and
had a chance to meet Phillip. He's is a delightful fellow and for those who
read the daily reports on the Around The World website, he was the author under
the non d'plume "Sid Stelvio".
Regards,
DickB
---- you wrote:
>
> Greetings
>
> Phillip Young is an interesting guy who has a strong leaning towards
> Austin-Healeys. For some years he tried without success to establish a
> classic
> car magazine in the UK. One of the titles was called Sporting Car and always
> featured Austin-Healeys somewhere between its covers. Sadly it was destined
> for failure as it didn't last.
>
> Of late Phillip has been the organiser of a number of long distance classic
> car rallies including the 1997 Peking to Paris.
>
> The Himalayan Rally was featured fairly heavily in his magazine at the time.
> The rally itself wasn't just restricted to classic cars and was open to
> modern
> rally cars as well. Very few of the roads on the rally were on flat ground
> and
> we all know how big Healeys love hills. Many a driver of the modern rally
> cars
> of the time were severely embarrassed when they were passed by the 25 year
> old+ Big Healey with its exhaust growl reverberating across the remote
> valleys
> and hills of the Himalayas.
>
> There are some magic photos of the AH in the event that will make the hairs
> on
> the back of neck stand up.
>
> Lovely stuff
>
> Patrick Quinn
> Sydney, Australia
>
> ps. If you're interested K & R Models make a nice 1:43 metal model kit of
> the
> car.
>
> 1947 Healey Duncan Saloon
> 1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1
>
> >>> Editorgary@aol.com 7/11/00 11:04:22 >>>
>
> Thought the list might be interested in Graham Robson's elaboration on the
> info regarding the works rally Healey in the Gaydon museum.
> Cheers
> Gary Anderson
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> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:59:37 -0500
> From: Graham Robson <GrahamRobson@compuserve.com>
> Subject: Fwd: BN1 or BJ8?
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> Gary,
>
> I think my memory on this rally car is relatively strong. It is an
> ex-Abingdon 'works' car, many years later last driven in anger by Philip
> Young, with Unipart sponsorship, in a Himalayan Rally of the mid-1980s. It
> now carries the identity of 2754 DK.
>
> Digging into Peter Browning's book 'THE WORKS BIG HEALEYS', I see that
> HBT7-101 was originally registered in 1959 as a Healey 3000 Mk I, and that
> it originally had the engine number 26/DR/UH/113. Its registration number
> was SJB 471, its best claim to fame as a 'works' car being 3rd Overall in
> the 1960 RAC rally of 1960 (Morley Twins driving).
>
> After it had been sold off, and gone through several private owners,
> Unipart bought it back, re-registered it 2754 DK, Philip drove it in
> India, and that is the car on display at Gaydon.
>
> As I recall, until 1964 Abingdon only ran 2-seater 'works' 3000s (I
> believe, but I can't prove it, that they only homologated the 2-seater car)
> - and certainly this is the only BT7 listed in Browning's book..
>
> So why was a BN7 built up with a BT7 number ? Search me - but my educated
> guess, probably accurate in this case, is that the car originally was a
> BT7, was an early press/demonstrator car based at Abingdon, and was later
> handed over to the 'works' competitions department for their use. They
> probably converted it to 2-seater spec, to accord with three other BN7s
> (SMO 744/745/746) which were being used at the same time.
>
> It's significant that it might have been an early car, which implies that
> it was built in the summer of 1959, but that its first rally as a 'works'
> rally car was in May 1960.
>
> Will you buy that ?
>
> BTW - Michelotti pix arrivaed back here today. Many thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> GRAHAM ROBSON
>
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From "Kocik, Stephen W" <Stephen.Kocik at unisys.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:08:56 -0500
Subject: RE: Getrag transmission
Speaking of transmissions... I seem to be having a problem with mine. I
have given up, for now, trying to get the overdrive to work in my MKI. Now
I seem to have a bigger problem. When the car hasn't warmed up, I don't
have too much of a problem, but once it is warm, I find I have trouble
getting it into gear. It seems the clutch doesn't release properly and as a
result, shifting becomes hard. To the point of grinding in every gear.
Does this sound like I need a new clutch? I have one, and just have been
waiting to get time to install it. How much play should be in the fork when
the clutch is depressed, mine doesn't seem to move much. I've bleed the
system a number of times, and that seems to help for a little while.. Any
help would be greatly appreciated...
TIA,
Steve Kocik
'61 BN7
-----Original Message-----
From: John J. Black [mailto:helejohn@neteze.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 10:10 AM
To: john spaur; farmerrd
Cc: Healeys
Subject: RE: Getrag transmission
Hi Guys
A little bit of history for you from the transmission world.
Some time ago (within the past two years) a transmission company was having
quality control problems with a certain 5 speed gearbox fitted to several
new car makers vehicles, this resulted in a large number of units being
returned to them with warranty problems. These units were then replaced with
new ones. OK so far?
Now what happened to the old warranty units? Once the problems had been
discovered there seemed little point in stripping a whole load of
transmissions just for the sake of it, so they were placed in two very large
shipping containers (as I said there was a vast number of them!) and offered
to the open market at a very good price.
Enter the transmission rebuild and the classic car upgrade (5 speed
conversions for various marques) trade (Even the most prolific tranny shop
cannot handle that many units at once) Obviously some of these units had
never even been sold in new vehicles as they had a problem from the start,
others had developed the problems early in the units life. I am happy to say
that most/some of these transmissions were rebuilt before hitting the retail
market, and our type of car in particular.
The rest as they say is history! Of course in this litigious society we live
in, this may just be a story NO offence is intended to any vendor or
company. ;>)
BTW, this is the reason that we do not use this transmission in our various
5 speed conversions, preferring the tried and testing units from Ford and
Tremec/Borg Warner.
Regards
John J Black
Waterloo Drivetrain Systems
http://www.waterloo-dtr.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-healeys@autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-healeys@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of john spaur
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 10:40 PM
To: farmerrd
Cc: Healeys
Subject: Re: Getrag transmission
I think the 'Getrag' was offered as an option (perhaps standard I am not
sure) on Mitsubishi 3000's and perhaps the equivalent Dodge Stealth. It
seems I recall a duribility issue.
John
'62 BT7 with 4 speed and OD
Dodge Stealth with a 5 speed (not 'Getrag')
At 03:12 PM 11/5/00 -0600, farmerrd wrote:
>Friends...I am thinking of installing "Getrag" transmission in my BJ8. Do
any
>of you use this transmission? I would be very much interested in any
useful
>comments about the transmission. Since it is expensive, I don't want to
>proceed without as much information as possible. Thank you! RD
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:12:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Indirect Healey Content Only
> > > > Subject: CATS & DOGS
> > > >
> > > > What is a CAT?
> > > > > 1. Cats do what they
want.
> > > > > 2. They rarely listen
to you.
> > > > > 3. They're totally
unpredictable.
> > > > > 4. When you want to
play, they want to be
> > > alone.
> > > > > 5. When you want to be
alone, they want
> to
> > > play.
> > > > > 6. They expect you to
cater to their
> every
> > > whim.
> > > > > 7. They're moody.
> > > > > 8. They leave hair
everywhere.
> > > > >
> > > > >CONCLUSION: They're tiny
women in little fur
> > > coats.
> > > > >
> > > > >What is a DOG?
> > > > > 1. Dogs spend all day
sprawled on the
> most
> > > comfortable piece of
> > > > > furniture in the
house.
> > > > > 2. They can hear a
package of food
> opening
> > > half a block away,
> > > > > but don't hear you when
you're in the same
> > > room.
> > > > > 3. They can look dumb
and lovable all at
> the
> > > same time.
> > > > > 4. They growl when
they are not happy.
> > > > > 5. When you want to
play, they want to
> play.
> > > > > 6. When you want to be
alone, they want
> to
> > > play.
> > > > > 7. They leave their
toys everywhere.
> > > > > 8. They do disgusting
things with their
> > mouths
> > > and then try to
> > > > > give you a kiss.
> > > > > 9. They go right to
your crotch as soon
> as
> > > they meet you.
> > > > >
> > > > >CONCLUSION: They're tiny
men in little fur
> > coats.
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
From M Brouillette <mbrouill at ix.netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 11:16:29 -0500
Subject: Smitty's Tranny setup? (Was: Getrag transmission)
>So folks,
Does the Smitty tranny method make the most sense if not going
with a stock unit? I've been tempted to buy a conversion kit and go
shopping for a Toyota truck tranny to mate to it. Anyone had any issues
with Smitty's setup?
Mike B
59 BT7
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John J. Black [mailto:helejohn@neteze.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 10:10 AM
>To: john spaur; farmerrd
>Cc: Healeys
>Subject: RE: Getrag transmission
>
>
>
>Hi Guys
>A little bit of history for you from the transmission world.
>Some time ago (within the past two years) a transmission company was having
>quality control problems with a certain 5 speed gearbox fitted to several
>new car makers vehicles, this resulted in a large number of units being
>returned to them with warranty problems. These units were then replaced with
>new ones. OK so far?
>
>Now what happened to the old warranty units? Once the problems had been
>discovered there seemed little point in stripping a whole load of
>transmissions just for the sake of it, so they were placed in two very large
>shipping containers (as I said there was a vast number of them!) and offered
>to the open market at a very good price.
>
>Enter the transmission rebuild and the classic car upgrade (5 speed
>conversions for various marques) trade (Even the most prolific tranny shop
>cannot handle that many units at once) Obviously some of these units had
>never even been sold in new vehicles as they had a problem from the start,
>others had developed the problems early in the units life. I am happy to say
>that most/some of these transmissions were rebuilt before hitting the retail
>market, and our type of car in particular.
>
>The rest as they say is history! Of course in this litigious society we live
>in, this may just be a story NO offence is intended to any vendor or
>company. ;>)
>
>BTW, this is the reason that we do not use this transmission in our various
>5 speed conversions, preferring the tried and testing units from Ford and
>Tremec/Borg Warner.
>
>Regards
>John J Black
>Waterloo Drivetrain Systems
>http://www.waterloo-dtr.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-healeys@autox.team.net
>[mailto:owner-healeys@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of john spaur
>Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 10:40 PM
>To: farmerrd
>Cc: Healeys
>Subject: Re: Getrag transmission
>
>
>
>I think the 'Getrag' was offered as an option (perhaps standard I am not
>sure) on Mitsubishi 3000's and perhaps the equivalent Dodge Stealth. It
>seems I recall a duribility issue.
>
>John
>'62 BT7 with 4 speed and OD
>Dodge Stealth with a 5 speed (not 'Getrag')
>
>
>At 03:12 PM 11/5/00 -0600, farmerrd wrote:
>
> >Friends...I am thinking of installing "Getrag" transmission in my BJ8. Do
>any
> >of you use this transmission? I would be very much interested in any
>useful
> >comments about the transmission. Since it is expensive, I don't want to
> >proceed without as much information as possible. Thank you! RD
From Dean Caccavo <healeybn7 at yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:30:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Smitty's Tranny setup? (Was: Getrag transmission)
No troubles. It "trans"forms the car. You will love
it. When you get closer I'll send you some tips in
installation.
Dean
Original Non-overdrive BN7 (Smitty 5-speed)
--- M Brouillette <mbrouill@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >So folks,
>
> Does the Smitty tranny method make the most
> sense if not going
> with a stock unit? I've been tempted to buy a
> conversion kit and go
> shopping for a Toyota truck tranny to mate to it.
> Anyone had any issues
> with Smitty's setup?
>
> Mike B
> 59 BT7
>
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: John J. Black [mailto:helejohn@neteze.com]
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 10:10 AM
> >To: john spaur; farmerrd
> >Cc: Healeys
> >Subject: RE: Getrag transmission
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi Guys
> >A little bit of history for you from the
> transmission world.
> >Some time ago (within the past two years) a
> transmission company was having
> >quality control problems with a certain 5 speed
> gearbox fitted to several
> >new car makers vehicles, this resulted in a large
> number of units being
> >returned to them with warranty problems. These
> units were then replaced with
> >new ones. OK so far?
> >
> >Now what happened to the old warranty units? Once
> the problems had been
> >discovered there seemed little point in stripping a
> whole load of
> >transmissions just for the sake of it, so they were
> placed in two very large
> >shipping containers (as I said there was a vast
> number of them!) and offered
> >to the open market at a very good price.
> >
> >Enter the transmission rebuild and the classic car
> upgrade (5 speed
> >conversions for various marques) trade (Even the
> most prolific tranny shop
> >cannot handle that many units at once) Obviously
> some of these units had
> >never even been sold in new vehicles as they had a
> problem from the start,
> >others had developed the problems early in the
> units life. I am happy to say
> >that most/some of these transmissions were rebuilt
> before hitting the retail
> >market, and our type of car in particular.
> >
> >The rest as they say is history! Of course in this
> litigious society we live
> >in, this may just be a story NO offence is
> intended to any vendor or
> >company. ;>)
> >
> >BTW, this is the reason that we do not use this
> transmission in our various
> >5 speed conversions, preferring the tried and
> testing units from Ford and
> >Tremec/Borg Warner.
> >
> >Regards
> >John J Black
> >Waterloo Drivetrain Systems
> >http://www.waterloo-dtr.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-healeys@autox.team.net
> >[mailto:owner-healeys@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
> john spaur
> >Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 10:40 PM
> >To: farmerrd
> >Cc: Healeys
> >Subject: Re: Getrag transmission
> >
> >
> >
> >I think the 'Getrag' was offered as an option
> (perhaps standard I am not
> >sure) on Mitsubishi 3000's and perhaps the
> equivalent Dodge Stealth. It
> >seems I recall a duribility issue.
> >
> >John
> >'62 BT7 with 4 speed and OD
> >Dodge Stealth with a 5 speed (not 'Getrag')
> >
> >
> >At 03:12 PM 11/5/00 -0600, farmerrd wrote:
> >
> > >Friends...I am thinking of installing "Getrag"
> transmission in my BJ8. Do
> >any
> > >of you use this transmission? I would be very
> much interested in any
> >useful
> > >comments about the transmission. Since it is
> expensive, I don't want to
> > >proceed without as much information as possible.
> Thank you! RD
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From Drtrite at aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:33:35 EST
Subject: Re: Getrag transmission
In a message dated 11/7/2000 10:11:50 Central Standard Time,
Stephen.Kocik@unisys.com writes:
<< It seems the clutch doesn't release properly and as a
result, shifting becomes hard. To the point of grinding in every gear.
Does this sound like I need a new clutch? >>
Check your slave cylinder hose. As they get old they still look great on the
outside, but may be cloapsing on the inside. For a few bucks, put a new one
on.
Don
NTAHC
From "R. C. Brown" <rcbrown at lucent.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:51:36 -0600
Subject: Re: Himalayan Rally & Phillip Young
Anyone wanting more info on the Classic Rally Association of which
Phillip Young is the proprietor can visit their website.
http://www.carnet.co.uk/rallyoffice/
Looks like they have some interesting events planned for the serious
rallist out there.
Bob
dickb@cheerful.com wrote:
>
> Patrick
>
> I hesitate to post anything on this List which even "suggests" that I am
>challenging your vast knowledge, BUT, Phillip Young is now the Proprietor of
>the company that recently organized the Around the World in 80 Days Rally,
>last May and June, 2000. (also the London toIstanbul and London to Beijing and
>other LD Rallies)
>
> I was the support coordinator for the Duluth, MN layday of the ATW Rally and
>had a chance to meet Phillip. He's is a delightful fellow and for those who
>read the daily reports on the Around The World website, he was the author
>under the non d'plume "Sid Stelvio".
>
> Regards,
>
> DickB
>
> ---- you wrote:
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Phillip Young is an interesting guy who has a strong leaning towards
> > Austin-Healeys. For some years he tried without success to establish a
> > classic
> > car magazine in the UK. One of the titles was called Sporting Car and always
> > featured Austin-Healeys somewhere between its covers. Sadly it was destined
> > for failure as it didn't last.
> >
> > Of late Phillip has been the organiser of a number of long distance classic
> > car rallies including the 1997 Peking to Paris.
> >
> > The Himalayan Rally was featured fairly heavily in his magazine at the time.
> > The rally itself wasn't just restricted to classic cars and was open to
> > modern
> > rally cars as well. Very few of the roads on the rally were on flat ground
> > and
> > we all know how big Healeys love hills. Many a driver of the modern rally
> > cars
> > of the time were severely embarrassed when they were passed by the 25 year
> > old+ Big Healey with its exhaust growl reverberating across the remote
> > valleys
> > and hills of the Himalayas.
> >
> > There are some magic photos of the AH in the event that will make the hairs
> > on
> > the back of neck stand up.
> >
> > Lovely stuff
> >
> > Patrick Quinn
> > Sydney, Australia
> >
> > ps. If you're interested K & R Models make a nice 1:43 metal model kit of
> > the
> > car.
> >
> > 1947 Healey Duncan Saloon
> > 1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1
> >
> > >>> Editorgary@aol.com 7/11/00 11:04:22 >>>
> >
> > Thought the list might be interested in Graham Robson's elaboration on the
> > info regarding the works rally Healey in the Gaydon museum.
> > Cheers
> > Gary Anderson
> > Return-Path: <GrahamRobson@compuserve.com>
> > Received: from rly-yg01.mx.aol.com (rly-yg01.mail.aol.com
> > [172.18.147.1]) by air-yg05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.23) with ESMTP; Mon,
> > 06 Nov 2000 16:00:16 -0500
> > Received: from sphmgaab.compuserve.com (hs-img-2.compuserve.com
> > [149.174.177.151]) by rly-yg01.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.19) with ESMTP; Mon,
> > 06 Nov 2000 16:00:05 -0400
> > Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by sphmgaab.compuserve.com
> > (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id QAA11590 for Editorgary@aol.com; Mon, 6 Nov
> > 2000 16:00:04 -0500 (EST)
> > Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:59:37 -0500
> > From: Graham Robson <GrahamRobson@compuserve.com>
> > Subject: Fwd: BN1 or BJ8?
> > Sender: Graham Robson <GrahamRobson@compuserve.com>
> > To: "INTERNET:Editorgary@aol.com" <Editorgary@aol.com>
> > Message-ID: <200011061559_MC2-B9CF-CF7E@compuserve.com>
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Disposition: inline
> > X-Mailer: Unknown
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > I think my memory on this rally car is relatively strong. It is an
> > ex-Abingdon 'works' car, many years later last driven in anger by Philip
> > Young, with Unipart sponsorship, in a Himalayan Rally of the mid-1980s. It
> > now carries the identity of 2754 DK.
> >
> > Digging into Peter Browning's book 'THE WORKS BIG HEALEYS', I see that
> > HBT7-101 was originally registered in 1959 as a Healey 3000 Mk I, and that
> > it originally had the engine number 26/DR/UH/113. Its registration number
> > was SJB 471, its best claim to fame as a 'works' car being 3rd Overall in
> > the 1960 RAC rally of 1960 (Morley Twins driving).
> >
> > After it had been sold off, and gone through several private owners,
> > Unipart bought it back, re-registered it 2754 DK, Philip drove it in
> > India, and that is the car on display at Gaydon.
> >
> > As I recall, until 1964 Abingdon only ran 2-seater 'works' 3000s (I
> > believe, but I can't prove it, that they only homologated the 2-seater car)
> > - and certainly this is the only BT7 listed in Browning's book..
> >
> > So why was a BN7 built up with a BT7 number ? Search me - but my educated
> > guess, probably accurate in this case, is that the car originally was a
> > BT7, was an early press/demonstrator car based at Abingdon, and was later
> > handed over to the 'works' competitions department for their use. They
> > probably converted it to 2-seater spec, to accord with three other BN7s
> > (SMO 744/745/746) which were being used at the same time.
> >
> > It's significant that it might have been an early car, which implies that
> > it was built in the summer of 1959, but that its first rally as a 'works'
> > rally car was in May 1960.
> >
> > Will you buy that ?
> >
> > BTW - Michelotti pix arrivaed back here today. Many thanks.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > GRAHAM ROBSON
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:18:03 -0500
Subject: Re: wired at both ends
Hi John,
Please do not try to remove the bottom plate from the trafficator switch by
straightening the 4 (not 3) stakes that hold the upper tube to the base
mounting plate. These will usually break off when you try to re bend them and
render the upper stator tube useless.
As Dick and others have said carefully rotate the cover plate to reveal the 3
small slot head screws then remove the screws.
This will reveal the 4 small nuts which hold the terminal ends of the stator
harness.
Remove the nuts one at a time to replace the harness. When removing the 2 nuts
that attach the trafficator left and right wires ensure the the trafficator arm
is above the one that you are working on. This will prevent the stud from
rotating or falling out of the
bakelite base plate.
Be very careful to refit the small shakeproof washers and ensure that the nuts
are reasonably tight. It is obviously important that none of the terminals can
come in contact with each other.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
dickb@cheerful.com wrote:
> John
>
> It sound worse than it is.
>
> The trafficator is either held together with three screews that are visible
>when you rotate the bottom plate (which has three 1/2" holes in it for that
>purpose) OR it is held together with tree stakes which must be straightened
>and then the bottom plate comes off.
>
> Yes, there are tiny springs and a couple of ball bearings(I think) in the
>head, but you can tape that part together and work on the contact plate to
>attach the four wires.
>
> BTW British Wiring stocks the steering column harness separately.
>
> DickB
>
> ---- you wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > A while back I removed the adjustable steering wheel and Control Head
> > (Trafficator?) by disconnecting the wires at the front and pulling the
> > turn signal/horn harness through the Stator Tube. Reassembly was a bear
> > because the P.O. had spliced the harness which added to the diameter of
> > the wire bundle but I was able to manage it.
> >
> > Now, I need to remove the steering wheel again to make some crack
> > repairs. I would like to remove the control head and disconnect the
> > wires at that end but remember reading that caution must be used because
> > parts can go flying. This will also be a good time to replace the
> > spliced harness so at any rate I need to get at the control head
> > connectors. Any advise on the proper procedure is appreciated.
> >
> > (Sorry to bother the list with subjects that have been covered before
> > but it appears that the archives are *still* down at listquest.)
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Loftus
> > BJ7
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
From "Kocik, Stephen W" <Stephen.Kocik at unisys.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:21:13 -0500
Subject: RE: Getrag transmission
Thanks for the replies... I'll replace the hose and see what happens.
-----Original Message-----
From: Drtrite@aol.com [mailto:Drtrite@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 11:34 AM
To: Stephen.Kocik@unisys.com; helejohn@neteze.com;
jmsdarch@infoasis.com; farmerrd@cbcast.com
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Getrag transmission
In a message dated 11/7/2000 10:11:50 Central Standard Time,
Stephen.Kocik@unisys.com writes:
<< It seems the clutch doesn't release properly and as a
result, shifting becomes hard. To the point of grinding in every gear.
Does this sound like I need a new clutch? >>
Check your slave cylinder hose. As they get old they still look great on the
outside, but may be cloapsing on the inside. For a few bucks, put a new one
on.
Don
NTAHC
From hm.heim at t-online.de (Helga & Martin Heim)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:01:29 +0100
Subject: Re: Scuttle Shake
Hi John,
try this from a mail of Fred Hunter:
Here's the address of Bill Boltens' fine scuttle repair article:
http://www.team.net/www/healey/tech/big_hly/body/scuttle.html
> Best regards,
> Fred Hunter
> A guy
> Who drives
> A car wide open
> Is not thinkin'
> He's just hopin'
> --Burma-Shave--
> From: "John W. Cope" <naku@wayxcable.com>
> Subject: Scuttle Shake
>
> sometime back their was a thread on the list regarding scuttle shake
with a
> link to a site that had detailed photos of a repair. Does anyone
remember the
> link? Any other information regarding the cause and correction of
"scuttle
> shake" would be appreciated.
>
> John Cope
> BT7 in Waycross, GA
Best regards
Martin
Germany
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:53:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: wired at both ends
Mike
The reason I mentioned the holes in the plate at the top of the stator tube and
also the stakes is: in my BT7MKII the trafficator did Not have the holes in
the stator tube plate, so the only way I could get at the innards was to gently
straighten the stakes. (You're right there are four). In that manner I ONLY
broke off one of the stakes and the other three are holding things together OK.
I only hope that my most recent rebuild will last for a long time as I figure
one more attempt at the straightening maneuver will lead to disaster.
Is my trafficator a one-of-kind, sort of? (The trafficator on my Daimler
SP250, which looked exactlt the same from the top, had the holes in the plate
and the screws.)
DickB
---- you wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> Please do not try to remove the bottom plate from the trafficator switch by
>straightening the 4 (not 3) stakes that hold the upper tube to the base
>mounting plate. These will usually break off when you try to re bend them and
>render the upper stator tube useless.
> As Dick and others have said carefully rotate the cover plate to reveal the 3
>small slot head screws then remove the screws.
> This will reveal the 4 small nuts which hold the terminal ends of the stator
>harness.
> Remove the nuts one at a time to replace the harness. When removing the 2
>nuts that attach the trafficator left and right wires ensure the the
>trafficator arm is above the one that you are working on. This will prevent
>the stud from rotating or falling out of the
> bakelite base plate.
> Be very careful to refit the small shakeproof washers and ensure that the
>nuts are reasonably tight. It is obviously important that none of the
>terminals can come in contact with each other.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Mike Salter
> http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> dickb@cheerful.com wrote:
>
> > John
> >
> > It sound worse than it is.
> >
> > The trafficator is either held together with three screews that are visible
>when you rotate the bottom plate (which has three 1/2" holes in it for that
>purpose) OR it is held together with tree stakes which must be straightened
>and then the bottom plate comes off.
> >
> > Yes, there are tiny springs and a couple of ball bearings(I think) in the
>head, but you can tape that part together and work on the contact plate to
>attach the four wires.
> >
> > BTW British Wiring stocks the steering column harness separately.
> >
> > DickB
> >
> > ---- you wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > A while back I removed the adjustable steering wheel and Control Head
> > > (Trafficator?) by disconnecting the wires at the front and pulling the
> > > turn signal/horn harness through the Stator Tube. Reassembly was a bear
> > > because the P.O. had spliced the harness which added to the diameter of
> > > the wire bundle but I was able to manage it.
> > >
> > > Now, I need to remove the steering wheel again to make some crack
> > > repairs. I would like to remove the control head and disconnect the
> > > wires at that end but remember reading that caution must be used because
> > > parts can go flying. This will also be a good time to replace the
> > > spliced harness so at any rate I need to get at the control head
> > > connectors. Any advise on the proper procedure is appreciated.
> > >
> > > (Sorry to bother the list with subjects that have been covered before
> > > but it appears that the archives are *still* down at listquest.)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > John Loftus
> > > BJ7
> > >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:37:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: wired at both ends
Heck Mike
I wouldn't take out the trafficator again just to check for a part number IF
YOU SEND ME A CASE OF PRIME NEW YORK STRIPS.
I finally have a working horn after eight years - and didn't lose my turn
signals in the process.
But trust me, there were three members of the Minneapolis AHC watching me who
can attest that the plate had no holes in it.
I agree that it was a stupid design (or at least that was what I thought) but
could it be that when Lucas was making up the various parts they forgot to
punch in the holes and the plate (without holes) and upper stator tube got
staked in during initial assembly?
Quality control?? Substitution of parts??
Now that you call it to my attention I wish I would have drilled the holes in
the plate while I had the damned thing apart. <G>
DickB
---- you wrote:
>
> Hi Dick,
>
> Your trafficator would certainly be very unusual in not having the holes in
>the plate. I have rebuilt a bunch of this type of switch and never encountered
>that problem!!
> I can only think that someone has changed the plate at some time because I
>cannot imagine Lucas trying to bend over the stakes after assembling the
>switch. Is there a part number stamped on the plate do you remember? It
>usually has the build month and year next to it.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Mike Salter
> http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> dickb@cheerful.com wrote:
>
> > Mike
> >
> > The reason I mentioned the holes in the plate at the top of the stator tube
>and also the stakes is: in my BT7MKII the trafficator did Not have the holes
>in the stator tube plate, so the only way I could get at the innards was to
>gently straighten the stakes. (You're right there are four). In that manner I
>ONLY broke off one of the stakes and the other three are holding things
>together OK. I only hope that my most recent rebuild will last for a long
>time as I figure one more attempt at the straightening maneuver will lead to
>disaster.
> >
> > Is my trafficator a one-of-kind, sort of? (The trafficator on my Daimler
>SP250, which looked exactlt the same from the top, had the holes in the plate
>and the screws.)
> >
> > DickB
> >
> > ---- you wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > > Please do not try to remove the bottom plate from the trafficator switch
>by straightening the 4 (not 3) stakes that hold the upper tube to the base
>mounting plate. These will usually break off when you try to re bend them and
>render the upper stator tube useless.
> > > As Dick and others have said carefully rotate the cover plate to reveal
>the 3 small slot head screws then remove the screws.
> > > This will reveal the 4 small nuts which hold the terminal ends of the
>stator harness.
> > > Remove the nuts one at a time to replace the harness. When removing the 2
>nuts that attach the trafficator left and right wires ensure the the
>trafficator arm is above the one that you are working on. This will prevent
>the stud from rotating or falling out of the
> > > bakelite base plate.
> > > Be very careful to refit the small shakeproof washers and ensure that the
>nuts are reasonably tight. It is obviously important that none of the
>terminals can come in contact with each other.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Mike Salter
> > > http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >
> > > dickb@cheerful.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > It sound worse than it is.
> > > >
> > > > The trafficator is either held together with three screews that are
>visible when you rotate the bottom plate (which has three 1/2" holes in it for
>that purpose) OR it is held together with tree stakes which must be
>straightened and then the bottom plate comes off.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, there are tiny springs and a couple of ball bearings(I think) in
>the head, but you can tape that part together and work on the contact plate to
>attach the four wires.
> > > >
> > > > BTW British Wiring stocks the steering column harness separately.
> > > >
> > > > DickB
> > > >
> > > > ---- you wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > A while back I removed the adjustable steering wheel and Control Head
> > > > > (Trafficator?) by disconnecting the wires at the front and pulling the
> > > > > turn signal/horn harness through the Stator Tube. Reassembly was a
>bear
> > > > > because the P.O. had spliced the harness which added to the diameter
>of
> > > > > the wire bundle but I was able to manage it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, I need to remove the steering wheel again to make some crack
> > > > > repairs. I would like to remove the control head and disconnect the
> > > > > wires at that end but remember reading that caution must be used
>because
> > > > > parts can go flying. This will also be a good time to replace the
> > > > > spliced harness so at any rate I need to get at the control head
> > > > > connectors. Any advise on the proper procedure is appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > (Sorry to bother the list with subjects that have been covered before
> > > > > but it appears that the archives are *still* down at listquest.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > John Loftus
> > > > > BJ7
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com
>
>
>
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From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:19:29 EST
Subject: Re: Himalayan Rally & Phillip Young
In a message dated 11/6/00 6:04:50 PM, Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au writes:
<< Greetings
Phillip Young is an interesting guy who has a strong leaning towards
Austin-Healeys. >>
Gee -- you just never know where a thread will lead: I put in a short note
about a "two-seat BT7", someone else notes the existence of such a car at
Gaydon, someone else identifies it, and pretty soon we're rallying in the
Himalayas (Him al yas or Him a lay as?)
From "Merchant, Adnan" <Adnan.Merchant at mkg.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:59:16 -0600
Subject: Himalayas
Okay, the perfect opening for me...
To the question of correct pronunciation of the name of that mountain range:
The origin of the name consists of two words, Him and Alay. In Sanskrit,
Him means ice (may include snow). Alay means "abode of", hence the logical
name "Abode of Snow".
The proper pronunciation then is Him al yas. The even more correct version
is a literal concatenation of the two parts, as in Him alay (phonetically
kinda like Him aalay) which is what you'll hear if someone is speaking in
Sanskrit or almost any of the native Indian tongues.
Trivia, anyone?
Adnan
-----Original Message-----
From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:19 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Himalayan Rally & Phillip Young
Gee -- you just never know where a thread will lead: I put in a short note
about a "two-seat BT7", someone else notes the existence of such a car at
Gaydon, someone else identifies it, and pretty soon we're rallying in the
Himalayas (Him al yas or Him a lay as?)
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:12:27 -0800
Subject: RE: Himalayas
This is the absolute last thing I ever thought I would learn on the Healey
list. Things just keep getting more and more surreal all the time! :7)
Jonathan Lane
-----Original Message-----
From: Merchant, Adnan [mailto:Adnan.Merchant@mkg.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:59 PM
To: 'Editorgary@aol.com'; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Himalayas
Okay, the perfect opening for me...
To the question of correct pronunciation of the name of that mountain range:
The origin of the name consists of two words, Him and Alay. In Sanskrit,
Him means ice (may include snow). Alay means "abode of", hence the logical
name "Abode of Snow".
The proper pronunciation then is Him al yas. The even more correct version
is a literal concatenation of the two parts, as in Him alay (phonetically
kinda like Him aalay) which is what you'll hear if someone is speaking in
Sanskrit or almost any of the native Indian tongues.
Trivia, anyone?
Adnan
-----Original Message-----
From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:19 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Himalayan Rally & Phillip Young
Gee -- you just never know where a thread will lead: I put in a short note
about a "two-seat BT7", someone else notes the existence of such a car at
Gaydon, someone else identifies it, and pretty soon we're rallying in the
Himalayas (Him al yas or Him a lay as?)
From Drtrite at aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:06:09 EST
Subject: Re: Himalayas
In a message dated 11/7/2000 16:14:00 Central Standard Time,
lanej@mossmotors.com writes:
<< Things just keep getting more and more surreal all the time! >>
Well, most people are not driving their Healey so this is how they spend
their time.
Don
From Bill Katz <bkatz at handsonresearch.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 15:12:26 -0800
Subject: RE: Himalayas
Beats talking about tires<G>
bk
----------------------------------
At 02:12 PM 11/7/2000 , you wrote:
>This is the absolute last thing I ever thought I would learn on the Healey
>list. Things just keep getting more and more surreal all the time! :7)
>
>Jonathan Lane
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Merchant, Adnan [mailto:Adnan.Merchant@mkg.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:59 PM
>To: 'Editorgary@aol.com'; healeys@autox.team.net
>Subject: Himalayas
>
>
>
>Okay, the perfect opening for me...
>
>To the question of correct pronunciation of the name of that mountain range:
>
>The origin of the name consists of two words, Him and Alay. In Sanskrit,
>Him means ice (may include snow). Alay means "abode of", hence the logical
>name "Abode of Snow".
>
>The proper pronunciation then is Him al yas. The even more correct version
>is a literal concatenation of the two parts, as in Him alay (phonetically
>kinda like Him aalay) which is what you'll hear if someone is speaking in
>Sanskrit or almost any of the native Indian tongues.
>
>Trivia, anyone?
>
>Adnan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:19 PM
>To: healeys@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: Himalayan Rally & Phillip Young
>
>Gee -- you just never know where a thread will lead: I put in a short note
>about a "two-seat BT7", someone else notes the existence of such a car at
>Gaydon, someone else identifies it, and pretty soon we're rallying in the
>Himalayas (Him al yas or Him a lay as?)
From Krazy Kiwi <magicare at home.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 18:22:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Healey Sighting on Canadian TV
Hi Ross,
The BJ8 is mine and was loaned to Mag for the the show. (That way I don't have
to take up shop space for the summer) Mag is one of our regular customers (she
has a Chrysler minivan) and mentioned before shooting started that they were
looking for a car to use as a prop. Many listers would recognize her from "The
Road to Avonlea"
The car came back completely undamaged only to be involved in a collision in
our shop when someone (we suspect our former alarm company) broke in two weeks
ago and drove my MGBGT into the BJ8 and my TR8 to make room for them to
transport the inventory and equipment that they were stealing to a vehicle
parked at one of the shop doors.
Fortunately no customers cars were damaged and the damage to my cars was rather
limited due to the fact that some cases of brake pads were crushed between the
cars, absorbing the 3 wheelspinning attempts made to move all the cars by
driving one!!!
October was not a good month.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
www.precisionsportscar.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Ross Leonard wrote:
> All,
>
> For those up here in Canada, watch "All that I can do" with Maggie Ruffman
> on the weekends on WTN. This show is new for Mag, who is a very funny home
> improvement person, to add to her "A Repair to Remember" and "Men on Women"
> TV spots. Whenever she's working on projects, there's a blue AH 3000 shown
> prominently in her shop. I cringe sometimes because Mag is not the most
> dexterous of people (I know, how can she do home improvement stuff...that's
> partly what makes her shows so funny), and she seems to come close to
> clipping the car with long poles or pieces of wood.
>
> Precision Sportscar is "thanked" in the credits.
>
> Mike Salter - Is this her car, or do you guys provide it as a prop for the
> show?
>
> Ross.
> '64 BJ8
From Donald Shields <dons300 at earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 18:48:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Himalayas
Gentlemen,
The recent string regarding Himalayas was fascinating and made my day. When
was Sanskrit last spoken in its original form? Adnan, what do you do in real
life....."concatenation"......love it!
Don (NJ)
'67 BJ8
former English teacher; retired psychologist,sailor, A-H er. Good to hear from
good, interesting folks.
"Merchant, Adnan" wrote:
> Okay, the perfect opening for me...
>
> To the question of correct pronunciation of the name of that mountain range:
>
> The origin of the name consists of two words, Him and Alay. In Sanskrit,
> Him means ice (may include snow). Alay means "abode of", hence the logical
> name "Abode of Snow".
>
> The proper pronunciation then is Him al yas. The even more correct version
> is a literal concatenation of the two parts, as in Him alay (phonetically
> kinda like Him aalay) which is what you'll hear if someone is speaking in
> Sanskrit or almost any of the native Indian tongues.
>
> Trivia, anyone?
>
> Adnan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:19 PM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Himalayan Rally & Phillip Young
>
> Gee -- you just never know where a thread will lead: I put in a short note
> about a "two-seat BT7", someone else notes the existence of such a car at
> Gaydon, someone else identifies it, and pretty soon we're rallying in the
> Himalayas (Him al yas or Him a lay as?)
From Martin Johnson <MJohnson at cfworks.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:05:17 -0800
Subject: RE: Healey Sighting on Canadian TV
Mike
I am sorry to hear that happened to your vehicles. I consider your
contributions to the Healey list to be very valuable. Further, I have to
say I admire you for not bitching to the list that this happened. Some of
our listers will gag at a gnat! Thanks again for your contributions to the
list.
Martin Johnson
-----Original Message-----
From: Krazy Kiwi [mailto:magicare@home.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 3:22 PM
To: Ross Leonard; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Healey Sighting on Canadian TV
Hi Ross,
The BJ8 is mine and was loaned to Mag for the the show. (That way I don't
have
to take up shop space for the summer) Mag is one of our regular customers
(she
has a Chrysler minivan) and mentioned before shooting started that they were
looking for a car to use as a prop. Many listers would recognize her from
"The
Road to Avonlea"
The car came back completely undamaged only to be involved in a collision in
our shop when someone (we suspect our former alarm company) broke in two
weeks
ago and drove my MGBGT into the BJ8 and my TR8 to make room for them to
transport the inventory and equipment that they were stealing to a vehicle
parked at one of the shop doors.
Fortunately no customers cars were damaged and the damage to my cars was
rather
limited due to the fact that some cases of brake pads were crushed between
the
cars, absorbing the 3 wheelspinning attempts made to move all the cars by
driving one!!!
October was not a good month.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
www.precisionsportscar.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Ross Leonard wrote:
> All,
>
> For those up here in Canada, watch "All that I can do" with Maggie Ruffman
> on the weekends on WTN. This show is new for Mag, who is a very funny home
> improvement person, to add to her "A Repair to Remember" and "Men on
Women"
> TV spots. Whenever she's working on projects, there's a blue AH 3000 shown
> prominently in her shop. I cringe sometimes because Mag is not the most
> dexterous of people (I know, how can she do home improvement
stuff...that's
> partly what makes her shows so funny), and she seems to come close to
> clipping the car with long poles or pieces of wood.
>
> Precision Sportscar is "thanked" in the credits.
>
> Mike Salter - Is this her car, or do you guys provide it as a prop for the
> show?
>
> Ross.
> '64 BJ8
From "Pagel, John" <John.Pagel at imotors.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:42:16 -0800
Subject: RE: Himalayas
Didn't you hear about snow tire recall in Tibet? :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Katz [mailto:bkatz@handsonresearch.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 3:12 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Himalayas
Beats talking about tires<G>
bk
----------------------------------
At 02:12 PM 11/7/2000 , you wrote:
>This is the absolute last thing I ever thought I would learn on the Healey
>list. Things just keep getting more and more surreal all the time! :7)
>
>Jonathan Lane
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Merchant, Adnan [mailto:Adnan.Merchant@mkg.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:59 PM
>To: 'Editorgary@aol.com'; healeys@autox.team.net
>Subject: Himalayas
>
>
>
>Okay, the perfect opening for me...
>
>To the question of correct pronunciation of the name of that mountain
range:
>
>The origin of the name consists of two words, Him and Alay. In Sanskrit,
>Him means ice (may include snow). Alay means "abode of", hence the
logical
>name "Abode of Snow".
>
>The proper pronunciation then is Him al yas. The even more correct
version
>is a literal concatenation of the two parts, as in Him alay (phonetically
>kinda like Him aalay) which is what you'll hear if someone is speaking in
>Sanskrit or almost any of the native Indian tongues.
>
>Trivia, anyone?
>
>Adnan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:19 PM
>To: healeys@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: Himalayan Rally & Phillip Young
>
>Gee -- you just never know where a thread will lead: I put in a short note
>about a "two-seat BT7", someone else notes the existence of such a car at
>Gaydon, someone else identifies it, and pretty soon we're rallying in the
>Himalayas (Him al yas or Him a lay as?)
From "John Snyder" <johnahsn at olypen.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:11:49 -0800
Subject: Re: Healey Sighting on Canadian TV
I agree with Martin. I always read Mike's posts to the list because he
supplies good information. Mike, I'm sorry you got ripped off and had cars
damaged.
John Snyder
'60 BT7
'61 BN7 MK2
'62 BT7 MK2
----------
> From: Martin Johnson <MJohnson@cfworks.com>
> To: 'Krazy Kiwi' <magicare@home.com>; Ross Leonard
<rkleonard@sympatico.ca>; healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: Healey Sighting on Canadian TV
> Date: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 4:05 PM
>
>
> Mike
> I am sorry to hear that happened to your vehicles. I consider your
> contributions to the Healey list to be very valuable. Further, I have to
> say I admire you for not bitching to the list that this happened. Some
of
> our listers will gag at a gnat! Thanks again for your contributions to
the
> list.
> Martin Johnson
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:58:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RE: Himalayas
It was Nepal - the Firestone Nepal AT, all sizes.
---- you wrote:
>
> Didn't you hear about snow tire recall in Tibet? :)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Katz [mailto:bkatz@handsonresearch.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 3:12 PM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: Himalayas
>
>
> Beats talking about tires<G>
>
> bk
> ----------------------------------
> At 02:12 PM 11/7/2000 , you wrote:
>
> >This is the absolute last thing I ever thought I would learn on the Healey
> >list. Things just keep getting more and more surreal all the time! :7)
> >
> >Jonathan Lane
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Merchant, Adnan [mailto:Adnan.Merchant@mkg.com]
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:59 PM
> >To: 'Editorgary@aol.com'; healeys@autox.team.net
> >Subject: Himalayas
> >
> >
> >
> >Okay, the perfect opening for me...
> >
> >To the question of correct pronunciation of the name of that mountain
> range:
> >
> >The origin of the name consists of two words, Him and Alay. In Sanskrit,
> >Him means ice (may include snow). Alay means "abode of", hence the
> logical
> >name "Abode of Snow".
> >
> >The proper pronunciation then is Him al yas. The even more correct
> version
> >is a literal concatenation of the two parts, as in Him alay (phonetically
> >kinda like Him aalay) which is what you'll hear if someone is speaking in
> >Sanskrit or almost any of the native Indian tongues.
> >
> >Trivia, anyone?
> >
> >Adnan
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:19 PM
> >To: healeys@autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: Himalayan Rally & Phillip Young
> >
> >Gee -- you just never know where a thread will lead: I put in a short note
> >about a "two-seat BT7", someone else notes the existence of such a car at
> >Gaydon, someone else identifies it, and pretty soon we're rallying in the
> >Himalayas (Him al yas or Him a lay as?)
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
From Howard Young <hoyo at bellsouth.net>
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 20:10:42 -0600
Subject: Re: Himalayas
Who owns the most Healeys in the Himalayas?
Also do they have to run them with the "Texas Coolers" to keep from over heating
climbing the steep grades?
HoYo
Donald Shields wrote:
> Gentlemen,
>
> The recent string regarding Himalayas was fascinating and made my day.
>When
> was Sanskrit last spoken in its original form? Adnan, what do you do in real
> life....."concatenation"......love it!
>
> Don (NJ)
> '67 BJ8
> former English teacher; retired psychologist,sailor, A-H er. Good to hear
>from
> good, interesting folks.
>
> "Merchant, Adnan" wrote:
>
> > Okay, the perfect opening for me...
> >
> > To the question of correct pronunciation of the name of that mountain range:
> >
> > The origin of the name consists of two words, Him and Alay. In Sanskrit,
> > Him means ice (may include snow). Alay means "abode of", hence the logical
> > name "Abode of Snow".
> >
> > The proper pronunciation then is Him al yas. The even more correct version
> > is a literal concatenation of the two parts, as in Him alay (phonetically
> > kinda like Him aalay) which is what you'll hear if someone is speaking in
> > Sanskrit or almost any of the native Indian tongues.
> >
> > Trivia, anyone?
> >
> > Adnan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:19 PM
> > To: healeys@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: Himalayan Rally & Phillip Young
> >
> > Gee -- you just never know where a thread will lead: I put in a short note
> > about a "two-seat BT7", someone else notes the existence of such a car at
> > Gaydon, someone else identifies it, and pretty soon we're rallying in the
> > Himalayas (Him al yas or Him a lay as?)
From "Ron Yates" <dipstickdigest at ctaz.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 19:51:27 -0700
Subject: George Swift
To all you Healey People, Healey Racers, MG Racers, Cooper Racers, and
Mighty Midget Racers (whoever went through a fence ass-backwards).
This is a shamless solicitation for all on the lists who might be so
inclined.
We have a long time friend (former racer of all those cars mentioned
above) who is not doing so well in his battle with cancer.
His name is George Swift, former racer who worked at the late Gene
Sweeney's BMC agency in San Anselmo (north of San Francisco) as Service
Manager, and raced with the San Francisco Region of SCCA from 1950 to 1956.
If it had wheels George raced it!
For you Healeyphiles, George was the first guy on the west coast to race
the Healey. The car he raced was the second Healey 100 on the west coast
(February, 1953), and was the Grand Prize winner at the 1953 Pebble Beach
Concours. The car was one of the initial pre-production cars. He added a
white swage panel to the car, before it was available or popular as a Healey
color scheme, and raced it from Oct. '53 (Golden Gate Park, Santa Clara,
Stockton, etc.) til he took delivery of one of the first 100S's. That was
given the Healey Blue over white treatment as had the 100 before it (no
white over lobelia blue 100S here!). George raced that car until '56. On
other weekends during this period he raced his Cooper, several MG's, MGA's
(Golden Gate, Sacramento, Reno,etc.), and other marques as they came through
the agency. George also served the sport in various positions with the
SF-SCCA, and worked the races in different capacities when not in an event
as a participant.
I know that there's a slim to no chance that you know who he is or
remember the name, but he is one of us, and he played a big part in the
history of the cars that we're all involved with.
Here's the solicitation part.
If you have time in the next couple of weeks I would like any of you who
feel you can, given this information, send him a card or note before the
holiday wishing him well.
George is not on the internet so your efforts will have to be via snail
mail. He can be reached at:
George Swift
P.O. Box 410
Mendocino, CA 95460
Thank you for your consideration.
Ron Yates
From "Keith Pennell" <pennell at whro.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:48:00 -0500
Subject: Body parts
Listers,
I am currently involved in the resto of another big Healey and we are in the
stage of fitting body panels. Based on this car and a handful of others I
have been involved with I am finding that more often than not there is
difficulty in getting easy and good fit of body panels.
Which leads me to the question . . . How much variation or what were the
acceptable tolerances in the large dimensions of body parts like fenders,
doors, hood, trunk lid, shrouds, etc. Was a variation of 1/16 to 1/8 inch
common at the factory?
Keith Pennell
From "Neil Trelenberg" <neilberg at telus.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:13:01 -0800
Subject: Re: Himalayas
con7cat7e7nate (k<n-k2t"n-3t", k.n-) tr.v. con7cat7e7nat7ed,
con7cat7e7nat7ing, con7cat7e7nates. 1. To connect or link in a series or
chain. 2. Computer Science. To arrange (strings of characters) into a
chained list. --con7cat7e7nate (-n9t, -n3t") adj. Connected or linked in a
series. --con7cat"e7na"tion n.....Had to look that one up boys...Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Shields" <dons300@earthlink.net>
To: "Merchant, Adnan" <Adnan.Merchant@mkg.com>
Cc: <Editorgary@aol.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: Himalayas
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> The recent string regarding Himalayas was fascinating and made my day.
When
> was Sanskrit last spoken in its original form? Adnan, what do you do in
real
> life....."concatenation"......love it!
>
> Don (NJ)
> '67 BJ8
> former English teacher; retired psychologist,sailor, A-H er. Good to hear
from
> good, interesting folks.
>
> "Merchant, Adnan" wrote:
>
> > Okay, the perfect opening for me...
> >
> > To the question of correct pronunciation of the name of that mountain
range:
> >
> > The origin of the name consists of two words, Him and Alay. In
Sanskrit,
> > Him means ice (may include snow). Alay means "abode of", hence the
logical
> > name "Abode of Snow".
> >
> > The proper pronunciation then is Him al yas. The even more correct
version
> > is a literal concatenation of the two parts, as in Him alay
(phonetically
> > kinda like Him aalay) which is what you'll hear if someone is speaking
in
> > Sanskrit or almost any of the native Indian tongues.
> >
> > Trivia, anyone?
> >
> > Adnan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:19 PM
> > To: healeys@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: Himalayan Rally & Phillip Young
> >
> > Gee -- you just never know where a thread will lead: I put in a short
note
> > about a "two-seat BT7", someone else notes the existence of such a car
at
> > Gaydon, someone else identifies it, and pretty soon we're rallying in
the
> > Himalayas (Him al yas or Him a lay as?)
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:18:03 -0500
Subject: Re: wired at both ends
Hi John,
Please do not try to remove the bottom plate from the trafficator switch by
straightening the 4 (not 3) stakes that hold the upper tube to the base
mounting plate. These will usually break off when you try to re bend them and
render the upper stator tube useless.
As Dick and others have said carefully rotate the cover plate to reveal the 3
small slot head screws then remove the screws.
This will reveal the 4 small nuts which hold the terminal ends of the stator
harness.
Remove the nuts one at a time to replace the harness. When removing the 2 nuts
that attach the trafficator left and right wires ensure the the trafficator arm
is above the one that you are working on. This will prevent the stud from
rotating or falling out of the
bakelite base plate.
Be very careful to refit the small shakeproof washers and ensure that the nuts
are reasonably tight. It is obviously important that none of the terminals can
come in contact with each other.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
dickb@cheerful.com wrote:
> John
>
> It sound worse than it is.
>
> The trafficator is either held together with three screews that are visible
>when you rotate the bottom plate (which has three 1/2" holes in it for that
>purpose) OR it is held together with tree stakes which must be straightened
>and then the bottom plate comes off.
>
> Yes, there are tiny springs and a couple of ball bearings(I think) in the
>head, but you can tape that part together and work on the contact plate to
>attach the four wires.
>
> BTW British Wiring stocks the steering column harness separately.
>
> DickB
>
> ---- you wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > A while back I removed the adjustable steering wheel and Control Head
> > (Trafficator?) by disconnecting the wires at the front and pulling the
> > turn signal/horn harness through the Stator Tube. Reassembly was a bear
> > because the P.O. had spliced the harness which added to the diameter of
> > the wire bundle but I was able to manage it.
> >
> > Now, I need to remove the steering wheel again to make some crack
> > repairs. I would like to remove the control head and disconnect the
> > wires at that end but remember reading that caution must be used because
> > parts can go flying. This will also be a good time to replace the
> > spliced harness so at any rate I need to get at the control head
> > connectors. Any advise on the proper procedure is appreciated.
> >
> > (Sorry to bother the list with subjects that have been covered before
> > but it appears that the archives are *still* down at listquest.)
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Loftus
> > BJ7
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
From Ron Rader <rader at interworld.net>
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 22:37:20 -0800
Subject: Re: Himalayas
Boy
I love this list!
Ron
Neil Trelenberg wrote:
> con7cat7e7nate (k<n-k2t"n-3t", k.n-) tr.v. con7cat7e7nat7ed,
> con7cat7e7nat7ing, con7cat7e7nates. 1. To connect or link in a series or
> chain. 2. Computer Science. To arrange (strings of characters) into a
> chained list. --con7cat7e7nate (-n9t, -n3t") adj. Connected or linked in a
> series. --con7cat"e7na"tion n.....Had to look that one up boys...Neil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donald Shields" <dons300@earthlink.net>
> To: "Merchant, Adnan" <Adnan.Merchant@mkg.com>
> Cc: <Editorgary@aol.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Himalayas
>
> >
> > Gentlemen,
> >
> > The recent string regarding Himalayas was fascinating and made my day.
> When
> > was Sanskrit last spoken in its original form? Adnan, what do you do in
> real
> > life....."concatenation"......love it!
> >
> > Don (NJ)
> > '67 BJ8
> > former English teacher; retired psychologist,sailor, A-H er. Good to hear
> from
> > good, interesting folks.
> >
> > "Merchant, Adnan" wrote:
> >
> > > Okay, the perfect opening for me...
> > >
> > > To the question of correct pronunciation of the name of that mountain
> range:
> > >
> > > The origin of the name consists of two words, Him and Alay. In
> Sanskrit,
> > > Him means ice (may include snow). Alay means "abode of", hence the
> logical
> > > name "Abode of Snow".
> > >
> > > The proper pronunciation then is Him al yas. The even more correct
> version
> > > is a literal concatenation of the two parts, as in Him alay
> (phonetically
> > > kinda like Him aalay) which is what you'll hear if someone is speaking
> in
> > > Sanskrit or almost any of the native Indian tongues.
> > >
> > > Trivia, anyone?
> > >
> > > Adnan
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:19 PM
> > > To: healeys@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: Himalayan Rally & Phillip Young
> > >
> > > Gee -- you just never know where a thread will lead: I put in a short
> note
> > > about a "two-seat BT7", someone else notes the existence of such a car
> at
> > > Gaydon, someone else identifies it, and pretty soon we're rallying in
> the
> > > Himalayas (Him al yas or Him a lay as?)
From "Ross Leonard" <rkleonard at sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 05:20:51 -0500
Subject: RE: Healey Sighting on Canadian TV
Mike,
Sorry to hear about the damaged brits and theft. The nerve of some people to
defile an LBC like that...some people just don't deserve to live.
I echo to sentiments of other listers in saying that we greatly appreciate
your postings on the list, and I personally would like to thank Precision
for their continued help in supplying parts and advice for my own project.
All the best in recovering from this terrible incident!
Ross.
'64 BJ8
-----Original Message-----
From: Krazy Kiwi [mailto:magicare@home.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 6:22 PM
To: Ross Leonard; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Healey Sighting on Canadian TV
Hi Ross,
The BJ8 is mine and was loaned to Mag for the the show. (That way I don't
have
to take up shop space for the summer) Mag is one of our regular customers
(she
has a Chrysler minivan) and mentioned before shooting started that they were
looking for a car to use as a prop. Many listers would recognize her from
"The
Road to Avonlea"
The car came back completely undamaged only to be involved in a collision in
our shop when someone (we suspect our former alarm company) broke in two
weeks
ago and drove my MGBGT into the BJ8 and my TR8 to make room for them to
transport the inventory and equipment that they were stealing to a vehicle
parked at one of the shop doors.
Fortunately no customers cars were damaged and the damage to my cars was
rather
limited due to the fact that some cases of brake pads were crushed between
the
cars, absorbing the 3 wheelspinning attempts made to move all the cars by
driving one!!!
October was not a good month.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
www.precisionsportscar.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Ross Leonard wrote:
> All,
>
> For those up here in Canada, watch "All that I can do" with Maggie Ruffman
> on the weekends on WTN. This show is new for Mag, who is a very funny home
> improvement person, to add to her "A Repair to Remember" and "Men on
Women"
> TV spots. Whenever she's working on projects, there's a blue AH 3000 shown
> prominently in her shop. I cringe sometimes because Mag is not the most
> dexterous of people (I know, how can she do home improvement
stuff...that's
> partly what makes her shows so funny), and she seems to come close to
> clipping the car with long poles or pieces of wood.
>
> Precision Sportscar is "thanked" in the credits.
>
> Mike Salter - Is this her car, or do you guys provide it as a prop for the
> show?
>
> Ross.
> '64 BJ8
From "Lance Werner" <brshwrks at bellatlantic.net>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 06:02:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Healey Sighting on Canadian TV
I second that comment!
lance
54 bn1
----- Original Message -----
From: Martin Johnson <MJohnson@cfworks.com>
To: 'Krazy Kiwi' <magicare@home.com>; Ross Leonard <rkleonard@sympatico.ca>;
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: Healey Sighting on Canadian TV
>
> Mike
> I am sorry to hear that happened to your vehicles. I consider your
> contributions to the Healey list to be very valuable. Further, I have to
> say I admire you for not bitching to the list that this happened. Some of
> our listers will gag at a gnat! Thanks again for your contributions to
the
> list.
> Martin Johnson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Krazy Kiwi [mailto:magicare@home.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 3:22 PM
> To: Ross Leonard; healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Healey Sighting on Canadian TV
>
>
>
> Hi Ross,
>
> The BJ8 is mine and was loaned to Mag for the the show. (That way I don't
> have
> to take up shop space for the summer) Mag is one of our regular customers
> (she
> has a Chrysler minivan) and mentioned before shooting started that they
were
> looking for a car to use as a prop. Many listers would recognize her from
> "The
> Road to Avonlea"
>
> The car came back completely undamaged only to be involved in a collision
in
> our shop when someone (we suspect our former alarm company) broke in two
> weeks
> ago and drove my MGBGT into the BJ8 and my TR8 to make room for them to
> transport the inventory and equipment that they were stealing to a vehicle
> parked at one of the shop doors.
>
> Fortunately no customers cars were damaged and the damage to my cars was
> rather
> limited due to the fact that some cases of brake pads were crushed between
> the
> cars, absorbing the 3 wheelspinning attempts made to move all the cars by
> driving one!!!
>
> October was not a good month.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Mike Salter
>
> www.precisionsportscar.com
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Ross Leonard wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > For those up here in Canada, watch "All that I can do" with Maggie
Ruffman
> > on the weekends on WTN. This show is new for Mag, who is a very funny
home
> > improvement person, to add to her "A Repair to Remember" and "Men on
> Women"
> > TV spots. Whenever she's working on projects, there's a blue AH 3000
shown
> > prominently in her shop. I cringe sometimes because Mag is not the most
> > dexterous of people (I know, how can she do home improvement
> stuff...that's
> > partly what makes her shows so funny), and she seems to come close to
> > clipping the car with long poles or pieces of wood.
> >
> > Precision Sportscar is "thanked" in the credits.
> >
> > Mike Salter - Is this her car, or do you guys provide it as a prop for
the
> > show?
> >
> > Ross.
> > '64 BJ8
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 06:41:48 -0800
Subject: RE: Body parts
I hear this all the time.
MGBs are usually fairly good but anything earlier is pretty much a
nightmare. When you buy a replacement fender there is probably one car on
the entire planet that it might just bolt up to and it won't be yours. TR3
sidecurtains are probably the worst. As they went down the assembly line
they held the sidecurtains up to the door and drilled for the mounting
plates. The new ones never fit and people yell at me all the time about it.
Remember, this was not Rolls Royce. They were cheap sports cars and the
tolerences on body panels was pretty generous.
Jonathan Lane
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Pennell [mailto:pennell@whro.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 6:48 PM
To: Healey List
Subject: Body parts
Listers,
I am currently involved in the resto of another big Healey and we are in the
stage of fitting body panels. Based on this car and a handful of others I
have been involved with I am finding that more often than not there is
difficulty in getting easy and good fit of body panels.
Which leads me to the question . . . How much variation or what were the
acceptable tolerances in the large dimensions of body parts like fenders,
doors, hood, trunk lid, shrouds, etc. Was a variation of 1/16 to 1/8 inch
common at the factory?
Keith Pennell
From Ed Santoro <esantoro at drbc.state.nj.us>
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 10:24:15 -0800
Subject: Re: Most Healeys Contest
John: Great Idea !!! The following is my "Ballot"
1957 BN4 Running
1958 BN4 Not Running !
1959 BT7 ""
1960 BT7 ''
1961 BT7 Tricarb ""
1962 BN7 2 seater Tricarb""
1954 BN1 Not Running
Also:
Assorted bits for 2 complete early 3000 healeys
MGC/GT
1973 Jaguar XJ6
The above is part of my sickness. I am not in the buisness. I own them
all... until my wife divorces me and then I will only own half of
them....only kidding !!. Thanks, EDS
John Loftus wrote:
> 1. Who has the largest collection of running Austin Healeys?
>
> 2. Who has the largest collection of complete but non-running Austin
> Healeys?
>
> Rules:
>
> A. Winning claims will need to be substantiated with pictures and/or
> reliable witnesses.
>
> B. Running Austin Healey means the car will start NOW and can be safely
> driven at day and night.
>
> C. Non-running Austin Healey means all the parts are there, it just
> doesn't run or is being restored. Parted out cars do not count.
>
> D. Must all be owned by the same person.
>
> E. May need a special category for Private, Business and Museum so
> please specify.
>
> Prize: bragging rights
>
> Cheers,
> John Loftus - with only one so far...
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 08:40:17 -0600
Subject: Re: Himalayas
That's an interesting point. Has a study ever been made as to how many of
the listers have driveable Healeys? RayfixitanddriveitsomedayFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Drtrite@aol.com>
To: <lanej@mossmotors.com>; <Adnan.Merchant@mkg.com>; <Editorgary@aol.com>;
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: Himalayas
>
> In a message dated 11/7/2000 16:14:00 Central Standard Time,
> lanej@mossmotors.com writes:
>
> << Things just keep getting more and more surreal all the time! >>
>
> Well, most people are not driving their Healey so this is how they spend
> their time.
>
> Don
From John Loftus <loftusdesign at home.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 09:18:05 -0800
Subject: Re: wired at both ends
A huge THANK YOU! for all the tips and advice regarding the Trafficator
wiring. I'm waiting for the new harness to arrive but the detailed
instructions will be put to very good use. Maybe I'll be right this time
when I tell my wife it should only take a half hour!
Cheers,
John
John Loftus wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> A while back I removed the adjustable steering wheel and Control Head
> (Trafficator?) by disconnecting the wires at the front and pulling the
> turn signal/horn harness through the Stator Tube. Reassembly was a bear
> because the P.O. had spliced the harness which added to the diameter of
> the wire bundle but I was able to manage it.
>
> Now, I need to remove the steering wheel again to make some crack
> repairs. I would like to remove the control head and disconnect the
> wires at that end but remember reading that caution must be used because
> parts can go flying. This will also be a good time to replace the
> spliced harness so at any rate I need to get at the control head
> connectors. Any advise on the proper procedure is appreciated.
>
> (Sorry to bother the list with subjects that have been covered before
> but it appears that the archives are *still* down at listquest.)
>
> Regards,
> John Loftus
> BJ7
From Healey1828 at aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:58:24 EST
Subject: Negative Ground
Can anyone give me the pros and cons of switching form positive to negative
ground?
Thanks
Tom 65BJ8
From "Sam Marble" <samncyna at netzero.net>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:11:54 -0500
Subject: Re: Negative Ground
Negative ground allows for the use of modern accessories such as
radios, etc. You can also upgrade to an alternator that will provide a
greater capacity for these accessories.
If you have an electronic Tach (as in a BJ8) you may run into
difficulties getting this to work after the conversion.
Sam
----- Original Message -----
From: <Healey1828@aol.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 1:58 PM
Subject: Negative Ground
>
> Can anyone give me the pros and cons of switching form positive to
negative
> ground?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom 65BJ8
>
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From John Trifari <john4 at home.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 01:24:53 -0800
Subject: Re: 185/70's on an early BN1
Curt--sorry for the delay. I have been without e-mail for seven days.
Hardware problmes, and the tech just came yesterday. Anyway. my comments on
front wing dimensions are based on copyt from the Austin Service Journal STR
1878 Vol 26 p 31. BN1 dimension from arch to top of wing is specified as 9"
(22.86 cm); BN2 at 7 3/4" (19.68 cm). You may be correct about the 9 1/2"
dimension. Who knows? What we all have to realize is that as far as
Austin-Healeys are concerned, trhere is always an exception to the rule.
However, it would appear from the service journals that the majority of BN1s
carried a 9" measurement. One other thing: I have an aluminum head on the
car and that provides increased clearance. However, when I initially put 185s
on the BN1 in 1994, the car was equipped with a conventional cast-iron head.
John Trifari 1955 BN1/1965 BJ8
CNAArndt@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 10/31/2000 12:45:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> john4@home.com writes:
>
> << All BN1s have the same fender clearance
> dimensions. The arch size was changed when they brought out the BN2. >>
>
> Hi John
>
> As to the above statement, maybe not. I've been building a case that the
> very early BN1's built in '53 may have been a tad bit smaller. I've
> currently documented about six cars built in '53 that measure 91/2" versus
> the standard 9" from the top of the wheel arch to the fender beading. I
> thought that Bill Barnett was one of those with the smaller wheel arch, so
> Bill drop me a line when you get a chance.
>
> Curt Arndt
> '55 BN1, '60 Bugeye
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 15:23:00 -0600
Subject: Re: Negative Ground
Hi Tom
Just done this in this fall -advantages cell phone, CD/Tape radio, and
more
driving lights wth the potential of using a GPS - negatives (np pun
intended) a
little less original. To the latter, I've kept all the original items
and when
I sell the new owner can have them.
You will have to convert the tach to negative ground - Mo-Ma did an
excellent job for me.
Kind regards
Ed
Saskatoon
'65 BJ8
Healey1828@aol.com wrote:
> Can anyone give me the pros and cons of switching form positive to negative
> ground?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom 65BJ8
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:36:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
Jay
Eastwood has a Kit for exactly this purpose. I haven't used it (instead I
covered my wheel with a black leather lace-on cover) but I would hope other
Listers would give you the benefit of their experience.
Eastwood has a website.
DickB
---- you wrote:
> I have a steering wheel for my '55 Alpine that is cracked and the cracks
> have expanded. Like many other cars, the steering wheel has a metal ring
> running around the inside and it's covered by this plastic/bakelite type
> stuff. I know there are services that will restore steering wheels for
> something over $300. Has anyone tackled this themselves? I was thinking
> something along the lines of spraying in the cracks with a Rustoleum type
> paint and then filling the cracks with bondo and sanding to regain the
> shape. But, I am also worried that the rust inside will continue to
> expand, causing the cracks to reappear and further separations. Anyone
> have any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
From John Trifari <john4 at home.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 02:05:17 -0800
Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
Contact: John Trifari
OpenRoads 2002
408-541-9608
408-541-9320 FAX
408-373-6479 Cellphone
john4@home.com
Low Registration Fee makes 2002 Lake Tahoe
Healey International the perfect driving vacation
Registration to start July 1, 2001
SUNNYVALE California (USA) --November 8, 2000--In a move aimed at making
the OpenRoads 2002 Healey International the most exceptional vacation
experience possible for Healey owners and enthusiasts worldwide, the
OpenRoads 2002 Event Committee has set the Registration Fee for the Event
at $89 (US).
The OpenRoads 2002 Healey International will be hosted by the Golden Gate
Austin-Healey Club. It runs from Sunday June 23, 2002 to Friday June 28,
2002 at the Horizon Inn and Casino, Stateline, Nevada on the South Shore of
Lake Tahoe. The meet celebrates the 50th anniversary of the first
Austin-Healey, the 100, and the popularity and longevity of all
Austin-Healeys, Austin-Healey Sprites and Jensen-Healeys, as well as all
Healeys built prior to 1952. Rooms will be available at the Horizon for
$89 per night per room.
The $89 room charge covers one couple and/or one car. Charge is $99 for
three adults per night per room; $109 for four adults/room/night. Children
under 12 are free. Taxes are not included. Additional fees, comparable to
those set for past Conclaves, Healey Internationals and West Coast Meets
(Healey Rendezvous) will be established early in 2001 to cover those
bringing in more than one Healey. Other charges, such as those for
banquets, speed events, regalia, etc., will be extra. Late registration
fees may also be imposed.
"The Lake Tahoe area is one of the world's most perfect Healey driving
sites," said Loren cross, Chairman of the 2002 International Organizing
Committee. "We've made arrangements for the perfect Healey vacation, and
we're looking froward to hosting the largest gathering of Healey owners and
enthusiasts to date." The Golden Gate Austin-Healey Club has arranged for
400 rooms at the Horizon, and is investigating the availability of
additional rooms in Stateline, Nevada and in nearby South Lake Tahoe,
California. "We have $89 rooms, an $89 registration fee and you can get to
the meet easily on California Route 89," he added. "We already have a lot
of space available for lovers of the Healey Marque, and we're looking for
more."
Registration for OpenRoads 2002 will begin July 1, 2001 and can be made via
printed registration forms in local, national and international Healey
publications, and on-line via MasterCard or Visa through the OpenRoads 2002
web site at www.healey2002.com. Registration can also be made during
Conclave 2001 at Grand Rapids, Minnesota July 23-28 or at Rendezvous 2001
at Rogue River, Oregon July 30 to August 3, 2001. Room registrations at
the Horizon can be made only after a registration number has been issued.
Certain registration numbers will be retained for use by the OpenRoads 2002
Committee.
The weeklong event will include rallies, tours, autocross competition and
other speed events, technical sessions and a car show on Monday June 24.
Already a number of honored guests, including Bic and Mary Healey, John and
Joy Healey and Gerry and Marion Coker have accepted invitations to attend.
Also attending will be owners of Healey boats.
For real-time updates about OpenRoads Healey International 2002, and for
information on Lake Tahoe and the Horizon, go to the Event web site at
www.healey2002.com. Information is also available through the club
newsletter,
Golden Gate Healey Happenings.
###
From John Trifari <john4 at home.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 02:20:54 -0800
Subject: Low Registration Fee Set for Healey 2002 International
Contact: John Trifari
OpenRoads 2002
408-541-9608
408-541-9320 FAX
408-373-6479 Cellphone
john4@home.com
Low Registration Fee makes 2002 Lake Tahoe
Healey International the perfect driving vacation
Registration to start July 1, 2001
SUNNYVALE California (USA) --November 8, 2000--In a move aimed at making
the OpenRoads 2002 Healey International the most exceptional vacation
experience possible for Healey owners and enthusiasts worldwide, the
OpenRoads 2002 Event Committee has set the Registration Fee for the Event
at $89 (US).
The OpenRoads 2002 Healey International will be hosted by the Golden Gate
Austin-Healey Club. It runs from Sunday June 23, 2002 to Friday June 28,
2002 at the Horizon Inn and Casino, Stateline, Nevada on the South Shore of
Lake Tahoe. The meet celebrates the 50th anniversary of the first
Austin-Healey, the 100, and the popularity and longevity of all
Austin-Healeys, Austin-Healey Sprites and Jensen-Healeys, as well as all
Healeys built prior to 1952. Rooms will be available at the Horizon for
$89 per night per room.
The $89 room charge covers one couple and/or one car. Charge is $99 for
three adults per night per room; $109 for four adults/room/night. Children
under 12 are free. Taxes are not included. Additional fees, comparable to
those set for past Conclaves, Healey Internationals and West Coast Meets
(Healey Rendezvous) will be established early in 2001 to cover those
bringing in more than one Healey. Other charges, such as those for
banquets, speed events, regalia, etc., will be extra. Late registration
fees may also be imposed.
"The Lake Tahoe area is one of the world's most perfect Healey driving
sites," said Loren cross, Chairman of the 2002 International Organizing
Committee. "We've made arrangements for the perfect Healey vacation, and
we're looking froward to hosting the largest gathering of Healey owners and
enthusiasts to date." The Golden Gate Austin-Healey Club has arranged for
400 rooms at the Horizon, and is investigating the availability of
additional rooms in Stateline, Nevada and in nearby South Lake Tahoe,
California. "We have $89 rooms, an $89 registration fee and you can get to
the meet easily on California Route 89," he added. "We already have a lot
of space available for lovers of the Healey Marque, and we're looking for
more."
Registration for OpenRoads 2002 will begin July 1, 2001 and can be made via
printed registration forms in local, national and international Healey
publications, and on-line via MasterCard or Visa through the OpenRoads 2002
web site at www.healey2002.com. Registration can also be made during
Conclave 2001 at Grand Rapids, Minnesota July 23-28 or at Rendezvous 2001
at Rogue River, Oregon July 30 to August 3, 2001. Room registrations at
the Horizon can be made only after a registration number has been issued.
Certain registration numbers will be retained for use by the OpenRoads 2002
Committee.
The weeklong event will include rallies, tours, autocross competition and
other speed events, technical sessions and a car show on Monday June 24.
Already a number of honored guests, including Bic and Mary Healey, John and
Joy Healey and Gerry and Marion Coker have accepted invitations to attend.
Also attending will be owners of Healey boats.
For real-time updates about OpenRoads Healey International 2002, and for
information on Lake Tahoe and the Horizon, go to the Event web site at
www.healey2002.com. Information is also available through the club
newsletter,
Golden Gate Healey Happenings.
###
From "John R. Draxler" <jdrax at badger.tds.net>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:18:12 -0600
Subject: brake booster on BJ8
I am doing resto on a 67 BJ8
what is the best thing to do for a booster
rebuild the one we have or buy a rebuilt?
what do I look for when I open this thing up
what is a reasonable price to charge for going through one of these correctly?
--
http://www.tbirdranch.com
John R. Draxler (Thunderbird Ranch)
7158 Hwy. B, Pittsville, WI 54466
715-884-6546 (9am to 6pm Central)
Subscribe to my newsletter at : http://www.tbirdranch.com
"have a terrific day" and may the Lord guide your footsteps
From "David" <david_m at radiantsoundworks.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:41:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Negative Ground
Just one point for those who do want to keep it positive ground for whatever
reason.
J.C. Whitney sells a modern version of the power converters. It provides 12
volt power for negative ground devices, and it supplies FOUR AMPERES
continuous current. That's WAY better than the old type of converter. And
it's only about 1.5 inch square! I am running a CD player AND a small amp
from mine, and it works flawlessly and quietly.
The bad news is that it costs about 90 bucks. There is a lower power version
available for less dough.
Dave
BJ8
TR4A
From "John R. Draxler" <jdrax at badger.tds.net>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 19:26:25 -0600
Subject: need a few small parts not in catalog
looking for a few small parts can't get in catalogs
someone here was going to send me some vent window mounting parts,
have not heard from them, If you are out there please contact me, i
am ready for them
now I also need the clamps that hold the heater box together. I think
there are four of them.
I am looking for the blower motor housing also, asked once before and no luck
asking again, hopefully someone can steer me.
Steve Beyers-------- the form is in the mail for registration.
-----------------
Now for a biggie
who rebuilds trannies and how do I get this box to them?
I don't think I want to tackle this thing myself.
--
http://www.tbirdranch.com
John R. Draxler (Thunderbird Ranch)
7158 Hwy. B, Pittsville, WI 54466
715-884-6546 (9am to 6pm Central)
Subscribe to my newsletter at : http://www.tbirdranch.com
"have a terrific day" and may the Lord guide your footsteps
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 20:40:41 -0600
Subject: Listquest Archives
Hi Fellows
It appears that the archives on the Listquest web site are again
operational.
Kind regards
Ed
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
'65 BJ8
From MOWOGMAN at aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:24:03 EST
Subject: Re: need a few small parts not in catalog
I thought the heater housing clamps were in catalogs?
For the blower housing check this place out, they seem to be the manufacturer?
< <A HREF="http://www.mgcars.org.uk/ah/index.htm";>Ashley Hinton - Manufacturer
of Body Panels, Heaters and Accessories for MG
<and</A>
stumbled on them recently, they have the whole blowers, may also sell just
the housing if you e mail them.
As far as the tranny, transmissions are actually pretty easy to rebuild, they
scarey part is if it needs lots of parts, it can get pricey. I'd be willing
to help you with it? Let me know if you want to work something out. I'm in
eastern Wisconsin, near Sheboygan.
John
Oostburg, WI
'60 BT7
'60 Mini
'80 TR7 (freshly repainted Carmine red!)
'69 AA
'57 Isetta
Etc.
From Healeyguy at aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 02:41:45 EST
Subject: Re: Austin Healey HD6 Carbs
Listers
I'm looking for a complete pair of HD6 (1-3/4 inch) carbs from an Austin
Healey early 3000. Need the linkage between carbs for throttle shaft and
chokes also. Please email off list with availablity and price.
Thanks
Perry
From "Steve Jowett" <enquiries at ukhealey.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 09:45:48 -0000
Subject: Re: Austin Healey HD6 Carbs
Perry
HD6 carbs. for the Healey are available new again in the UK. Aprox.
#550.00 for the matched pair. Links and levers are also available.
Steve Jowett UK HEALEY
AUSTIN HEALEY - MG - TRIUMPH - JAGUAR
ASTON MARTIN
www.ukhealey.co.uk
From Fred.Scheuble at triaton-na.com
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 09:16:33 -0500
Subject: RE: Restoring Steering Wheels
POR sell a putty that is perfect for this use, easy to mold and sans and
I've used it on restoring a 36 old and a 67 mustang steering wheel, results
are excellent. One wheel is going on 5 years and still looks as good as when
I first did it.
-----Original Message-----
From: dickb@cheerful.com [mailto:dickb@cheerful.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 4:36 PM
To: Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com; austin healey list
Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
Jay
Eastwood has a Kit for exactly this purpose. I haven't used it (instead I
covered my wheel with a black leather lace-on cover) but I would hope other
Listers would give you the benefit of their experience.
Eastwood has a website.
DickB
---- you wrote:
> I have a steering wheel for my '55 Alpine that is cracked and the cracks
> have expanded. Like many other cars, the steering wheel has a metal ring
> running around the inside and it's covered by this plastic/bakelite type
> stuff. I know there are services that will restore steering wheels for
> something over $300. Has anyone tackled this themselves? I was thinking
> something along the lines of spraying in the cracks with a Rustoleum type
> paint and then filling the cracks with bondo and sanding to regain the
> shape. But, I am also worried that the rust inside will continue to
> expand, causing the cracks to reappear and further separations. Anyone
> have any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
From Fred.Scheuble at triaton-na.com
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 09:57:38 -0500
Subject: RE: Restoring Steering Wheels
boy, I better start using spell checker!
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com [mailto:Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:17 AM
To: dickb@cheerful.com; Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com;
healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Restoring Steering Wheels
POR sell a putty that is perfect for this use, easy to mold and sans and
I've used it on restoring a 36 old and a 67 mustang steering wheel, results
are excellent. One wheel is going on 5 years and still looks as good as when
I first did it.
-----Original Message-----
From: dickb@cheerful.com [mailto:dickb@cheerful.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 4:36 PM
To: Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com; austin healey list
Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
Jay
Eastwood has a Kit for exactly this purpose. I haven't used it (instead I
covered my wheel with a black leather lace-on cover) but I would hope other
Listers would give you the benefit of their experience.
Eastwood has a website.
DickB
---- you wrote:
> I have a steering wheel for my '55 Alpine that is cracked and the cracks
> have expanded. Like many other cars, the steering wheel has a metal ring
> running around the inside and it's covered by this plastic/bakelite type
> stuff. I know there are services that will restore steering wheels for
> something over $300. Has anyone tackled this themselves? I was thinking
> something along the lines of spraying in the cracks with a Rustoleum type
> paint and then filling the cracks with bondo and sanding to regain the
> shape. But, I am also worried that the rust inside will continue to
> expand, causing the cracks to reappear and further separations. Anyone
> have any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
From "Magnus Karlsson" <healey at telia.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:10:52 +0100
Subject: SV: need a few small parts not in catalog
Last I looked AH Spares had the clamps for the heater.
Magnus Karlsson
SWEDEN
----- Original Message -----
From: John R. Draxler <jdrax@badger.tds.net>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:26 AM
Subject: need a few small parts not in catalog
>
> looking for a few small parts can't get in catalogs
>
> someone here was going to send me some vent window mounting parts,
> have not heard from them, If you are out there please contact me, i
> am ready for them
>
> now I also need the clamps that hold the heater box together. I think
> there are four of them.
>
> I am looking for the blower motor housing also, asked once before and no luck
>
> asking again, hopefully someone can steer me.
>
> Steve Beyers-------- the form is in the mail for registration.
>
> -----------------
>
> Now for a biggie
>
> who rebuilds trannies and how do I get this box to them?
>
> I don't think I want to tackle this thing myself.
> --
>
> http://www.tbirdranch.com
> John R. Draxler (Thunderbird Ranch)
> 7158 Hwy. B, Pittsville, WI 54466
> 715-884-6546 (9am to 6pm Central)
> Subscribe to my newsletter at : http://www.tbirdranch.com
> "have a terrific day" and may the Lord guide your footsteps
From "rons" <arjayarjay at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:06:15 +0000
Subject: Restoring steering wheel.
I have restored my BN1 steering wheel using the Eastwood kit. I can report
excellent results, in fact, I would defy anyone to tell that it has been
restored. As usual preparation is everything and patience in reshaping
hardened 'plastic' is also necessary. Unless you've worked with plastic-like
materials, that is, Bondo, before there is a bit of a 'learning curve.' But
don't let that inhibit your efforts. I did buy a book offered by Eastwood
about the restoring process. Since I did the restoration 4-5 years ago, I
forget how important that it was the the actual process but I know it gave
me a sense of confidence.
rons
BN-1
From Trmgafun at aol.com
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 12:09:08 EST
Subject: Bugeye Blueprints?
Hi all,
I have been in contact with a fifteen year old A-H Sprite enthusiast who has
an interest in locating mechanical blueprints for the Bugeye Sprite. I've
never seen any reproductions available, but if anyone happens to know of any,
please contact me.
Much thanks,
Scott Helms
Trmgafun@aol.com
From "Coop1" <coop1 at dnai.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:41:41 -0800
Subject: Is the list down again?
I've received 1 message in 16 hours. That's just not possible. Anyone else
having problems receiving Healey list posts? If so how can we fix this?
Coop
From l-dkirby <l-dkirby at home.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 20:55:25 -0800
Subject: Re: Is the list down again?
I have only received 2 or 3 messages in the last 24 hours. Len
Coop1 wrote:
>
> I've received 1 message in 16 hours. That's just not possible. Anyone else
> having problems receiving Healey list posts? If so how can we fix this?
> Coop
From Fred.Scheuble at triaton-na.com
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:19:22 -0500
Subject: RE: Restoring Steering Wheels
sounds like a plan
-----Original Message-----
From: John Loftus [mailto:loftusdesign@home.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:49 PM
To: Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com; 'healeys@autox.team.net'
Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
I'm also planning to use the POR putty to fix my stock steering wheel.
The cracks and lifting plastic are in the area where the spokes meet the
rim. I have heard that there are metal clips under the plastic that wrap
around the metal core. The reason that the plastic cracks is that the
metal clips are not fastened together and with stress and heat they can
move. I've been told to remove the broken plastic, fasten the metal
clips securely with rivets, sheet metal screws or equiv. and then repair
the missing plastic with the POR type epoxy filler. Comments anyone?
Cheers,
John
Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com wrote:
>
> POR sell a putty that is perfect for this use, easy to mold and sans and
> I've used it on restoring a 36 old and a 67 mustang steering wheel,
results
> are excellent. One wheel is going on 5 years and still looks as good as
when
> I first did it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dickb@cheerful.com [mailto:dickb@cheerful.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 4:36 PM
> To: Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com; austin healey list
> Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
>
> Jay
>
> Eastwood has a Kit for exactly this purpose. I haven't used it (instead I
> covered my wheel with a black leather lace-on cover) but I would hope
other
> Listers would give you the benefit of their experience.
>
> Eastwood has a website.
>
> DickB
>
> ---- you wrote:
> > I have a steering wheel for my '55 Alpine that is cracked and the cracks
> > have expanded. Like many other cars, the steering wheel has a metal
ring
> > running around the inside and it's covered by this plastic/bakelite type
> > stuff. I know there are services that will restore steering wheels for
> > something over $300. Has anyone tackled this themselves? I was
thinking
> > something along the lines of spraying in the cracks with a Rustoleum
type
> > paint and then filling the cracks with bondo and sanding to regain the
> > shape. But, I am also worried that the rust inside will continue to
> > expand, causing the cracks to reappear and further separations. Anyone
> > have any thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jay
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
From Bill Katz <bkatz at handsonresearch.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 11:52:34 -0800
Subject: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
I just wanted to ask the non-US listers if things look as screwed up
outside the US as they do from here? Are they giving the election fiasco
much press coverage?
We now return you to your regular programming.
Bill Katz
Bay Area, CA
'67 BJ8
'94 325is
http://www.handsonresearch.com/healey
From Roland Wilhelmy <rwil at cts.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 21:43:46 -0800
Subject: Re: Is the list down again?
I have received six in the last hour, including yours, Coop
-Roland
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:41:41 -0800, you wrote:
::
:: I've received 1 message in 16 hours. That's just not possible. Anyone else
:: having problems receiving Healey list posts? If so how can we fix this?
:: Coop
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:47:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Barkleys?
Grrrrrreat Photos
Thanks so much
DickB
---- you wrote:
> They handled beautifully and had great brakes and were pretty
> successful little racing cars. Great fun to drive when they were
> running.
>
> I have a few pictures of Berkeleys and pieces of same at a site I
> recently put up called http://coldplugs.homestead.com if anyone's
> interested.
>
> John C
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey H. Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
> To: british-cars@autox.team.net <british-cars@autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 8:04 PM
> Subject: Barkelys?
>
>
> >I'm watching Speedvisions's Legends of Motors Sports, "BRSCC 1957"
> >and one of the featured races at the Brands Hatch August Bank
> Holiday
> >races was a type-specific race of what the announcer called "the
> >supercharged lawnmower race" comprised entirely of a car called a
> >Barkely (sp?). They look a lot like a spridget front end and frogeye
> >rear end.
> >
> >Has anyone ever heard of these cars?
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
From "Magnus Karlsson" <healey at telia.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 07:49:44 +0100
Subject: SV: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
Yes we get a lot of media coverage about the Presidential election. It4s almost
as important for us over here as for you Americans, since a lot of important
events in America affects us too. For example the stockmarket over here follows
your markets directly in the path.
Magnus Karlsson
SWEDEN
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Katz <bkatz@handsonresearch.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 8:52 PM
Subject: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of election
>
> I just wanted to ask the non-US listers if things look as screwed up
> outside the US as they do from here? Are they giving the election fiasco
> much press coverage?
>
> We now return you to your regular programming.
>
>
> Bill Katz
> Bay Area, CA
> '67 BJ8
> '94 325is
> http://www.handsonresearch.com/healey
From Josef.Eckert at t-mobil.de
Date: 10 Nov 2000 08:30:37 +0000
Subject: No Healey content: Think of election outside US
Its a little funny for us to see and hear about the confusion in the States.
The comments in TV and Radio are like:
The Americans are not able to count votes.
USA goes back to Banana Republic.
But the matter is too serious to make jokes about it. So, our medias are very
close looking what is going on in America. In Germany we think Clinton has done
well, Gore may follow this path. We do not know a lot about Bush. But I think
there is not a big difference in the politics of Gore and Bush. So we think
lets go on. Both are not the best, but accepable. Elect one of both, but stop
these funny things.
In Germany we are as all other European Countries very much effected, what is
going on in the States. The Dollar is very very high. The Euro is very weak.
The stock market reactions are directly related to whats going on in the States
and these brokers are like chickens.
Thats more or less my personal feelings.
Josef Eckert, Germany
From "John R. Draxler" <jdrax at badger.tds.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 16:12:33 -0600
Subject: looking for pics
Is there a website out there that has photos of BJ8's specifically
I am looking for extensive photo coverage of how things should look
and how things are located on this car. The shop manual has next to
nothing for diagrams or photographs.
this car came to me in boxes
I have worked on a couple of these before but has been a few years
and the memory fades.
every piece was dismantled so need to see lots of photos of eng.
compt and interior
--
http://www.tbirdranch.com
John R. Draxler (Thunderbird Ranch)
7158 Hwy. B, Pittsville, WI 54466
715-884-6546 (9am to 6pm Central)
Subscribe to my newsletter at : http://www.tbirdranch.com
"have a terrific day" and may the Lord guide your footsteps
From John Loftus <loftusdesign at home.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:48:57 -0800
Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
I'm also planning to use the POR putty to fix my stock steering wheel.
The cracks and lifting plastic are in the area where the spokes meet the
rim. I have heard that there are metal clips under the plastic that wrap
around the metal core. The reason that the plastic cracks is that the
metal clips are not fastened together and with stress and heat they can
move. I've been told to remove the broken plastic, fasten the metal
clips securely with rivets, sheet metal screws or equiv. and then repair
the missing plastic with the POR type epoxy filler. Comments anyone?
Cheers,
John
Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com wrote:
>
> POR sell a putty that is perfect for this use, easy to mold and sans and
> I've used it on restoring a 36 old and a 67 mustang steering wheel, results
> are excellent. One wheel is going on 5 years and still looks as good as when
> I first did it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dickb@cheerful.com [mailto:dickb@cheerful.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 4:36 PM
> To: Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com; austin healey list
> Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
>
> Jay
>
> Eastwood has a Kit for exactly this purpose. I haven't used it (instead I
> covered my wheel with a black leather lace-on cover) but I would hope other
> Listers would give you the benefit of their experience.
>
> Eastwood has a website.
>
> DickB
>
> ---- you wrote:
> > I have a steering wheel for my '55 Alpine that is cracked and the cracks
> > have expanded. Like many other cars, the steering wheel has a metal ring
> > running around the inside and it's covered by this plastic/bakelite type
> > stuff. I know there are services that will restore steering wheels for
> > something over $300. Has anyone tackled this themselves? I was thinking
> > something along the lines of spraying in the cracks with a Rustoleum type
> > paint and then filling the cracks with bondo and sanding to regain the
> > shape. But, I am also worried that the rust inside will continue to
> > expand, causing the cracks to reappear and further separations. Anyone
> > have any thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jay
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
From "David" <david_m at radiantsoundworks.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:39:00 -0500
Subject: Interior panel dimensions
Hi Healey listers,
I have a question. I am trying to spruce up the interior of my BJ8, and the
interior pieces that are in the worst condition are the rear panels on
either side of the back seat area. I don't know what you call these
pieces...I even looked in the Moss book to so that I would know what to call
what I am describing, but no luck.
The vinyl panels that surround (and hide) the frame of the top frame on
either side....that have the chrome latch openings. There...you must know
what I mean. On my car the plywood base material is rotted to nothing. The
outer vinyl skin is in fair to good shape. The wood just dissapeared from
within. I want to make new plywook pieces....fit them to the metal end piece
as before....and then remount the original vinyl to that. But I can only
derive a rough estimate (from the vinyl) of the actual shape that the wood
should be. If I have to I can recreate it from trial and error, but here's
my question:
Does anyone have a pattern for the shape of this wood?
Thanks!
Dave
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 03:31:22 -0600
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
We Canadians typically give a lot of coverage to events happening in the
U.S. We're also haveing an election for a Prime Minister ( I don't expect
our south of the border neighbors to know what that office is ) but we have
the usual bunch of bandidos running for office all trying to convince the
voters that they're interested in improving the country. My personal
opinion is that all politicians are primarily interested in getting
re-elected and will do whatever it takes. Whiners please feel free to
complain about the absence of the words Austin or Healey in this post.
RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Katz" <bkatz@handsonresearch.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:52 PM
Subject: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of election
>
> I just wanted to ask the non-US listers if things look as screwed up
> outside the US as they do from here? Are they giving the election fiasco
> much press coverage?
>
> We now return you to your regular programming.
>
>
> Bill Katz
> Bay Area, CA
> '67 BJ8
> '94 325is
> http://www.handsonresearch.com/healey
From Kit Henry <khenry at hmcltd.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 07:37:32 -0500
Subject: Austin Healey Engines For Sale
Group:
I have two Austin Healey 3000 engines that I would like to part
with.
#1 Is a complete Tri carb engine We have the Carbs, they are not on the
engine currently.
#2 Is a 3000 dual carb motor, the carbs are not with the engine
Both Engines have transmissions also available.
These motors are located in Northern Ohio and have been tarped on a
trailer for the past year. We would like to move them before the snow
flies.
Any offers considered, to not really want to deal with shipping them if
I don't have to.
Also does someone have a line on Eastwood for the steering wheel repair
kits ?
--
Kit Henry
Henry MotorSports Inc.
419-483-5064
http://www.henrymotorsports.com
E-Mail: khenry@hmcltd.net
From Howard Young <hoyo at bellsouth.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:19:25 -0600
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
Yes,
some of your "South American" friends know what a "Prime" Minister is , having
lived in the former British Empire colony of Malaysia (Malaya)
HoYo
ray feehan wrote:
> We Canadians typically give a lot of coverage to events happening in the
> U.S. We're also haveing an election for a Prime Minister ( I don't expect
> our south of the border neighbors to know what that office is ) but we have
> the usual bunch of bandidos running for office all trying to convince the
> voters that they're interested in improving the country. My personal
> opinion is that all politicians are primarily interested in getting
> re-elected and will do whatever it takes. Whiners please feel free to
> complain about the absence of the words Austin or Healey in this post.
> RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Katz" <bkatz@handsonresearch.com>
> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:52 PM
> Subject: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of election
>
> >
> > I just wanted to ask the non-US listers if things look as screwed up
> > outside the US as they do from here? Are they giving the election fiasco
> > much press coverage?
> >
> > We now return you to your regular programming.
> >
> >
> > Bill Katz
> > Bay Area, CA
> > '67 BJ8
> > '94 325is
> > http://www.handsonresearch.com/healey
From "Burt Weiner" <rangerbw at mediaone.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 09:27:49 -0500
Subject: Northeast Healy Help
Listers,
I joined the list about a year ago when I started getting motivated to get
my BJ7 running once again. My goal is a good daily driver. I feel it would
be cost effective for me to get a pro to do some of the job and so I'm
looking for recommendations for engine work and body work. I live in
Chelmsford, Massachusetts (near the New Hampshire border). Any and all
replies (well, knowing this list probably not ALL <grin>) welcome. If you
want to reply off list (preferred), I'm bweiner@pumatech.com.
Burt
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 09:36:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
Hi Jay,
The following is our experiance on steering wheel repair.
We used bowling ball epoxy to repair steering wheels long before repros were
available. Our conclusion was that in the long term the repairs were a waste of
time. It seems that the material used in the original manufacture of Healey and
MG wheels shrinks very slowly as time passed. This is the cause of the cracks
appearing because the whole thing is moulded onto a steel ring which of course
does not shrink. Although our repaired wheels looked great for a couple of years
after that time however the cracks started to open up again and within a few
months we were not a lot better off.
I understand that the material that the currently avaiable wheels are made from
is different from the original and does not shrink the same way.....time will
tell.
Hope this is helpful.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com wrote:
> sounds like a plan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Loftus [mailto:loftusdesign@home.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:49 PM
> To: Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com; 'healeys@autox.team.net'
> Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
>
> I'm also planning to use the POR putty to fix my stock steering wheel.
> The cracks and lifting plastic are in the area where the spokes meet the
> rim. I have heard that there are metal clips under the plastic that wrap
> around the metal core. The reason that the plastic cracks is that the
> metal clips are not fastened together and with stress and heat they can
> move. I've been told to remove the broken plastic, fasten the metal
> clips securely with rivets, sheet metal screws or equiv. and then repair
> the missing plastic with the POR type epoxy filler. Comments anyone?
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
> Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com wrote:
> >
> > POR sell a putty that is perfect for this use, easy to mold and sans and
> > I've used it on restoring a 36 old and a 67 mustang steering wheel,
> results
> > are excellent. One wheel is going on 5 years and still looks as good as
> when
> > I first did it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dickb@cheerful.com [mailto:dickb@cheerful.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 4:36 PM
> > To: Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com; austin healey list
> > Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > Eastwood has a Kit for exactly this purpose. I haven't used it (instead I
> > covered my wheel with a black leather lace-on cover) but I would hope
> other
> > Listers would give you the benefit of their experience.
> >
> > Eastwood has a website.
> >
> > DickB
> >
> > ---- you wrote:
> > > I have a steering wheel for my '55 Alpine that is cracked and the cracks
> > > have expanded. Like many other cars, the steering wheel has a metal
> ring
> > > running around the inside and it's covered by this plastic/bakelite type
> > > stuff. I know there are services that will restore steering wheels for
> > > something over $300. Has anyone tackled this themselves? I was
> thinking
> > > something along the lines of spraying in the cracks with a Rustoleum
> type
> > > paint and then filling the cracks with bondo and sanding to regain the
> > > shape. But, I am also worried that the rust inside will continue to
> > > expand, causing the cracks to reappear and further separations. Anyone
> > > have any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jay
> > >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
From "Kocik, Stephen W" <Stephen.Kocik at unisys.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:10:02 -0500
Subject: RE: Interior panel dimensions
I would be interested in the same for a BN7...
Steve Kocik
61 BN7
-----Original Message-----
From: David [mailto:david_m@radiantsoundworks.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 8:39 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Interior panel dimensions
Hi Healey listers,
I have a question. I am trying to spruce up the interior of my BJ8, and the
interior pieces that are in the worst condition are the rear panels on
either side of the back seat area. I don't know what you call these
pieces...I even looked in the Moss book to so that I would know what to call
what I am describing, but no luck.
The vinyl panels that surround (and hide) the frame of the top frame on
either side....that have the chrome latch openings. There...you must know
what I mean. On my car the plywood base material is rotted to nothing. The
outer vinyl skin is in fair to good shape. The wood just dissapeared from
within. I want to make new plywook pieces....fit them to the metal end piece
as before....and then remount the original vinyl to that. But I can only
derive a rough estimate (from the vinyl) of the actual shape that the wood
should be. If I have to I can recreate it from trial and error, but here's
my question:
Does anyone have a pattern for the shape of this wood?
Thanks!
Dave
From Rmoment at aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:37:56 EST
Subject: Push-on finisher
I have some NEW push-on finisher (the fuzzy stuff) of the exactly correct
color for gray interior 6-cyl roadsters (gray/green or gray/red). There are
3 door opening pieces, with the rubber seal attached (you can do a car and
have a spare piece for the future in case one gets damaged), and many feet of
the plain push-on for along the bottom edge of the vinyl-covered dash.
Please contact me directly if you are interested. I'd like to sell it as a
lot and will make a very favorable price.
Roger
From "James Sailer" <sailer at srv.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:53:19 -0700
Subject: Re: Negative Ground
Tom;
I too switched over to negative ground in my BJ8 last spring. I rewired the
tach in about a half hour, includinge removal and refit. I wanted to change
over to an alternator to power some brighter lights (H4s and driving lights)
for night driving (elk and moose at high speeds in LBCs give me the
willies)........
Jim Sailer 66 BJ8
From l-dkirby <l-dkirby at home.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:28:28 -0800
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
Bill, being from British Columbia it was my impression that we were the
weird ones and screwed things up politically, but the US sure takes the
cake on this one. Len
Bill Katz wrote:
>
> I just wanted to ask the non-US listers if things look as screwed up
> outside the US as they do from here? Are they giving the election fiasco
> much press coverage?
>
> We now return you to your regular programming.
>
> Bill Katz
> Bay Area, CA
> '67 BJ8
> '94 325is
> http://www.handsonresearch.com/healey
From "Simon Lachlan" <simon.lachlan at virginnet.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:02:56 -0000
Subject: RE: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
Well, we find it pretty strange viewing in the UK. We don't
make many comparisons and we don't criticize what we don't
understand. We have a "First past the post system"
also; after that, our systems are very different. But our guy
becomes Prime Minister if he gets more of his party into the House
of Commons at the General Election, thus having more Members of
Parliament. This should give the Party in Power enough votes - where
it matters - to get their legislation through.
If pushed, we might say that we didn't really understand your
system, wondered whether you do and queried at such an
efficient people using such a system.
I suppose that we don't really care HOW you do it, so long as you DO
do it. I was trying to explain to my 11 yr old daughter how much UK & US
owed each other historically and culturally and how much it mattered
that our biggest friend be a Democracy. When all is said and
done, not much else matters.
This might be an appropriate place to put in a disclaimer clause, but
nothing
suitable comes to mind!
Simon.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-healeys@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-healeys@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Bill Katz
> Sent: 09 November 2000 19:53
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
> election
>
>
>
> I just wanted to ask the non-US listers if things look as screwed up
> outside the US as they do from here? Are they giving the election fiasco
> much press coverage?
>
> We now return you to your regular programming.
>
>
> Bill Katz
> Bay Area, CA
> '67 BJ8
> '94 325is
> http://www.handsonresearch.com/healey
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 09:08:40 -0800
Subject: FW: Interior panel dimensions/BN7 interior Quarter panels
I hate to do it but I'm putting on my Moss sales guy hat...
I am assuming that you need the convoluted wooden/fiberboard wheel arch and
side panel pieces that are specific to the 2 seaters. We are in the process
of having these items reproduced. They will come covered and assembled in
our panel kits and I think we will offer the wooden pieces separately as
well. Unfortunately the price of the panel kits will go up a bit but anyone
who has ever tried to rebuild these things knows it's a huge pain. I spent
all day doing one of mine wrong. They are being patterned off of original
pieces (off my car) and from what I have seen so far the quality is
excellent. We should have the prototype done in the next couple of days.
I'll keep you posted on how they look. Not sure what the cost will be at
this point.
Ok, the hat's off now. I am returning to my innocuous mild mannered healey
lister identity.
Jonathan Lane
Retail Sales
Moss Motors, Ltd.
(800) 235-6954 x3240
(805) 692-2525 - Fax
lanej@mossmotors.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Kocik, Stephen W [mailto:Stephen.Kocik@unisys.com]
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 7:10 AM
To: David; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Interior panel dimensions
I would be interested in the same for a BN7...
Steve Kocik
61 BN7
-----Original Message-----
From: David [mailto:david_m@radiantsoundworks.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 8:39 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Interior panel dimensions
Hi Healey listers,
I have a question. I am trying to spruce up the interior of my BJ8, and the
interior pieces that are in the worst condition are the rear panels on
either side of the back seat area. I don't know what you call these
pieces...I even looked in the Moss book to so that I would know what to call
what I am describing, but no luck.
The vinyl panels that surround (and hide) the frame of the top frame on
either side....that have the chrome latch openings. There...you must know
what I mean. On my car the plywood base material is rotted to nothing. The
outer vinyl skin is in fair to good shape. The wood just dissapeared from
within. I want to make new plywook pieces....fit them to the metal end piece
as before....and then remount the original vinyl to that. But I can only
derive a rough estimate (from the vinyl) of the actual shape that the wood
should be. If I have to I can recreate it from trial and error, but here's
my question:
Does anyone have a pattern for the shape of this wood?
Thanks!
Dave
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 09:24:31 -0800
Subject: wierd sale stuff
Well, the Moss Sales guy hat is going back on for just a moment. We have
some body panels and a few interior bits that we are blowing out in a couple
of days. Mostly wierd stuff that's been hanging out on the shelves for a
while. We have some fenders, shroud pieces, door skins, armrests, 100/4
carbs, that type of stuff. Supplies are limited. Anyone interested please
contact me offline with your requirements and I'll see what we have.
Ok. The hat is off again.
Jonathan Lane
Retail Sales
Moss Motors, Ltd.
(800) 235-6954 x3240
(805) 692-2525 - Fax
lanej@mossmotors.com
From "Richard J. Hockert, Esq." <rjh.co at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:48:33 -0600
Subject: Right hand pedal box and brace
Some how in the ordering of parts for my car, I ended up with an extra, brand
new, right hand pedal box and brace. It is the same as Moss part # 805-800
$149.95 PEDAL BOX ASSEMBLY, R/H.
If any one on the list needs this part, I should like to sell it or trade it,
bargain price for list members. Please contact me off line. Thanks.
Richard J. Hockert
BJ8 Rallye
Dallas, TX
From Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 21:39:17 +0000
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does look a real mess. A
President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd people?????????
Peter Dzwig
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Katz" <bkatz@handsonresearch.com>
> > To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:52 PM
> > Subject: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of election
> >
> > >
> > > I just wanted to ask the non-US listers if things look as screwed up
> > > outside the US as they do from here? Are they giving the election fiasco
> > > much press coverage?
> > >
> > > We now return you to your regular programming.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill Katz
> > > Bay Area, CA
> > > '67 BJ8
> > > '94 325is
> > > http://www.handsonresearch.com/healey
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:39:50 -0800
Subject: Weird sale stuff take 3
I've had a lot of interest in this so I I made a list and sent it out but I
haven't seen it come through yet. It could be a problem with the format. I
would suggest that anyone interested in stuff contact me directly and I will
send you a list of parts on sale.
Thanks!
Jonathan Lane
Retail Sales
Moss Motors, Ltd.
(800) 235-6954 x3240
(805) 692-2525 - Fax
lanej@mossmotors.com
From "Steve Byers" <byers at cconnect.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:40:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Interior panel dimensions
Hi, David --
Last year I installed a new leather interior in my BJ8, so I have available
the old panels I removed and you are welcome to them, or to use them as
templates. The upholstery on them is non-standard, but the panel underneath
should be fine. You may also be in luck in another way: I'm heading your
way, sort of, tomorrow. Perhaps we can arrange to meet somewhere, and I'll
bring them with me.
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
Havelock, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: David <david_m@radiantsoundworks.com>
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, November 10, 2000 4:59 AM
Subject: Interior panel dimensions
>
>Hi Healey listers,
>
>I have a question. I am trying to spruce up the interior of my BJ8, and the
>interior pieces that are in the worst condition are the rear panels on
>either side of the back seat area. I don't know what you call these
>pieces...I even looked in the Moss book to so that I would know what to
call
>what I am describing, but no luck.
>
>The vinyl panels that surround (and hide) the frame of the top frame on
>either side....that have the chrome latch openings. There...you must know
>what I mean. On my car the plywood base material is rotted to nothing. The
>outer vinyl skin is in fair to good shape. The wood just dissapeared from
>within. I want to make new plywook pieces....fit them to the metal end
piece
>as before....and then remount the original vinyl to that. But I can only
>derive a rough estimate (from the vinyl) of the actual shape that the wood
>should be. If I have to I can recreate it from trial and error, but here's
>my question:
>
>Does anyone have a pattern for the shape of this wood?
>
>Thanks!
>Dave
From Healybj8 at aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:58:44 EST
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent to Florida
begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am worried
about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either guy can do
the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that finally
loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
Tim Wallace
'67 BJ8
Fuquay-Varina, NC
In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
<< Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does look a real
mess. A
President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
people?????????
Peter Dzwig >>
From WilKo at aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:14:28 EST
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the Electoral
College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a president (Al
Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as president.
Is that you meant Peter?
Rick
San Diego
In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
<<
Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent to Florida
begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am worried
about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either guy can do
the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that finally
loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
Tim Wallace
'67 BJ8
Fuquay-Varina, NC
In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
<< Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does look a real
mess. A
President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
people?????????
Peter Dzwig >>
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:22:01 EST
Subject: Re: Interior panel dimensions
In a message dated 11/10/2000 3:40:21 AM Central Standard Time,
david_m@radiantsoundworks.com writes:
> <<On my car the plywood base material is rotted to nothing>>
>
> But are available (uncovered) from me (UK Made) for both BJ-8 and BJ-7,
> Gents.
>
> Cheers..........
From Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:23:28 +0000
Subject: Healey for sale
I notice from one of the sports car mags that UJB 143 (genuine ex-works rally
car) is up for auction at Brooks Olympia, here in London on Dec. 4th.
Anybody fancy a nice Christmas present?
Peter
PS Before anybody asks.... it ISN'T DD300...the registration (UJB 143) was used
on a later car after the original was re-registered as DD300.
From "P.M. Pollock" <pollpete at ix.netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:40:38 -0800
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
I think you'll find this sort of outcome not uncommon -indeed, virtually
inevitable- in any district based system (as opposed to at-large based) that
chooses by "first-past-the-post".
Perhaps our British readers could confirm: Have there not been many British
governments formed by parties having taken a majority of seats in Commons, while
receiving substantially fewer total votes than their major competitor? I know
little about British practices, but that is what the time (dis)honored American
practice of Gerrymandering is all about. We Yanks had (have?) one California
Congressional district the two parts of which are connected by several hundred
yards of beach.
The US is not alone. We're just lucky that this is only the third or fourth
time
in 50 some elections this has happened.
Regards,
Pete Pollock
BJ7
N. California
WilKo@aol.com wrote:
> I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the Electoral
> College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a president (Al
> Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as president.
>
> Is that you meant Peter?
>
> Rick
> San Diego
>
> In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
>
> <<
> Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent to Florida
> begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am worried
> about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either guy can do
> the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that finally
> loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
>
> Tim Wallace
> '67 BJ8
> Fuquay-Varina, NC
>
> In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
>
> << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does look a real
> mess. A
> President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
> people?????????
>
> Peter Dzwig >>
From Jerry Wall <jwbn6 at iopener.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:13:21 -0600
Subject: TX KOOLER FALL SPECIAL ALMOST OVER
NOVEMBER 15 IS THE LAST ELIGIBLE FOR THE DISCOUNTED KOOLER SPECIAL.
AFTER NOV 15 THE PRICE REVERTS BACK TO $45.
NOW IS THE TIME TO GET YOUR HEALEY READY FOR THE 2001 DRIVING SEASON UNLESS YOU
LIVE BELOW THE MASON-DIXON LINE WHERE YOU CAN ENJOY A FULL 12 MONTHS OF HEALEY
DRIVING YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT.
ENOUGH OF THIS SALES PANDERING, I'M GOING TO FIRE UP THE BN6 AND GO FOR A RIDE.
CHECK IT OUT ON www.ntahc.austin1.com
happy healeying,
jerry wall
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:10:35 EST
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
In a message dated 11/10/00 3:43:04 PM, pollpete@ix.netcom.com writes:
<<
The US is not alone. We're just lucky that this is only the third or fourth
time
in 50 some elections this has happened. >>
I can think of a lot of other countries where the Clinton equivalent would
have called out the army, declared martial law, declared the electoral
college system didn't represent the will of the people and was therefore no
longer binding, and announced that the Gore equivalent would become the next
president.
Luckily, we have a nation with a confidence in the rule of law which is
intensely interested in the outcome, but certain that no mobs will storm the
White House, demanding that their candidate be inaugurated, and by the end of
January a new President will be in the White House.
Cheers
Gary
From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:39:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Urgent Help Sought for Book Production
Hi all,
I received the below message completely out of the blue. I know no more
about it than just what it says. If anyone can help out Claudia, please
reply directly to her. Thanks.
Ciao,
Reid Trummel
-------------------------
Dear Mr.Trummel,
I'm the liable for the iconographical researches at White Star
Publisher, specialized in high quality historical and geographical books.
I'm presently working on a book dedicated to the history of Classic Cars
from 1945 to nowadays. One chapter of the work will be on three different
Healey models:
Austin Healey 100/4 (1953)
Austin Healey 100/6
Austin Healey 3000
The book will be of 304 pages, published in Spring 2001, translated in
English/French/German for a print run of 10,000 copies. I'm addressing to
you to ask for some informations about archives or photographers which/who
can provide VERY GOOD pictures of these cars, knowing that you have
collaborated to the Restoration Guide of Austin
Healey. Being my search extremely urgent, I would appreciate any little help
from you as soon as possible, having to collect all the material for the
book by the middle/end of November.
My address and numbers are:
WHITE STAR PUBLISHER
VIA CANDIDO SASSONE 22/24
13100 VERCELLI
ITALY
tel 00 39 0161 294203
fax 00 39 0161 393993
Awaiting for a kind reply from you I send you my best regards.
Claudia Zanera
White Star
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From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:51:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: CAUTION: LBC Content (was "Re: Healey for sale")
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:23:28 +0000, Peter Dzwig wrote:
>> I notice from one of the sports car mags that UJB 143 (genuine ex-works
rally car) is up for auction at Brooks Olympia, here in London on Dec. 4th.
Anybody fancy a nice Christmas present?
Peter
PS Before anybody asks.... it ISN'T DD300...the registration (UJB 143) was
used on a later car after the original was re-registered as DD300. <<
Isn't that Bill Bolton's Sebring car that sold for much too little at
auction just several months ago? If so, it seems that someone may be
preparing to try to cash in on their "buy."
Yes, Peter, I do fancy such a Christmas gift. Be a good chap and remember
to wrap it appropriately for me. Whatever can I get for you?
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
2 x BN2
2 x AN5
http://www.healey.org
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From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:26:23 -0800
Subject: wierd parts sale take 2
Ok, hat back on.
There was lots of interest in this stuff so I made a list. The deal is, the
sale starts on the 13th. Supplies of this stuff are very limited so it's
first come first served. If something strikes your fancy let me know ASAP.
I will collect orders from anyone who is interested and will enter them on a
first come first served basis at 6:00 on the 13th. If you want something
and I can't get it for you I will contact you and apologize.
Disclaimer: Some of this stuff has been sitting on the shelf for many many
years and is somewhat shelf worn. It's all perfectly good but don't be
surprized if there is a scratch on something. These items are
non-returnable unless they are mis-shipped or completely unusable.
God I feel like e-bay!
Here it is!
<<...OLE_Obj...>>
Jonathan Lane
Retail Sales
Moss Motors, Ltd.
(800) 235-6954 x3240
(805) 692-2525 - Fax
lanej@mossmotors.com
From Rmoment at aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:20:30 EST
Subject: NOS for sale
Now that I'm focussing on my 100, having sold my 3000, I am cleaning out all
my extra 3000 parts. All will fit a 3000 MK I. Most will also work for the
100-six and many the later 3000s. Below is a "topical" list. Contact me
directly if you're interested. The prices will be good.
1) Engine gasket sets : head, bottom, manifold
2) Transmission gasket sets, incl. O'dr
3) Carb HD6 rebuild kits; extra diaphragms
4) Steering and idler box bushes
5) Brake and clutch rebuild kits
6) 3000 valve spring set
7) Throw-out bearing
8) other individual gaskets -- e.g. exhaust manifold-to-down pipe, exhaust
manifold-to-heads
9) Body rubber bits
10) LUCAS dist. caps -- some excellent used, others NOS (these won't be
cheap)
Roger
From David Neale <dneale at pacbell.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 05:17:21 -0800
Subject: Re: Front Wing for BN7
I am posting a request for a steel front left hand wing, in good condition,
for my BN7 under restoration.
In addition, any suggestions for supply of appropriate nuts and bolts,
fasteners, etc.
Thanks in advance
DAVID NEALE
BN7 restoration
BJ8 running
From "David" <david_m at radiantsoundworks.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:00:39 -0500
Subject: More interior questions...
I have another question about interiors and carpets. Actually I have a
couple of questions.
In working on the rear panels, I am wondering if I should bite the bullet
and buy all new carpets, panel kits, and seat kits.
1) Who makes the most original carpets?
2) Who makes the most original panels and vinyl?
3) Now DON'T laugh too hard...but will it retain that original Healey
interior smell??
I'm not into having a perfect concours car....just a great looking and
running Austin Healey. But one thing that must be orginal is that interior
smell. I've spent many years in these cars...and it's just not a Healey if
it doesn't SMELL like a Healey. What's responsible for that...the
carpets....the vinyl....the glue? Or is it a combination? I know...some of
you guys brobably think I'm nuts....could be....but do you know the answer?
Thanks!
Dave
BJ8
TR4A
From "Keith Pennell" <pennell at whro.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:22:00 -0500
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
Dave,
Easy question. If you want the orig smell of an Austin Healey simply pour
about a quart and a half of 30 wt here and there around the cockpit. :)
Keith Pennell
>and it's just not a Healey if
> it doesn't SMELL like a Healey. What's responsible for that...the
> carpets....the vinyl....the glue? Or is it a combination> Thanks!
> Dave
>
> BJ8
> TR4A
From "Joe Durant" <jdurant at stlnet.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:59:54 -0600
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
LOL!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Pennell" <pennell@whro.net>
To: "David" <david_m@radiantsoundworks.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
>
> Dave,
>
> Easy question. If you want the orig smell of an Austin Healey simply pour
> about a quart and a half of 30 wt here and there around the cockpit. :)
>
> Keith Pennell
>
> >and it's just not a Healey if
> > it doesn't SMELL like a Healey. What's responsible for that...the
> > carpets....the vinyl....the glue? Or is it a combination> Thanks!
> > Dave
> >
> > BJ8
> > TR4A
From "Joe Durant" <jdurant at stlnet.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:00:55 -0600
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
Bean Oil would be nice!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Pennell" <pennell@whro.net>
To: "David" <david_m@radiantsoundworks.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
>
> Dave,
>
> Easy question. If you want the orig smell of an Austin Healey simply pour
> about a quart and a half of 30 wt here and there around the cockpit. :)
>
> Keith Pennell
>
> >and it's just not a Healey if
> > it doesn't SMELL like a Healey. What's responsible for that...the
> > carpets....the vinyl....the glue? Or is it a combination> Thanks!
> > Dave
> >
> > BJ8
> > TR4A
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:22:26 -0600
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
That Constitution has to be the greatest most comprehensive document ever
enacted in modern history. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
Cc: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think ofelection
>
> In a message dated 11/10/00 3:43:04 PM, pollpete@ix.netcom.com writes:
>
> <<
> The US is not alone. We're just lucky that this is only the third or
fourth
> time
> in 50 some elections this has happened. >>
>
> I can think of a lot of other countries where the Clinton equivalent would
> have called out the army, declared martial law, declared the electoral
> college system didn't represent the will of the people and was therefore
no
> longer binding, and announced that the Gore equivalent would become the
next
> president.
> Luckily, we have a nation with a confidence in the rule of law which is
> intensely interested in the outcome, but certain that no mobs will storm
the
> White House, demanding that their candidate be inaugurated, and by the end
of
> January a new President will be in the White House.
>
> Cheers
> Gary
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:32:04 -0600
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
Original interior Healey smell? You must mean leaking exhaust, burning oil
from the engine block, and mildew from the wet carpets. Very easy to
duplicate. Drive your Healey for a couple of hundred miles in the rain and
it doesn't even matter if the top is up or down. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <david_m@radiantsoundworks.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 9:00 PM
Subject: More interior questions...
>
> I have another question about interiors and carpets. Actually I have a
> couple of questions.
>
> In working on the rear panels, I am wondering if I should bite the bullet
> and buy all new carpets, panel kits, and seat kits.
>
> 1) Who makes the most original carpets?
>
> 2) Who makes the most original panels and vinyl?
>
> 3) Now DON'T laugh too hard...but will it retain that original Healey
> interior smell??
>
> I'm not into having a perfect concours car....just a great looking and
> running Austin Healey. But one thing that must be orginal is that interior
> smell. I've spent many years in these cars...and it's just not a Healey if
> it doesn't SMELL like a Healey. What's responsible for that...the
> carpets....the vinyl....the glue? Or is it a combination? I know...some of
> you guys brobably think I'm nuts....could be....but do you know the
answer?
>
> Thanks!
> Dave
>
> BJ8
> TR4A
From "Russ & Natalie Bamsey" <ia549 at worldchat.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 04:14:34 -0500
Subject: 1967 Half Penny Collective Coin
I have just discovered a collection of "Half Penny" coins dated 1967, with a
blue plastic folding cover with the emblem of "Royal Mint", along with "A
Souvenir From Britain's Royal Mint" in gold lettering on the blue folder.
The coin itself has an early picture of the Queen and a sail boat on the
reverse side. I thought it would be interesting as an donation to our club
(AHCSO), just for the British theme and year of minting.
If it is worth more as a prize in a fund raiser for our club because of the
resale value, I would like to know. If you have any further information of
interest or value of the coins, please e-mail me back.
Thanks for your help! Nat...
From Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:27:06 +0000
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
Nope,
I meant that the all difference seems to be going to be made by just 200 (I
understand now that its 300 as of about 6pm Washington Time last night) VOTERS.
As for the Electoral College I agree it would seem that nation-wide Gore got
more
votes than Bush, but your system can produce anomalies so be it, so can ours. We
have had minority governments in that sense on several occasions. It does seem
kinda daft that with Gore ahead in the EC that Bush could get to win because of
those two or three hundred voters.
Yes that is democracy and that is what it is all about, but there is a sense
from
the outside that there will be a new President, with all the power and influence
that he wields in the world, but with a minority of voter support and that he
will quite possibly be a lame duck. Moreover there is little or no chance as I
understand it that there would be a national re-vote nor would he be likely to
have a short term and go to the nation for a fresh mandate, which is what
normally happens over here in such circumstances.
Peter
WilKo@aol.com wrote:
> I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the Electoral
> College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a president (Al
> Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as president.
>
> Is that you meant Peter?
>
> Rick
> San Diego
>
> In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
>
> <<
> Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent to Florida
> begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am worried
> about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either guy can do
> the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that finally
> loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
>
> Tim Wallace
> '67 BJ8
> Fuquay-Varina, NC
>
> In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
>
> << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does look a real
> mess. A
> President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
> people?????????
>
> Peter Dzwig >>
From fred scheuble <ferddy at infree.com>
Date: 11 Nov 00 07:27:54 EST
Subject: Re: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
I have one wheel going past seven years and no change in the integrity of my
repair.
Michael Salter <magicare@home.com> wrote:
Hi Jay,
The following is our experiance on steering wheel repair.
We used bowling ball epoxy to repair steering wheels long before repros were
available. Our conclusion was that in the long term the repairs were a waste
of
time. It seems that the material used in the original manufacture of Healey
and
MG wheels shrinks very slowly as time passed. This is the cause of the cracks
appearing because the whole thing is moulded onto a steel ring which of
course
does not shrink. Although our repaired wheels looked great for a couple of
years
after that time however the cracks started to open up again and within a few
months we were not a lot better off.
I understand that the material that the currently avaiable wheels are made
from
is different from the original and does not shrink the same way.....time will
tell.
Hope this is helpful.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com wrote:
> sounds like a plan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Loftus [mailto:loftusdesign@home.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:49 PM
> To: Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com; 'healeys@autox.team.net'
> Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
>
> I'm also planning to use the POR putty to fix my stock steering wheel.
> The cracks and lifting plastic are in the area where the spokes meet the
> rim. I have heard that there are metal clips under the plastic that wrap
> around the metal core. The reason that the plastic cracks is that the
> metal clips are not fastened together and with stress and heat they can
> move. I've been told to remove the broken plastic, fasten the metal
> clips securely with rivets, sheet metal screws or equiv. and then repair
> the missing plastic with the POR type epoxy filler. Comments anyone?
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
> Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com wrote:
> >
> > POR sell a putty that is perfect for this use, easy to mold and sans and
> > I've used it on restoring a 36 old and a 67 mustang steering wheel,
> results
> > are excellent. One wheel is going on 5 years and still looks as good as
> when
> > I first did it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dickb@cheerful.com [mailto:dickb@cheerful.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 4:36 PM
> > To: Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com; austin healey list
> > Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > Eastwood has a Kit for exactly this purpose. I haven't used it (instead
I
> > covered my wheel with a black leather lace-on cover) but I would hope
> other
> > Listers would give you the benefit of their experience.
> >
> > Eastwood has a website.
> >
> > DickB
> >
> > ---- you wrote:
> > > I have a steering wheel for my '55 Alpine that is cracked and the
cracks
> > > have expanded. Like many other cars, the steering wheel has a metal
> ring
> > > running around the inside and it's covered by this plastic/bakelite
type
> > > stuff. I know there are services that will restore steering wheels for
> > > something over $300. Has anyone tackled this themselves? I was
> thinking
> > > something along the lines of spraying in the cracks with a Rustoleum
> type
> > > paint and then filling the cracks with bondo and sanding to regain the
> > > shape. But, I am also worried that the rust inside will continue to
> > > expand, causing the cracks to reappear and further separations. Anyone
> > > have any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jay
> > >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
From Krazy Kiwi <magicare at home.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:00:55 -0500
Subject: Re: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
Freds success prompts me to add that I also have some suspicions that the
temperature extremes in Canada may be a contributing factor in the cracking
problems that we encountered with the Healey wheels.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
www.precisionsportscar.com
fred scheuble wrote:
> I have one wheel going past seven years and no change in the integrity of my
> repair.
>
> Michael Salter <magicare@home.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jay,
> The following is our experiance on steering wheel repair.
>
> We used bowling ball epoxy to repair steering wheels long before repros were
> available. Our conclusion was that in the long term the repairs were a waste
> of
> time. It seems that the material used in the original manufacture of Healey
> and
> MG wheels shrinks very slowly as time passed. This is the cause of the cracks
> appearing because the whole thing is moulded onto a steel ring which of
> course
> does not shrink. Although our repaired wheels looked great for a couple of
> years
> after that time however the cracks started to open up again and within a few
> months we were not a lot better off.
> I understand that the material that the currently avaiable wheels are made
> from
> is different from the original and does not shrink the same way.....time will
> tell.
> Hope this is helpful.
> --
> Regards,
>
> Mike Salter
> http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com wrote:
>
> > sounds like a plan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Loftus [mailto:loftusdesign@home.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:49 PM
> > To: Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com; 'healeys@autox.team.net'
> > Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
> >
> > I'm also planning to use the POR putty to fix my stock steering wheel.
> > The cracks and lifting plastic are in the area where the spokes meet the
> > rim. I have heard that there are metal clips under the plastic that wrap
> > around the metal core. The reason that the plastic cracks is that the
> > metal clips are not fastened together and with stress and heat they can
> > move. I've been told to remove the broken plastic, fasten the metal
> > clips securely with rivets, sheet metal screws or equiv. and then repair
> > the missing plastic with the POR type epoxy filler. Comments anyone?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > John
> >
> > Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com wrote:
> > >
> > > POR sell a putty that is perfect for this use, easy to mold and sans and
> > > I've used it on restoring a 36 old and a 67 mustang steering wheel,
> > results
> > > are excellent. One wheel is going on 5 years and still looks as good as
> > when
> > > I first did it.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dickb@cheerful.com [mailto:dickb@cheerful.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 4:36 PM
> > > To: Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com; austin healey list
> > > Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > > Eastwood has a Kit for exactly this purpose. I haven't used it (instead
> I
> > > covered my wheel with a black leather lace-on cover) but I would hope
> > other
> > > Listers would give you the benefit of their experience.
> > >
> > > Eastwood has a website.
> > >
> > > DickB
> > >
> > > ---- you wrote:
> > > > I have a steering wheel for my '55 Alpine that is cracked and the
> cracks
> > > > have expanded. Like many other cars, the steering wheel has a metal
> > ring
> > > > running around the inside and it's covered by this plastic/bakelite
> type
> > > > stuff. I know there are services that will restore steering wheels for
> > > > something over $300. Has anyone tackled this themselves? I was
> > thinking
> > > > something along the lines of spraying in the cracks with a Rustoleum
> > type
> > > > paint and then filling the cracks with bondo and sanding to regain the
> > > > shape. But, I am also worried that the rust inside will continue to
> > > > expand, causing the cracks to reappear and further separations. Anyone
> > > > have any thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jay
> > > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
From Jerry Wall <jwbn6 at iopener.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 07:24:39 -0600
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
hi david-
my wife says that wonderful aroma is a mixture of petrol and castrol and the
extra benefit is after you get out of healey the aroma travels with you.
happy healeying,.
jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <david_m@radiantsoundworks.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: More interior questions...
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:00:39 -0500
I have another question about interiors and carpets. Actually I have a
couple of questions.
In working on the rear panels, I am wondering if I should bite the bullet
and buy all new carpets, panel kits, and seat kits.
1) Who makes the most original carpets?
2) Who makes the most original panels and vinyl?
3) Now DON'T laugh too hard...but will it retain that original Healey
interior smell??
I'm not into having a perfect concours car....just a great looking and
running Austin Healey. But one thing that must be orginal is that interior
smell. I've spent many years in these cars...and it's just not a Healey if
it doesn't SMELL like a Healey. What's responsible for that...the
carpets....the vinyl....the glue? Or is it a combination? I know...some of
you guys brobably think I'm nuts....could be....but do you know the answer?
Thanks!
Dave
BJ8
TR4A
From "David" <david_m at radiantsoundworks.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:39:23 -0500
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
Jerry....she could be right huh? I bet that's part of the "formula"...
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Wall <jwbn6@iopener.net>
To: <david_m@radiantsoundworks.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
> hi david-
>
> my wife says that wonderful aroma is a mixture of petrol and castrol and
the extra benefit is after you get out of healey the aroma travels with you.
>
> happy healeying,.
>
> jerry
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "David" <david_m@radiantsoundworks.com>
> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: More interior questions...
> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:00:39 -0500
>
>
> I have another question about interiors and carpets. Actually I have a
> couple of questions.
>
> In working on the rear panels, I am wondering if I should bite the bullet
> and buy all new carpets, panel kits, and seat kits.
>
> 1) Who makes the most original carpets?
>
> 2) Who makes the most original panels and vinyl?
>
> 3) Now DON'T laugh too hard...but will it retain that original Healey
> interior smell??
>
> I'm not into having a perfect concours car....just a great looking and
> running Austin Healey. But one thing that must be orginal is that interior
> smell. I've spent many years in these cars...and it's just not a Healey if
> it doesn't SMELL like a Healey. What's responsible for that...the
> carpets....the vinyl....the glue? Or is it a combination? I know...some of
> you guys brobably think I'm nuts....could be....but do you know the
answer?
>
> Thanks!
> Dave
>
> BJ8
> TR4A
From dwflagg at juno.com
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:26:05 -0500
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
Rick,
I think what we need to remember here is that, first, we are a Democratic
Republic not a true Democracy, and that the states select the president
by means of the Electoral College. The people in each state vote for
their candidate and his (or her) electoral votes. This was done to
insure, what is obvious in this election, that the "Left" coast and the
"Left" east coast do not determine how the rest of the country is
governed. All one has to do is look at a map of the states won by both
candidates. Having said that I feel that no matter who wins the popular
vote, and thus the electoral votes in Florida, the other candidate should
gracefully concede to the greater need of the country and people over
personal ambition and political aspirations. The greatness of our nation
is in our ability to come together in time of crisis. Oh, I feel Peter
was refering to the apparent narrow margin in the popular vote count in
Florida.
Happy Healeying,
Doug
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:14:28 EST WilKo@aol.com writes:
>
> I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the
> Electoral
> College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a
> president (Al
> Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as
> president.
>
> Is that you meant Peter?
>
> Rick
> San Diego
>
> In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
>
> <<
> Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent
> to Florida
> begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am
> worried
> about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either
> guy can do
> the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that
> finally
> loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
>
> Tim Wallace
> '67 BJ8
> Fuquay-Varina, NC
>
> In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
>
> << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does look
> a real
> mess. A
> President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
> people?????????
>
> Peter Dzwig >>
________________________________________________________________
From dwflagg at juno.com
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:55:53 -0500
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
Peter,
That is why we are told that everyone's vote counts. The election can be
determined by one vote, which I believe did happen once in our history.
If GW wins Florida then he would have the EC votes, no matter by how
small a margin. That is the nature of our Constitution. If we start to
tinker with it to accomodate the desires of those who don't like the
results until they get the results wanted, then we are dangerously close
to losing our Democratic Republic. The Rule of Law is greater than any
one man or his ambitions. Nixon came back after defeat to Kennedy and
became President. Either of the two currently seeking the office can do
the same. Let cooler heads prevail and show the rest of the world that we
are made of "The Right Stuff"!!
Happy Healeying,
Doug
On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:27:06 +0000 Peter Dzwig <pdzwig@summaventures.com>
writes:
>
> Nope,
>
> I meant that the all difference seems to be going to be made by just
> 200 (I
> understand now that its 300 as of about 6pm Washington Time last
> night) VOTERS.
>
> As for the Electoral College I agree it would seem that nation-wide
> Gore got more
> votes than Bush, but your system can produce anomalies so be it, so
> can ours. We
> have had minority governments in that sense on several occasions. It
> does seem
> kinda daft that with Gore ahead in the EC that Bush could get to win
> because of
> those two or three hundred voters.
>
> Yes that is democracy and that is what it is all about, but there is
> a sense from
> the outside that there will be a new President, with all the power
> and influence
> that he wields in the world, but with a minority of voter support
> and that he
> will quite possibly be a lame duck. Moreover there is little or no
> chance as I
> understand it that there would be a national re-vote nor would he be
> likely to
> have a short term and go to the nation for a fresh mandate, which is
> what
> normally happens over here in such circumstances.
>
>
> Peter
> WilKo@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the
> Electoral
> > College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a
> president (Al
> > Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as
> president.
> >
> > Is that you meant Peter?
> >
> > Rick
> > San Diego
> >
> > In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
> >
> > <<
> > Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent
> to Florida
> > begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am
> worried
> > about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either
> guy can do
> > the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that
> finally
> > loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
> >
> > Tim Wallace
> > '67 BJ8
> > Fuquay-Varina, NC
> >
> > In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
> >
> > << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does
> look a real
> > mess. A
> > President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
> > people?????????
> >
> > Peter Dzwig >>
________________________________________________________________
From Kit Henry <khenry at hmcltd.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 09:31:00 -0500
Subject: Engine Prices
We are asking the following for the 2 motors we previously posted
Tri Carb with carb set up complete $1000.00 you arrange shipping
3000 dual carb w/o carb Has gear box w/ overdrive $1000.00 you arrange
shipping. May separate $750.00/ $250.00
Might also consider trading gear box for a rebuild of the one in our car
if one of you trans guys is so inclined.
--
Kit Henry
Henry MotorSports Inc.
419-483-5064
http://www.henrymotorsports.com
E-Mail: khenry@hmcltd.net
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:30:50 EST
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
In a message dated 11/11/2000 4:31:07 AM Central Standard Time,
pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
>
> <<As for the Electoral College I agree it would seem that nation-wide Gore
> got more votes than Bush, >>
>
> But, gentlemen, the "members" can vote THEIR own way. In other words, a AG
> "EC Member" might choose to vote GB.
>
> Cheers............
From "Edrick Adams" <je.adams at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:58:47 -0500
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
Right on Doug! Your two posts are 'on the money' as one might say.
The only change I would support (if anyone cares) would be for the
individual states to require their EC delegates to vote with their
state majority.
-----Original Message-----
From: dwflagg@juno.com <dwflagg@juno.com>
To: pdzwig@summaventures.com <pdzwig@summaventures.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 11, 2000 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
election
>
>Peter,
>
>That is why we are told that everyone's vote counts. The election can
be
>determined by one vote, which I believe did happen once in our
history.
>If GW wins Florida then he would have the EC votes, no matter by how
>small a margin. That is the nature of our Constitution. If we start
to
>tinker with it to accomodate the desires of those who don't like the
>results until they get the results wanted, then we are dangerously
close
>to losing our Democratic Republic. The Rule of Law is greater than
any
>one man or his ambitions. Nixon came back after defeat to Kennedy and
>became President. Either of the two currently seeking the office can
do
>the same. Let cooler heads prevail and show the rest of the world
that we
>are made of "The Right Stuff"!!
>
>Happy Healeying,
>
>Doug
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:54:36 EST
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
In a message dated 11/10/00 6:57:57 PM, david_m@radiantsoundworks.com writes:
<< I've spent many years in these cars...and it's just not a Healey if
it doesn't SMELL like a Healey. What's responsible for that...the
carpets....the vinyl.... >>
I'm convinced that part of that smell comes from the old jute underlay, which
gets wet every time there's a light shower, and then holds the moisture. Of
course, there's the leaking oil being heated on the engine block, the exhaust
smell, and many other ingredients. Guess that if you want it to smell like an
old Healey, you're just going to have to leave all that stuff exactly where
you found it.
Cheers
gary
From Jerry Wall <jwbn6 at iopener.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:21:13 -0600
Subject: Re: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
an immaculate restoration on an original wheel does nothing for the two facts
of it being too large and too skinny for a good grip. moto-lita is a great
replacement. save your time and effort.
happy healeying,
jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: Krazy Kiwi <magicare@home.com>
Subject: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:00:55 -0500
Freds success prompts me to add that I also have some suspicions that the
temperature extremes in Canada may be a contributing factor in the cracking
problems that we encountered with the Healey wheels.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
www.precisionsportscar.com
fred scheuble wrote:
> I have one wheel going past seven years and no change in the integrity of my
> repair.
>
> Michael Salter <magicare@home.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jay,
> The following is our experiance on steering wheel repair.
>
> We used bowling ball epoxy to repair steering wheels long before repros were
> available. Our conclusion was that in the long term the repairs were a waste
> of
> time. It seems that the material used in the original manufacture of Healey
> and
> MG wheels shrinks very slowly as time passed. This is the cause of the cracks
> appearing because the whole thing is moulded onto a steel ring which of
> course
> does not shrink. Although our repaired wheels looked great for a couple of
> years
> after that time however the cracks started to open up again and within a few
> months we were not a lot better off.
> I understand that the material that the currently avaiable wheels are made
> from
> is different from the original and does not shrink the same way.....time will
> tell.
> Hope this is helpful.
> --
> Regards,
>
> Mike Salter
> http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com wrote:
>
> > sounds like a plan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Loftus [mailto:loftusdesign@home.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:49 PM
> > To: Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com; 'healeys@autox.team.net'
> > Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
> >
> > I'm also planning to use the POR putty to fix my stock steering wheel.
> > The cracks and lifting plastic are in the area where the spokes meet the
> > rim. I have heard that there are metal clips under the plastic that wrap
> > around the metal core. The reason that the plastic cracks is that the
> > metal clips are not fastened together and with stress and heat they can
> > move. I've been told to remove the broken plastic, fasten the metal
> > clips securely with rivets, sheet metal screws or equiv. and then repair
> > the missing plastic with the POR type epoxy filler. Comments anyone?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > John
> >
> > Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com wrote:
> > >
> > > POR sell a putty that is perfect for this use, easy to mold and sans and
> > > I've used it on restoring a 36 old and a 67 mustang steering wheel,
> > results
> > > are excellent. One wheel is going on 5 years and still looks as good as
> > when
> > > I first did it.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dickb@cheerful.com [mailto:dickb@cheerful.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 4:36 PM
> > > To: Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com; austin healey list
> > > Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > > Eastwood has a Kit for exactly this purpose. I haven't used it (instead
> I
> > > covered my wheel with a black leather lace-on cover) but I would hope
> > other
> > > Listers would give you the benefit of their experience.
> > >
> > > Eastwood has a website.
> > >
> > > DickB
> > >
> > > ---- you wrote:
> > > > I have a steering wheel for my '55 Alpine that is cracked and the
> cracks
> > > > have expanded. Like many other cars, the steering wheel has a metal
> > ring
> > > > running around the inside and it's covered by this plastic/bakelite
> type
> > > > stuff. I know there are services that will restore steering wheels for
> > > > something over $300. Has anyone tackled this themselves? I was
> > thinking
> > > > something along the lines of spraying in the cracks with a Rustoleum
> > type
> > > > paint and then filling the cracks with bondo and sanding to regain the
> > > > shape. But, I am also worried that the rust inside will continue to
> > > > expand, causing the cracks to reappear and further separations. Anyone
> > > > have any thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jay
> > > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:03:44 EST
Subject: Non-Healey content: election comments
For those of you with a reasonable understanding of statistics and
probability (a woefully undertaught branch of mathematics, though more
important than most of the rest in understanding reality)...
Given that people make mistakes in voting, machines can miscount, hand-counts
will be even more inaccurate, and so forth, an election this close means that
whoever goes into the White House in the end, we have no way of knowing if
that was the person who actually won the election.
At this stage, we might as well award the election on a single coin toss and
then use the next four years to determine if the person who "wins" is fit to
be president, and if his opponent is the best choice to run against him
again. With an equally evenly split congress, nothing much is going to be
changed dramatically, anyhow.
Cheers
Gary
From type79 at ix.netcom.com
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:14:52 -0800
Subject: Re: Non-Healey content: election comments
In a similar vein,
this is what happens when we run two weak and less-than-qualified candidates for
President.
The Presidency should not be used for on-the-job training.
It should be a most interesting four years.
jay fishbein
wallingford, ct USA
Editorgary@aol.com wrote:
> For those of you with a reasonable understanding of statistics and
> probability (a woefully undertaught branch of mathematics, though more
> important than most of the rest in understanding reality)...
>
> Given that people make mistakes in voting, machines can miscount, hand-counts
> will be even more inaccurate, and so forth, an election this close means that
> whoever goes into the White House in the end, we have no way of knowing if
> that was the person who actually won the election.
>
> At this stage, we might as well award the election on a single coin toss and
> then use the next four years to determine if the person who "wins" is fit to
> be president, and if his opponent is the best choice to run against him
> again. With an equally evenly split congress, nothing much is going to be
> changed dramatically, anyhow.
>
> Cheers
> Gary
From "Edrick Adams" <je.adams at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:30:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Negative Ground
me too Jim! Shouldn't we restrict them to driving off-road, maybe
with farm tractors?
Ed A
-----Original Message-----
From: James Sailer <sailer@srv.net>
Subject: Re: Negative Ground
(elk and moose at high speeds in LBCs give me the
>willies)........
>
>Jim Sailer 66 BJ8
From William Moyer <William.Moyer at millersv.edu>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:44:15 -0500
Subject: RE: More interior questions...
Guess that if you want it to smell
like an
old Healey, you're just going to have to leave all that stuff exactly
where
you found it.
< Gary, you mean this isn't in the concours standards???? I believe you
fellows have missed a category! Time to hit the books.
Bill Moyer, BJ7
From Bill Katz <bkatz at handsonresearch.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:13:55 -0800
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
You forgot the rodent droppings!
--------------------
At 08:54 AM 11/11/2000 , you wrote:
>In a message dated 11/10/00 6:57:57 PM, david_m@radiantsoundworks.com writes:
>
><< I've spent many years in these cars...and it's just not a Healey if
>it doesn't SMELL like a Healey. What's responsible for that...the
>carpets....the vinyl.... >>
>
>I'm convinced that part of that smell comes from the old jute underlay, which
>gets wet every time there's a light shower, and then holds the moisture. Of
>course, there's the leaking oil being heated on the engine block, the exhaust
>smell, and many other ingredients. Guess that if you want it to smell like an
>old Healey, you're just going to have to leave all that stuff exactly where
>you found it.
>
>Cheers
>gary
From Terry Blubaugh <tblubaugh at earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:58:14 -0800
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
But Ray, haven't you heard . . . . . it doesn't rain in Southern California.
(But your red carpet sure fades quickly).
Terry Blubaugh
ray feehan wrote:
> Original interior Healey smell? You must mean leaking exhaust, burning oil
> from the engine block, and mildew from the wet carpets. Very easy to
> duplicate. Drive your Healey for a couple of hundred miles in the rain and
> it doesn't even matter if the top is up or down. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David" <david_m@radiantsoundworks.com>
> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 9:00 PM
> Subject: More interior questions...
>
> >
> > I have another question about interiors and carpets. Actually I have a
> > couple of questions.
> >
> > In working on the rear panels, I am wondering if I should bite the bullet
> > and buy all new carpets, panel kits, and seat kits.
> >
> > 1) Who makes the most original carpets?
> >
> > 2) Who makes the most original panels and vinyl?
> >
> > 3) Now DON'T laugh too hard...but will it retain that original Healey
> > interior smell??
> >
> > I'm not into having a perfect concours car....just a great looking and
> > running Austin Healey. But one thing that must be orginal is that interior
> > smell. I've spent many years in these cars...and it's just not a Healey if
> > it doesn't SMELL like a Healey. What's responsible for that...the
> > carpets....the vinyl....the glue? Or is it a combination? I know...some of
> > you guys brobably think I'm nuts....could be....but do you know the
> answer?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Dave
> >
> > BJ8
> > TR4A
From "JISah102" <ah102 at home.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 14:50:59 -0500
Subject: Re: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
Well, here's an opposing view......a new Civic or Neon rides better, handles
better, and goes faster and costs less than a big Healey. So Jay, if you
like the character of the big skinny wheel (as I do), then go for it.
just my .02
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Wall <jwbn6@iopener.net>
To: <magicare@home.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
>
> an immaculate restoration on an original wheel does nothing for the two
facts of it being too large and too skinny for a good grip. moto-lita is a
great replacement. save your time and effort.
From ynotink <ynotink at qwest.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:11:36 -0700
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
I've heard a lot of speculation about doing away with the electoral
college, and
senator elect "Hillary" is even making noise about sponsoring the
legislation to
do just that. I doubt if it would be an issue to her if the roles were reversed.
My High school days are a few years in the past. They occurred back in
the days
before there was a Department of Education, when students, in order to
graduate, were required to be able to read their diplomas and to have at
least a
nodding acquaintance with state, national and world history as well as civics.
(You know I don't think I would know how to put a condom on a banana, but
then I've never wanted to.)
As I recall the original purpose of the electoral college was to allow
for an
orderly polling and selection process in a large, sparsely populated
nation with only
rudimentary and primitive communications and transportation systems. The
electors were sent to the capitol as elected representatives for the sole
specific purpose of electing a President.
In addition, our government was set up to try to balance the conflicting
interests of states having large urban populations as opposed to those having
sparse rural populations. That's why each state has two senators
regardless of
population and few or numerous congressmen based on the voting
population. It
turns out the electoral college, based on the same proportion, serves
well the
purpose of choosing a chief executive.
If you don't believe there are basic philosophical differences between these
geographic regions, a glance at the electoral vote maps being flashed on your
television all week shows that the vast majority of Gore's support is in states
on the seacoasts while Bush won in all but a couple of the states in between.
(The elitists call it "Flyover Country".) Incidentally I see that Bush
now has a
17 vote lead in New Mexico and, so nobody is misled as to my preference,
I am
praying for the first time in years that my vote is the one that
delivers the
state to him.
As for the popular vote, I don't give a damn who has the best buns or who
Barbara Streisand supports (I understand she is supposed to be a great thespian,
but I think her most impressive roll is when she portrays a person who actually
had an original thought.) The opinions of celebrated intellectual
wannabes has
an impact totally out of proportion to their actual value, especially in the
megalopoly where the stars are gods and the people are sheep.
Ninety percent of the U.S. population lives within about 100 miles of
the ocean. To
base the entire electoral process on a this miniscule geographic area
(as would
occur in a pure democracy) and call that "THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE "
would be to
disenfranchise the entire population of the nation between Pennsylvania and
California. (And to think the Dems are having colon spasms about 3000
senile old
ladies in Florida!) In former days this was called "Taxation without
representation" . Maybe some of our erstwhile colonial overlords will recognize
the term.
You will pardon me if I don't lose sleep over the fact that Bill Daley (If
anyone would recognize vote fraud!...) has not yet found enough dead
voters in
Florida to get Al elected.
You may have a problem with the electoral college system, but for the
time being
it is the law as prescribed by the constitution and I don't recall
hearing that
that document has yet been repealed. On January 20th one man will stand
on the
steps of the capitol and swear to "support, protect and defend the constitution
..." Nowhere in that oath will you find the words "fairness", "democracy",
"Democrat", "will of the people", "Clinton legacy" or "trial lawyer"
The mere
fact that Gore has threatened to attempt to overturn the election in the courts,
along with his stated belief that the constitution is "a living
document" (read:
"silly putty") indicates to me that he cannot take this oath in good
faith and as
such is unfit for the office.
Sorry to waste so much band width, but this has been building up in me
and I
had to vent and you were unfortunate enough to be the one to bring it up.
Bill (never voting for another Democrat) Lawrence
Albuquerque, NM
WilKo@aol.com wrote:
> I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the Electoral
> College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a president (Al
> Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as president.
>
> Is that you meant Peter?
>
> Rick
> San Diego
>
> In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
>
> <<
> Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent to Florida
> begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am worried
> about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either guy can do
> the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that finally
> loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
>
> Tim Wallace
> '67 BJ8
> Fuquay-Varina, NC
>
> In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
>
> << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does look a real
> mess. A
> President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
> people?????????
>
> Peter Dzwig >>
From ynotink <ynotink at qwest.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:40:41 -0700
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
In point of fact, the winning candidate will have approximately 49% of the vote.
Clinton's 1992 margin (by which he claimed a "mandate") was 43%. and in 1994 it
was
49% for a total voter turnout which was only about 80% of Tuesday's. What that
means
is that either of these guys has more popular support than Clinton ever did.
As far as future governance Bush would probably have the better chance of
affecting
any type of change because his party retained control, albeit tenuous, of both
houses of congress.
In order to implement his grandiose increases in social programs Gore will have
to
face down a hostile congress and I doubt if he will be as skilled Clinton in
the use
of the bully (and I do mean bully) pulpit. Therefore, no matter who wins in the
end
I don't think we will see any sweeping changes. Too bad, I was sure looking
forward
to a tax break. It sure is amazing how much the middle class can shrink when the
politicians start "targeting" it for a tax break.
Bill Lawrence
Peter Dzwig wrote:
> Nope,
>
> I meant that the all difference seems to be going to be made by just 200 (I
> understand now that its 300 as of about 6pm Washington Time last night)
>VOTERS.
>
> As for the Electoral College I agree it would seem that nation-wide Gore got
>more
> votes than Bush, but your system can produce anomalies so be it, so can ours.
>We
> have had minority governments in that sense on several occasions. It does seem
> kinda daft that with Gore ahead in the EC that Bush could get to win because
>of
> those two or three hundred voters.
>
> Yes that is democracy and that is what it is all about, but there is a sense
>from
> the outside that there will be a new President, with all the power and
>influence
> that he wields in the world, but with a minority of voter support and that he
> will quite possibly be a lame duck. Moreover there is little or no chance as I
> understand it that there would be a national re-vote nor would he be likely to
> have a short term and go to the nation for a fresh mandate, which is what
> normally happens over here in such circumstances.
>
> Peter
> WilKo@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the Electoral
> > College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a president (Al
> > Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as president.
> >
> > Is that you meant Peter?
> >
> > Rick
> > San Diego
> >
> > In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
> >
> > <<
> > Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent to
>Florida
> > begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am worried
> > about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either guy can do
> > the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that finally
> > loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
> >
> > Tim Wallace
> > '67 BJ8
> > Fuquay-Varina, NC
> >
> > In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
> >
> > << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does look a real
> > mess. A
> > President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
> > people?????????
> >
> > Peter Dzwig >>
From GMari58175 at aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:58:06 EST
Subject: Re: Bugeye Blueprints?
Greetings Scott and list,
Depending on what the teenage enthusiast is specifically looking for, I might
offer the following info.
1. Moss sells for a few coins a great pencil drawing cutaway of the bugeye.
Reprinted from a vintage magazine. Have several hanging along the wall and
they are very accurate and highly detailed. That one shows the mechanicals.
No dimensions.
2. I purchased a number of years ago a copy of of the bugeye blue prints
that were drawn supposedly when Healey & Co. were designing the car. Made a
few copies of this and the drawing does include dimensions.
3. Found in an old blue print car book the frame only diagram for the MKII
and midget MKI frame. This includes the structural framinging members only
with dimensions etc. All are pretty cool but what good they are for
practical analysis is another matter.
Regards,
george marinos
In a message dated 11/9/2000 11:22:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Trmgafun@aol.com writes:
>
> I have been in contact with a fifteen year old A-H Sprite enthusiast who
> has
> an interest in locating mechanical blueprints for the Bugeye Sprite. I've
> never seen any reproductions available, but if anyone happens to know of
> any,
> please contact me.
>
> Much thanks,
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:07:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
To The List
Some of you practically melted my computer six weeks ago for posting a warning
about unsafe Firestone tires - which warning has been proven true in spades.
Crying that Tires weren't proper subjects of discussion on this List - about as
idiotic a point-of-view that I could imagine.
In the past 48 hours I have seen at least three Blatant Commercial Offerings,
by Commercial Enterprises - not owners of LBCs, Notwithstanding our supposed
rules against commercial advertising. Where are the complaints?
NOW - I have to wallow in this clap-trap - which certainly is not even remotely
about Healeys or any other British cars - From A Poster Who Has Never Before
Posted Here - puporting to teach us what the Electoral College is all about -
and this from a location where they don't even know how to count I guess.
Mr. YNOTINK, why don't you correspond with your fellow wackos at your regular
location - FreeRepublic or one of the AOL chatrooms. (And you might also spend
a few hours reading the Federalist Papers and Constitutional history, you don't
know what you're talking about)
DickB
---- you wrote:
>
> I've heard a lot of speculation about doing away with the electoral
> college, and
> senator elect "Hillary" is even making noise about sponsoring the
> legislation to
> do just that. I doubt if it would be an issue to her if the roles were
>reversed.
>
> My High school days are a few years in the past. They occurred back in
> the days
> before there was a Department of Education, when students, in order to
> graduate, were required to be able to read their diplomas and to have at
> least a
> nodding acquaintance with state, national and world history as well as civics.
> (You know I don't think I would know how to put a condom on a banana, but
> then I've never wanted to.)
>
> As I recall the original purpose of the electoral college was to allow
> for an
> orderly polling and selection process in a large, sparsely populated
> nation with only
> rudimentary and primitive communications and transportation systems. The
> electors were sent to the capitol as elected representatives for the sole
> specific purpose of electing a President.
>
> In addition, our government was set up to try to balance the conflicting
> interests of states having large urban populations as opposed to those having
> sparse rural populations. That's why each state has two senators
> regardless of
> population and few or numerous congressmen based on the voting
> population. It
> turns out the electoral college, based on the same proportion, serves
> well the
> purpose of choosing a chief executive.
>
> If you don't believe there are basic philosophical differences between these
> geographic regions, a glance at the electoral vote maps being flashed on your
> television all week shows that the vast majority of Gore's support is in
>states
> on the seacoasts while Bush won in all but a couple of the states in between.
> (The elitists call it "Flyover Country".) Incidentally I see that Bush
> now has a
> 17 vote lead in New Mexico and, so nobody is misled as to my preference,
> I am
> praying for the first time in years that my vote is the one that
> delivers the
> state to him.
>
> As for the popular vote, I don't give a damn who has the best buns or who
> Barbara Streisand supports (I understand she is supposed to be a great
>thespian,
> but I think her most impressive roll is when she portrays a person who
>actually
> had an original thought.) The opinions of celebrated intellectual
> wannabes has
> an impact totally out of proportion to their actual value, especially in the
> megalopoly where the stars are gods and the people are sheep.
>
> Ninety percent of the U.S. population lives within about 100 miles of
> the ocean. To
> base the entire electoral process on a this miniscule geographic area
> (as would
> occur in a pure democracy) and call that "THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE "
> would be to
> disenfranchise the entire population of the nation between Pennsylvania and
> California. (And to think the Dems are having colon spasms about 3000
> senile old
> ladies in Florida!) In former days this was called "Taxation without
> representation" . Maybe some of our erstwhile colonial overlords will
>recognize
> the term.
>
> You will pardon me if I don't lose sleep over the fact that Bill Daley (If
> anyone would recognize vote fraud!...) has not yet found enough dead
> voters in
> Florida to get Al elected.
>
> You may have a problem with the electoral college system, but for the
> time being
> it is the law as prescribed by the constitution and I don't recall
> hearing that
> that document has yet been repealed. On January 20th one man will stand
> on the
> steps of the capitol and swear to "support, protect and defend the
>constitution
> ...." Nowhere in that oath will you find the words "fairness", "democracy",
> "Democrat", "will of the people", "Clinton legacy" or "trial lawyer"
> The mere
> fact that Gore has threatened to attempt to overturn the election in the
>courts,
> along with his stated belief that the constitution is "a living
> document" (read:
> "silly putty") indicates to me that he cannot take this oath in good
> faith and as
> such is unfit for the office.
>
> Sorry to waste so much band width, but this has been building up in me
> and I
> had to vent and you were unfortunate enough to be the one to bring it up.
>
>
> Bill (never voting for another Democrat) Lawrence
> Albuquerque, NM
>
>
> WilKo@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the Electoral
> > College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a president (Al
> > Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as president.
> >
> > Is that you meant Peter?
> >
> > Rick
> > San Diego
> >
> > In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
> >
> > <<
> > Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent to
>Florida
> > begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am worried
> > about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either guy can do
> > the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that finally
> > loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
> >
> > Tim Wallace
> > '67 BJ8
> > Fuquay-Varina, NC
> >
> > In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
> >
> > << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does look a real
> > mess. A
> > President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
> > people?????????
> >
> > Peter Dzwig >>
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
From "Stephen Graham" <stepheng48 at home.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:14:05 -0800
Subject: Gas problem
Good morning List.
I have a 62 BT 7, with 2 carbs. The carbs have been rubilt, I have new gas
lines and a new CORRECT pump, and the car also has gas.
When I start the car, it runs fine for 3-5 minutes then putters out. I can
wait a few minutes and it will start up again only to fizzle out again in 1-20
seconds.
I hace checked the lines and gas is geting the tha carbs, and into the
floats.
Any suggestions?
Stephen
Detroit
From ynotink <ynotink at qwest.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 14:14:47 -0700
Subject: Re: Non-Healey content: election comments
Who is strong enough and who is qualified for the job and how would we ever
know?
It isn't like there are auditions. We can't look to experience because there is
no
other job like it. The Vice-Presidency is more like an 8 year, all expense paid
vacation. Partisans on either side can look at the opposing candidate and
attempt
to shake the electorate's faith in him for some characteristic or other but,
they
have to be careful not to illuminate their own candidate's faults in the
process.
For example: The Gore campaign started out trying to instill doubt in Mr. Bush's
intellect but had to retreat when opposing pundits pointed out that Gore is no
super genius (except in his own mind), had lower college entrance scores than
Bush
and had flunked out of two graduate schools. The talk show circuit evidently
didn't
get the word to cool it and ran with the premise so that when Bush showed up at
the
debates the mere fact that he could hold a coherent conversation won him votes.
I don't think anyone has a handle on what the qualifications are for this job
so I
predict that if Bush wins 51% of the population will continue to view him as a
bumbling, illiterate moron despite any evidence to the contrary. On the other
hand
if Gore wins 51% of the population (myself included) will continue to view him
as
Bill Clinton's sleazy, arrogant, quasi-criminal henchman despite any evidence
(which hasn't surfaced in 8 years) to the contrary.
No, we're not partisan in this country.
Bill Lawrence
type79@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> In a similar vein,
>
> this is what happens when we run two weak and less-than-qualified candidates
>for
> President.
>
> The Presidency should not be used for on-the-job training.
>
> It should be a most interesting four years.
>
> jay fishbein
> wallingford, ct USA
>
> Editorgary@aol.com wrote:
>
> > For those of you with a reasonable understanding of statistics and
> > probability (a woefully undertaught branch of mathematics, though more
> > important than most of the rest in understanding reality)...
> >
> > Given that people make mistakes in voting, machines can miscount,
>hand-counts
> > will be even more inaccurate, and so forth, an election this close means
>that
> > whoever goes into the White House in the end, we have no way of knowing if
> > that was the person who actually won the election.
> >
> > At this stage, we might as well award the election on a single coin toss and
> > then use the next four years to determine if the person who "wins" is fit to
> > be president, and if his opponent is the best choice to run against him
> > again. With an equally evenly split congress, nothing much is going to be
> > changed dramatically, anyhow.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Gary
From "Stephen Graham" <stepheng48 at home.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:31:07 -0800
Subject: Healey Art
Interesting link for collectors of Healey Art
http://www.timeframed.com/ClassicMachines.asp
From Rohan Marr <rohan at marketocracy.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 14:39:00 -0700
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
I have to say that this conversation about the elections has been
both intelligent and fascinating for me as an Aussie living here in
the US .. I have shown a few people some of the postings saying 'see
these Healey Guys are pretty in touch and not stupid" so i have found
this topic refreshing, and as a group of very different people with a
common point of passion I think it would be a real pity to limit our
conversation to that one topic.
After having said that and already ducking for the onslaught ...
there are some conversations better held off list ... this one has
been enlightening for me and hearing other foreign views of the US
affairs is extremely worthwhile since we do not live in a vacuum.
OK lemme haveit (offlist for the slander dick)
Rohan
BN4
At 4:07 PM -0500 11/11/00, dickb@cheerful.com wrote:
>To The List
>
>Some of you practically melted my computer six weeks ago for
>posting a warning about unsafe Firestone tires - which warning has
>been proven true in spades. Crying that Tires weren't proper
>subjects of discussion on this List - about as idiotic a
>point-of-view that I could imagine.
>
>In the past 48 hours I have seen at least three Blatant Commercial
>Offerings, by Commercial Enterprises - not owners of LBCs,
>Notwithstanding our supposed rules against commercial advertising.
>Where are the complaints?
>
>NOW - I have to wallow in this clap-trap - which certainly is not
>even remotely about Healeys or any other British cars - From A
>Poster Who Has Never Before Posted Here - puporting to teach us what
>the Electoral College is all about - and this from a location where
>they don't even know how to count I guess.
>
>Mr. YNOTINK, why don't you correspond with your fellow wackos at
>your regular location - FreeRepublic or one of the AOL chatrooms.
>(And you might also spend a few hours reading the Federalist Papers
>and Constitutional history, you don't know what you're talking about)
>
>DickB
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:03:27 -0600
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
6 weeks and you're still hurting? C'mon Dick warm up that delete button.
RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: <dickb@cheerful.com>
To: "ynotink" <ynotink@qwest.net>; "austin healey list"
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think ofelection
>
> To The List
>
> Some of you practically melted my computer six weeks ago for posting a
warning about unsafe Firestone tires - which warning has been proven true in
spades. Crying that Tires weren't proper subjects of discussion on this
List - about as idiotic a point-of-view that I could imagine.
>
> In the past 48 hours I have seen at least three Blatant Commercial
Offerings, by Commercial Enterprises - not owners of LBCs, Notwithstanding
our supposed rules against commercial advertising. Where are the
complaints?
>
> NOW - I have to wallow in this clap-trap - which certainly is not even
remotely about Healeys or any other British cars - From A Poster Who Has
Never Before Posted Here - puporting to teach us what the Electoral College
is all about - and this from a location where they don't even know how to
count I guess.
>
> Mr. YNOTINK, why don't you correspond with your fellow wackos at your
regular location - FreeRepublic or one of the AOL chatrooms. (And you might
also spend a few hours reading the Federalist Papers and Constitutional
history, you don't know what you're talking about)
>
> DickB
>
>
>
> ---- you wrote:
> >
> > I've heard a lot of speculation about doing away with the electoral
> > college, and
> > senator elect "Hillary" is even making noise about sponsoring the
> > legislation to
> > do just that. I doubt if it would be an issue to her if the roles were
reversed.
> >
> > My High school days are a few years in the past. They occurred back in
> > the days
> > before there was a Department of Education, when students, in order to
> > graduate, were required to be able to read their diplomas and to have at
> > least a
> > nodding acquaintance with state, national and world history as well as
civics.
> > (You know I don't think I would know how to put a condom on a banana,
but
> > then I've never wanted to.)
> >
> > As I recall the original purpose of the electoral college was to allow
> > for an
> > orderly polling and selection process in a large, sparsely populated
> > nation with only
> > rudimentary and primitive communications and transportation systems. The
> > electors were sent to the capitol as elected representatives for the
sole
> > specific purpose of electing a President.
> >
> > In addition, our government was set up to try to balance the conflicting
> > interests of states having large urban populations as opposed to those
having
> > sparse rural populations. That's why each state has two senators
> > regardless of
> > population and few or numerous congressmen based on the voting
> > population. It
> > turns out the electoral college, based on the same proportion, serves
> > well the
> > purpose of choosing a chief executive.
> >
> > If you don't believe there are basic philosophical differences between
these
> > geographic regions, a glance at the electoral vote maps being flashed on
your
> > television all week shows that the vast majority of Gore's support is in
states
> > on the seacoasts while Bush won in all but a couple of the states in
between.
> > (The elitists call it "Flyover Country".) Incidentally I see that Bush
> > now has a
> > 17 vote lead in New Mexico and, so nobody is misled as to my preference,
> > I am
> > praying for the first time in years that my vote is the one that
> > delivers the
> > state to him.
> >
> > As for the popular vote, I don't give a damn who has the best buns or
who
> > Barbara Streisand supports (I understand she is supposed to be a great
thespian,
> > but I think her most impressive roll is when she portrays a person who
actually
> > had an original thought.) The opinions of celebrated intellectual
> > wannabes has
> > an impact totally out of proportion to their actual value, especially in
the
> > megalopoly where the stars are gods and the people are sheep.
> >
> > Ninety percent of the U.S. population lives within about 100 miles of
> > the ocean. To
> > base the entire electoral process on a this miniscule geographic area
> > (as would
> > occur in a pure democracy) and call that "THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE "
> > would be to
> > disenfranchise the entire population of the nation between Pennsylvania
and
> > California. (And to think the Dems are having colon spasms about 3000
> > senile old
> > ladies in Florida!) In former days this was called "Taxation without
> > representation" . Maybe some of our erstwhile colonial overlords will
recognize
> > the term.
> >
> > You will pardon me if I don't lose sleep over the fact that Bill Daley
(If
> > anyone would recognize vote fraud!...) has not yet found enough dead
> > voters in
> > Florida to get Al elected.
> >
> > You may have a problem with the electoral college system, but for the
> > time being
> > it is the law as prescribed by the constitution and I don't recall
> > hearing that
> > that document has yet been repealed. On January 20th one man will stand
> > on the
> > steps of the capitol and swear to "support, protect and defend the
constitution
> > ...." Nowhere in that oath will you find the words "fairness",
"democracy",
> > "Democrat", "will of the people", "Clinton legacy" or "trial lawyer"
> > The mere
> > fact that Gore has threatened to attempt to overturn the election in the
courts,
> > along with his stated belief that the constitution is "a living
> > document" (read:
> > "silly putty") indicates to me that he cannot take this oath in good
> > faith and as
> > such is unfit for the office.
> >
> > Sorry to waste so much band width, but this has been building up in me
> > and I
> > had to vent and you were unfortunate enough to be the one to bring it
up.
> >
> >
> > Bill (never voting for another Democrat) Lawrence
> > Albuquerque, NM
> >
> >
> > WilKo@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the
Electoral
> > > College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a president
(Al
> > > Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as
president.
> > >
> > > Is that you meant Peter?
> > >
> > > Rick
> > > San Diego
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
> > >
> > > <<
> > > Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent to
Florida
> > > begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am
worried
> > > about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either guy
can do
> > > the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that
finally
> > > loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
> > >
> > > Tim Wallace
> > > '67 BJ8
> > > Fuquay-Varina, NC
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
> > >
> > > << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does look a
real
> > > mess. A
> > > President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
> > > people?????????
> > >
> > > Peter Dzwig >>
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:05:00 -0600
Subject: Re: Gas problem
You forgot to install the third carb. Ray 62BT7 "Tri-Carb".
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Graham" <stepheng48@home.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 6:14 PM
Subject: Gas problem
>
> Good morning List.
>
> I have a 62 BT 7, with 2 carbs. The carbs have been rubilt, I have new gas
> lines and a new CORRECT pump, and the car also has gas.
>
> When I start the car, it runs fine for 3-5 minutes then putters out. I can
> wait a few minutes and it will start up again only to fizzle out again in
1-20
> seconds.
>
> I hace checked the lines and gas is geting the tha carbs, and into the
> floats.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Stephen
>
> Detroit
From "Rich C" <rich.chrysler at sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:10:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
> Freds success prompts me to add that I also have some suspicions that the
> temperature extremes in Canada may be a contributing factor in the
cracking
> problems that we encountered with the Healey wheels.
A further thought to this thread...I wonder if the cracking problem is
because the old plastic shrinks, or rather might it be that the steel core
expands and contracts in the heat and cold, and the older plastics can't
follow, so crack instead.
I understand that the repros, being made of a modern plastic compound, are
flexible enought to follow instead of cracking.
Perhaps repairs made of something stable, yet strong and able to stand the
expansion and contraction is the answer. Maybe some of the repair success
stories are because of the material used for the repairs.
What exactly was the material used in the successful instances?
Rich Chrysler
From "Rich C" <rich.chrysler at sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:18:18 -0500
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
All joking aside, there is a specific smell to the early cars, especially
the Hundred, which seems to be unique.
A combination of Conolly hides and dyes, the jute and tarpaper carpet
underlays, the oiled and treated wood panels and seat track spacers, and the
old glues used, all contribute to the smell.
The later cars also have a similar smell, but it's somewhat different. maybe
they went to different glues as time went by.
Hmmm, maybe someone should bottle and sell the smells. <g>
Rich Chrysler
> > 3) Now DON'T laugh too hard...but will it retain that original Healey
> > interior smell??
> >
> > I'm not into having a perfect concours car....just a great looking and
> > running Austin Healey. But one thing that must be orginal is that
interior
> > smell. I've spent many years in these cars...and it's just not a Healey
if
> > it doesn't SMELL like a Healey. What's responsible for that...the
> > carpets....the vinyl....the glue? Or is it a combination? I know...some
of
> > you guys brobably think I'm nuts....could be....but do you know the
> answer?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Dave
> >
> > BJ8
> > TR4A
From "Rich C" <rich.chrysler at sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:23:49 -0500
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
Could everyone pleeeease get off this political stuff and get on with Healey
content?
I live in a country other than the U.S.A., (Canada) and though we will be
having our own federal election very soon, I for one promise to keep our
political chit chat off this list.
Rich Chrysler
From "Rich C" <rich.chrysler at sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:41:43 -0500
Subject: Non related Subject for Lists
Please excuse this unrelated note to this list, but:
To all veterans everywhere in the free world,
We remember, and we thank you.
Rich Chrysler
From "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:30:33 -0600
Subject: Re: Non-Healey content: election comments
You know I haven't got excited about this until now... I am just insulted
that our current Vice President has to have three votes to get the job
done... what are we going to do next flip a Coin?
I dont want to hear the repercusions from this so I won't answer any E-mail
on the subject... I am not a Supporter of either canidate... I didn't give
money to either one... I just gave my vote...
I left the Military after 20yrs because I couldn't support my Commander in
Cheif... I am damn glad I did as I don't think it's going to get any
better...
This whole thing is just utter garbage.... and the Press is just hamming the
whole deal to the moon... wish I could hit the delete key on the TV...
actually it's simply caused me just to turn it off.... Someone give me a
call and tell me who won six months from now... Maybe I will care... I doubt
it...
Keith Turk ( so much for accepting the fact that you LOST.... and moving
on.... )
----- Original Message -----
From: "ynotink" <ynotink@qwest.net>
To: <type79@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Non-Healey content: election comments
>
> Who is strong enough and who is qualified for the job and how would we
ever know?
> It isn't like there are auditions. We can't look to experience because
there is no
> other job like it. The Vice-Presidency is more like an 8 year, all expense
paid
> vacation. Partisans on either side can look at the opposing candidate and
attempt
> to shake the electorate's faith in him for some characteristic or other
but, they
> have to be careful not to illuminate their own candidate's faults in the
process.
> For example: The Gore campaign started out trying to instill doubt in Mr.
Bush's
> intellect but had to retreat when opposing pundits pointed out that Gore
is no
> super genius (except in his own mind), had lower college entrance scores
than Bush
> and had flunked out of two graduate schools. The talk show circuit
evidently didn't
> get the word to cool it and ran with the premise so that when Bush showed
up at the
> debates the mere fact that he could hold a coherent conversation won him
votes.
>
> I don't think anyone has a handle on what the qualifications are for this
job so I
> predict that if Bush wins 51% of the population will continue to view him
as a
> bumbling, illiterate moron despite any evidence to the contrary. On the
other hand
> if Gore wins 51% of the population (myself included) will continue to view
him as
> Bill Clinton's sleazy, arrogant, quasi-criminal henchman despite any
evidence
> (which hasn't surfaced in 8 years) to the contrary.
>
> No, we're not partisan in this country.
>
>
> Bill Lawrence
>
> type79@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
> > In a similar vein,
> >
> > this is what happens when we run two weak and less-than-qualified
candidates for
> > President.
> >
> > The Presidency should not be used for on-the-job training.
> >
> > It should be a most interesting four years.
> >
> > jay fishbein
> > wallingford, ct USA
> >
> > Editorgary@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > For those of you with a reasonable understanding of statistics and
> > > probability (a woefully undertaught branch of mathematics, though more
> > > important than most of the rest in understanding reality)...
> > >
> > > Given that people make mistakes in voting, machines can miscount,
hand-counts
> > > will be even more inaccurate, and so forth, an election this close
means that
> > > whoever goes into the White House in the end, we have no way of
knowing if
> > > that was the person who actually won the election.
> > >
> > > At this stage, we might as well award the election on a single coin
toss and
> > > then use the next four years to determine if the person who "wins" is
fit to
> > > be president, and if his opponent is the best choice to run against
him
> > > again. With an equally evenly split congress, nothing much is going
to be
> > > changed dramatically, anyhow.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Gary
From Rmoment at aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 18:03:24 EST
Subject: Re: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
Here are some comments you all can take for what they're worth:
1) I have NEVER seen a repaired steering wheel that doesn't crack after 5
years or more. The plastic gets brittle with age and shrinks over its metal
core. Something has to give.
2) I have used JB Weld to repair. I grind out the cracks to the root using
a Dremel 1/8" burr. If also find that if you use a hair dryer to heat the
epoxy just afater you work it into the cracks, its viscosity will decrease
(it gets more liquidy) and it will wet the groove sides better. It also will
flow out of the grooves so you can use some tape to "hold it in" or do
additional applications to fill in the slumped areas.
3) The only wheels I'd try to repair are those that are not available
anywhere which, for big Healeys, means the 100s.
4) The repro wheels you can buy are very well done. However, they do
require some fine sanding and polishing to remove the mold parting lines. I
use 600 grit and finer and then the same polish I'd use on my paint. Works
perfectly. And on the adjustable wheels, the collet/collar is hsaped
slightly differently so I prefer to transfer over the original one, if it is
not damaged.
Roger
From "Stephen Graham" <stepheng48 at home.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 18:17:46 -0800
Subject: Re: Gas problem
How could I have missed that :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>
To: "Stephen Graham" <stepheng48@home.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: Gas problem
> You forgot to install the third carb. Ray 62BT7 "Tri-Carb".
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Graham" <stepheng48@home.com>
> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 6:14 PM
> Subject: Gas problem
>
>
> >
> > Good morning List.
> >
> > I have a 62 BT 7, with 2 carbs. The carbs have been rubilt, I have new
gas
> > lines and a new CORRECT pump, and the car also has gas.
> >
> > When I start the car, it runs fine for 3-5 minutes then putters out. I
can
> > wait a few minutes and it will start up again only to fizzle out again
in
> 1-20
> > seconds.
> >
> > I hace checked the lines and gas is geting the tha carbs, and into the
> > floats.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > Detroit
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:28:40 -0600
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
Rich
Well said, I'm with you.
Kind regards
Ed
Saskatoon
Rich C wrote:
> Could everyone pleeeease get off this political stuff and get on with Healey
> content?
> I live in a country other than the U.S.A., (Canada) and though we will be
> having our own federal election very soon, I for one promise to keep our
> political chit chat off this list.
> Rich Chrysler
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:13:48 -0600
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
Are you trying to tell us that we have so much fun driving our Healeys
because we're sniffing glue? If that's the case, Healeys will be quickly put
on the controlled substances list. RayfixitandIneverinhaledthefumesFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich C" <rich.chrysler@sympatico.ca>
To: "David" <david_m@radiantsoundworks.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>;
"Jerry Wall" <jwbn6@iopener.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
>
> All joking aside, there is a specific smell to the early cars, especially
> the Hundred, which seems to be unique.
> A combination of Conolly hides and dyes, the jute and tarpaper carpet
> underlays, the oiled and treated wood panels and seat track spacers, and
the
> old glues used, all contribute to the smell.
> The later cars also have a similar smell, but it's somewhat different.
maybe
> they went to different glues as time went by.
> Hmmm, maybe someone should bottle and sell the smells. <g>
> Rich Chrysler
>
>
> > > 3) Now DON'T laugh too hard...but will it retain that original Healey
> > > interior smell??
> > >
> > > I'm not into having a perfect concours car....just a great looking and
> > > running Austin Healey. But one thing that must be orginal is that
> interior
> > > smell. I've spent many years in these cars...and it's just not a
Healey
> if
> > > it doesn't SMELL like a Healey. What's responsible for that...the
> > > carpets....the vinyl....the glue? Or is it a combination? I
know...some
> of
> > > you guys brobably think I'm nuts....could be....but do you know the
> > answer?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > BJ8
> > > TR4A
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:14:40 -0600
Subject: Re: Non related Subject for Lists
Right on! Ray Feehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich C" <rich.chrysler@sympatico.ca>
To: "Digitrax" <digitrax@egroups.com>; "CNLines-CNet"
<CNLines-CNet@egroups.com>; "Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Cc: "PassengerCarList" <PassengerCarList@egroups.com>; "CanadaSouthern"
<CanadaSouthern@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 4:41 PM
Subject: Non related Subject for Lists
>
> Please excuse this unrelated note to this list, but:
> To all veterans everywhere in the free world,
> We remember, and we thank you.
> Rich Chrysler
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:20:00 -0600
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
I particularly keep my eye on the politics of the U.S.A. especially the
junker laws that some morons keep trying to pass. I'm also Canadian but our
country seems to implement many of the States laws, and don't forget to many
un-enlightened people our Healeys are junk. I feel this thread is
informative and interesting. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich C" <rich.chrysler@sympatico.ca>
To: <dwflagg@juno.com>; <WilKo@aol.com>
Cc: <Healybj8@aol.com>; <pdzwig@summaventures.com>; <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
election
>
> Could everyone pleeeease get off this political stuff and get on with
Healey
> content?
> I live in a country other than the U.S.A., (Canada) and though we will be
> having our own federal election very soon, I for one promise to keep our
> political chit chat off this list.
> Rich Chrysler
From "William Kollar" <wkollar at superior.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 19:14:48 -0500
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
What's up with this? Have you been sitting there like a
five year old waiting to kick that dead horse again. Grow
up!!
____________________________________________________________
Ever Wonder ?
__ bill kollar
----- Original Message -----
From: <dickb@cheerful.com>
To: "ynotink" <ynotink@qwest.net>; "austin healey list"
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks
think ofelection
>
> To The List
>
> Some of you practically melted my computer six weeks ago
for posting a warning about unsafe Firestone tires - which
warning has been proven true in spades. Crying that Tires
weren't proper subjects of discussion on this List - about
as idiotic a point-of-view that I could imagine.
>
> In the past 48 hours I have seen at least three Blatant
Commercial Offerings, by Commercial Enterprises - not owners
of LBCs, Notwithstanding our supposed rules against
commercial advertising. Where are the complaints?
>
> NOW - I have to wallow in this clap-trap - which certainly
is not even remotely about Healeys or any other British
cars - From A Poster Who Has Never Before Posted Here -
puporting to teach us what the Electoral College is all
about - and this from a location where they don't even know
how to count I guess.
>
> Mr. YNOTINK, why don't you correspond with your fellow
wackos at your regular location - FreeRepublic or one of the
AOL chatrooms. (And you might also spend a few hours reading
the Federalist Papers and Constitutional history, you don't
know what you're talking about)
>
> DickB
>
>
>
> ---- you wrote:
> >
> > I've heard a lot of speculation about doing away with
the electoral
> > college, and
> > senator elect "Hillary" is even making noise about
sponsoring the
> > legislation to
> > do just that. I doubt if it would be an issue to her if
the roles were reversed.
> >
> > My High school days are a few years in the past. They
occurred back in
> > the days
> > before there was a Department of Education, when
students, in order to
> > graduate, were required to be able to read their
diplomas and to have at
> > least a
> > nodding acquaintance with state, national and world
history as well as civics.
> > (You know I don't think I would know how to put a condom
on a banana, but
> > then I've never wanted to.)
> >
> > As I recall the original purpose of the electoral
college was to allow
> > for an
> > orderly polling and selection process in a large,
sparsely populated
> > nation with only
> > rudimentary and primitive communications and
transportation systems. The
> > electors were sent to the capitol as elected
representatives for the sole
> > specific purpose of electing a President.
> >
> > In addition, our government was set up to try to balance
the conflicting
> > interests of states having large urban populations as
opposed to those having
> > sparse rural populations. That's why each state has two
senators
> > regardless of
> > population and few or numerous congressmen based on the
voting
> > population. It
> > turns out the electoral college, based on the same
proportion, serves
> > well the
> > purpose of choosing a chief executive.
> >
> > If you don't believe there are basic philosophical
differences between these
> > geographic regions, a glance at the electoral vote maps
being flashed on your
> > television all week shows that the vast majority of
Gore's support is in states
> > on the seacoasts while Bush won in all but a couple of
the states in between.
> > (The elitists call it "Flyover Country".) Incidentally I
see that Bush
> > now has a
> > 17 vote lead in New Mexico and, so nobody is misled as
to my preference,
> > I am
> > praying for the first time in years that my vote is the
one that
> > delivers the
> > state to him.
> >
> > As for the popular vote, I don't give a damn who has the
best buns or who
> > Barbara Streisand supports (I understand she is supposed
to be a great thespian,
> > but I think her most impressive roll is when she
portrays a person who actually
> > had an original thought.) The opinions of celebrated
intellectual
> > wannabes has
> > an impact totally out of proportion to their actual
value, especially in the
> > megalopoly where the stars are gods and the people are
sheep.
> >
> > Ninety percent of the U.S. population lives within about
100 miles of
> > the ocean. To
> > base the entire electoral process on a this miniscule
geographic area
> > (as would
> > occur in a pure democracy) and call that "THE WILL OF
THE PEOPLE "
> > would be to
> > disenfranchise the entire population of the nation
between Pennsylvania and
> > California. (And to think the Dems are having colon
spasms about 3000
> > senile old
> > ladies in Florida!) In former days this was called
"Taxation without
> > representation" . Maybe some of our erstwhile colonial
overlords will recognize
> > the term.
> >
> > You will pardon me if I don't lose sleep over the fact
that Bill Daley (If
> > anyone would recognize vote fraud!...) has not yet found
enough dead
> > voters in
> > Florida to get Al elected.
> >
> > You may have a problem with the electoral college
system, but for the
> > time being
> > it is the law as prescribed by the constitution and I
don't recall
> > hearing that
> > that document has yet been repealed. On January 20th one
man will stand
> > on the
> > steps of the capitol and swear to "support, protect and
defend the constitution
> > ...." Nowhere in that oath will you find the words
"fairness", "democracy",
> > "Democrat", "will of the people", "Clinton legacy" or
"trial lawyer"
> > The mere
> > fact that Gore has threatened to attempt to overturn the
election in the courts,
> > along with his stated belief that the constitution is "a
living
> > document" (read:
> > "silly putty") indicates to me that he cannot take this
oath in good
> > faith and as
> > such is unfit for the office.
> >
> > Sorry to waste so much band width, but this has been
building up in me
> > and I
> > had to vent and you were unfortunate enough to be the
one to bring it up.
> >
> >
> > Bill (never voting for another Democrat) Lawrence
> > Albuquerque, NM
> >
> >
> > WilKo@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he
refers are the Electoral
> > > College and how silly that looks when the people vote
for a president (Al
> > > Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W.
Bush as president.
> > >
> > > Is that you meant Peter?
> > >
> > > Rick
> > > San Diego
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM,
Healybj8@aol.com writes:
> > >
> > > <<
> > > Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers
each side sent to Florida
> > > begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That
is what I am worried
> > > about, not the few hundred votes that swing the
election. Either guy can do
> > > the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope
the one that finally
> > > loses when all the votes are counted bows out
gracefully.
> > >
> > > Tim Wallace
> > > '67 BJ8
> > > Fuquay-Varina, NC
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern
Standard Time,
> > > pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
> > >
> > > << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and
it does look a real
> > > mess. A
> > > President with all his power and Kudos elected by
maybe 200-odd
> > > people?????????
> > >
> > > Peter Dzwig >>
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
------
From john spaur <jmsdarch at infoasis.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:37:03 -0800
Subject: Re: Gas problem
You might check the floats. If you have an incorrect float it can allow
enough gas into the float chamber for the car to run for a brief period
then the chamber fills up and seats the needle. Remove the float chamber
lid and check to see that the float has sufficient movement. If they are
incorrect there will be almost no movement in the float.
John
'62 BT7 tricarb
At 04:14 PM 11/11/00 -0800, Stephen Graham wrote:
>Good morning List.
>
>I have a 62 BT 7, with 2 carbs. The carbs have been rubilt, I have new gas
>lines and a new CORRECT pump, and the car also has gas.
>
>When I start the car, it runs fine for 3-5 minutes then putters out. I can
>wait a few minutes and it will start up again only to fizzle out again in 1-20
>seconds.
>
>I hace checked the lines and gas is geting the tha carbs, and into the
>floats.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Stephen
>
>Detroit
From HLYDOC at aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:56:36 EST
Subject: Re: Front Wing for BN7
We have a couple of original oe fenders in various comditions
David Nock
President/Service Manager
British Car Specialists
2060 N Wilson Way
Stockton Calif. 95205
209-948-8767 fax 209-948-1030 email HealeyDoc@aol.com
Visit our new web site at <A HREF="http://britishcarspecialists.com/";>
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========================================
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From pcowper at webtv.net (Pete Cowper)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 19:54:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Lucas Vote Counters
You don't suppose Lucas had anything to do with those Florida vote
counters?
Pete Cowper (1960 BT7)
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:42:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
Heck ray
I'm not hurtin' - on the contray, I'm glad I rang the alarm and those who ran
their mouths at me look like fools don't they?
My point was that I was chastened for using the List for 1)Non-LBC and 2)
commercial purposes - referring to Halogen Bulbs and "Building a Lawsuit",
remember?
Now I see Moss selling directly on this List; someone selling motors and
trannies and ODs - someone who is in the business of selling cars and parts;
and now we have the List turned into a sounding board for right-wing nutcases.
I just think we aught to have a little intellectual and ethical consistency
around here.
DickB
---- you wrote:
> 6 weeks and you're still hurting? C'mon Dick warm up that delete button.
> RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dickb@cheerful.com>
> To: "ynotink" <ynotink@qwest.net>; "austin healey list"
> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think ofelection
>
>
> >
> > To The List
> >
> > Some of you practically melted my computer six weeks ago for posting a
> warning about unsafe Firestone tires - which warning has been proven true in
> spades. Crying that Tires weren't proper subjects of discussion on this
> List - about as idiotic a point-of-view that I could imagine.
> >
> > In the past 48 hours I have seen at least three Blatant Commercial
> Offerings, by Commercial Enterprises - not owners of LBCs, Notwithstanding
> our supposed rules against commercial advertising. Where are the
> complaints?
> >
> > NOW - I have to wallow in this clap-trap - which certainly is not even
> remotely about Healeys or any other British cars - From A Poster Who Has
> Never Before Posted Here - puporting to teach us what the Electoral College
> is all about - and this from a location where they don't even know how to
> count I guess.
> >
> > Mr. YNOTINK, why don't you correspond with your fellow wackos at your
> regular location - FreeRepublic or one of the AOL chatrooms. (And you might
> also spend a few hours reading the Federalist Papers and Constitutional
> history, you don't know what you're talking about)
> >
> > DickB
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- you wrote:
> > >
> > > I've heard a lot of speculation about doing away with the electoral
> > > college, and
> > > senator elect "Hillary" is even making noise about sponsoring the
> > > legislation to
> > > do just that. I doubt if it would be an issue to her if the roles were
> reversed.
> > >
> > > My High school days are a few years in the past. They occurred back in
> > > the days
> > > before there was a Department of Education, when students, in order to
> > > graduate, were required to be able to read their diplomas and to have at
> > > least a
> > > nodding acquaintance with state, national and world history as well as
> civics.
> > > (You know I don't think I would know how to put a condom on a banana,
> but
> > > then I've never wanted to.)
> > >
> > > As I recall the original purpose of the electoral college was to allow
> > > for an
> > > orderly polling and selection process in a large, sparsely populated
> > > nation with only
> > > rudimentary and primitive communications and transportation systems. The
> > > electors were sent to the capitol as elected representatives for the
> sole
> > > specific purpose of electing a President.
> > >
> > > In addition, our government was set up to try to balance the conflicting
> > > interests of states having large urban populations as opposed to those
> having
> > > sparse rural populations. That's why each state has two senators
> > > regardless of
> > > population and few or numerous congressmen based on the voting
> > > population. It
> > > turns out the electoral college, based on the same proportion, serves
> > > well the
> > > purpose of choosing a chief executive.
> > >
> > > If you don't believe there are basic philosophical differences between
> these
> > > geographic regions, a glance at the electoral vote maps being flashed on
> your
> > > television all week shows that the vast majority of Gore's support is in
> states
> > > on the seacoasts while Bush won in all but a couple of the states in
> between.
> > > (The elitists call it "Flyover Country".) Incidentally I see that Bush
> > > now has a
> > > 17 vote lead in New Mexico and, so nobody is misled as to my preference,
> > > I am
> > > praying for the first time in years that my vote is the one that
> > > delivers the
> > > state to him.
> > >
> > > As for the popular vote, I don't give a damn who has the best buns or
> who
> > > Barbara Streisand supports (I understand she is supposed to be a great
> thespian,
> > > but I think her most impressive roll is when she portrays a person who
> actually
> > > had an original thought.) The opinions of celebrated intellectual
> > > wannabes has
> > > an impact totally out of proportion to their actual value, especially in
> the
> > > megalopoly where the stars are gods and the people are sheep.
> > >
> > > Ninety percent of the U.S. population lives within about 100 miles of
> > > the ocean. To
> > > base the entire electoral process on a this miniscule geographic area
> > > (as would
> > > occur in a pure democracy) and call that "THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE "
> > > would be to
> > > disenfranchise the entire population of the nation between Pennsylvania
> and
> > > California. (And to think the Dems are having colon spasms about 3000
> > > senile old
> > > ladies in Florida!) In former days this was called "Taxation without
> > > representation" . Maybe some of our erstwhile colonial overlords will
> recognize
> > > the term.
> > >
> > > You will pardon me if I don't lose sleep over the fact that Bill Daley
> (If
> > > anyone would recognize vote fraud!...) has not yet found enough dead
> > > voters in
> > > Florida to get Al elected.
> > >
> > > You may have a problem with the electoral college system, but for the
> > > time being
> > > it is the law as prescribed by the constitution and I don't recall
> > > hearing that
> > > that document has yet been repealed. On January 20th one man will stand
> > > on the
> > > steps of the capitol and swear to "support, protect and defend the
> constitution
> > > ...." Nowhere in that oath will you find the words "fairness",
> "democracy",
> > > "Democrat", "will of the people", "Clinton legacy" or "trial lawyer"
> > > The mere
> > > fact that Gore has threatened to attempt to overturn the election in the
> courts,
> > > along with his stated belief that the constitution is "a living
> > > document" (read:
> > > "silly putty") indicates to me that he cannot take this oath in good
> > > faith and as
> > > such is unfit for the office.
> > >
> > > Sorry to waste so much band width, but this has been building up in me
> > > and I
> > > had to vent and you were unfortunate enough to be the one to bring it
> up.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill (never voting for another Democrat) Lawrence
> > > Albuquerque, NM
> > >
> > >
> > > WilKo@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the
> Electoral
> > > > College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a president
> (Al
> > > > Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as
> president.
> > > >
> > > > Is that you meant Peter?
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > > > San Diego
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
> > > >
> > > > <<
> > > > Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent to
> Florida
> > > > begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am
> worried
> > > > about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either guy
> can do
> > > > the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that
> finally
> > > > loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
> > > >
> > > > Tim Wallace
> > > > '67 BJ8
> > > > Fuquay-Varina, NC
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
> > > >
> > > > << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does look a
> real
> > > > mess. A
> > > > President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
> > > > people?????????
> > > >
> > > > Peter Dzwig >>
> > >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >
>
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From Csooch1 at aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:47:56 EST
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
In a message dated 11/11/00 10:46:01 PM Central Standard Time,
dickb@cheerful.com writes:
<< 6 weeks and you're still hurting? C'mon Dick warm up that delete button.
> RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
>>
Too bad that button doesn't work for people.
Bored in NJ
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:53:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Gas problem
Stephen
I suspect you're sucking air between the tank and the fuelpump, so the pump is
not putting out 3-4 gpm as per spec.
When you first start your car you wait until the pump sstops clicking - at
which poin both float chambers are full. Then it runs until it uses up the
fuel in the float chambers and then quits. You wait a minute or so and it
restarts but quickly quits again because you have only filled the float
chambers partially.
Check for air leaks where the pickup comes out of the tank and at the fitting
at the inlet to the pump.
DickB
---- you wrote:
>
> You forgot to install the third carb. Ray 62BT7 "Tri-Carb".
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Graham" <stepheng48@home.com>
> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 6:14 PM
> Subject: Gas problem
>
>
> >
> > Good morning List.
> >
> > I have a 62 BT 7, with 2 carbs. The carbs have been rubilt, I have new gas
> > lines and a new CORRECT pump, and the car also has gas.
> >
> > When I start the car, it runs fine for 3-5 minutes then putters out. I can
> > wait a few minutes and it will start up again only to fizzle out again in
> 1-20
> > seconds.
> >
> > I hace checked the lines and gas is geting the tha carbs, and into the
> > floats.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > Detroit
>
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From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:47:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: still no Healey content, but an apology of sorts.
Mr Lawrence
When the machinery of the Electoral College was devised by the writers of the
Constitution is was contemplated that Electors would be an elite group who,
having been themselves appointed State Legislatures, elected by an electorate
which was only slightly similar to the present electorate (no women, no blacks,
etc), would be unable to agree, and the President would be elected by the House
of Representatives.
Well it didn't work out like that due to 1) the rise of the two-party system
and 2) the custom that all of the Electors would be awarded by the State
Legislatures to the plurality winner.
That's why we now have "Fly Over States" - only the "swing" states count for
anything and the rest of the country might as well stay home - which they
mostly do.
If the Electoral College was distributed proportionally, OR, the President was
elected by popular vote but it was required that the winner get over 50% and we
had run-offs or, Better, an 'Instant-Runoff System" like they have in
Australia, then every vote would count and there would be no "Fly-Over States".
I fear this will never happen because that will permit strong 3rd parties and
that isn't what the Reps and the Dems want or find in their best (read
financial) interest.
How's you BN1 coming along?
DickB
---- you wrote:
> Actually I have posted before Dick, I just have a new computer and ISP, I
>have been off the list for a number of months because I have been spending my
>allotted computer time on the restoration of my BN1. I apologize if my
>posting, (now postings) offend you. However, after being bombarded for nearly
>a week
> with bullshit about how we should overturn the electoral college if the
>democrats don't like the result I felt that when I encountered the same
>mis-information on this most sacred and apolitical venue some civics education
>was not inappropriate. If you check the information I put out I think you will
>find it
> mostly accurate. (Civics was never my best class either.)
>
> To my shame I have never read the federalist papers, although from what I
>know of them I think they are infinitely more valid than the crap put out by
>the Clinton spin machine.
>
> Knowing that you feel political discussion to be clap trap is very
>disheartening when you consider the consequences of a wrong choice.
>
>
> Bill (yes I can count) Lawrence
> Albuquerque. NM
>
>
> dickb@cheerful.com wrote:
>
> > To The List
> >
> > Some of you practically melted my computer six weeks ago for posting a
>warning about unsafe Firestone tires - which warning has been proven true in
>spades. Crying that Tires weren't proper subjects of discussion on this List
>- about as idiotic a point-of-view that I could imagine.
> >
> > In the past 48 hours I have seen at least three Blatant Commercial
>Offerings, by Commercial Enterprises - not owners of LBCs, Notwithstanding our
>supposed rules against commercial advertising. Where are the complaints?
> >
> > NOW - I have to wallow in this clap-trap - which certainly is not even
>remotely about Healeys or any other British cars - From A Poster Who Has Never
>Before Posted Here - puporting to teach us what the Electoral College is all
>about - and this from a location where they don't even know how to count I
>guess.
> >
> > Mr. YNOTINK, why don't you correspond with your fellow wackos at your
>regular location - FreeRepublic or one of the AOL chatrooms. (And you might
>also spend a few hours reading the Federalist Papers and Constitutional
>history, you don't know what you're talking about)
> >
> > DickB
> >
> > ---- you wrote:
> > >
> > > I've heard a lot of speculation about doing away with the electoral
> > > college, and
> > > senator elect "Hillary" is even making noise about sponsoring the
> > > legislation to
> > > do just that. I doubt if it would be an issue to her if the roles were
>reversed.
> > >
> > > My High school days are a few years in the past. They occurred back in
> > > the days
> > > before there was a Department of Education, when students, in order to
> > > graduate, were required to be able to read their diplomas and to have at
> > > least a
> > > nodding acquaintance with state, national and world history as well as
>civics.
> > > (You know I don't think I would know how to put a condom on a banana, but
> > > then I've never wanted to.)
> > >
> > > As I recall the original purpose of the electoral college was to allow
> > > for an
> > > orderly polling and selection process in a large, sparsely populated
> > > nation with only
> > > rudimentary and primitive communications and transportation systems. The
> > > electors were sent to the capitol as elected representatives for the sole
> > > specific purpose of electing a President.
> > >
> > > In addition, our government was set up to try to balance the conflicting
> > > interests of states having large urban populations as opposed to those
>having
> > > sparse rural populations. That's why each state has two senators
> > > regardless of
> > > population and few or numerous congressmen based on the voting
> > > population. It
> > > turns out the electoral college, based on the same proportion, serves
> > > well the
> > > purpose of choosing a chief executive.
> > >
> > > If you don't believe there are basic philosophical differences between
>these
> > > geographic regions, a glance at the electoral vote maps being flashed on
>your
> > > television all week shows that the vast majority of Gore's support is in
>states
> > > on the seacoasts while Bush won in all but a couple of the states in
>between.
> > > (The elitists call it "Flyover Country".) Incidentally I see that Bush
> > > now has a
> > > 17 vote lead in New Mexico and, so nobody is misled as to my preference,
> > > I am
> > > praying for the first time in years that my vote is the one that
> > > delivers the
> > > state to him.
> > >
> > > As for the popular vote, I don't give a damn who has the best buns or who
> > > Barbara Streisand supports (I understand she is supposed to be a great
>thespian,
> > > but I think her most impressive roll is when she portrays a person who
>actually
> > > had an original thought.) The opinions of celebrated intellectual
> > > wannabes has
> > > an impact totally out of proportion to their actual value, especially in
>the
> > > megalopoly where the stars are gods and the people are sheep.
> > >
> > > Ninety percent of the U.S. population lives within about 100 miles of
> > > the ocean. To
> > > base the entire electoral process on a this miniscule geographic area
> > > (as would
> > > occur in a pure democracy) and call that "THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE "
> > > would be to
> > > disenfranchise the entire population of the nation between Pennsylvania
>and
> > > California. (And to think the Dems are having colon spasms about 3000
> > > senile old
> > > ladies in Florida!) In former days this was called "Taxation without
> > > representation" . Maybe some of our erstwhile colonial overlords will
>recognize
> > > the term.
> > >
> > > You will pardon me if I don't lose sleep over the fact that Bill Daley (If
> > > anyone would recognize vote fraud!...) has not yet found enough dead
> > > voters in
> > > Florida to get Al elected.
> > >
> > > You may have a problem with the electoral college system, but for the
> > > time being
> > > it is the law as prescribed by the constitution and I don't recall
> > > hearing that
> > > that document has yet been repealed. On January 20th one man will stand
> > > on the
> > > steps of the capitol and swear to "support, protect and defend the
>constitution
> > > ...." Nowhere in that oath will you find the words "fairness",
>"democracy",
> > > "Democrat", "will of the people", "Clinton legacy" or "trial lawyer"
> > > The mere
> > > fact that Gore has threatened to attempt to overturn the election in the
>courts,
> > > along with his stated belief that the constitution is "a living
> > > document" (read:
> > > "silly putty") indicates to me that he cannot take this oath in good
> > > faith and as
> > > such is unfit for the office.
> > >
> > > Sorry to waste so much band width, but this has been building up in me
> > > and I
> > > had to vent and you were unfortunate enough to be the one to bring it up.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill (never voting for another Democrat) Lawrence
> > > Albuquerque, NM
> > >
> > >
> > > WilKo@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the
>Electoral
> > > > College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a president
>(Al
> > > > Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as president.
> > > >
> > > > Is that you meant Peter?
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > > > San Diego
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
> > > >
> > > > <<
> > > > Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent to
>Florida
> > > > begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am
>worried
> > > > about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either guy
>can do
> > > > the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that
>finally
> > > > loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
> > > >
> > > > Tim Wallace
> > > > '67 BJ8
> > > > Fuquay-Varina, NC
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
> > > >
> > > > << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does look a
>real
> > > > mess. A
> > > > President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
> > > > people?????????
> > > >
> > > > Peter Dzwig >>
> > >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com
>
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From Dean Caccavo <healeybn7 at yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:33:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Himalayan (Unipart)Rally Car Pictures
Folk,
I finally got around to posting the pics of the
Unipart Rally car. I had a friend scan them, so the
images are a little larger then what I would have
liked for a web site, so be patient(600k).
The web address is http://www.geocities.com/healeybn7/
follow the Unipart link.
Dean
--- Ed Santoro wrote:
> Dean: Posting Pictures of this car would be great
> !!!! > Dean Caccavo wrote:
>
> > Last year ....
> >
> > I will search my photo archive tonight and post
> > pictures for those interested. I took several
> shots of
> > the interior and engine compartment.
> >
> > Dean
> > BN7
> >
> > > It is an
> > > ex-Abingdon 'works' car, many years later last
> > > driven in anger by Philip
> > > Young, with Unipart sponsorship, in a Himalayan
> > > Rally of the mid-1980s. It
> > > now carries the identity of 2754 DK.
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From hm.heim at t-online.de (Helga & Martin Heim)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 12:28:36 +0100
Subject: Fw: No Healey content: Think of election outside US
Me,
as another German (i.e.: Kraut Hi Ed ! <g> ), I have to second the
oppinion of Josef. Me and others around me are wondering what is going
on over there in the States. It even took me quite a while to
understand how your president is elected. But anyhow, we may not
criticize your election system. I would just like to have the election
properly finished now.
Best regards
Martin
Germany
----- Original Message -----
From: <Josef.Eckert@t-mobil.de>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 9:30 AM
Subject: No Healey content: Think of election outside US
>
> Its a little funny for us to see and hear about the confusion in the
States.
> The comments in TV and Radio are like:
> The Americans are not able to count votes.
> USA goes back to Banana Republic.
> But the matter is too serious to make jokes about it. So, our medias
are very
> close looking what is going on in America. In Germany we think
Clinton has done
> well, Gore may follow this path. We do not know a lot about Bush.
But I think
> there is not a big difference in the politics of Gore and Bush. So
we think
> lets go on. Both are not the best, but accepable. Elect one of both,
but stop
> these funny things.
> In Germany we are as all other European Countries very much
effected, what is
> going on in the States. The Dollar is very very high. The Euro is
very weak.
> The stock market reactions are directly related to whats going on in
the States
> and these brokers are like chickens.
>
> Thats more or less my personal feelings.
>
> Josef Eckert, Germany
From Lynn and Jean Neff <lynnneff at springnet1.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 05:55:31 -0600
Subject: Non Healey Content:Wondering what non-US folks think of the
"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Lynn BT7
From "Steve Jowett" <enquiries at ukhealey.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:50:14 -0000
Subject: Re: Healey Art
Stephen
If you are interested in Healey art, check out the pencil drawing print we
have just had done.
Steve Jowett UK HEALEY
www.ukhealey.co.uk
From Krazy Kiwi <magicare at home.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:17:01 -0500
Subject: Re: CAUTION: LBC Content (was "Re: Healey for sale")
Bill Boltons car was UJB141 not UJB143
UJB141 is presently residing in my shop near Toronto being prepared for
historic rallying for its new owner.
I believe that UJB143 was Al MacNellen's (I apologize for the spelling if
incorrect ) car, also from the Toronto area, which recently ran in the Malt Run
in Scotland.
Regards,
Mike Salter
www.precisionsportscar.com
Reid Trummel wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:23:28 +0000, Peter Dzwig wrote:
>
> >> I notice from one of the sports car mags that UJB 143 (genuine ex-works
> rally car) is up for auction at Brooks Olympia, here in London on Dec. 4th.
> Anybody fancy a nice Christmas present?
>
> Peter
>
> PS Before anybody asks.... it ISN'T DD300...the registration (UJB 143) was
> used on a later car after the original was re-registered as DD300. <<
>
> Isn't that Bill Bolton's Sebring car that sold for much too little at
> auction just several months ago? If so, it seems that someone may be
> preparing to try to cash in on their "buy."
>
> Yes, Peter, I do fancy such a Christmas gift. Be a good chap and remember
> to wrap it appropriately for me. Whatever can I get for you?
>
> Cheers,
> Reid Trummel
> Tampa, Florida
> 2 x BN2
> 2 x AN5
> http://www.healey.org
>
> _______________________________________________________
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From "Don Yarber" <dyarber at dynasty.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 08:54:47 -0600
Subject: Re: CAUTION: LBC Content (was "Re: Healey for sale")
A young blond female stock broker was bored with driving her BMW. It
lacked individuality and besides, every other girl in the office had
one.. She fancied something a bit more
individual. perhaps a convertible. That week she visited her local car
dealer and spied a beautiful Jaguar XK140 convertible. It was
wonderfully restored and she fell in love with the
gorgeous red paint work. An empty check stub later and off she was
tearing down leafy country lanes, enjoying her beautiful new car. Her
long blond hair flowing in the wind, music
blaring from the radio, what could possibly go wrong. Then at that
thought, there was a spluttrer from the engine and the car coasted to a
stop. She got out and lifted the bonnet and
concluded after a few minutes that she didn't have a clue what was
wrong. Luckily she had her mobile phone with her, a quick call to the
Auto Club and a short wait saw a bright yellow
van pull up behind her. "That's a lovely car" says the mechanic." "What
seems to be the matter." "Well, it just conked out I'm afraid." "Let me
have a look". He set to work work and ten
minutes later the engine was purring like a cat again. "Thank goodness"
she said. "What was the matter?" "Simple really, just crap in the
carburetor," he replied. Looking shocked, she
asked, "Oh, OK, how many times a week do I have to do that?"
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The
Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the
difference.
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 08:20:32 -0600
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
I also can't understand all the carping about non-Healey threads. They are
interesting and they don't last very long. Ray Feehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: <dickb@cheerful.com>
To: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>; "austin healey list"
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think ofelection
> Heck ray
>
> I'm not hurtin' - on the contray, I'm glad I rang the alarm and those who
ran their mouths at me look like fools don't they?
>
> My point was that I was chastened for using the List for 1)Non-LBC and 2)
commercial purposes - referring to Halogen Bulbs and "Building a Lawsuit",
remember?
>
> Now I see Moss selling directly on this List; someone selling motors and
trannies and ODs - someone who is in the business of selling cars and parts;
and now we have the List turned into a sounding board for right-wing
nutcases.
>
> I just think we aught to have a little intellectual and ethical
consistency around here.
>
> DickB
>
> ---- you wrote:
> > 6 weeks and you're still hurting? C'mon Dick warm up that delete button.
> > RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <dickb@cheerful.com>
> > To: "ynotink" <ynotink@qwest.net>; "austin healey list"
> > <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 3:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
ofelection
> >
> >
> > >
> > > To The List
> > >
> > > Some of you practically melted my computer six weeks ago for posting
a
> > warning about unsafe Firestone tires - which warning has been proven
true in
> > spades. Crying that Tires weren't proper subjects of discussion on this
> > List - about as idiotic a point-of-view that I could imagine.
> > >
> > > In the past 48 hours I have seen at least three Blatant Commercial
> > Offerings, by Commercial Enterprises - not owners of LBCs,
Notwithstanding
> > our supposed rules against commercial advertising. Where are the
> > complaints?
> > >
> > > NOW - I have to wallow in this clap-trap - which certainly is not even
> > remotely about Healeys or any other British cars - From A Poster Who Has
> > Never Before Posted Here - puporting to teach us what the Electoral
College
> > is all about - and this from a location where they don't even know how
to
> > count I guess.
> > >
> > > Mr. YNOTINK, why don't you correspond with your fellow wackos at your
> > regular location - FreeRepublic or one of the AOL chatrooms. (And you
might
> > also spend a few hours reading the Federalist Papers and Constitutional
> > history, you don't know what you're talking about)
> > >
> > > DickB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---- you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've heard a lot of speculation about doing away with the electoral
> > > > college, and
> > > > senator elect "Hillary" is even making noise about sponsoring the
> > > > legislation to
> > > > do just that. I doubt if it would be an issue to her if the roles
were
> > reversed.
> > > >
> > > > My High school days are a few years in the past. They occurred back
in
> > > > the days
> > > > before there was a Department of Education, when students, in order
to
> > > > graduate, were required to be able to read their diplomas and to
have at
> > > > least a
> > > > nodding acquaintance with state, national and world history as well
as
> > civics.
> > > > (You know I don't think I would know how to put a condom on a
banana,
> > but
> > > > then I've never wanted to.)
> > > >
> > > > As I recall the original purpose of the electoral college was to
allow
> > > > for an
> > > > orderly polling and selection process in a large, sparsely populated
> > > > nation with only
> > > > rudimentary and primitive communications and transportation systems.
The
> > > > electors were sent to the capitol as elected representatives for the
> > sole
> > > > specific purpose of electing a President.
> > > >
> > > > In addition, our government was set up to try to balance the
conflicting
> > > > interests of states having large urban populations as opposed to
those
> > having
> > > > sparse rural populations. That's why each state has two senators
> > > > regardless of
> > > > population and few or numerous congressmen based on the voting
> > > > population. It
> > > > turns out the electoral college, based on the same proportion,
serves
> > > > well the
> > > > purpose of choosing a chief executive.
> > > >
> > > > If you don't believe there are basic philosophical differences
between
> > these
> > > > geographic regions, a glance at the electoral vote maps being
flashed on
> > your
> > > > television all week shows that the vast majority of Gore's support
is in
> > states
> > > > on the seacoasts while Bush won in all but a couple of the states in
> > between.
> > > > (The elitists call it "Flyover Country".) Incidentally I see that
Bush
> > > > now has a
> > > > 17 vote lead in New Mexico and, so nobody is misled as to my
preference,
> > > > I am
> > > > praying for the first time in years that my vote is the one that
> > > > delivers the
> > > > state to him.
> > > >
> > > > As for the popular vote, I don't give a damn who has the best buns
or
> > who
> > > > Barbara Streisand supports (I understand she is supposed to be a
great
> > thespian,
> > > > but I think her most impressive roll is when she portrays a person
who
> > actually
> > > > had an original thought.) The opinions of celebrated intellectual
> > > > wannabes has
> > > > an impact totally out of proportion to their actual value,
especially in
> > the
> > > > megalopoly where the stars are gods and the people are sheep.
> > > >
> > > > Ninety percent of the U.S. population lives within about 100 miles
of
> > > > the ocean. To
> > > > base the entire electoral process on a this miniscule geographic
area
> > > > (as would
> > > > occur in a pure democracy) and call that "THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE "
> > > > would be to
> > > > disenfranchise the entire population of the nation between
Pennsylvania
> > and
> > > > California. (And to think the Dems are having colon spasms about
3000
> > > > senile old
> > > > ladies in Florida!) In former days this was called "Taxation without
> > > > representation" . Maybe some of our erstwhile colonial overlords
will
> > recognize
> > > > the term.
> > > >
> > > > You will pardon me if I don't lose sleep over the fact that Bill
Daley
> > (If
> > > > anyone would recognize vote fraud!...) has not yet found enough dead
> > > > voters in
> > > > Florida to get Al elected.
> > > >
> > > > You may have a problem with the electoral college system, but for
the
> > > > time being
> > > > it is the law as prescribed by the constitution and I don't recall
> > > > hearing that
> > > > that document has yet been repealed. On January 20th one man will
stand
> > > > on the
> > > > steps of the capitol and swear to "support, protect and defend the
> > constitution
> > > > ...." Nowhere in that oath will you find the words "fairness",
> > "democracy",
> > > > "Democrat", "will of the people", "Clinton legacy" or "trial
lawyer"
> > > > The mere
> > > > fact that Gore has threatened to attempt to overturn the election in
the
> > courts,
> > > > along with his stated belief that the constitution is "a living
> > > > document" (read:
> > > > "silly putty") indicates to me that he cannot take this oath in good
> > > > faith and as
> > > > such is unfit for the office.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to waste so much band width, but this has been building up in
me
> > > > and I
> > > > had to vent and you were unfortunate enough to be the one to bring
it
> > up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bill (never voting for another Democrat) Lawrence
> > > > Albuquerque, NM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > WilKo@aol.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the
> > Electoral
> > > > > College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a
president
> > (Al
> > > > > Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as
> > president.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is that you meant Peter?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick
> > > > > San Diego
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > <<
> > > > > Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent
to
> > Florida
> > > > > begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am
> > worried
> > > > > about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either
guy
> > can do
> > > > > the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that
> > finally
> > > > > loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim Wallace
> > > > > '67 BJ8
> > > > > Fuquay-Varina, NC
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > > pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does
look a
> > real
> > > > > mess. A
> > > > > President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
> > > > > people?????????
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter Dzwig >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com
From bn1 at flashcom.net
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 07:26:02 -0800
Subject: Virtual British Car Show
This site used to be located at
http://www.britishcarshow.com/html/welcome.htm
and
http://www.mfasco.com/~mike/gltr/html/british_car_show_enter.html
Has it moved again or has the final curtain come down?
Bill Barnett
BN1 #663
From "Michael Lupynec" <mlupynec at globalserve.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 10:32:02 -0500
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
>dickb@cheerful.com wrote:
>I'm not hurtin' - on the contray, I'm glad I rang the alarm and
those who ran their mouths at me look like fools don't
they?...........
>and now we have the List turned into a sounding board for
right-wing nutcases...........
>I just think we aught to have a little intellectual and ethical
consistency around here.
GEE WHIZ DICK, without you we would be in the dark about
Firestone. Sure glad you "rang the alarm".
Furthermore, I could not imagine the list without your "left-wing
nutcase" view of the Electoral College, which you posted - i.e.
"sound boarded" only an hour later.
I will not take the low road and will not suggest it's you who's
the "fool".
Mike L.
60A,67E,59Bug
----- Original Message -----
To: ray feehan <feehanr@cadvision.com>; austin healey list
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: November 11, 2000 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
ofelection
>
> Heck ray
>
> I'm not hurtin' - on the contray, I'm glad I rang the alarm and
those who ran their mouths at me look like fools don't they?
>
> My point was that I was chastened for using the List for
1)Non-LBC and 2) commercial purposes - referring to Halogen Bulbs
and "Building a Lawsuit", remember?
>
> Now I see Moss selling directly on this List; someone selling
motors and trannies and ODs - someone who is in the business of
selling cars and parts; and now we have the List turned into a
sounding board for right-wing nutcases.
>
> I just think we aught to have a little intellectual and ethical
consistency around here.
>
> DickB
>
> ---- you wrote:
> > 6 weeks and you're still hurting? C'mon Dick warm up that
delete button.
> > RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <dickb@cheerful.com>
> > To: "ynotink" <ynotink@qwest.net>; "austin healey list"
> > <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 3:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks
think ofelection
> >
> >
> > >
> > > To The List
> > >
> > > Some of you practically melted my computer six weeks ago
for posting a
> > warning about unsafe Firestone tires - which warning has been
proven true in
> > spades. Crying that Tires weren't proper subjects of
discussion on this
> > List - about as idiotic a point-of-view that I could imagine.
> > >
> > > In the past 48 hours I have seen at least three Blatant
Commercial
> > Offerings, by Commercial Enterprises - not owners of LBCs,
Notwithstanding
> > our supposed rules against commercial advertising. Where are
the
> > complaints?
> > >
> > > NOW - I have to wallow in this clap-trap - which certainly
is not even
> > remotely about Healeys or any other British cars - From A
Poster Who Has
> > Never Before Posted Here - puporting to teach us what the
Electoral College
> > is all about - and this from a location where they don't even
know how to
> > count I guess.
> > >
> > > Mr. YNOTINK, why don't you correspond with your fellow
wackos at your
> > regular location - FreeRepublic or one of the AOL chatrooms.
(And you might
> > also spend a few hours reading the Federalist Papers and
Constitutional
> > history, you don't know what you're talking about)
> > >
> > > DickB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---- you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've heard a lot of speculation about doing away with the
electoral
> > > > college, and
> > > > senator elect "Hillary" is even making noise about
sponsoring the
> > > > legislation to
> > > > do just that. I doubt if it would be an issue to her if
the roles were
> > reversed.
> > > >
> > > > My High school days are a few years in the past. They
occurred back in
> > > > the days
> > > > before there was a Department of Education, when
students, in order to
> > > > graduate, were required to be able to read their diplomas
and to have at
> > > > least a
> > > > nodding acquaintance with state, national and world
history as well as
> > civics.
> > > > (You know I don't think I would know how to put a condom
on a banana,
> > but
> > > > then I've never wanted to.)
> > > >
> > > > As I recall the original purpose of the electoral college
was to allow
> > > > for an
> > > > orderly polling and selection process in a large, sparsely
populated
> > > > nation with only
> > > > rudimentary and primitive communications and
transportation systems. The
> > > > electors were sent to the capitol as elected
representatives for the
> > sole
> > > > specific purpose of electing a President.
> > > >
> > > > In addition, our government was set up to try to balance
the conflicting
> > > > interests of states having large urban populations as
opposed to those
> > having
> > > > sparse rural populations. That's why each state has two
senators
> > > > regardless of
> > > > population and few or numerous congressmen based on the
voting
> > > > population. It
> > > > turns out the electoral college, based on the same
proportion, serves
> > > > well the
> > > > purpose of choosing a chief executive.
> > > >
> > > > If you don't believe there are basic philosophical
differences between
> > these
> > > > geographic regions, a glance at the electoral vote maps
being flashed on
> > your
> > > > television all week shows that the vast majority of Gore's
support is in
> > states
> > > > on the seacoasts while Bush won in all but a couple of the
states in
> > between.
> > > > (The elitists call it "Flyover Country".) Incidentally I
see that Bush
> > > > now has a
> > > > 17 vote lead in New Mexico and, so nobody is misled as to
my preference,
> > > > I am
> > > > praying for the first time in years that my vote is the
one that
> > > > delivers the
> > > > state to him.
> > > >
> > > > As for the popular vote, I don't give a damn who has the
best buns or
> > who
> > > > Barbara Streisand supports (I understand she is supposed
to be a great
> > thespian,
> > > > but I think her most impressive roll is when she portrays
a person who
> > actually
> > > > had an original thought.) The opinions of celebrated
intellectual
> > > > wannabes has
> > > > an impact totally out of proportion to their actual value,
especially in
> > the
> > > > megalopoly where the stars are gods and the people are
sheep.
> > > >
> > > > Ninety percent of the U.S. population lives within about
100 miles of
> > > > the ocean. To
> > > > base the entire electoral process on a this miniscule
geographic area
> > > > (as would
> > > > occur in a pure democracy) and call that "THE WILL OF THE
PEOPLE "
> > > > would be to
> > > > disenfranchise the entire population of the nation between
Pennsylvania
> > and
> > > > California. (And to think the Dems are having colon spasms
about 3000
> > > > senile old
> > > > ladies in Florida!) In former days this was called
"Taxation without
> > > > representation" . Maybe some of our erstwhile colonial
overlords will
> > recognize
> > > > the term.
> > > >
> > > > You will pardon me if I don't lose sleep over the fact
that Bill Daley
> > (If
> > > > anyone would recognize vote fraud!...) has not yet found
enough dead
> > > > voters in
> > > > Florida to get Al elected.
> > > >
> > > > You may have a problem with the electoral college system,
but for the
> > > > time being
> > > > it is the law as prescribed by the constitution and I
don't recall
> > > > hearing that
> > > > that document has yet been repealed. On January 20th one
man will stand
> > > > on the
> > > > steps of the capitol and swear to "support, protect and
defend the
> > constitution
> > > > ...." Nowhere in that oath will you find the words
"fairness",
> > "democracy",
> > > > "Democrat", "will of the people", "Clinton legacy" or
"trial lawyer"
> > > > The mere
> > > > fact that Gore has threatened to attempt to overturn the
election in the
> > courts,
> > > > along with his stated belief that the constitution is "a
living
> > > > document" (read:
> > > > "silly putty") indicates to me that he cannot take this
oath in good
> > > > faith and as
> > > > such is unfit for the office.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to waste so much band width, but this has been
building up in me
> > > > and I
> > > > had to vent and you were unfortunate enough to be the one
to bring it
> > up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bill (never voting for another Democrat) Lawrence
> > > > Albuquerque, NM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > WilKo@aol.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers
are the
> > Electoral
> > > > > College and how silly that looks when the people vote
for a president
> > (Al
> > > > > Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W.
Bush as
> > president.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is that you meant Peter?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick
> > > > > San Diego
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com
writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > <<
> > > > > Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each
side sent to
> > Florida
> > > > > begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is
what I am
> > worried
> > > > > about, not the few hundred votes that swing the
election. Either guy
> > can do
> > > > > the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope
the one that
> > finally
> > > > > loses when all the votes are counted bows out
gracefully.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim Wallace
> > > > > '67 BJ8
> > > > > Fuquay-Varina, NC
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern
Standard Time,
> > > > > pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and
it does look a
> > real
> > > > > mess. A
> > > > > President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe
200-odd
> > > > > people?????????
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter Dzwig >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
From Howard Young <hoyo at bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 10:04:56 -0600
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
I' m glad i only have MGB parts for sale,personally, and Chow-Chow
puppies,"professionally".........................HoYo
dickb@cheerful.com wrote:
> Heck ray
>
> I'm not hurtin' - on the contray, I'm glad I rang the alarm and those who ran
>their mouths at me look like fools don't they?
>
> My point was that I was chastened for using the List for 1)Non-LBC and 2)
>commercial purposes - referring to Halogen Bulbs and "Building a Lawsuit",
>remember?
>
> Now I see Moss selling directly on this List; someone selling motors and
>trannies and ODs - someone who is in the business of selling cars and parts;
>and now we have the List turned into a sounding board for right-wing nutcases.
>
> I just think we aught to have a little intellectual and ethical consistency
>around here.
>
> DickB
>
> ---- you wrote:
> > 6 weeks and you're still hurting? C'mon Dick warm up that delete button.
> > RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <dickb@cheerful.com>
> > To: "ynotink" <ynotink@qwest.net>; "austin healey list"
> > <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 3:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think ofelection
> >
> >
> > >
> > > To The List
> > >
> > > Some of you practically melted my computer six weeks ago for posting a
> > warning about unsafe Firestone tires - which warning has been proven true in
> > spades. Crying that Tires weren't proper subjects of discussion on this
> > List - about as idiotic a point-of-view that I could imagine.
> > >
> > > In the past 48 hours I have seen at least three Blatant Commercial
> > Offerings, by Commercial Enterprises - not owners of LBCs, Notwithstanding
> > our supposed rules against commercial advertising. Where are the
> > complaints?
> > >
> > > NOW - I have to wallow in this clap-trap - which certainly is not even
> > remotely about Healeys or any other British cars - From A Poster Who Has
> > Never Before Posted Here - puporting to teach us what the Electoral College
> > is all about - and this from a location where they don't even know how to
> > count I guess.
> > >
> > > Mr. YNOTINK, why don't you correspond with your fellow wackos at your
> > regular location - FreeRepublic or one of the AOL chatrooms. (And you might
> > also spend a few hours reading the Federalist Papers and Constitutional
> > history, you don't know what you're talking about)
> > >
> > > DickB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---- you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've heard a lot of speculation about doing away with the electoral
> > > > college, and
> > > > senator elect "Hillary" is even making noise about sponsoring the
> > > > legislation to
> > > > do just that. I doubt if it would be an issue to her if the roles were
> > reversed.
> > > >
> > > > My High school days are a few years in the past. They occurred back in
> > > > the days
> > > > before there was a Department of Education, when students, in order to
> > > > graduate, were required to be able to read their diplomas and to have at
> > > > least a
> > > > nodding acquaintance with state, national and world history as well as
> > civics.
> > > > (You know I don't think I would know how to put a condom on a banana,
> > but
> > > > then I've never wanted to.)
> > > >
> > > > As I recall the original purpose of the electoral college was to allow
> > > > for an
> > > > orderly polling and selection process in a large, sparsely populated
> > > > nation with only
> > > > rudimentary and primitive communications and transportation systems. The
> > > > electors were sent to the capitol as elected representatives for the
> > sole
> > > > specific purpose of electing a President.
> > > >
> > > > In addition, our government was set up to try to balance the conflicting
> > > > interests of states having large urban populations as opposed to those
> > having
> > > > sparse rural populations. That's why each state has two senators
> > > > regardless of
> > > > population and few or numerous congressmen based on the voting
> > > > population. It
> > > > turns out the electoral college, based on the same proportion, serves
> > > > well the
> > > > purpose of choosing a chief executive.
> > > >
> > > > If you don't believe there are basic philosophical differences between
> > these
> > > > geographic regions, a glance at the electoral vote maps being flashed on
> > your
> > > > television all week shows that the vast majority of Gore's support is in
> > states
> > > > on the seacoasts while Bush won in all but a couple of the states in
> > between.
> > > > (The elitists call it "Flyover Country".) Incidentally I see that Bush
> > > > now has a
> > > > 17 vote lead in New Mexico and, so nobody is misled as to my preference,
> > > > I am
> > > > praying for the first time in years that my vote is the one that
> > > > delivers the
> > > > state to him.
> > > >
> > > > As for the popular vote, I don't give a damn who has the best buns or
> > who
> > > > Barbara Streisand supports (I understand she is supposed to be a great
> > thespian,
> > > > but I think her most impressive roll is when she portrays a person who
> > actually
> > > > had an original thought.) The opinions of celebrated intellectual
> > > > wannabes has
> > > > an impact totally out of proportion to their actual value, especially in
> > the
> > > > megalopoly where the stars are gods and the people are sheep.
> > > >
> > > > Ninety percent of the U.S. population lives within about 100 miles of
> > > > the ocean. To
> > > > base the entire electoral process on a this miniscule geographic area
> > > > (as would
> > > > occur in a pure democracy) and call that "THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE "
> > > > would be to
> > > > disenfranchise the entire population of the nation between Pennsylvania
> > and
> > > > California. (And to think the Dems are having colon spasms about 3000
> > > > senile old
> > > > ladies in Florida!) In former days this was called "Taxation without
> > > > representation" . Maybe some of our erstwhile colonial overlords will
> > recognize
> > > > the term.
> > > >
> > > > You will pardon me if I don't lose sleep over the fact that Bill Daley
> > (If
> > > > anyone would recognize vote fraud!...) has not yet found enough dead
> > > > voters in
> > > > Florida to get Al elected.
> > > >
> > > > You may have a problem with the electoral college system, but for the
> > > > time being
> > > > it is the law as prescribed by the constitution and I don't recall
> > > > hearing that
> > > > that document has yet been repealed. On January 20th one man will stand
> > > > on the
> > > > steps of the capitol and swear to "support, protect and defend the
> > constitution
> > > > ...." Nowhere in that oath will you find the words "fairness",
> > "democracy",
> > > > "Democrat", "will of the people", "Clinton legacy" or "trial lawyer"
> > > > The mere
> > > > fact that Gore has threatened to attempt to overturn the election in the
> > courts,
> > > > along with his stated belief that the constitution is "a living
> > > > document" (read:
> > > > "silly putty") indicates to me that he cannot take this oath in good
> > > > faith and as
> > > > such is unfit for the office.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to waste so much band width, but this has been building up in me
> > > > and I
> > > > had to vent and you were unfortunate enough to be the one to bring it
> > up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bill (never voting for another Democrat) Lawrence
> > > > Albuquerque, NM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > WilKo@aol.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the
> > Electoral
> > > > > College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a president
> > (Al
> > > > > Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as
> > president.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is that you meant Peter?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick
> > > > > San Diego
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > <<
> > > > > Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent to
> > Florida
> > > > > begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am
> > worried
> > > > > about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either guy
> > can do
> > > > > the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that
> > finally
> > > > > loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim Wallace
> > > > > '67 BJ8
> > > > > Fuquay-Varina, NC
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > > pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does look a
> > real
> > > > > mess. A
> > > > > President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
> > > > > people?????????
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter Dzwig >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
From Iwaah at aol.com
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:58:35 EST
Subject: Virtual British Car Show
why not try <A HREF="http://www.britishcarshow.com/";>Virtual British Car Show
</A>
From "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at slip.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:58:00 -0800
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Think of election outside US
Don't worry, Martin. This country functions in spite of its government, not
because of it.
We've done quite well -- economically, at least -- with nothing approaching
"leadership" in
Washington, D.C., for many years.
In a few years government, as we know it, will effectively be obsolete anyway.
Regards,
Bob
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Bob Spidell bspidell@slip.net (home)
San Jose, CA. bspidell@teknema.com (work)
`67 Austin-Healey 3000 (mine) `56 100M (Dad's) PP/ASEL
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>
> Me,
> as another German (i.e.: Kraut Hi Ed ! <g> ), I have to second the
> oppinion of Josef. Me and others around me are wondering what is going
> on over there in the States. It even took me quite a while to
> understand how your president is elected. But anyhow, we may not
> criticize your election system. I would just like to have the election
> properly finished now.
>
> Best regards
>
> Martin
> Germany
From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:28:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: ** New Mail List **
Hi all,
I'm very happy to announce a new membership benefit -- an innovation in
staff-member communications -- for all members of the Austin-Healey Club
USA. We have just created a new mail list, similar to the "healeys" and
"spridgets" lists, exclusively for club members. This new list will provide
an additional means of communication between the club staff and members. It
will serve as a medium for announcements and information related to club
business and club benefits, and as a forum for discussion of club affairs.
This new list will IN NO WAY compete with, or duplicate the functions of,
the healeys and spridgets lists.
The new list will:
-- Serve as a means to make announcements related to club business and
benefits, such as making an advance announcement of the availability of a
new book, or the re-stocking of club regalia, or a sale on club merchandise.
-- Serve as a means for members to pose questions to the staff about club
policy, operations and functions.
-- Serve as a means for club staff to contact members to take a sample poll
of member opinions on various matters related to the club.
-- Serve as a means to inform interested members about Board meetings and
decisions on club business matters.
-- Serve as a means to take discussions of club business off the healeys and
spridgets lists, where not everyone is a member and many are not interested
in those matters.
The new list will NOT:
-- Serve as a forum for discussing matters that belong on the healeys and
spridgets lists, such as tech questions and parts searches. Anyone posing
that type of question on the club list will be invited to pose the question
or request on the healeys and/or spridgets list(s) to keep those lists the
vital, valuable, "non-denominational" resources that they are.
ALL MEMBERS of the Austin-Healey Club USA are invited and strongly
encouraged to join the new list. Message volume will be very, very low
compared to the healeys and spridgets lists, so it will definitely not fill
up anyone's email in-box. You may also elect to receive the new list in
"digest" form.
To subscribe to the new AHCUSA list you merely visit a web site and fill in
and submit an electronic form located there. You will then be notified via
email within a day or two when you have been added to the AHCUSA Mail List
(unless of course you are not a member in which case you will receive a
message inviting you to join; the list is open only to dues-paying members
and Lifetime Members).
The sign-up form is located here:
http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
We hope that all AHCUSA members will visit this web site and sign up for
this new, free mail list. We believe that this innovation in staff-member
communications has great potential and further demonstrates our commitment
to serving the members, our fellow enthusiasts. Welcome to the "virtual
club meeting"!
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
President, Austin-Healey Club USA
http://www.healey.org
http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
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From Allen Edwards <allen at allen-edwards.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:44:51 -0800
Subject: Sad day for Palo Alto and Classic Cars
It is a sad day for old cars, Palo Alto, and restoration in general. I
went by Palo Alto Radiator and it is going out of business after 40
years. The property will become office space. They cleaned my radiator
and did a fine job. Too bad they are leaving.
Allen
From "Lee S. Mairs" <lmairs at cox.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:00:19 -0500
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
> I just think we aught to have a little intellectual and ethical
consistency around here.
>
> DickB
C'mon Dick. You're whining more than Al Gore. Get over it, Bush won!. get
a life or find another list to bother.
Lee Mairs
'62 BT7 Tri Carb
> > > To The List
> > >
> > > Some of you practically melted my computer six weeks ago for posting
a
> > warning about unsafe Firestone tires - which warning has been proven
true in
> > spades. Crying that Tires weren't proper subjects of discussion on this
> > List - about as idiotic a point-of-view that I could imagine.
> > >
> > > In the past 48 hours I have seen at least three Blatant Commercial
> > Offerings, by Commercial Enterprises - not owners of LBCs,
Notwithstanding
> > our supposed rules against commercial advertising. Where are the
> > complaints?
> > >
> > > NOW - I have to wallow in this clap-trap - which certainly is not even
> > remotely about Healeys or any other British cars - From A Poster Who Has
> > Never Before Posted Here - puporting to teach us what the Electoral
College
> > is all about - and this from a location where they don't even know how
to
> > count I guess.
> > >
> > > Mr. YNOTINK, why don't you correspond with your fellow wackos at your
> > regular location - FreeRepublic or one of the AOL chatrooms. (And you
might
> > also spend a few hours reading the Federalist Papers and Constitutional
> > history, you don't know what you're talking about)
> > >
> > > DickB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---- you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've heard a lot of speculation about doing away with the electoral
> > > > college, and
> > > > senator elect "Hillary" is even making noise about sponsoring the
> > > > legislation to
> > > > do just that. I doubt if it would be an issue to her if the roles
were
> > reversed.
> > > >
> > > > My High school days are a few years in the past. They occurred back
in
> > > > the days
> > > > before there was a Department of Education, when students, in order
to
> > > > graduate, were required to be able to read their diplomas and to
have at
> > > > least a
> > > > nodding acquaintance with state, national and world history as well
as
> > civics.
> > > > (You know I don't think I would know how to put a condom on a
banana,
> > but
> > > > then I've never wanted to.)
> > > >
> > > > As I recall the original purpose of the electoral college was to
allow
> > > > for an
> > > > orderly polling and selection process in a large, sparsely populated
> > > > nation with only
> > > > rudimentary and primitive communications and transportation systems.
The
> > > > electors were sent to the capitol as elected representatives for the
> > sole
> > > > specific purpose of electing a President.
> > > >
> > > > In addition, our government was set up to try to balance the
conflicting
> > > > interests of states having large urban populations as opposed to
those
> > having
> > > > sparse rural populations. That's why each state has two senators
> > > > regardless of
> > > > population and few or numerous congressmen based on the voting
> > > > population. It
> > > > turns out the electoral college, based on the same proportion,
serves
> > > > well the
> > > > purpose of choosing a chief executive.
> > > >
> > > > If you don't believe there are basic philosophical differences
between
> > these
> > > > geographic regions, a glance at the electoral vote maps being
flashed on
> > your
> > > > television all week shows that the vast majority of Gore's support
is in
> > states
> > > > on the seacoasts while Bush won in all but a couple of the states in
> > between.
> > > > (The elitists call it "Flyover Country".) Incidentally I see that
Bush
> > > > now has a
> > > > 17 vote lead in New Mexico and, so nobody is misled as to my
preference,
> > > > I am
> > > > praying for the first time in years that my vote is the one that
> > > > delivers the
> > > > state to him.
> > > >
> > > > As for the popular vote, I don't give a damn who has the best buns
or
> > who
> > > > Barbara Streisand supports (I understand she is supposed to be a
great
> > thespian,
> > > > but I think her most impressive roll is when she portrays a person
who
> > actually
> > > > had an original thought.) The opinions of celebrated intellectual
> > > > wannabes has
> > > > an impact totally out of proportion to their actual value,
especially in
> > the
> > > > megalopoly where the stars are gods and the people are sheep.
> > > >
> > > > Ninety percent of the U.S. population lives within about 100 miles
of
> > > > the ocean. To
> > > > base the entire electoral process on a this miniscule geographic
area
> > > > (as would
> > > > occur in a pure democracy) and call that "THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE "
> > > > would be to
> > > > disenfranchise the entire population of the nation between
Pennsylvania
> > and
> > > > California. (And to think the Dems are having colon spasms about
3000
> > > > senile old
> > > > ladies in Florida!) In former days this was called "Taxation without
> > > > representation" . Maybe some of our erstwhile colonial overlords
will
> > recognize
> > > > the term.
> > > >
> > > > You will pardon me if I don't lose sleep over the fact that Bill
Daley
> > (If
> > > > anyone would recognize vote fraud!...) has not yet found enough dead
> > > > voters in
> > > > Florida to get Al elected.
> > > >
> > > > You may have a problem with the electoral college system, but for
the
> > > > time being
> > > > it is the law as prescribed by the constitution and I don't recall
> > > > hearing that
> > > > that document has yet been repealed. On January 20th one man will
stand
> > > > on the
> > > > steps of the capitol and swear to "support, protect and defend the
> > constitution
> > > > ...." Nowhere in that oath will you find the words "fairness",
> > "democracy",
> > > > "Democrat", "will of the people", "Clinton legacy" or "trial
lawyer"
> > > > The mere
> > > > fact that Gore has threatened to attempt to overturn the election in
the
> > courts,
> > > > along with his stated belief that the constitution is "a living
> > > > document" (read:
> > > > "silly putty") indicates to me that he cannot take this oath in good
> > > > faith and as
> > > > such is unfit for the office.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to waste so much band width, but this has been building up in
me
> > > > and I
> > > > had to vent and you were unfortunate enough to be the one to bring
it
> > up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bill (never voting for another Democrat) Lawrence
> > > > Albuquerque, NM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > WilKo@aol.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the
> > Electoral
> > > > > College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a
president
> > (Al
> > > > > Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as
> > president.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is that you meant Peter?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick
> > > > > San Diego
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > <<
> > > > > Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent
to
> > Florida
> > > > > begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am
> > worried
> > > > > about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either
guy
> > can do
> > > > > the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that
> > finally
> > > > > loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim Wallace
> > > > > '67 BJ8
> > > > > Fuquay-Varina, NC
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > > pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does
look a
> > real
> > > > > mess. A
> > > > > President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
> > > > > people?????????
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter Dzwig >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
From "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 15:45:31 -0600
Subject: Re: ** New Mail List **
Hey Reid...what will it cost us if you take dickb@cheerful.com??? We'll pay
extra...
WST
----- Original Message -----
From: Reid Trummel <AHCUSA@excite.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Cc: <AHCUSA@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 1:28 PM
Subject: ** New Mail List **
> Hi all,
>
> I'm very happy to announce a new membership benefit -- an innovation in
> staff-member communications -- for all members of the Austin-Healey Club
> USA. We have just created a new mail list, similar to the "healeys" and
> "spridgets" lists, exclusively for club members. This new list will
provide
> an additional means of communication between the club staff and members.
It
> will serve as a medium for announcements and information related to club
> business and club benefits, and as a forum for discussion of club affairs.
>
> This new list will IN NO WAY compete with, or duplicate the functions of,
> the healeys and spridgets lists.
>
> The new list will:
>
> -- Serve as a means to make announcements related to club business and
> benefits, such as making an advance announcement of the availability of a
> new book, or the re-stocking of club regalia, or a sale on club
merchandise.
>
> -- Serve as a means for members to pose questions to the staff about club
> policy, operations and functions.
>
> -- Serve as a means for club staff to contact members to take a sample
poll
> of member opinions on various matters related to the club.
>
> -- Serve as a means to inform interested members about Board meetings and
> decisions on club business matters.
>
> -- Serve as a means to take discussions of club business off the healeys
and
> spridgets lists, where not everyone is a member and many are not
interested
> in those matters.
>
> The new list will NOT:
>
> -- Serve as a forum for discussing matters that belong on the healeys and
> spridgets lists, such as tech questions and parts searches. Anyone posing
> that type of question on the club list will be invited to pose the
question
> or request on the healeys and/or spridgets list(s) to keep those lists the
> vital, valuable, "non-denominational" resources that they are.
>
> ALL MEMBERS of the Austin-Healey Club USA are invited and strongly
> encouraged to join the new list. Message volume will be very, very low
> compared to the healeys and spridgets lists, so it will definitely not
fill
> up anyone's email in-box. You may also elect to receive the new list in
> "digest" form.
>
> To subscribe to the new AHCUSA list you merely visit a web site and fill
in
> and submit an electronic form located there. You will then be notified
via
> email within a day or two when you have been added to the AHCUSA Mail List
> (unless of course you are not a member in which case you will receive a
> message inviting you to join; the list is open only to dues-paying members
> and Lifetime Members).
>
> The sign-up form is located here:
>
> http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
>
> We hope that all AHCUSA members will visit this web site and sign up for
> this new, free mail list. We believe that this innovation in staff-member
> communications has great potential and further demonstrates our commitment
> to serving the members, our fellow enthusiasts. Welcome to the "virtual
> club meeting"!
>
> Cheers,
> Reid Trummel
> President, Austin-Healey Club USA
> http://www.healey.org
> http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:26:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Healey History Question
Can someone please tell me which big Healey it was that Paddy Hopkirk and
Donald Morley drove in the 1963 Sebring 12-Hour Race? I know that there
were two big Healeys in that race, and that Olthoff and Bucknum drove 56 FAC
to 12th place overall, and that Hopkirk and Morley drove their big Healey to
26th overall, but which big Healey was it?
I'm doing just a final little bit of research for the 2001 Austin-Healey
Calendar (featuring the Morley twins), and I'm lacking this one little
tidbit. TIA.
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
2 x BN2
2 x AN5
http://www.healey.org
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From Healybj8 at aol.com
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:34:36 EST
Subject: Re: ** New Mail List **
In a message dated 11/12/2000 4:52:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
wsthompson@thicko.com writes:
<<
Hey Reid...what will it cost us if you take dickb@cheerful.com??? We'll pay
extra...
WS >>
I'll second that! ;o)
From Howard Young <hoyo at bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:57:27 -0600
Subject: Re: Is the list down again?
Well, "Agent" Cooper ,
YOU are not requesting enough information on SUV tire recalls,you have NO
parts for sale, business or other- wise,you have NO opinion of the 'mercin
political system and far as i can tell are neither a Gold level purist or a
"Nasty Boy"!!!!!!!!!!!!
wadda ya' expect!!!!!
close enuf' to Christmas,
HoHoHoYo
Coop1 wrote:
> I've received 1 message in 16 hours. That's just not possible. Anyone else
> having problems receiving Healey list posts? If so how can we fix this?
> Coop
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:53:28 EST
Subject: Re: More interior questions...
In a message dated 11/11/00 9:47:46 AM, William.Moyer@millersv.edu writes:
<< < Gary, you mean this isn't in the concours standards???? I believe you
fellows have missed a category! Time to hit the books. >>
Here's a marketing/new product opportunity -- Right next to the aerosol
intended to give your Jaguar that "new leather" smell, we can have another
one to give your Healey that "old moldy carpet" smell.
Cheers
Gary
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:05:53 EST
Subject: Re: Gas problem
In a message dated 11/11/00 1:19:48 PM, stepheng48@home.com writes:
<< When I start the car, it runs fine for 3-5 minutes then putters out. I can
wait a few minutes and it will start up again only to fizzle out again in 1-20
seconds. >>
Are you saying that it won't keep going at idle or rather that it won't keep
going even if you use the throttle to give it more gas?
Cheers
Gary
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:22:09 EST
Subject: Re: Healey Art
Looked at the website for Classic Machines. If I'm reading it right, they're
selling framed reproductions of portions of marketing brochures. The Healey
one, is listed at GBP150 -- I assumed that's "Great Britain Pounds" which
would mean about $225 US.
Seems like a lot when most of these brochures, in the original, sell for
considerably less.
Cheers
Gary
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:38:56 EST
Subject: Re: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
In a message dated 11/11/00 2:46:23 PM, rich.chrysler@sympatico.ca writes:
<< Perhaps repairs made of something stable, yet strong and able to stand the
expansion and contraction is the answer. Maybe some of the repair success
stories are because of the material used for the repairs.
What exactly was the material used in the successful instances?
Rich Chrysler >>
Is there any good reason for repairing any but the old wheels for the BN1s
and BN2s for which there isn't a good reproduction being made?
Cheers
Gary
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:45:36 EST
Subject: Re: Non-Healey content: election comments
In a message dated 11/11/00 2:47:41 PM, kturk@ala.net writes:
<< Keith Turk ( so much for accepting the fact that you LOST.... and moving
on.... ) >>
Keith, the only problem with that statement is that it isn't a "fact" that
anyone lost. Not Gore at the present time and not Bush, even if Gore is
credited with a majority by a few hundred votes. The problem is that the
candidates didn't succeed in differentiating themselves from one another
sufficiently to get a differential in the votes larger than the margin of
error in machine counting or manual counting.
If Gore had the nerve to state that he was pro-abortion, for the outlawing of
handguns purchased at gun shows without background checks, against the death
penalty and a few other points that he could have made that would have
differentiated him from Bush, and argued strongly that he felt Bush had been
given too much assistance from anti-environmental big business interests, and
Bush had argued his positions more strongly, then who knows who might have w
on, but at least we'd have a statistically-significant majority to rely upon.
Cheers
Gary
From MOWOGMAN at aol.com
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:46:43 EST
Subject: Re: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
I suppose cost, and wanting to keep original parts on a car?
John.
From MOWOGMAN at aol.com
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:51:19 EST
Subject: Is the list down?
The list isn't down, I think we are all just sick of the non list related
things that go on here. The name calling is especially unwelcome.
By the way, I love AOL 6.0 because it finally has a "sort" feature!! Now
when those non LBC threads start up, I sort for them, and delete them in one
shot! That goes for the people that write them as well.
I would also suggest that if you are creating a list related response to an
other wise un related thread, rename it to the new topic, so the rest of us
will read it.
thanks
John
Oostburg, WI
'60 BT7
'60 Mini
'80 TR7 (freshly repainted Carmine red!)
'69 AA
'57 Isetta
Etc.
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:54:44 EST
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
In a message dated 11/11/00 8:45:56 PM, dickb@cheerful.com writes:
<<
Now I see Moss selling directly on this List; someone selling motors and
trannies and ODs - someone who is in the business of selling cars and parts;
and now we have the List turned into a sounding board for right-wing
nutcases. >>
If the messages were read carefully, it would have been noted that one of our
list members was in a position to know what Moss had to sell and made it
known to the list in advance of general announcement. While that might be
argued to be somewhat unethical and unfair to those not on our list, I
certainly wouldn't call it "Moss selling directly." Instead, as with some
Healey owners who called me for some advice on things that were available at
extremely reasonable prices, I would be grateful to that member.
Cheers
Gary
From "Bradley H. Simmons" <email at liquidparadigm.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:08:29 -0600
Subject: Longbridge or Abingdon ... MM ???
I have a 1958 100-6 BN6 (aka. MM ... ???).
I would be most grateful if someone would be kind enough to enlighten me
regarding two issues:
1. How does one differentiate between an Abington Healey and a
Longbridge Healey?
2. Is it correct to use the term "MM" or "Mille Miglia" to reference the
"6-port" 100-6 BN6 Healeys?
Thank you.
Regards,
Bradley H. Simmons
1958 100-6 BN6 ... ???
From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:06:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Longbridge or Abingdon ... MM ???
On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:08:29 -0600, Bradley H. Simmons wrote:
>> I have a 1958 100-6 BN6 (aka. MM ... ???). I would be most grateful if
someone would be kind enough to enlighten me regarding two issues:
1. How does one differentiate between an Abington Healey and a Longbridge
Healey? <<
By Car Number, referencing the original production records on file at the
British Motor Heritrage Industry Trust. See page 115 of the 2000
Austin-Healey Resource Book, or:
http://www.healey.org/production.shtml
Note that the email address of Anders Clausager's replacement for
certificate preparation, Gillian Bardsley, is also available there. I just
received an email message from her a few days ago and Webmaster Brad Weldon
updated the website in nothing flat -- he's good!
>> 2. Is it correct to use the term "MM" or "Mille Miglia" to reference the
"6-port" 100-6 BN6 Healeys? <<
That may be a matter of opinion. At one extreme some might say that it is
never correct to label any Healey a "Mille Miglia" or "MM" model since it
was never an official BMC model name and it never appeared in BMC sales
literature. At the other extremely some might say that any 100-6 with a
six-port head qualifies for the appelation Mille Miglia and/or MM.
My opinion is that it is a stretch to call any BN6 a Mille Miglia/MM since
the title was created for the BN4 with the improved cylinder head, to
differentiate it from the earlier BN4 cars with the gallery head. ALL BN6
series cars had the new head and so did not need to be differentiated from
anything. For the BN6 it's moot.
Moreover, all references to Mille Miglia/MM that I have seen are in
comtemporary road test reports (with the one exception of a Donald Healey
Motor Company -- NOT Austin/BMC -- price list that cites the "MM") and are
all for the BN4; never the BN6. Apparently by the time the BN6 was
introduced (April 1958), the short-lived Mille Miglia/MM name had been
dropped.
All of that said, there are no rules (remember, it was never an official
name) and if you want to call your BN6 a Mille Miglia model I don't think
anyone would object too stroungly. In one technical sense it would be
correct since the BN6 cars all had the engine mods that spurred the use of
the name Mille Miglia in the first place.
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
2 x BN2
2 x AN5
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From Howard Young <hoyo at bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:25:53 -0600
Subject: Re: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
yeah,
after examining ,and consultation w/ the now-defunct "Sports Cars
Plus", i'm only gonna
replace as much metal as possible,
MOWOGMAN@aol.com wrote:
> I suppose cost, and wanting to keep original parts on a car?
>
> John.
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 23:28:19 EST
Subject: Re No Healey content: Election views outside U.S.
Those outside the U.S. may have difficulty understanding why the issue on
whose votes have been counted in Florida and why a manual recount might be
preferred to the machine count.
The problems arise with the mechanical system now in use in most states. The
"ballot" consists of a loose-leaf book fastened over a metal grid with holes
in it. Under the grid, the voter inserts a card, similar in weight to the old
computer cards, which has a set of squares partially punched out that match
the holes in the grid. The voter looks at the "ballot" and selects a
candidate by pushing a metal stylus through the hole in the grid next to the
candidate's name, thus (in theory) pushing out a square in the card
underneath. When the voter is through, he removes the card and turns it in
to the vote registrar. The votes are then counted by machines similar to
old-style IBM punch card counters.
The problems arise when (a) the names don't line up easily or obviously with
the holes in the card (b) the voter changes his mind and tries to punch a
second choice, or (c) if the voter doesn't push the entire little square
loose from the card. Each of these situations is argued to have happened in
Florida where (a) another candidate's name was opposite the square that
appeared to be related to the Gore box, giving the vote to the wrong
candidate, (b) when realizing they'd pushed the wrong hole, voters punched
out the right hole, thus leaving two holes punched and rendering that ballot
unacceptable or (c) the tab didn't break free from the card, and in the
machine got pushed back and the vote therefore didn't get counted.
In a machine recount, some tabs can be broken free on the second run through,
which was why both candidates got more votes in the second round than in the
first, with Gore getting slightly more "new" votes than Bush. In a manual
recount, the vote counter can see that the tab was in fact pressed out, but
hadn't broken free.
As anyone familiar with manual counting and machine counting of anything can
readily see, both systems are prone to some error. The problem is that the
margins in Florida are smaller than the margin of error of either method. In
addition, in several counties that had "confusing" ballots, it has been noted
that third-party candidates have gotten many more votes than would have been
predicted by the voting behavior in other counties, which is why some voters
are arguing that they should be given the chance to vote again.
This ain't going to be easy to sort out, and unfortunately, the spin-doctors
from both parties, probably so used to making points during the campaign, are
now obfuscating the actual facts and making arguments that don't seem helpful
in resolving the confusion.
Cheers
Gary
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 23:42:14 EST
Subject: Re: Longbridge or Abingdon ... MM ???
In a message dated 11/12/00 7:13:08 PM, email@liquidparadigm.com writes:
<< I would be most grateful if someone would be kind enough to enlighten me
regarding two issues:
1. How does one differentiate between an Abington Healey and a
Longbridge Healey?
2. Is it correct to use the term "MM" or "Mille Miglia" to reference the
"6-port" 100-6 BN6 Healeys?
Thank you. >>
Both are interesting questions, which we researched in some detail for the
book we wrote (Restoration Guide to the Austin-Healey 100/100-6/3000). The
only exact way to tell whether a BN4 was manufactured at Abingdon or
Longbridge is on the basis of the chassis number. (You don't need to worry
about any of the others, since BN1s and 2s were all manufactured at
Longbridge) and BN6s, BN7s, BT7s, and BJ7/8s were all manufactured at
Abingdon. Also, no "gallery-head" BN4s were manufactured at Abingdon.
However, BN4s with both "early-style" and "late-style" interiors were
manufactured at Abingdon, and BN4s with both "gallery-head" and separate intak
e manifold engines were manufactured at Longbridge.
In some of the period road tests published in magazines, the separate intake
manifold 2600cc engines were referred to as MMs, (apparently because it was
anticipated that both styles would be sold like the 100Ms) but the MM term
was never used in factory marketing literature and the gallery-head engines
were phased out when the separate manifold engines were introduced.
Cheers
Gary Anderson
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 23:07:22 -0600
Subject: Re: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
More cost effective, more fun, educational, you get to keep a perfectly
servicable "original" part.RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
>
> In a message dated 11/11/00 2:46:23 PM, rich.chrysler@sympatico.ca writes:
>
> << Perhaps repairs made of something stable, yet strong and able to stand
the
> expansion and contraction is the answer. Maybe some of the repair success
> stories are because of the material used for the repairs.
> What exactly was the material used in the successful instances?
> Rich Chrysler >>
>
> Is there any good reason for repairing any but the old wheels for the BN1s
> and BN2s for which there isn't a good reproduction being made?
> Cheers
> Gary
From Ron Rader <rader at interworld.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:17:26 -0800
Subject: SELLING ON THE LIST
Gary:
I for one am not offended by the selling or offering that occurs on the list.
I find it enlightening and helpful.
Ron
Editorgary@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 11/11/00 8:45:56 PM, dickb@cheerful.com writes:
>
> <<
> Now I see Moss selling directly on this List; someone selling motors and
> trannies and ODs - someone who is in the business of selling cars and parts;
> and now we have the List turned into a sounding board for right-wing
> nutcases. >>
>
> If the messages were read carefully, it would have been noted that one of our
> list members was in a position to know what Moss had to sell and made it
> known to the list in advance of general announcement. While that might be
> argued to be somewhat unethical and unfair to those not on our list, I
> certainly wouldn't call it "Moss selling directly." Instead, as with some
> Healey owners who called me for some advice on things that were available at
> extremely reasonable prices, I would be grateful to that member.
> Cheers
> Gary
From "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 06:54:20 -0500
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
ray feehan wrote:
> I also can't understand all the carping about non-Healey threads. They are
> interesting and they don't last very long.
Just like the *Healey* threads --- interesting and they don't last very
long.
Regards,
Kent McLean
'56 BN2 rusting away
From "Stephen Graham" <stepheng48 at home.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 07:15:17 -0800
Subject: Re: Gas problem
It dies with or without throttle.
Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: Gas problem
>
> In a message dated 11/11/00 1:19:48 PM, stepheng48@home.com writes:
>
> << When I start the car, it runs fine for 3-5 minutes then putters out. I
can
> wait a few minutes and it will start up again only to fizzle out again in
1-20
> seconds. >>
>
> Are you saying that it won't keep going at idle or rather that it won't
keep
> going even if you use the throttle to give it more gas?
> Cheers
> Gary
From "Marci" <marci at cwo.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 06:39:51 -0800
Subject: 1964 Austin Healey Mk III for sale
Hi-
1964 Austin Healey Mk III for sale.
Same owner since 1972-- all receipts since then. Runs great: great daily
driver or clean restorable example. $15K absolutely firm.
Marci Camacho
707-874-1958
From J & L Armour <sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 00:45:00 +0000
Subject: Historic Healeys
Reid,Thank goodness someone is interested in the activities of the
Donald Healey Motor Co in addition to that M.G. Competition Dept. that
built red & white rally cars-good ones but not the same as a lightweight
race car.
If my memory serves me right;
1963 54FAC SEBRING in U.K. owned by A.Carter
56FAC U.S.A. ex P.Coombes
57FAC spare car ex Coombs now in Australia
1964 767KNX U.K. owned by T.Worswick
1965 DAC953C Australia see recent BRITISH CARS
Just to have spoken to Geoff Healey,Roger Menadue and some the works
drivers of the results achieved by such a small team is worth the
isolation of owning a Healey blue with white roof "unknown!!!!!"
Regards Joe
BN4 1st car at 17 yrs
Healey G.T. Donald Healey Motor Co (chassis plate)
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 06:40:05 -0800
Subject: RE: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
Actually it can! I have set up Outlook to automatically delete messages
from people I don't want to hear from. It's great!
Jonathan Lane
-----Original Message-----
From: Csooch1@aol.com [mailto:Csooch1@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 8:48 PM
To: dickb@cheerful.com; feehanr@cadvision.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think
ofelection
In a message dated 11/11/00 10:46:01 PM Central Standard Time,
dickb@cheerful.com writes:
<< 6 weeks and you're still hurting? C'mon Dick warm up that delete button.
> RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
>>
Too bad that button doesn't work for people.
Bored in NJ
From "Dave BOWERS" <BOWERSDA at uvsc.edu>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:20:51 -0700
Subject: Re:
As a U.S. veteran of Vietnam, I appreciate your note (even though I don't
pretend to think it was aimed at me personally). I don't participate in many
threads, but, wanted to acknowledge your post to the list.
I 'DO' believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion and that's what makes
this country great. It's too bad that so many in positions of influence seem
to think their opinion is worth more than anybody else's (sp).
I prefer:
Healey's (personality) to Honda's (cookie cutter),
Constitutional Republic (individual rights) to Democracy (mob rule), and
Dialog (mutual Respect) to Slander (Mud Slinging).
I appreciate your comments and that of most on the list whether it be
technical, personal, or commercial. I hope that we may ALL benefit in
some degree to each other's feelings and observations. After all,
That's what I was fighting for.
Respectfully
Dave Bowers
56 BN2
>>> "Rich C" <rich.chrysler@sympatico.ca> 11/11/00 3:41:43 PM >>>
Please excuse this unrelated note to this list, but:
To all veterans everywhere in the free world,
We remember, and we thank you.
Rich Chrysler
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:08:30 -0500
Subject: Re: Gas problem
Hi Stephen,
I have not been following this thread but your symptoms sound very like those
caused by a blocked fuel tank vent.
Additionally I would suggest that you have check that the spark does not go
away as the engine stops. By that I mean, things like a heat sensitive ignition
problem will usually result in a deterioration of the spark quality which will
eventually kill the engine. This is easy to check with a scope, a little more
difficult without.
As always in these cases it is important to isolate the system that is failing
then begin the diagnosis. Generally if the float chambers are full to the
correct level when the engine stops you can eliminate the fuel system as the
cause.
Hope this helps.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Stephen Graham wrote:
> It dies with or without throttle.
>
> Stephen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Gas problem
>
> >
> > In a message dated 11/11/00 1:19:48 PM, stepheng48@home.com writes:
> >
> > << When I start the car, it runs fine for 3-5 minutes then putters out. I
> can
> > wait a few minutes and it will start up again only to fizzle out again in
> 1-20
> > seconds. >>
> >
> > Are you saying that it won't keep going at idle or rather that it won't
> keep
> > going even if you use the throttle to give it more gas?
> > Cheers
> > Gary
From "Jerry Costanzo" <costan0 at attglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:08:47 -0800
Subject: rust stains on a new top
Do any of you know how to get rust stains (or something that looks like
rust) off of a new vinyl top. I have tried some vinyl cleaner and some
stronger solvent with no results.
Jerry
From John Loftus <loftusdesign at home.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:29:12 -0800
Subject: Re: rust stains on a new top
Hi Jerry,
Rit Dye (the fabric color dye sold in supermarkets and drugstores in the
U.S.) used to offer a "rust stain remover" product. This was years ago
that I used it to remove rust stains from a headliner but I would think
they still offer it. Worked very well on the headliner material and was
inexpensive.
G'luck,
John
Jerry Costanzo wrote:
>
> Do any of you know how to get rust stains (or something that looks like
> rust) off of a new vinyl top. I have tried some vinyl cleaner and some
> stronger solvent with no results.
>
> Jerry
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:00:13 -0600
Subject: Re: Gas problem
Hi Michael
Wonder what you are suggesting as the best spark plug and spark plug leads for
our
vehicles.
Kind regards
Ed
Saskatoon
Michael Salter wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>
> I have not been following this thread but your symptoms sound very like those
> caused by a blocked fuel tank vent.
> Additionally I would suggest that you have check that the spark does not go
> away as the engine stops. By that I mean, things like a heat sensitive
>ignition
> problem will usually result in a deterioration of the spark quality which will
> eventually kill the engine. This is easy to check with a scope, a little more
> difficult without.
> As always in these cases it is important to isolate the system that is failing
> then begin the diagnosis. Generally if the float chambers are full to the
> correct level when the engine stops you can eliminate the fuel system as the
> cause.
> Hope this helps.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Mike Salter
> http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Stephen Graham wrote:
>
> > It dies with or without throttle.
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
> > To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: Gas problem
> >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/11/00 1:19:48 PM, stepheng48@home.com writes:
> > >
> > > << When I start the car, it runs fine for 3-5 minutes then putters out. I
> > can
> > > wait a few minutes and it will start up again only to fizzle out again in
> > 1-20
> > > seconds. >>
> > >
> > > Are you saying that it won't keep going at idle or rather that it won't
> > keep
> > > going even if you use the throttle to give it more gas?
> > > Cheers
> > > Gary
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:06:54 EST
Subject: Re: Gas problem
In a message dated 11/13/00 4:19:40 AM, stepheng48@home.com writes:
<<
It dies with or without throttle.
Stephen >>
Then sounds to me as if Dick B has a reasonable answer -- an insufficient
flow of fuel due to a failing pump or an air leak certainly would cause
exactly the symptons you've described. Your car runs off the fuel pumped
slowly into the float bowls, but uses it up faster than it can be
replenished, and you "run out of gas."
Cheers
Gary
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:27:03 EST
Subject: Garage Floors
A while back we had a thread about garage finishes. Now I'm getting ready to
do something about mine. I'm interested in the experiences of anyone who has
had their garage floor finish down for at least two years -- how has it
worked out? Peeled or lifted? Easy to clean? Kept a nice appearance?
We're currently considering four options: garage floor paint, linoleum, tile,
or garage carpet (Griot's, among others, sells garage carpet.)
Any advice?
Cheers
Gary
From Terry Blubaugh <tblubaugh at earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:03:49 -0800
Subject: Re: Garage Floors
Gary,
In 1998 I helped my son paint the floor in his new 3-car garage in San
Diego. We
followed all the preparation and application instructions, and in the
beginning,
the medium gray floor looked beautiful. Now, after two years, the
epoxy paint
has started to flake and peel. I don't remember the name of the
paint, but it
was a top name brand.
Terry Blubaugh
Editorgary@aol.com wrote:
> A while back we had a thread about garage finishes. Now I'm getting ready to
> do something about mine. I'm interested in the experiences of anyone who has
> had their garage floor finish down for at least two years -- how has it
> worked out? Peeled or lifted? Easy to clean? Kept a nice appearance?
> We're currently considering four options: garage floor paint, linoleum, tile,
> or garage carpet (Griot's, among others, sells garage carpet.)
>
> Any advice?
>
> Cheers
> Gary
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:09:40 -0500
Subject: Re: Gas problem
Hi Ed,
I seem to recall that we have been round this spark plug circuit before but
IMHO with
standard coil ignition nothing seems to work beter than NGK BP5ES plugs and
copper
core wires.
I realize that there is an issue with radio interferrence when solid core wires
are
used, but no one has ever been able to clearly explain to me what the issue is
nor I
have never had any complaint...
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"M.E.&E.A. Driver" wrote:
> Hi Michael
>
> Wonder what you are suggesting as the best spark plug and spark plug leads
>for our
> vehicles.
>
> Kind regards
> Ed
> Saskatoon
>
> Michael Salter wrote:
>
> > Hi Stephen,
> >
> > I have not been following this thread but your symptoms sound very like
>those
> > caused by a blocked fuel tank vent.
> > Additionally I would suggest that you have check that the spark does not go
> > away as the engine stops. By that I mean, things like a heat sensitive
>ignition
> > problem will usually result in a deterioration of the spark quality which
>will
> > eventually kill the engine. This is easy to check with a scope, a little
>more
> > difficult without.
> > As always in these cases it is important to isolate the system that is
>failing
> > then begin the diagnosis. Generally if the float chambers are full to the
> > correct level when the engine stops you can eliminate the fuel system as the
> > cause.
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mike Salter
> > http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > Stephen Graham wrote:
> >
> > > It dies with or without throttle.
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
> > > To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:05 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Gas problem
> > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 11/11/00 1:19:48 PM, stepheng48@home.com writes:
> > > >
> > > > << When I start the car, it runs fine for 3-5 minutes then putters out.
>I
> > > can
> > > > wait a few minutes and it will start up again only to fizzle out again
>in
> > > 1-20
> > > > seconds. >>
> > > >
> > > > Are you saying that it won't keep going at idle or rather that it won't
> > > keep
> > > > going even if you use the throttle to give it more gas?
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Gary
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:15:58 -0600
Subject: Re: Garage Floors
Hi Gary
Just over two years ago we painted (Margaret and me) the garage floor with a
arcylic latex paint. The surface has neither peeled or lifted. It is very easy
to
clean. The paint has not faded or discoloured from the odd oil leak from either
LBC. We spent a fair amount of time cleaning the original paint (oil base ) off,
then washing the surface several times with the version of Tide for grease;
allowed the floor to dry completely before painting. The paint we used was the
best quality Ben. Moore available and was recommended by the paint store we deal
with.
Kind regards
Ed
Editorgary@aol.com wrote:
> A while back we had a thread about garage finishes. Now I'm getting ready to
> do something about mine. I'm interested in the experiences of anyone who has
> had their garage floor finish down for at least two years -- how has it
> worked out? Peeled or lifted? Easy to clean? Kept a nice appearance?
> We're currently considering four options: garage floor paint, linoleum, tile,
> or garage carpet (Griot's, among others, sells garage carpet.)
>
> Any advice?
>
> Cheers
> Gary
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:14:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Non-Healey content: election comments
Gary
If you believe that - Gore DIDN'T --------" If Gore had the nerve to state
that he was pro-abortion, for the outlawing of
> handguns purchased at gun shows without background checks,..."
you must have been in Brigadoon or some other mystical locale, - possibly
seeking that elusive 100S. <G>
DickB
---- you wrote:
>
> In a message dated 11/11/00 2:47:41 PM, kturk@ala.net writes:
>
> << Keith Turk ( so much for accepting the fact that you LOST.... and moving
> on.... ) >>
>
> Keith, the only problem with that statement is that it isn't a "fact" that
> anyone lost. Not Gore at the present time and not Bush, even if Gore is
> credited with a majority by a few hundred votes. The problem is that the
> candidates didn't succeed in differentiating themselves from one another
> sufficiently to get a differential in the votes larger than the margin of
> error in machine counting or manual counting.
> If Gore had the nerve to state that he was pro-abortion, for the outlawing of
> handguns purchased at gun shows without background checks, against the death
> penalty and a few other points that he could have made that would have
> differentiated him from Bush, and argued strongly that he felt Bush had been
> given too much assistance from anti-environmental big business interests, and
> Bush had argued his positions more strongly, then who knows who might have w
> on, but at least we'd have a statistically-significant majority to rely upon.
> Cheers
> Gary
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
From "John Snyder" <johnahsn at olypen.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:33:33 -0800
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
I agree with Ron and Gary. I have found this List to be very helpful with
selling un-needed Austin Healey parts to someone who can use them, and for
buying parts for my cars from someone who has what I need. I'm not a
business, just an old guy who restores BN7 & BT7 cars.
John Snyder
'60 BT7
'61 BN7 MK2
'62 BT7 MK2
----------
> From: Ron Rader <rader@interworld.net>
> To: Editorgary@aol.com
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: SELLING ON THE LIST
> Date: Sunday, November 12, 2000 10:17 PM
>
>
> Gary:
> I for one am not offended by the selling or offering that occurs on the
list.
> I find it enlightening and helpful.
> Ron
>
> Editorgary@aol.com wrote:
>
> > If the messages were read carefully, it would have been noted that one
of our
> > list members was in a position to know what Moss had to sell and made
it
> > known to the list in advance of general announcement. While that might
be
> > argued to be somewhat unethical and unfair to those not on our list, I
> > certainly wouldn't call it "Moss selling directly." Instead, as with
some
> > Healey owners who called me for some advice on things that were
available at
> > extremely reasonable prices, I would be grateful to that member.
> > Cheers
> > Gary
From "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:31:56 -0600
Subject: Re: Garage Floors
I Have painted 3 floors in my life and been dissatisfied with each and every
one of them... What with Wear Peeling and so on...
Your question comes at a time when I am considering one more just to prove
to myself that it can be done... That and I like the idea of a clean
floor... I am only doing the Hundreds Garage...not the main shop... I just
don't trust the products there and had a Very High quality finish put on the
concrete...
Let me know what we find here Ed...
----- Original Message -----
From: "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: <Editorgary@aol.com>
Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: Garage Floors
>
> Hi Gary
>
> Just over two years ago we painted (Margaret and me) the garage floor with
a
> arcylic latex paint. The surface has neither peeled or lifted. It is very
easy to
> clean. The paint has not faded or discoloured from the odd oil leak from
either
> LBC. We spent a fair amount of time cleaning the original paint (oil
base ) off,
> then washing the surface several times with the version of Tide for
grease;
> allowed the floor to dry completely before painting. The paint we used was
the
> best quality Ben. Moore available and was recommended by the paint store
we deal
> with.
>
> Kind regards
> Ed
>
>
> Editorgary@aol.com wrote:
>
> > A while back we had a thread about garage finishes. Now I'm getting
ready to
> > do something about mine. I'm interested in the experiences of anyone
who has
> > had their garage floor finish down for at least two years -- how has it
> > worked out? Peeled or lifted? Easy to clean? Kept a nice appearance?
> > We're currently considering four options: garage floor paint, linoleum,
tile,
> > or garage carpet (Griot's, among others, sells garage carpet.)
> >
> > Any advice?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Gary
From "Neil Trelenberg" <neilberg at telus.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:49:32 -0800
Subject: Re: rust stains on a new top
Jerry, try peroxide, but on a inconspicuous spot first. Let it set for about
a hour to make sure it doesn't bleach the top. It works great on carpeting
that is colour fast. PLEASE try it on some hidden spot first. It has worked
on grape juice spilt on a beige carpet and the spot can't be seen now.
Perhaps a cue-tip for an applicator may work. Rinse with water after.
Peroxide is a gentile bleaching agent and shouldn't harm anything colour
fast but be carefull. The solution must say on for at least an hour to work.
If in doubt don't do it...Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Costanzo" <costan0@attglobal.net>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 8:08 AM
Subject: rust stains on a new top
>
> Do any of you know how to get rust stains (or something that looks like
> rust) off of a new vinyl top. I have tried some vinyl cleaner and some
> stronger solvent with no results.
>
> Jerry
From "Neil Trelenberg" <neilberg at telus.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:52:19 -0800
Subject: Re: Garage Floors
An old fridge box Gary...Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 9:27 AM
Subject: Garage Floors
>
> A while back we had a thread about garage finishes. Now I'm getting ready
to
> do something about mine. I'm interested in the experiences of anyone who
has
> had their garage floor finish down for at least two years -- how has it
> worked out? Peeled or lifted? Easy to clean? Kept a nice appearance?
> We're currently considering four options: garage floor paint, linoleum,
tile,
> or garage carpet (Griot's, among others, sells garage carpet.)
>
> Any advice?
>
> Cheers
> Gary
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:01:09 -0600
Subject: Re: Gas problem
Michael
Thanks, guess I made the right choices.
Kind regards
Ed
Michael Salter wrote:
> Hi Ed,
>
> I seem to recall that we have been round this spark plug circuit before but
>IMHO with
> standard coil ignition nothing seems to work beter than NGK BP5ES plugs and
>copper
> core wires.
>
> I realize that there is an issue with radio interferrence when solid core
>wires are
> used, but no one has ever been able to clearly explain to me what the issue
>is nor I
> have never had any complaint...
> --
> Regards,
>
> Mike Salter
> http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> "M.E.&E.A. Driver" wrote:
>
> > Hi Michael
> >
> > Wonder what you are suggesting as the best spark plug and spark plug leads
>for our
> > vehicles.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Ed
> > Saskatoon
> >
> > Michael Salter wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Stephen,
> > >
> > > I have not been following this thread but your symptoms sound very like
>those
> > > caused by a blocked fuel tank vent.
> > > Additionally I would suggest that you have check that the spark does not
>go
> > > away as the engine stops. By that I mean, things like a heat sensitive
>ignition
> > > problem will usually result in a deterioration of the spark quality which
>will
> > > eventually kill the engine. This is easy to check with a scope, a little
>more
> > > difficult without.
> > > As always in these cases it is important to isolate the system that is
>failing
> > > then begin the diagnosis. Generally if the float chambers are full to the
> > > correct level when the engine stops you can eliminate the fuel system as
>the
> > > cause.
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Mike Salter
> > > http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >
> > > Stephen Graham wrote:
> > >
> > > > It dies with or without throttle.
> > > >
> > > > Stephen
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
> > > > To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:05 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Gas problem
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 11/11/00 1:19:48 PM, stepheng48@home.com writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > << When I start the car, it runs fine for 3-5 minutes then putters
>out. I
> > > > can
> > > > > wait a few minutes and it will start up again only to fizzle out
>again in
> > > > 1-20
> > > > > seconds. >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you saying that it won't keep going at idle or rather that it
>won't
> > > > keep
> > > > > going even if you use the throttle to give it more gas?
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Gary
From Fred.Scheuble at triaton-na.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:04:28 -0500
Subject: RE: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
yes, I would agree.
-----Original Message-----
From: Krazy Kiwi [mailto:magicare@home.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 8:01 AM
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
Freds success prompts me to add that I also have some suspicions that the
temperature extremes in Canada may be a contributing factor in the cracking
problems that we encountered with the Healey wheels.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
www.precisionsportscar.com
fred scheuble wrote:
> I have one wheel going past seven years and no change in the integrity of
my
> repair.
>
> Michael Salter <magicare@home.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jay,
> The following is our experiance on steering wheel repair.
>
> We used bowling ball epoxy to repair steering wheels long before repros
were
> available. Our conclusion was that in the long term the repairs were a
waste
> of
> time. It seems that the material used in the original manufacture of
Healey
> and
> MG wheels shrinks very slowly as time passed. This is the cause of the
cracks
> appearing because the whole thing is moulded onto a steel ring which of
> course
> does not shrink. Although our repaired wheels looked great for a couple of
> years
> after that time however the cracks started to open up again and within a
few
> months we were not a lot better off.
> I understand that the material that the currently avaiable wheels are made
> from
> is different from the original and does not shrink the same way.....time
will
> tell.
> Hope this is helpful.
> --
> Regards,
>
> Mike Salter
> http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com wrote:
>
> > sounds like a plan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Loftus [mailto:loftusdesign@home.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:49 PM
> > To: Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com; 'healeys@autox.team.net'
> > Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
> >
> > I'm also planning to use the POR putty to fix my stock steering wheel.
> > The cracks and lifting plastic are in the area where the spokes meet the
> > rim. I have heard that there are metal clips under the plastic that wrap
> > around the metal core. The reason that the plastic cracks is that the
> > metal clips are not fastened together and with stress and heat they can
> > move. I've been told to remove the broken plastic, fasten the metal
> > clips securely with rivets, sheet metal screws or equiv. and then repair
> > the missing plastic with the POR type epoxy filler. Comments anyone?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > John
> >
> > Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com wrote:
> > >
> > > POR sell a putty that is perfect for this use, easy to mold and sans
and
> > > I've used it on restoring a 36 old and a 67 mustang steering wheel,
> > results
> > > are excellent. One wheel is going on 5 years and still looks as good
as
> > when
> > > I first did it.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dickb@cheerful.com [mailto:dickb@cheerful.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 4:36 PM
> > > To: Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com; austin healey list
> > > Subject: Re: Restoring Steering Wheels
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > > Eastwood has a Kit for exactly this purpose. I haven't used it
(instead
> I
> > > covered my wheel with a black leather lace-on cover) but I would hope
> > other
> > > Listers would give you the benefit of their experience.
> > >
> > > Eastwood has a website.
> > >
> > > DickB
> > >
> > > ---- you wrote:
> > > > I have a steering wheel for my '55 Alpine that is cracked and the
> cracks
> > > > have expanded. Like many other cars, the steering wheel has a metal
> > ring
> > > > running around the inside and it's covered by this plastic/bakelite
> type
> > > > stuff. I know there are services that will restore steering wheels
for
> > > > something over $300. Has anyone tackled this themselves? I was
> > thinking
> > > > something along the lines of spraying in the cracks with a Rustoleum
> > type
> > > > paint and then filling the cracks with bondo and sanding to regain
the
> > > > shape. But, I am also worried that the rust inside will continue to
> > > > expand, causing the cracks to reappear and further separations.
Anyone
> > > > have any thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jay
> > > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
From Peter Brauen <pbrauen at telepak.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:03:52 -0600
Subject: Healey fastback hardtop
Hi All,
This thread is two months old I know, but I promised to find and scan
the Kellison ad for the fastback hardtop that uses the original trunk lid.
It can be seen at http://images.honesty.com/imagedata/h/033/43/20334367.jpg
for any or all interested. This ad appeared in the March, 1964 issue of CARS
magazine. Enjoy! BTW has anyone got one of these for sale?
Peter (BMC Restorations)
From Fred.Scheuble at triaton-na.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:07:55 -0500
Subject: RE: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
my sentiments also, ...change enough stuff on your healey and it's not a
healey anymore...
-----Original Message-----
From: JISah102 [mailto:ah102@home.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 2:51 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
Well, here's an opposing view......a new Civic or Neon rides better, handles
better, and goes faster and costs less than a big Healey. So Jay, if you
like the character of the big skinny wheel (as I do), then go for it.
just my .02
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Wall <jwbn6@iopener.net>
To: <magicare@home.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
>
> an immaculate restoration on an original wheel does nothing for the two
facts of it being too large and too skinny for a good grip. moto-lita is a
great replacement. save your time and effort.
From "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:03:29 -0600
Subject: Re: rust stains on a new top
I believe you'll find Softscrub works well.
WST
----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Trelenberg <neilberg@telus.net>
To: Jerry Costanzo <costan0@attglobal.net>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: rust stains on a new top
>
> Jerry, try peroxide, but on a inconspicuous spot first. Let it set for
about
> a hour to make sure it doesn't bleach the top. It works great on carpeting
> that is colour fast. PLEASE try it on some hidden spot first. It has
worked
> on grape juice spilt on a beige carpet and the spot can't be seen now.
> Perhaps a cue-tip for an applicator may work. Rinse with water after.
> Peroxide is a gentile bleaching agent and shouldn't harm anything colour
> fast but be carefull. The solution must say on for at least an hour to
work.
> If in doubt don't do it...Neil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Costanzo" <costan0@attglobal.net>
> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 8:08 AM
> Subject: rust stains on a new top
>
>
> >
> > Do any of you know how to get rust stains (or something that looks like
> > rust) off of a new vinyl top. I have tried some vinyl cleaner and some
> > stronger solvent with no results.
> >
> > Jerry
From Fred.Scheuble at triaton-na.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:15:19 -0500
Subject: throttle question
My newly rebuilt engine/carb on my bn7 has a developed a quirk relating to
the throttle, In short it is sticking. symptom: normal driving @ 2000 rpm
take my foot off the gas and no decrease in rpm, tap the throttle and drops
normally. Obviously (gulp) some part of my throttle is binding, any
suggestions on locating where?
Thanks,
Fred
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:15:40 -0800
Subject: FW: rust stains on a new top
There is some stuff that a friend of mine got at the local marine chandlery
to remove rust stains off his boat called Ospo. It works very well. Also
one of the other guys around here recommended CLR usually available at osh
or similar places.
Good luck!
Jonathan Lane
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Trelenberg [mailto:neilberg@telus.net]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 10:50 AM
To: Jerry Costanzo; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: rust stains on a new top
Jerry, try peroxide, but on a inconspicuous spot first. Let it set for about
a hour to make sure it doesn't bleach the top. It works great on carpeting
that is colour fast. PLEASE try it on some hidden spot first. It has worked
on grape juice spilt on a beige carpet and the spot can't be seen now.
Perhaps a cue-tip for an applicator may work. Rinse with water after.
Peroxide is a gentile bleaching agent and shouldn't harm anything colour
fast but be carefull. The solution must say on for at least an hour to work.
If in doubt don't do it...Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Costanzo" <costan0@attglobal.net>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 8:08 AM
Subject: rust stains on a new top
>
> Do any of you know how to get rust stains (or something that looks like
> rust) off of a new vinyl top. I have tried some vinyl cleaner and some
> stronger solvent with no results.
>
> Jerry
From rscaglione at safjp.gov.ar
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:30:57 -0300
Subject: bj8 - testing message "Mail con archivo LIBRE DE
(See attached file: BJ8.jpg)
[demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of
BJ8.jpg]
From M Brouillette <mbrouill at ix.netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:48:25 -0500
Subject: Looking for a TR3B
Ok guys, I've decided on the next toy for the garage.
I'm presently on the look out for a late model TR3B (62-63 TCF series
car). If you hear of any that are 1 step down from concours, I'd be
interested in hearing more about it.
I plan on driving it, so if I bought a trailer queen, she'd never see that
trailer again, but would be well maintained. I'm just a believer that
these cars were meant to be driven...
Just to save a couple notes, I have looked in Hemmings and at major for
sale web sites...
Mike Brouillette
Bedford, NH
59 BT7
From "Richard J. Hockert, Esq." <rjh.co at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:04:41 -0600
Subject: RE: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
At 01:07 PM 11/13/2000 , Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com wrote:
>
>my sentiments also, ...change enough stuff on your healey and it's not a
>healey anymore...
This "sentiment" arises often on the modified Healey list. So, how much
can you change and still have an AH?
My car looks like a BJ8, drives like a BJ8 (sort of), smells like a BJ8 and
has a BJ8 drive train but is it an AH? It has tube shocks, adjustable
camber, fuel injection, electronic ignition, major hp increase and a number
of other very discrete mods. to make it drive straight, ride better and
hold corners (it doesn't flex).
Just wondering,
Jim Hockert
BJ8 Rallye ???
Dallas, TX
From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:15:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: BJ8 Jack Handles For Sale
Speaking of selling things via the Healeys List, I have recently dug out a
supply of REPRODUCTION jack handles for the BJ8 style jacks. These are
simple, straight metal rods, and plated as per the original. They are 100
percent concours-acceptable, and functional too, if that means anything!
I had these jack handles made at the U.S. Military Penitentiary at Fort
Leavenworth, Kansas in 1990. I was stationed there (Fort Leavenworth, NOT
the prison!) at the time. The prisoners have several workshops where they
will take on various projects where the person commissioning the work pays
for materials only. I had to pay a commercial company for the plating --
they don't do that at the prison -- but still, the cost was pretty minimal.
Therefore I can offer these jack handles at $12 each, postpaid in the USA.
I've got about a dozen or so left, so if you want one please e-mail me ASAP
and I'll hold it for you (up to 7 days) pending arrival of your payment via
snail mail to.
Reid Trummel
PO Box 19085
Tampa FL 33686
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
2 x BN2
2 x AN5
http://www.healey.org
http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
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From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:22:07 -0800
Subject: RE: Garage Floors
I had PPG stuff put on 2 years ago. I didn't do the applying and think it
could have been done better. Bubbles and a couple of chips near the main
door openings. I think I should have applied it and then waxed it. It is
kind of flat, non shiny and some things don't wipe off as easily as others.
ie, anti freeze and brake fluid seem to soak in a little and require more
abrasion(brown scotchbrite) than oil.
Ten years ago I applied Amerishield recomended by the paint store my self on
a different garage and it was better than the PPG stuff. Tire marks clean up
eisier also. Still need to pad the jack stands to avoid chips.
Griot's stuff might be good, I just didn't like the color selection.
Ken Freese
-----Original Message-----
From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 9:27 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Garage Floors
A while back we had a thread about garage finishes. Now I'm getting ready
to
do something about mine. I'm interested in the experiences of anyone who
has
had their garage floor finish down for at least two years -- how has it
worked out? Peeled or lifted? Easy to clean? Kept a nice appearance?
We're currently considering four options: garage floor paint, linoleum,
tile,
or garage carpet (Griot's, among others, sells garage carpet.)
Any advice?
Cheers
Gary
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:26:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Re No Healey content: Election views outside U.S.
Gary
You must be using a very old photo in the masthead of British Car. <G>
You sound like a guy who spent a lot of time wiring-up IBM card-readers and
therefore are familiar with ferrite-core memories and other artifacts that date
back to the glory days of LBCs.
This is an excellent explaination of how our "card-system" voting machines
work. (Sort of like the schematic of the OD circuitry isn't it ?)
DickB
---- you wrote:
>
> Those outside the U.S. may have difficulty understanding why the issue on
> whose votes have been counted in Florida and why a manual recount might be
> preferred to the machine count.
> The problems arise with the mechanical system now in use in most states. The
> "ballot" consists of a loose-leaf book fastened over a metal grid with holes
> in it. Under the grid, the voter inserts a card, similar in weight to the old
> computer cards, which has a set of squares partially punched out that match
> the holes in the grid. The voter looks at the "ballot" and selects a
> candidate by pushing a metal stylus through the hole in the grid next to the
> candidate's name, thus (in theory) pushing out a square in the card
> underneath. When the voter is through, he removes the card and turns it in
> to the vote registrar. The votes are then counted by machines similar to
> old-style IBM punch card counters.
> The problems arise when (a) the names don't line up easily or obviously with
> the holes in the card (b) the voter changes his mind and tries to punch a
> second choice, or (c) if the voter doesn't push the entire little square
> loose from the card. Each of these situations is argued to have happened in
> Florida where (a) another candidate's name was opposite the square that
> appeared to be related to the Gore box, giving the vote to the wrong
> candidate, (b) when realizing they'd pushed the wrong hole, voters punched
> out the right hole, thus leaving two holes punched and rendering that ballot
> unacceptable or (c) the tab didn't break free from the card, and in the
> machine got pushed back and the vote therefore didn't get counted.
> In a machine recount, some tabs can be broken free on the second run through,
> which was why both candidates got more votes in the second round than in the
> first, with Gore getting slightly more "new" votes than Bush. In a manual
> recount, the vote counter can see that the tab was in fact pressed out, but
> hadn't broken free.
>
> As anyone familiar with manual counting and machine counting of anything can
> readily see, both systems are prone to some error. The problem is that the
> margins in Florida are smaller than the margin of error of either method. In
> addition, in several counties that had "confusing" ballots, it has been noted
> that third-party candidates have gotten many more votes than would have been
> predicted by the voting behavior in other counties, which is why some voters
> are arguing that they should be given the chance to vote again.
>
> This ain't going to be easy to sort out, and unfortunately, the spin-doctors
> from both parties, probably so used to making points during the campaign, are
> now obfuscating the actual facts and making arguments that don't seem helpful
> in resolving the confusion.
>
> Cheers
> Gary
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
From Csooch1 at aol.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:28:34 EST
Subject: Re: rust stains on a new top
Whink Rust Remover in the brown bottle with a white cap. It takes rust
stains out of cotton dress shirts so it should be safe for vinyl.
Cheers,
Chris
BJ8
XJ6
From "JISah102" <ah102 at home.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:29:46 -0500
Subject: Re: Garage Floors
Gary: I have used three types of Garage Floor paints.
The first was a Latex Garage floor paint several years ago. NO GOOD. in
less than one year, considerable lifting from warm tires occurred.
The second was PPG Aquapon Polyamide-Epoxy. This is a two part and goes on
with a roller. I used this on a new garage floor about 8 years ago, and it
is still excellent. I have spilled gasoline, hot oil, even dot 4 brake
fluid and
even when it sits several hours it just wipes clean, with no damage. Hot
tires do not cause it to lift. To apply, I cleaned the concrete floor with
muriatic acid, rinsed and dried well, then applyed the coating.
The third (on my new six car garage) was Muralo two part epoxy. This is new
on the market; a waterborne product (as is much new car paint today), and
comes in a handy package....a gallon can 3/4 full, and a quart of catalyst.
easy to mix, no measuring, and cleans up with water. Again, I applied with
a roller (two coats) after proper etching with muriatic acid. So far, so
good, but it's been only 6 months. No lifting from hot tires, and seems
oil resistant.
Good Luck,
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:27 PM
Subject: Garage Floors
>
> A while back we had a thread about garage finishes. Now I'm getting ready
to
> do something about mine. I'm interested in the experiences of anyone who
has
> had their garage floor finish down for at least two years -- how has it
> worked out? Peeled or lifted? Easy to clean? Kept a nice appearance?
> We're currently considering four options: garage floor paint, linoleum,
tile,
> or garage carpet (Griot's, among others, sells garage carpet.)
>
> Any advice?
>
> Cheers
> Gary
From Csooch1 at aol.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:30:49 EST
Subject: Re: Garage Floors
Gary,
I used UGL Latex floor paint about 3 years ago and I have not had any of it
lift yet. It makes sweeping a lot easier. Gasoline will bubble it
though...oops.
Cheers,
Chris
BJ8
XJ6
From "Michael Lempert" <mdlempert at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:53:52 -0500
Subject: Spotting
On my trek home from South Carolina yesterday, I spotted a black w/ black
hood 3000 MKII or MKIII on Route 285N, somewhere south of Richmond VA.
Anyone ?
Mike L.
From "jim t.p. ryan" <ryan at jimryan.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:00:05 -0800
Subject: Re: Healey fastback hardtop
Does this have anything to do with http://www.kellisoncars.com?
Sincerely,
Jim Ryan
64 BJ7
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Brauen pbrauen@telepak.net
Sent: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:03:52 -0600
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Healey fastback hardtop
Hi All,
This thread is two months old I know, but I promised to find and scan
the Kellison ad for the fastback hardtop that uses the original trunk lid.
It can be seen at http://images.honesty.com/imagedata/h/033/43/20334367.jpg
for any or all interested. This ad appeared in the March, 1964 issue of CARS
magazine. Enjoy! BTW has anyone got one of these for sale?
Peter (BMC Restorations)
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From type79 at ix.netcom.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:05:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Garage Floors
Gary,
Contact Garon Products, Inc. http://www.garonproducts.com They sell floor
coating systems.
I used their basic product 10 years ago on a then 30 yr. old concrete floor. I
precisely followed their instructions and with the exception of normal expected
wear and tear, the paint has held up admirably. I would describe the finish as
semi-gloos.
My garage floor has not peeled, lifted, nor bubbled. There was even one area
saturated with oil that I had to clean before painting which has held up just as
well as the other areas. After 10 years, I have no need to recoat the floor.
Garon's print catalogue has more than 20 pages of floor coating products
starting
at $250.00 for their 5 gallon polyurethane product and going up from there.
Good Luck.
jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Editorgary@aol.com wrote:
> A while back we had a thread about garage finishes. Now I'm getting ready to
> do something about mine. I'm interested in the experiences of anyone who has
> had their garage floor finish down for at least two years -- how has it
> worked out? Peeled or lifted? Easy to clean? Kept a nice appearance?
> We're currently considering four options: garage floor paint, linoleum, tile,
> or garage carpet (Griot's, among others, sells garage carpet.)
>
> Any advice?
>
> Cheers
> Gary
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:24:17 -0800
Subject: FW: Moss Selling direct? was election complaints.
Thank you Gary, I appreciate your comments.
I have subscribed to this list for several months now and up until now have
tried to keep my ties to Moss as low key as my e-mail address will let me.
I subscribe to this list because I own a Healey and I am an enthusiast, not
because I am trying to sell parts and certainly not as an official
representative of Moss Motors. My recent post of parts for sale was done
because we had some interesting parts for sale that I thought people could
use at very deep discounts. Though the commission I might make on this
whole thing probably won't cover the cost of one text book for school, I
would hope that if people want these parts, they will order them from me, as
that is how I make my living. I have had a lot of people interested in the
parts and have sold quite a few of them already. I'm sorry that a few
people feel that Moss in trying to "sell directly to the list" by sending
this out, but the fact is that Moss had nothing to do with this posting. I
was simply trying to pass on a good deal.
Again, please remember that I am NOT on this list as a spokesperson,
representative, contact person or complaint department for Moss. I am
simply an enthusiast like yourselves who is trying to learn more about his
car and participate in a wonderful hobby. Occasionally I will put on the
Moss hat, though I would prefer to determine for myself when the hat goes
on. For the most part I would simply like to remain as an innocuous Healey
list guy.
Thanks!
Jonathan Lane
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:06:13 EST
Subject: Re: RE: [Re: Restoring Steering Wheels]
In a message dated 11/13/00 12:08:56 PM, rjh.co@worldnet.att.net writes:
<< My car looks like a BJ8, drives like a BJ8 (sort of), smells like a BJ8 and
has a BJ8 drive train but is it an AH? It has tube shocks, adjustable
camber, fuel injection, electronic ignition, major hp increase and a number
of other very discrete mods. to make it drive straight, ride better and
hold corners (it doesn't flex) >>
Sounds like an old Miata to me.
(grins)
Cheers
gary
From WilKo at aol.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:38:25 EST
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
The main description of the List at:
http://www.team.net:80/www/healey/hly_mail.html Says, "The Healey mailing
lists are interactive e-mail forums with members all over the world. They are
free, and anyone can post a question, tech tip, event, interesting story,
personal classified ad (Commercial postings are frowned upon.), or other
Healey related discussion."
No worries.
In a message dated 11/13/00 10:37:05 AM, johnahsn@olypen.com writes:
<<
I agree with Ron and Gary. I have found this List to be very helpful with
selling un-needed Austin Healey parts to someone who can use them, and for
buying parts for my cars from someone who has what I need. I'm not a
business, just an old guy who restores BN7 & BT7 cars. >>
From tom Blaskovics <u2347 at wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:37:48 -0500
Subject: Car Covers
Hi Listers,
My car is done. I want to put a cover on it for storage
and maybe for use when we travel. Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Tom Blaskovics (U2347@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU)
ACHA, ACHUSA
BJ7 Registry
HBJ7L/22380
Back on the Road in July
MB 450 SL
Morgantown, WV
From Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:44:56 +0000
Subject: Re: Longbridge or Abingdon ... MM ???
Bradley,
As an aside....The last MM was run in the summer of 1957 after the incident that
resulted in the daeth of the Marquis de Portago and a number of spectators. So
strictly.....
For the record BN production moved from Longbridge to Abingdon in fall of 57 so
another quick way of telling is if the delivery date id before the fall then
corroborating the date with the chassis number if the delivery date was later
than November - it seems cars typically took up to eight weeks to get delivered
in the UK and a lot more to the US (obviously).
Peter Dzwig
Longbridge BN4 (Delivered June 57)
Reid Trummel wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:08:29 -0600, Bradley H. Simmons wrote:
>
> >> I have a 1958 100-6 BN6 (aka. MM ... ???). I would be most grateful if
> someone would be kind enough to enlighten me regarding two issues:
>
> 1. How does one differentiate between an Abington Healey and a Longbridge
> Healey? <<
>
> By Car Number, referencing the original production records on file at the
> British Motor Heritrage Industry Trust. See page 115 of the 2000
> Austin-Healey Resource Book, or:
> http://www.healey.org/production.shtml
>
> Note that the email address of Anders Clausager's replacement for
> certificate preparation, Gillian Bardsley, is also available there. I just
> received an email message from her a few days ago and Webmaster Brad Weldon
> updated the website in nothing flat -- he's good!
>
>
> >> 2. Is it correct to use the term "MM" or "Mille Miglia" to reference the
> "6-port" 100-6 BN6 Healeys? <<
>
> That may be a matter of opinion. At one extreme some might say that it is
> never correct to label any Healey a "Mille Miglia" or "MM" model since it
> was never an official BMC model name and it never appeared in BMC sales
> literature. At the other extremely some might say that any 100-6 with a
> six-port head qualifies for the appelation Mille Miglia and/or MM.
>
> My opinion is that it is a stretch to call any BN6 a Mille Miglia/MM since
> the title was created for the BN4 with the improved cylinder head, to
> differentiate it from the earlier BN4 cars with the gallery head. ALL BN6
> series cars had the new head and so did not need to be differentiated from
> anything. For the BN6 it's moot.
>
> Moreover, all references to Mille Miglia/MM that I have seen are in
> comtemporary road test reports (with the one exception of a Donald Healey
> Motor Company -- NOT Austin/BMC -- price list that cites the "MM") and are
> all for the BN4; never the BN6. Apparently by the time the BN6 was
> introduced (April 1958), the short-lived Mille Miglia/MM name had been
> dropped.
>
> All of that said, there are no rules (remember, it was never an official
> name) and if you want to call your BN6 a Mille Miglia model I don't think
> anyone would object too stroungly. In one technical sense it would be
> correct since the BN6 cars all had the engine mods that spurred the use of
> the name Mille Miglia in the first place.
>
> Cheers,
> Reid Trummel
> Tampa, Florida
> 2 x BN2
> 2 x AN5
> http://www.healey.org
> http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
>
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From "Harrison, Ian" <Ian.Harrison at li.csiro.au>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:52:01 +1100
Subject: rust stains on a new top
Jerry,
removal of rust stains from almost any fabric or in your case vinyl is
easily accomplished by using phosphoric acid (rust remover), or as Jonathin
suggests CLR, (it's phosphoric acid also) don't use the gel type only the
liquid variety. Dab it on with a cloth and only leave it on the vinyl for as
long as it takes to remove the stain, (minutes) then remove with water and
perhaps some baking soda, soap or other alkali mixed in.
Not a good idea to use any spirits or hydrocarbons on vinyl
Ian
BN4
From i.e.inc at netwide.net (Richard Smith)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:00:12 -0500
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
Well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: dwflagg@juno.com
To: WilKo@aol.com
Cc: Healybj8@aol.com ; pdzwig@summaventures.com ; Healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
election
Rick,
I think what we need to remember here is that, first, we are a Democratic
Republic not a true Democracy, and that the states select the president
by means of the Electoral College. The people in each state vote for
their candidate and his (or her) electoral votes. This was done to
insure, what is obvious in this election, that the "Left" coast and the
"Left" east coast do not determine how the rest of the country is
governed. All one has to do is look at a map of the states won by both
candidates. Having said that I feel that no matter who wins the popular
vote, and thus the electoral votes in Florida, the other candidate should
gracefully concede to the greater need of the country and people over
personal ambition and political aspirations. The greatness of our nation
is in our ability to come together in time of crisis. Oh, I feel Peter
was refering to the apparent narrow margin in the popular vote count in
Florida.
Happy Healeying,
Doug
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:14:28 EST WilKo@aol.com writes:
>
> I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the
> Electoral
> College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a
> president (Al
> Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as
> president.
>
> Is that you meant Peter?
>
> Rick
> San Diego
>
> In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
>
> <<
> Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent
> to Florida
> begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am
> worried
> about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either
> guy can do
> the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that
> finally
> loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
>
> Tim Wallace
> '67 BJ8
> Fuquay-Varina, NC
>
> In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
>
> << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does look
> a real
> mess. A
> President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
> people?????????
>
> Peter Dzwig >>
________________________________________________________________
From i.e.inc at netwide.net (Richard Smith)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:02:15 -0500
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
We must always, if we are to survive as a nation, fall back to the
Constitution. It should not be up to a Federal judge or the craftiness of any
attorney to determine the outcome.
----- Original Message -----
From: dwflagg@juno.com
To: pdzwig@summaventures.com
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: No Healey content: Wondering what non-US folks think of
election
Peter,
That is why we are told that everyone's vote counts. The election can be
determined by one vote, which I believe did happen once in our history.
If GW wins Florida then he would have the EC votes, no matter by how
small a margin. That is the nature of our Constitution. If we start to
tinker with it to accomodate the desires of those who don't like the
results until they get the results wanted, then we are dangerously close
to losing our Democratic Republic. The Rule of Law is greater than any
one man or his ambitions. Nixon came back after defeat to Kennedy and
became President. Either of the two currently seeking the office can do
the same. Let cooler heads prevail and show the rest of the world that we
are made of "The Right Stuff"!!
Happy Healeying,
Doug
On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:27:06 +0000 Peter Dzwig <pdzwig@summaventures.com>
writes:
>
> Nope,
>
> I meant that the all difference seems to be going to be made by just
> 200 (I
> understand now that its 300 as of about 6pm Washington Time last
> night) VOTERS.
>
> As for the Electoral College I agree it would seem that nation-wide
> Gore got more
> votes than Bush, but your system can produce anomalies so be it, so
> can ours. We
> have had minority governments in that sense on several occasions. It
> does seem
> kinda daft that with Gore ahead in the EC that Bush could get to win
> because of
> those two or three hundred voters.
>
> Yes that is democracy and that is what it is all about, but there is
> a sense from
> the outside that there will be a new President, with all the power
> and influence
> that he wields in the world, but with a minority of voter support
> and that he
> will quite possibly be a lame duck. Moreover there is little or no
> chance as I
> understand it that there would be a national re-vote nor would he be
> likely to
> have a short term and go to the nation for a fresh mandate, which is
> what
> normally happens over here in such circumstances.
>
>
> Peter
> WilKo@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I'm thinknng that the 200-odd people to which he refers are the
> Electoral
> > College and how silly that looks when the people vote for a
> president (Al
> > Gore) and the Electoral College will likely name G.W. Bush as
> president.
> >
> > Is that you meant Peter?
> >
> > Rick
> > San Diego
> >
> > In a message dated 11/10/00 3:04:00 PM, Healybj8@aol.com writes:
> >
> > <<
> > Naw, the real mess comes when the 100 or so lawyers each side sent
> to Florida
> > begin to get involved, and the law suits begin. That is what I am
> worried
> > about, not the few hundred votes that swing the election. Either
> guy can do
> > the job, and I'm not worried about that. I just hope the one that
> finally
> > loses when all the votes are counted bows out gracefully.
> >
> > Tim Wallace
> > '67 BJ8
> > Fuquay-Varina, NC
> >
> > In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > pdzwig@summaventures.com writes:
> >
> > << Yes, there's loads of coverage over here (UK)...and it does
> look a real
> > mess. A
> > President with all his power and Kudos elected by maybe 200-odd
> > people?????????
> >
> > Peter Dzwig >>
________________________________________________________________
From Jerry Wall <jwbn6 at iopener.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:10:57 -0600
Subject: Re: Re:
Amen............( non denominational, of course )
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave BOWERS" <BOWERSDA@uvsc.edu>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>, <rich.chrysler@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re:
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:20:51 -0700
As a U.S. veteran of Vietnam, I appreciate your note (even though I don't
pretend to think it was aimed at me personally). I don't participate in many
threads, but, wanted to acknowledge your post to the list.
I 'DO' believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion and that's what makes
this country great. It's too bad that so many in positions of influence seem
to think their opinion is worth more than anybody else's (sp).
I prefer:
Healey's (personality) to Honda's (cookie cutter),
Constitutional Republic (individual rights) to Democracy (mob rule), and
Dialog (mutual Respect) to Slander (Mud Slinging).
I appreciate your comments and that of most on the list whether it be
technical, personal, or commercial. I hope that we may ALL benefit in
some degree to each other's feelings and observations. After all,
That's what I was fighting for.
Respectfully
Dave Bowers
56 BN2
>>> "Rich C" <rich.chrysler@sympatico.ca> 11/11/00 3:41:43 PM >>>
Please excuse this unrelated note to this list, but:
To all veterans everywhere in the free world,
We remember, and we thank you.
Rich Chrysler
From Stephen Hutchings <hutching at the-wire.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:30:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Garage floors
I had more success with an acrylic paint when I painted a diluted
coat first as a primer. This is what the
manufacturer recommended, and I've had a chance to observe the
difference in adhesion.
I'm afraid I can't remember the percentage of dilution.
Stephen Hutchings
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:36:00 EST
Subject: Re: Car Covers
In a message dated 11/13/00 1:42:44 PM, u2347@wvnvm.wvnet.edu writes:
<<
Hi Listers,
My car is done. I want to put a cover on it for storage
and maybe for use when we travel. Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks >>
For home storage, several sources sell all-weather covers (they're pretty
much all made by the same company in several different high-tech materials).
I think I would get one of those even if I expected to store the car indoors
most of the time, to give scratch protection in the garage and yet still be
all right for the times you're forced to leave the car outside.
For road travel, they don't work too well, however because they're bulky and
when they do get wet, they're hard to pack. For travel, I use a Tyvek cover
that I bought from Moss which is extremely light-weight and pretty
waterproof. However, for
Cheers
Gary Anderson
From JSoderling at aol.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:00:41 EST
Subject: Re: rust stains on a new top
In a message dated 11/13/00 11:10:27 AM Pacific Standard Time,
wsthompson@thicko.com writes:
<<
I believe you'll find Softscrub works well. >>
Yes, I've successfully used Softscrub to remove paint and stains from my
Healey top.
John
100-Six Erika the Red
From "Quinn, Patrick" <Patrick.QUINN at det.nsw.edu.au>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:03:00 +1100
Subject: Positive or Negative
G'day
Now most will think that this is really a dumb question.
To clean the BN3's engine for our fast approaching concours I removed the
generator, coil, distributor etc. Now it's looking good enough to eat my
dinner off, I am putting it all back together again.
It's probably all caused by a senior moment but I can't remember if the CB
and
SW terminals on the coil (as in the manual) are positive and negative
respectively or the other way around. The car is still positively earthed.
Which one is it please?
Regards
Patrick Quinn
Sydney, Australia
From "James Sailer" <sailer at srv.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:28:35 -0700
Subject: Subject: Garage Floors
GAry,
I used 2 part sherwin williams epoxy garage floor paint on mine (new floor).
It was first etched with muriatic acid. I am careful with it but it has
been down for just over 2 years and is perfect.
jim Sailer
66 BJ8
From LBCarNut <LBCarNut at carolina.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:00:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Positive or Negative
On a positive ground car, CB = Contact Breaker? = Positive, this lead
goes to the distributor. SW = Switch = Negative and goes to the
ignition. By the way what is a BN3?.
Peter Samaroo
Charlotte NC
59 AN5
59 BN4
"Quinn, Patrick" wrote:
>
> G'day
>
> Now most will think that this is really a dumb question.
>
> To clean the BN3's engine for our fast approaching concours I removed the
> generator, coil, distributor etc. Now it's looking good enough to eat my
> dinner off, I am putting it all back together again.
>
> It's probably all caused by a senior moment but I can't remember if the CB
> and
> SW terminals on the coil (as in the manual) are positive and negative
> respectively or the other way around. The car is still positively earthed.
>
> Which one is it please?
>
> Regards
>
> Patrick Quinn
> Sydney, Australia
From "Joe Durant" <jdurant at stlnet.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:24:17 -0600
Subject: Fw: Quote of the day... No Healey content...
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----- Original Message -----
From: <DMassmann1@aol.com>
To: <camp9290@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 6:58 PM
Subject: Quote of the day...
<<
BEST QUOTE OF
> > > THE DAY
> > >
> > > "YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT THOSE OLD LADIES IN PALM
> > > BEACH CAN
> > > PLAY 15 BINGO CARDS SIMULTANEOUSLY - BUT CAN'T PUNCH A BALLOT!" >>
From Iwaah at aol.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:26:49 EST
Subject: mechanic in the phoneix area
Please if anybody knows of a good mech. for my little brothers Porsche in the
Phoenix area please let me know off list
John
From MOWOGMAN at aol.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:34:50 EST
Subject: Please keep listing items for sale.
I would like to encourage ya'll to sell what ever you've got left over from
your cars on the list. I find it a great source for stuff!!! And to the
vendors, jump in, I don't mind that either, I think the list rules are
intended to stop massive mailings for crap that none of us need. Kind of
like going to a big swap meet and seeing crafts or some other none car
related crap for sale, I just walk right by! So, post away!, please!
And Jonathan, you're more than welcome on the list, and I for one haven't
minded the Moss hat on, now and then!
John
Oostburg, WI
'60 BT7
'60 Mini
'80 TR7 (freshly repainted Carmine red!)
'69 AA
'57 Isetta
Etc.
From "bjcap" <bjcap at frontiernet.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:42:10 -0500
Subject: moss selling directly
Guys,
This post was the find of a lifetime to people needing alloy panels and
special bits at half price ! Don't knock it. Only Dealers get this flyer.To
have this posted here for our group was definitly a good thing.
Carroll Phillips
Top Down Restorations (Moss dealer)
From YourName <bjate at pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:08:20 -0800
Subject: AHC San Diego
As the West Coast Coordinator of Austin Healey Club of America (AHCA) Iam
pleased to announce that the Austin Healey Club of San Diego was sanctioned as
a Chapter of AHCA at the delegates meeting in St. Louis last weekend. The AHCA
is governed by the delegates from each of the chartered clubs and the addition
of AHCSD brings the total to 41 active clubs. Healey enthusiasts in the San
Diego and surrounding areas can contact their membership chairperson, Rick
Snover, via e-mail
at <rsnover@ix.netcom.com> or the AHCSD website at <www.sdhealey.org>
Jim Albeck
From Ron Rader <rader at interworld.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:37:54 -0800
Subject: Re: Car Covers
Listers:
At Gary's suggestion last year I bought the Tyvek cover and I am also very happy
with it.
Ron
Editorgary@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 11/13/00 1:42:44 PM, u2347@wvnvm.wvnet.edu writes:
>
> <<
> Hi Listers,
> My car is done. I want to put a cover on it for storage
> and maybe for use when we travel. Any suggestions
> would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks >>
>
> For home storage, several sources sell all-weather covers (they're pretty
> much all made by the same company in several different high-tech materials).
> I think I would get one of those even if I expected to store the car indoors
> most of the time, to give scratch protection in the garage and yet still be
> all right for the times you're forced to leave the car outside.
>
> For road travel, they don't work too well, however because they're bulky and
> when they do get wet, they're hard to pack. For travel, I use a Tyvek cover
> that I bought from Moss which is extremely light-weight and pretty
> waterproof. However, for
>
> Cheers
> Gary Anderson
From J & L Armour <sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:26:02 +0000
Subject: UJB143
This BMC 'works' rally was until mid year located in AUSTRALIA .
It was imported into our country in the late 1970s.I remember sitting on
the driveway of my host home the evening prior to that year's National
Rally opening event,with drill in hand having been instructed to fit the
headlights.There were already many holes existing but none aligned and I
could not bring myself to make another three--I wasn't about to
indiscriminately attack a'works' Healey.
The car passed through the hands of several owners and now........!
During its life here it had competed in the Targa Tasmania and
All Healey Race at our greatest road circuit,Bathurst,when Denis Welch
competed in his car "Bulldog"
For those interested One of the 'works' SMO cars is also for sale.
If you were considering a trip to Australia make it New Year's Eve were
the Americian LeMans Series is running as part of Don Panoz's world
series. Location,Adelaide on the Formula One circuit.
Joe
From J & L Armour <sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:40:20 +0000
Subject: Healey Voting USA Style
Sitting here downunder being stimulated by the HEALEY list discussion re
the voting situation it occurred to me that a similar voting
'stuff-up'has been managed in the past by the powers to be in your great
nation------------ VOTED AUSTIN HEALEYS into the DELETE files.
Makes you question the right to vote!!!!!!
From "Simon Lachlan" <simon.lachlan at virginnet.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:46:54 -0000
Subject: RE: Garage Floors
When I ran a busy warehouse I had it's floor painted with
red oxide paint-the stuff you can slap on metal.
It bound into the concrete well and, with two coats, has lasted
4 years so far. That's with REAL use-fork lifts, people dragging
pallets around etcetc.
Our army surplus places sell the stuff for nothing-maybe yours do
also.
Downside?:-
It stinks while it's wet.
You know it's colour-I suppose something paler might be better.
But it works really well.
Simon.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-healeys@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-healeys@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Editorgary@aol.com
> Sent: 13 November 2000 17:27
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Garage Floors
>
>
>
> A while back we had a thread about garage finishes. Now I'm
> getting ready to
> do something about mine. I'm interested in the experiences of
> anyone who has
> had their garage floor finish down for at least two years -- how has it
> worked out? Peeled or lifted? Easy to clean? Kept a nice appearance?
> We're currently considering four options: garage floor paint,
> linoleum, tile,
> or garage carpet (Griot's, among others, sells garage carpet.)
>
> Any advice?
>
> Cheers
> Gary
From "Kocik, Stephen W" <Stephen.Kocik at unisys.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:09:06 -0500
Subject: RE: Car Covers
This is not right... no way it can be correct... this statement must be
false.
>>>.My car is done>>>>>...... how can that be??? Is it not a Healey???
They are never done.. There's always another tweak that needs to be done..
Always just one more little ,,, I guess I'm jealous.. I've had mine for 11
years
and it's still not done.. and I don't think it will ever be done.. I drive
it, and I know it needs interior, and other small things. But I also know
it will never be done... but that's okay I still love it... So
congratulations on yours being done.. someday I'm going to buy a nice car
cover for mine when it's DONE....but for now the old bed spread works
fine... ;-)
Steve
'61 BN7
-----Original Message-----
From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 5:36 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Car Covers
In a message dated 11/13/00 1:42:44 PM, u2347@wvnvm.wvnet.edu writes:
<<
Hi Listers,
My car is done. I want to put a cover on it for storage
and maybe for use when we travel. Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks >>
For home storage, several sources sell all-weather covers (they're pretty
much all made by the same company in several different high-tech materials).
I think I would get one of those even if I expected to store the car indoors
most of the time, to give scratch protection in the garage and yet still be
all right for the times you're forced to leave the car outside.
For road travel, they don't work too well, however because they're bulky and
when they do get wet, they're hard to pack. For travel, I use a Tyvek cover
that I bought from Moss which is extremely light-weight and pretty
waterproof. However, for
Cheers
Gary Anderson
From Rick Snover <rsnover at ix.netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 06:54:12 -0800
Subject: Re: AHC San Diego
Hi Jim,
At 10:08 PM 11/13/00 -0800, bjate wrote:
>...Healey enthusiasts in the San Diego and surrounding areas can contact
>their membership chairperson, Rick Snover, via e-mail at
><rsnover@ix.netcom.com> or the AHCSD website at <www.sdhealey.org>
>Jim Albeck
Thanks for the promo, but I'm only the Vice President/Membership Chair -
ELECT. Brian Mix <brianmix@home.com> holds the office until January.
I would also like to direct anyone who's interested to our new Healey
Hearsay - Electronic Edition at <http://www.sdhealey.org/hh>.
TTFN,
Rick
--
Rick Snover
Editor, Healey Hearsay, and Vice President/Membership Chair - Elect
Austin-Healey Club of San Diego <http://www.sdhealey.org>
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:41:55 EST
Subject: Re: AHC San Diego
In a message dated 11/14/2000 12:18:54 AM Central Standard Time,
bjate@pacbell.net writes:
> <<Austin Healey Club of San Diego was sanction..."
Congrats and Welcome, guys !!!!
Cheers..............
Ed
'63 BJ-7 (Hortense THE Healey)
Founding member & Delegate, ILLINI Chapter - AHCA
Member, AHCUSA
Ed Kaler, Proprietor
" Just Brits "
Hinsdale, IL
www.justbrits.com
From "P.M. Pollock" <pollpete at ix.netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 07:43:54 -0800
Subject: Re: Healey Voting USA Style
Not voted- a key point -REGULATED into the dustbin.
The Federal Register, the published set of NEW US Government rules (not
Congress passed laws) each year runs more than 60,000 pages. The pond I'm
most familiar with is medicine, both from a physician's practice and from
the management of a hospital (I was a hospital district board director).
That hospital was built 35 years ago by a local governmental district
created to do so. As constructed it had an administration wing, no doubt
filled forthwith, given the nature of bureaucracies. Today it is still
filled, plus over half the medical rooms and wards, plus other large
off-site offices. That's right, over half the legal bed space is desks and
puters. The current ADMINISTRATIVE overhead is 30%, projected to go to
40%. The driver of this obscene waste of resources is government, demanding
ever more bean counts and parsing thereof in the name of
"accountability". One fairly authoritative source has estimated that in
1978 9% of US medical dollars went for administration, while in 1998 it was
48%. Studies of that issue are hard to come by, as all the purchasers of
such studies are themselves large bureaucracies and academics/consultants
know whereupon their bread is buttered. Americans are fairly worried about
the mess medicine has become, but thanks to our less than honest press and
politicians, have no idea it has been a creation of government itself,
through its control of the 1/3 of medical dollars spent on Medicare (gov't.
subsidized and controlled care for the elderly, a "sacred cow" that has
kicked over the lantern).
Ask any small businessman, the US is drowning in regulation and regulators.
All we can expect is more of the same, as one person out of six already gets
his income from government, and you better believe such people vote.
Pete Pollock
BJ7
N. California
J & L Armour wrote:
> Sitting here downunder being stimulated by the HEALEY list discussion re
> the voting situation it occurred to me that a similar voting
> 'stuff-up'has been managed in the past by the powers to be in your great
> nation------------ VOTED AUSTIN HEALEYS into the DELETE files.
> Makes you question the right to vote!!!!!!
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:28:29 EST
Subject: Re: Gas problem
In a message dated 11/13/2000 12:07:46 PM Central Standard Time,
magicare@home.com writes:
>
DITTO, Mike.
Ed
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:40:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: classic car insurance
Bill
I second what FrEd has to say - and in addition I had the unhappy experience of
making a very large claim and Hagerty handled it politely, efficiently and to
my complete satisfaction.
For what it's worth Hagerty is the Agent and Master Underwriter for CNA who is
the issuer of the policy. So if you have a claim you deal with Hagerty all the
way.
DickB
---- you wrote:
> Bill, I have Hagarty and for a few simple reasons, the most important of
> which is mileage, and personel use, they do not have a 2500 MPY restriction
> on driving or all of the small clauses on personel use such as no shopping
> or to & from work, they do discourage any dailey use. "FT"
>
> > Any suggestions on which classic car insurance company to use.....your
> > advice would be appreciated
> >
> > thanks
> > Bill B
> > Charlotte
> > '67 Healey BJ8
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:16:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: classic car insurance - LONG
Jay
My CNA Classic Automobile Policy is before me as I write this.
Hagerty is the AGENT but the CONNTRACT is between CNA and myself, as evidenced
by the declarations page being signed by the Chairman of the Board of CNA and
the Secretary of CNA.
In the Policy itself, a "covered auto" is defined as "any antique vehicle or
classic vehicle listed in the Declarations, and such are further defined as
vehicles "maintained primarily for use in car club activities, exhibitions,
parades, other functions of public interest or for a private collection; and"IS
USED ONLY INFREQUENTLY FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
The Policy also defines a "regular vehicle" as one which is used for REGULAR
DRIVING ......
The application of these definitions is a matter of interpretation between the
language of "classic auto" and "regular vehicle"
I think your 1) is Wrong. The Policy language clearly contemplates occasional
use such s you describe and to to state that "No classic car company offers
insurance protection for ANY TYPE OF occasional use for transportation purposes
..."
I would add further that in the case of my recent claim for total loss - AGREED
VALUE - which was handled by Hagerty AS AGENT for CNA, the subject of my use
NEVER EVEN CAME UP.
Contracts of Insurance and between Policyholders and Policy Issuers, NOT
Agents. Hagerty is an AGENT. When you write through Hagerty you are a
Sub-Agent. Underwriting decisions are made by Insurance Companies not
Insurance Agents.
DickB
---- you wrote:
> Fred,
> With all due respect, this classic car myth should be in the Urban Legends
> database.
>
> As a responsible insurance agent, nothing gets me more riled than this
> irresponsible advice to others to purchase a certain classic car because it
> provides coverage for limited transportation.
>
> This has been covered ad nauseum on these lists, but I will attempt to restate
> the facts concisely.
>
> 1) No classic car company (that I am aware of ) offers insurance protection
>for
> any type of occasional use for transportation purposes, i.e. shopping, going
>to
> dinner, to the golf course, etc.
>
> 2) Do you have a classic car policy? If so, read it! It's a written contract
>to
> which you are a party and it is that contract which "speaks" after a loss
> occurs.
>
> 3) Purchase such insurance through a professional that can advise you on
> precisely what benefits and coverage that contract provides and how it relates
> to your other insurance coverage contained in your standard auto policy and
> umbrella liability.
>
> If you have a disdain for insurance agents, and are coordinating this coverage
> yourself, be certain of how policies and coverages interact according to the
> laws of your particular state or consult your attorney.
>
> 4) Be honest and truthful on the application and any claim reports.
> Misrepresentation on an application can and will void coverage. In the case of
> loss reports, you can't fool the company. Claims adjusters have already heard
> every creative and clever story you think will trigger coverage. Again, read
> your policy and the disclosure statements.
>
> 5) If you still think that what a company person told you or tells you on the
> phone is contrary to what I state here, ask them a) to direct you to that
> portion of the policy contract that states what they are telling you, and b)
>if
> you do not completely understand, ask to speak with someone more experienced
> to better explain the language.
>
> I have called and corresponded with every single one of the commonly known
> classic insurers, including Hagerty (whom we represent and consider one of the
> better classic insurers) and I have yet to find ONE that provides ANY coverage
> for occasional use of the insured vehicle for shopping, etc.
>
> Hagerty was the insurer that verbally stated to me that they would allow
> occasional use of the vehicle to drive to work. When I further queried the
> underwriter on his definition of "occasional", he responded "once a year would
> be considered occasional; once a month would not". As I said, we write classic
> policies through Hagerty but we do not advise clients in the manner you
> describe. If we did, there is a simple answer to the coverage trigger after a
> loss occurs, it's called E&O, Errors & Omissions Coverage.
>
> I'm sorry but there's no free-lunch. Classic Car insurance does not provide
> coverage for the all of the uses that you describe.
>
> Sorry for the strong tone of this email, but one of these days, somebody is
> going to have a serious accident while using their vehicle based on this
> erroneous advice, there is going to be no coverage, and they are going to be
> left in a situation where their assets are at risk.
>
> Insurance is becoming a commodity in this country and it is unfortunate.
>
> Jay Fishbein
> Independent Insurance Agent
> Wallingford, CT
>
>
>
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>
> > Bill, I have Hagarty and for a few simple reasons, the most important of
> > which is mileage, and personel use, they do not have a 2500 MPY restriction
> > on driving or all of the small clauses on personel use such as no shopping
> > or to & from work, they do discourage any dailey use. "FT"
> >
> > > Any suggestions on which classic car insurance company to use.....your
> > > advice would be appreciated
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > Bill B
> > > Charlotte
> > > '67 Healey BJ8
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:19:56 EST
Subject: Re: UJB143
In a message dated 11/14/00 1:38:44 AM, sebring@illawarra.hotkey.net.au
writes:
<< For those interested One of the 'works' SMO cars is also for sale.
If you were considering a trip to Australia make it New Year's Eve were
the Americian LeMans Series is running as part of Don Panoz's world
series. Location,Adelaide on the Formula One circuit.
Joe >>
It's not a job I'd like to take on, but wouldn't it be interesting if someone
did a registry or listing of all the Specials and Works Cars and where they
are now -- maybe even a nice photograph book of what they looked like then
and what they look like now.
Cheers
gary
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:29:30 -0500
Subject: Re: throttle question
Hi Fred,
I have often found that the throttle plate will drop in the throttle shaft if
the screws are not tight enough. That can be a pain to find and causes exactly
the problem you are having.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Fred.Scheuble@triaton-na.com wrote:
> My newly rebuilt engine/carb on my bn7 has a developed a quirk relating to
> the throttle, In short it is sticking. symptom: normal driving @ 2000 rpm
> take my foot off the gas and no decrease in rpm, tap the throttle and drops
> normally. Obviously (gulp) some part of my throttle is binding, any
> suggestions on locating where?
>
> Thanks,
> Fred
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:25:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Healey Voting USA Style
Surely THIS is pushing the envelope for even the most tolerant folks on this
List.
Or would it be OK for me to post my 50K treatise on Legalization of Drugs, as
long as I give it a Subject Title like:
"Re: Healey Voting USA Style"
(Of course I only favor legalization while driving a LBC)
DickB
---- you wrote:
>
> Not voted- a key point -REGULATED into the dustbin.
>
> The Federal Register, the published set of NEW US Government rules (not
> Congress passed laws) each year runs more than 60,000 pages. The pond I'm
> most familiar with is medicine, both from a physician's practice and from
> the management of a hospital (I was a hospital district board director).
> That hospital was built 35 years ago by a local governmental district
> created to do so. As constructed it had an administration wing, no doubt
> filled forthwith, given the nature of bureaucracies. Today it is still
> filled, plus over half the medical rooms and wards, plus other large
> off-site offices. That's right, over half the legal bed space is desks and
> puters. The current ADMINISTRATIVE overhead is 30%, projected to go to
> 40%. The driver of this obscene waste of resources is government, demanding
> ever more bean counts and parsing thereof in the name of
> "accountability". One fairly authoritative source has estimated that in
> 1978 9% of US medical dollars went for administration, while in 1998 it was
> 48%. Studies of that issue are hard to come by, as all the purchasers of
> such studies are themselves large bureaucracies and academics/consultants
> know whereupon their bread is buttered. Americans are fairly worried about
> the mess medicine has become, but thanks to our less than honest press and
> politicians, have no idea it has been a creation of government itself,
> through its control of the 1/3 of medical dollars spent on Medicare (gov't.
> subsidized and controlled care for the elderly, a "sacred cow" that has
> kicked over the lantern).
>
> Ask any small businessman, the US is drowning in regulation and regulators.
> All we can expect is more of the same, as one person out of six already gets
> his income from government, and you better believe such people vote.
>
> Pete Pollock
> BJ7
> N. California
>
> J & L Armour wrote:
>
> > Sitting here downunder being stimulated by the HEALEY list discussion re
> > the voting situation it occurred to me that a similar voting
> > 'stuff-up'has been managed in the past by the powers to be in your great
> > nation------------ VOTED AUSTIN HEALEYS into the DELETE files.
> > Makes you question the right to vote!!!!!!
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
From type79 at ix.netcom.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:34:27 -0500
Subject: Re: classic car insurance - SHORT
Dick,
I stand by my statements. You don't have to agree with them nor accept them.
Further, this thread started on the British Car List where I stated that this
subject was covered "ad nauseum". I for one am tired of it as I am sure are
many others.
jay
From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:32:03 -0800
Subject: RE: UJB143
Gary,
I have a list as an adjunct to the 100S register. But the accuracy for
current owners is probably only 20%. Those cars are much harder to keep
track of compared to the S's.
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
-----Original Message-----
From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 9:20 AM
To: Healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: UJB143
In a message dated 11/14/00 1:38:44 AM, sebring@illawarra.hotkey.net.au
writes:
<< For those interested One of the 'works' SMO cars is also for sale.
If you were considering a trip to Australia make it New Year's Eve were
the Americian LeMans Series is running as part of Don Panoz's world
series. Location,Adelaide on the Formula One circuit.
Joe >>
It's not a job I'd like to take on, but wouldn't it be interesting if
someone
did a registry or listing of all the Specials and Works Cars and where they
are now -- maybe even a nice photograph book of what they looked like then
and what they look like now.
Cheers
gary
From "frogeye" <frogeye at gateway.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:41:56 -0700
Subject: Re: Healey Voting USA Style
I'm going to call Dr. Joy Brown today and see if there isn't something we
all can do for this poor soul............
Dave@Taos Garage Annex in Albuquerque
59 AH :{) 54 BN1
Click below for webpage and mopeds:
http://ibelong.koz.com/ibn/ignore?MIval=cge&GID=01039011420945892954943146
----- Original Message -----
From: <dickb@cheerful.com>
To: "P.M. Pollock" <pollpete@ix.netcom.com>; "austin healey list"
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Healey Voting USA Style
>
> Surely THIS is pushing the envelope for even the most tolerant folks on
this List.
>
> Or would it be OK for me to post my 50K treatise on Legalization of Drugs,
as long as I give it a Subject Title like:
>
> "Re: Healey Voting USA Style"
>
> (Of course I only favor legalization while driving a LBC)
>
> DickB
>
> ---- you wrote:
> >
> > Not voted- a key point -REGULATED into the dustbin.
> >
> > The Federal Register, the published set of NEW US Government rules (not
> > Congress passed laws) each year runs more than 60,000 pages. The pond
I'm
> > most familiar with is medicine, both from a physician's practice and
from
> > the management of a hospital (I was a hospital district board director).
> > That hospital was built 35 years ago by a local governmental district
> > created to do so. As constructed it had an administration wing, no
doubt
> > filled forthwith, given the nature of bureaucracies. Today it is still
> > filled, plus over half the medical rooms and wards, plus other large
> > off-site offices. That's right, over half the legal bed space is desks
and
> > puters. The current ADMINISTRATIVE overhead is 30%, projected to go to
> > 40%. The driver of this obscene waste of resources is government,
demanding
> > ever more bean counts and parsing thereof in the name of
> > "accountability". One fairly authoritative source has estimated that
in
> > 1978 9% of US medical dollars went for administration, while in 1998 it
was
> > 48%. Studies of that issue are hard to come by, as all the purchasers
of
> > such studies are themselves large bureaucracies and
academics/consultants
> > know whereupon their bread is buttered. Americans are fairly worried
about
> > the mess medicine has become, but thanks to our less than honest press
and
> > politicians, have no idea it has been a creation of government itself,
> > through its control of the 1/3 of medical dollars spent on Medicare
(gov't.
> > subsidized and controlled care for the elderly, a "sacred cow" that has
> > kicked over the lantern).
> >
> > Ask any small businessman, the US is drowning in regulation and
regulators.
> > All we can expect is more of the same, as one person out of six already
gets
> > his income from government, and you better believe such people vote.
> >
> > Pete Pollock
> > BJ7
> > N. California
> >
> > J & L Armour wrote:
> >
> > > Sitting here downunder being stimulated by the HEALEY list discussion
re
> > > the voting situation it occurred to me that a similar voting
> > > 'stuff-up'has been managed in the past by the powers to be in your
great
> > > nation------------ VOTED AUSTIN HEALEYS into the DELETE files.
> > > Makes you question the right to vote!!!!!!
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:37:21 EST
Subject: List Etiquette-No Technical Healey Content
Over the last week, some of us on this list have exchanged comments on the
current state of the election, enjoying the opportunities to hear from folks
overseas and in other regions, instead of just those around our own office
coffee pot.
I've appreciated this opportunity, but as with others, have noted that such
discussions should be subject-listed for what they are -- commentaries
unrelated to Healeys.
I don't want to insist that such non-Healey discussions be proscribed from
the list--I even enjoyed the comments on the U.S. health administration
system. However, I would like to suggest that if a Healey topic reminds you
of a non-Healey issue you're interested in discussing, or an opinion you'd
like to vent, first change the subject line to what it is you're going to
discuss (e.g. "non-Healey--comments on U.S. health care") and then vent all
you like. I'll probably read it (we have a very small office and I enjoy the
conversations) but others who want to limit their reading to just Healey
stuff can delete or ignore it.
Cheers
Gary Anderson
From Fred.Scheuble at triaton-na.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:42:10 -0500
Subject: RE: Quote of the day... No Healey content...
lol
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Durant [mailto:jdurant@stlnet.com]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 9:24 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Fw: Quote of the day... No Healey content...
-----------------------------------------------------
Click here for Free Video!!
http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/
----- Original Message -----
From: <DMassmann1@aol.com>
To: <camp9290@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 6:58 PM
Subject: Quote of the day...
<<
BEST QUOTE OF
> > > THE DAY
> > >
> > > "YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT THOSE OLD LADIES IN PALM
> > > BEACH CAN
> > > PLAY 15 BINGO CARDS SIMULTANEOUSLY - BUT CAN'T PUNCH A BALLOT!" >>
From Bill Katz <bkatz at handsonresearch.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:26:07 -0800
Subject: OT: Car museums in LA
I may be making a last minute Thanksgiving trip to LA. Since I won't be
there long I may only have time to hit one car museum and was wondering if
I should go to the Peterson or the Nethercutt. I've never been to either,
but the Nethercutt sure looks good as a backdrop for the Classics show on
Speedvision. The pics of the Peterson remind me of the Reno museum, which
I've been to.
Feel free to reply off list, so as not to disturb the disturbed<g>
thnx
Bill Katz
Bay Area, CA
'67 BJ8
'94 325is
http://www.handsonresearch.com/healey
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:42:59 -0800
Subject: RE: Car museums in LA
As disturbed as I am, I would be interested in this info as well. I'm not
going to be this far south for much longer and I've also never visited
either of them.
Jonathan Lane
Retail Sales
Moss Motors, Ltd.
(800) 235-6954 x3240
(805) 692-2525 - Fax
lanej@mossmotors.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Katz [mailto:bkatz@handsonresearch.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 10:26 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: OT: Car museums in LA
I may be making a last minute Thanksgiving trip to LA. Since I won't be
there long I may only have time to hit one car museum and was wondering if
I should go to the Peterson or the Nethercutt. I've never been to either,
but the Nethercutt sure looks good as a backdrop for the Classics show on
Speedvision. The pics of the Peterson remind me of the Reno museum, which
I've been to.
Feel free to reply off list, so as not to disturb the disturbed<g>
thnx
Bill Katz
Bay Area, CA
'67 BJ8
'94 325is
http://www.handsonresearch.com/healey
From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:50:53 -0800
Subject: RE: Car museums in LA
Peterson first then depending on taste, San Diego, Nethercutt, and Deer
Park. Also the Automotive book store in Burbank, Boyd Coddingtons in Garden
Grove, the hot rod stores in Orange, etc.
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
-----Original Message-----
From: Lane, Jonathan [mailto:lanej@mossmotors.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 10:43 AM
To: 'Bill Katz'; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Car museums in LA
As disturbed as I am, I would be interested in this info as well. I'm not
going to be this far south for much longer and I've also never visited
either of them.
Jonathan Lane
Retail Sales
Moss Motors, Ltd.
(800) 235-6954 x3240
(805) 692-2525 - Fax
lanej@mossmotors.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Katz [mailto:bkatz@handsonresearch.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 10:26 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: OT: Car museums in LA
I may be making a last minute Thanksgiving trip to LA. Since I won't be
there long I may only have time to hit one car museum and was wondering if
I should go to the Peterson or the Nethercutt. I've never been to either,
but the Nethercutt sure looks good as a backdrop for the Classics show on
Speedvision. The pics of the Peterson remind me of the Reno museum, which
I've been to.
Feel free to reply off list, so as not to disturb the disturbed<g>
thnx
Bill Katz
Bay Area, CA
'67 BJ8
'94 325is
http://www.handsonresearch.com/healey
From Fred.Scheuble at triaton-na.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 13:56:25 -0500
Subject: RE: Healey Voting USA Style
LOL
-----Original Message-----
From: frogeye [mailto:frogeye@gateway.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:42 PM
To: dickb@cheerful.com; P.M. Pollock; austin healey list
Subject: Re: Healey Voting USA Style
I'm going to call Dr. Joy Brown today and see if there isn't something we
all can do for this poor soul............
Dave@Taos Garage Annex in Albuquerque
59 AH :{) 54 BN1
Click below for webpage and mopeds:
http://ibelong.koz.com/ibn/ignore?MIval=cge&GID=01039011420945892954943146
----- Original Message -----
From: <dickb@cheerful.com>
To: "P.M. Pollock" <pollpete@ix.netcom.com>; "austin healey list"
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Healey Voting USA Style
>
> Surely THIS is pushing the envelope for even the most tolerant folks on
this List.
>
> Or would it be OK for me to post my 50K treatise on Legalization of Drugs,
as long as I give it a Subject Title like:
>
> "Re: Healey Voting USA Style"
>
> (Of course I only favor legalization while driving a LBC)
>
> DickB
>
> ---- you wrote:
> >
> > Not voted- a key point -REGULATED into the dustbin.
> >
> > The Federal Register, the published set of NEW US Government rules (not
> > Congress passed laws) each year runs more than 60,000 pages. The pond
I'm
> > most familiar with is medicine, both from a physician's practice and
from
> > the management of a hospital (I was a hospital district board director).
> > That hospital was built 35 years ago by a local governmental district
> > created to do so. As constructed it had an administration wing, no
doubt
> > filled forthwith, given the nature of bureaucracies. Today it is still
> > filled, plus over half the medical rooms and wards, plus other large
> > off-site offices. That's right, over half the legal bed space is desks
and
> > puters. The current ADMINISTRATIVE overhead is 30%, projected to go to
> > 40%. The driver of this obscene waste of resources is government,
demanding
> > ever more bean counts and parsing thereof in the name of
> > "accountability". One fairly authoritative source has estimated that
in
> > 1978 9% of US medical dollars went for administration, while in 1998 it
was
> > 48%. Studies of that issue are hard to come by, as all the purchasers
of
> > such studies are themselves large bureaucracies and
academics/consultants
> > know whereupon their bread is buttered. Americans are fairly worried
about
> > the mess medicine has become, but thanks to our less than honest press
and
> > politicians, have no idea it has been a creation of government itself,
> > through its control of the 1/3 of medical dollars spent on Medicare
(gov't.
> > subsidized and controlled care for the elderly, a "sacred cow" that has
> > kicked over the lantern).
> >
> > Ask any small businessman, the US is drowning in regulation and
regulators.
> > All we can expect is more of the same, as one person out of six already
gets
> > his income from government, and you better believe such people vote.
> >
> > Pete Pollock
> > BJ7
> > N. California
> >
> > J & L Armour wrote:
> >
> > > Sitting here downunder being stimulated by the HEALEY list discussion
re
> > > the voting situation it occurred to me that a similar voting
> > > 'stuff-up'has been managed in the past by the powers to be in your
great
> > > nation------------ VOTED AUSTIN HEALEYS into the DELETE files.
> > > Makes you question the right to vote!!!!!!
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
From Terry Blubaugh <tblubaugh at earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:18:30 -0800
Subject: Re: OT: Car museums in LA
Bill,
Try The Nethercutt Collection for a change. They also have a world-class
collection of musical instruments, hood ornaments, etc. The performances for
the huge Wurlitzer pipe organ are normally sold out two or three months in
advance.
You might also look into the Corvette museum in Ventura. I don't have the
name or address, but perhaps another list member does. I understand the
showpiece Corvette literally "shakes the building" when started.
Also, Nethercutt is closed on Sunday and Monday.
Terry Blubaugh
Bill Kate wrote:
> I may be making a last minute Thanksgiving trip to LA. Since I won't be
> there long I may only have time to hit one car museum and was wondering if
> I should go to the Peterson or the Nethercutt. I've never been to either,
> but the Nethercutt sure looks good as a backdrop for the Classics show on
> Speedvision. The pics of the Peterson remind me of the Reno museum, which
> I've been to.
>
> Feel free to reply off list, so as not to disturb the disturbed<g>
>
> thnx
>
> Bill Katz
> Bay Area, CA
> '67 BJ8
> '94 325is
> http://www.handsonresearch.com/healey
From "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 13:45:47 -0600
Subject: Re: OT: Car museums in LA
I have only been to Peterson's and was truly impressed by the way they did
the lay out.... very nice place...
If your into Hot Rods... the LA Roadster show is Always a Must see on
fathers day weekend.... I just can't get into a street Rod... it would be
like having a Playboy model and leaving her home.... what good do they do
you if you can't drive them!!!
Look at John Hunt... he is driving Two Concours cars.... and Very High
Level cars.... that is what Donald Healey wanted...
K
----------
> From: Terry Blubaugh <tblubaugh@earthlink.net>
> To: Bill Katz <bkatz@handsonresearch.com>
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: OT: Car museums in LA
> Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:18 PM
>
>
> Bill,
>
> Try The Nethercutt Collection for a change. They also have a world-class
> collection of musical instruments, hood ornaments, etc. The performances
for
> the huge Wurlitzer pipe organ are normally sold out two or three months
in
> advance.
>
> You might also look into the Corvette museum in Ventura. I don't have
the
> name or address, but perhaps another list member does. I understand the
> showpiece Corvette literally "shakes the building" when started.
>
> Also, Nethercutt is closed on Sunday and Monday.
>
> Terry Blubaugh
>
>
>
> Bill Kate wrote:
>
> > I may be making a last minute Thanksgiving trip to LA. Since I won't be
> > there long I may only have time to hit one car museum and was wondering
if
> > I should go to the Peterson or the Nethercutt. I've never been to
either,
> > but the Nethercutt sure looks good as a backdrop for the Classics show
on
> > Speedvision. The pics of the Peterson remind me of the Reno museum,
which
> > I've been to.
> >
> > Feel free to reply off list, so as not to disturb the disturbed<g>
> >
> > thnx
> >
> > Bill Katz
> > Bay Area, CA
> > '67 BJ8
> > '94 325is
> > http://www.handsonresearch.com/healey
From M Brouillette <mbrouill at ix.netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:49:43 -0500
Subject: Ebay Austin Healey Association On Tour Bumper sign
Folks,
While wandering Ebay I came across an Austin Healey Association On
Tour
Bumper sign. I've never seen one before, and don't have any interest in
it, but knowing our kind, and how we like to buy such things, I thought I'd
pass it on...
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=496094784
From Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 20:45:41 +0000
Subject: Wanted - Dipstick
Now I know that this may sound crazy but I am in the market for a dipstick for a
29D series engine...Preferably without engine ;-).
Oh and at a reasonable price. Can anyone help?
I am quite happy to pay mailing from US to UK - or Oz or NZ or....
Regards,
Peter Dzwig
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 13:10:49 -0800
Subject: RE: OT: Car museums in LA
Actually it has been my experience that hot rod guys drive their cars to
events far more than concours guys. Trailer queens are highly frowned upon
in this crowd. Personally, I think cars should gain points for stone chips
and oil leaks rather than lose them, but I guess I'm just funny that way.
Way to go John Hunt! Keep racking up the miles and smiles.
Jonathan Lane
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Turk [mailto:kturk@ala.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:46 AM
To: Terry Blubaugh; Bill Katz
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: OT: Car museums in LA
I have only been to Peterson's and was truly impressed by the way they did
the lay out.... very nice place...
If your into Hot Rods... the LA Roadster show is Always a Must see on
fathers day weekend.... I just can't get into a street Rod... it would be
like having a Playboy model and leaving her home.... what good do they do
you if you can't drive them!!!
Look at John Hunt... he is driving Two Concours cars.... and Very High
Level cars.... that is what Donald Healey wanted...
K
----------
> From: Terry Blubaugh <tblubaugh@earthlink.net>
> To: Bill Katz <bkatz@handsonresearch.com>
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: OT: Car museums in LA
> Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:18 PM
>
>
> Bill,
>
> Try The Nethercutt Collection for a change. They also have a world-class
> collection of musical instruments, hood ornaments, etc. The performances
for
> the huge Wurlitzer pipe organ are normally sold out two or three months
in
> advance.
>
> You might also look into the Corvette museum in Ventura. I don't have
the
> name or address, but perhaps another list member does. I understand the
> showpiece Corvette literally "shakes the building" when started.
>
> Also, Nethercutt is closed on Sunday and Monday.
>
> Terry Blubaugh
>
>
>
> Bill Kate wrote:
>
> > I may be making a last minute Thanksgiving trip to LA. Since I won't be
> > there long I may only have time to hit one car museum and was wondering
if
> > I should go to the Peterson or the Nethercutt. I've never been to
either,
> > but the Nethercutt sure looks good as a backdrop for the Classics show
on
> > Speedvision. The pics of the Peterson remind me of the Reno museum,
which
> > I've been to.
> >
> > Feel free to reply off list, so as not to disturb the disturbed<g>
> >
> > thnx
> >
> > Bill Katz
> > Bay Area, CA
> > '67 BJ8
> > '94 325is
> > http://www.handsonresearch.com/healey
From "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:30:53 -0600
Subject: Re: OT: Car museums in LA
John and I had a deal worked out here last month to set a record with one
of them on the East Coast... it would have been the first time in Years
that a PURE Healey set a Real Land speed racing record.... but I have one
picked out special for him... anyway he was also going to let Will Handzel
drive one of them from Charlotte to Maxton.... about a 2 hr trip.... when
questioned about what we would do if it rained... he said... " well Keith I
guess we put the top up or get WET"
I was telling Will Handzel about this car being one of the finest in the
land and John Corrected me... it's the second Highest Scoring Concours
car... his BJ8 is the First.... I have seen John's BJ8 at the
International Motorsports Hall of Fame induction ceremony for Donald
Healey.... Trust me it's that Nice...( I was just to ignorant of concours
cars to tell you it was ABSOLUTELY the best ).... and he Drives this car!!!
I know alot of folks ate up with the Healey Hobby.... but nobody more
dedicated to the sport then JOHN.... neat guy...
Keith ( NO John.... I don't NEED a Boat this Year )
----------
> From: Lane, Jonathan <lanej@mossmotors.com>
> To: 'Keith Turk' <kturk@ala.net>; Healeys (E-mail)
<Healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: RE: OT: Car museums in LA
> Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 3:10 PM
>
> Actually it has been my experience that hot rod guys drive their cars to
> events far more than concours guys. Trailer queens are highly frowned
upon
> in this crowd. Personally, I think cars should gain points for stone
chips
> and oil leaks rather than lose them, but I guess I'm just funny that way.
> Way to go John Hunt! Keep racking up the miles and smiles.
>
>
> Jonathan Lane
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Turk [mailto:kturk@ala.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:46 AM
> To: Terry Blubaugh; Bill Katz
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: OT: Car museums in LA
>
>
>
> I have only been to Peterson's and was truly impressed by the way they
did
> the lay out.... very nice place...
>
> If your into Hot Rods... the LA Roadster show is Always a Must see on
> fathers day weekend.... I just can't get into a street Rod... it would
be
> like having a Playboy model and leaving her home.... what good do they do
> you if you can't drive them!!!
>
> Look at John Hunt... he is driving Two Concours cars.... and Very High
> Level cars.... that is what Donald Healey wanted...
>
> K
>
> ----------
> > From: Terry Blubaugh <tblubaugh@earthlink.net>
> > To: Bill Katz <bkatz@handsonresearch.com>
> > Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: OT: Car museums in LA
> > Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:18 PM
> >
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > Try The Nethercutt Collection for a change. They also have a
world-class
> > collection of musical instruments, hood ornaments, etc. The
performances
> for
> > the huge Wurlitzer pipe organ are normally sold out two or three
months
> in
> > advance.
> >
> > You might also look into the Corvette museum in Ventura. I don't have
> the
> > name or address, but perhaps another list member does. I understand
the
> > showpiece Corvette literally "shakes the building" when started.
> >
> > Also, Nethercutt is closed on Sunday and Monday.
> >
> > Terry Blubaugh
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Kate wrote:
> >
> > > I may be making a last minute Thanksgiving trip to LA. Since I won't
be
> > > there long I may only have time to hit one car museum and was
wondering
> if
> > > I should go to the Peterson or the Nethercutt. I've never been to
> either,
> > > but the Nethercutt sure looks good as a backdrop for the Classics
show
> on
> > > Speedvision. The pics of the Peterson remind me of the Reno museum,
> which
> > > I've been to.
> > >
> > > Feel free to reply off list, so as not to disturb the disturbed<g>
> > >
> > > thnx
> > >
> > > Bill Katz
> > > Bay Area, CA
> > > '67 BJ8
> > > '94 325is
> > > http://www.handsonresearch.com/healey
From "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:34:52 -0600
Subject: Re: OT: Car museums in LA
When I go to the Street Rod National's to hang out with my Sister and her
Husband... I keep thinking I drove to a Trailer meet and to check out all
the cars that showed up....
K
----------
> From: Lane, Jonathan <lanej@mossmotors.com>
> To: 'Keith Turk' <kturk@ala.net>; Healeys (E-mail)
<Healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: RE: OT: Car museums in LA
> Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 3:10 PM
>
>
> Actually it has been my experience that hot rod guys drive their cars to
> events far more than concours guys. Trailer queens are highly frowned
upon
> in this crowd. Personally, I think cars should gain points for stone
chips
> and oil leaks rather than lose them, but I guess I'm just funny that way.
> Way to go John Hunt! Keep racking up the miles and smiles.
>
>
> Jonathan Lane
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Turk [mailto:kturk@ala.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:46 AM
> To: Terry Blubaugh; Bill Katz
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: OT: Car museums in LA
>
>
>
> I have only been to Peterson's and was truly impressed by the way they
did
> the lay out.... very nice place...
>
> If your into Hot Rods... the LA Roadster show is Always a Must see on
> fathers day weekend.... I just can't get into a street Rod... it would
be
> like having a Playboy model and leaving her home.... what good do they do
> you if you can't drive them!!!
>
> Look at John Hunt... he is driving Two Concours cars.... and Very High
> Level cars.... that is what Donald Healey wanted...
>
> K
>
> ----------
> > From: Terry Blubaugh <tblubaugh@earthlink.net>
> > To: Bill Katz <bkatz@handsonresearch.com>
> > Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: OT: Car museums in LA
> > Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:18 PM
> >
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > Try The Nethercutt Collection for a change. They also have a
world-class
> > collection of musical instruments, hood ornaments, etc. The
performances
> for
> > the huge Wurlitzer pipe organ are normally sold out two or three
months
> in
> > advance.
> >
> > You might also look into the Corvette museum in Ventura. I don't have
> the
> > name or address, but perhaps another list member does. I understand
the
> > showpiece Corvette literally "shakes the building" when started.
> >
> > Also, Nethercutt is closed on Sunday and Monday.
> >
> > Terry Blubaugh
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Kate wrote:
> >
> > > I may be making a last minute Thanksgiving trip to LA. Since I won't
be
> > > there long I may only have time to hit one car museum and was
wondering
> if
> > > I should go to the Peterson or the Nethercutt. I've never been to
> either,
> > > but the Nethercutt sure looks good as a backdrop for the Classics
show
> on
> > > Speedvision. The pics of the Peterson remind me of the Reno museum,
> which
> > > I've been to.
> > >
> > > Feel free to reply off list, so as not to disturb the disturbed<g>
> > >
> > > thnx
> > >
> > > Bill Katz
> > > Bay Area, CA
> > > '67 BJ8
> > > '94 325is
> > > http://www.handsonresearch.com/healey
From JohnbS7257 at aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:50:15 EST
Subject: Re: UJB143
Gee Gary, you did such a nice job with your last book................
John Stevens
"Ruby" BJ8 27621
JohnbS7257@aol.com
From "James Sailer" <sailer at srv.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 07:36:04 -0700
Subject: BJ8 Exhaust options
Greetings all,
I am preparing to pull my BJ8 off the road for the winter and have some
project in line for the winter. Snow on the roads now but hoping to get a
thaw to take a thanksgiving visitor for a ride....
I want to install a better sounding exhaust on my BJ8, and enhance
performance (if possible). The stock exhaust was awfully quite for a Healey
so I removed the rear silencers and simply repaced them with pipe. I then
had the same configuration. It is however pretty loud/obnoxious between
3500 RPM and 4500 RPM so I am looking for options and insight.......
Stock System - Does this sytem have good flow characteristics and should I
go back?
Monza - Smaller bore than BJ8 system I hear (and none designed for BJ8... )
resulting in much fitting I hear... Advantages to this system If I do the
work...
Others.
Thanks.
Jim Sailer
66 BJ8
From "JISah102" <ah102 at home.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:27:19 -0500
Subject: Re: UJB143
Hey Gary: If you do this book, I'll place an order right now!
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
To: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: UJB143
>
> In a message dated 11/14/00 1:38:44 AM, sebring@illawarra.hotkey.net.au
> writes:
>
> << For those interested One of the 'works' SMO cars is also for sale.
> If you were considering a trip to Australia make it New Year's Eve were
> the Americian LeMans Series is running as part of Don Panoz's world
> series. Location,Adelaide on the Formula One circuit.
> Joe >>
>
> It's not a job I'd like to take on, but wouldn't it be interesting if
someone
> did a registry or listing of all the Specials and Works Cars and where
they
> are now -- maybe even a nice photograph book of what they looked like then
> and what they look like now.
> Cheers
> gary
From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:38:20 -0800
Subject: RE: BJ8 Exhaust options
Jim,
I like my long glass packs on the front and stock (stainless) resonators on
the rear. Its got the right rap and not too loud.
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
-----Original Message-----
From: James Sailer [mailto:sailer@srv.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 6:36 AM
To: Healey List
Subject: BJ8 Exhaust options
Greetings all,
I am preparing to pull my BJ8 off the road for the winter and have some
project in line for the winter. Snow on the roads now but hoping to get a
thaw to take a thanksgiving visitor for a ride....
I want to install a better sounding exhaust on my BJ8, and enhance
performance (if possible). The stock exhaust was awfully quite for a Healey
so I removed the rear silencers and simply repaced them with pipe. I then
had the same configuration. It is however pretty loud/obnoxious between
3500 RPM and 4500 RPM so I am looking for options and insight.......
Stock System - Does this sytem have good flow characteristics and should I
go back?
Monza - Smaller bore than BJ8 system I hear (and none designed for BJ8... )
resulting in much fitting I hear... Advantages to this system If I do the
work...
Others.
Thanks.
Jim Sailer
66 BJ8
From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:42:18 -0800
Subject: works cars book
The book can't be done in America. There aren't any relevant cars here.
American Healey enthusiasts wouldn't walk across the street to see a unusual
Healey or a 100S. They can't relate their own restoration woes, problems, or
teenage experiences to them. Please prove me wrong. This is a much more
relevant topic to start a flame war with!!!
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
ex 100S owner
-----Original Message-----
From: JISah102 [mailto:ah102@home.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 2:27 PM
To: Editorgary@aol.com; Healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: UJB143
Hey Gary: If you do this book, I'll place an order right now!
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
To: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: UJB143
>
> In a message dated 11/14/00 1:38:44 AM, sebring@illawarra.hotkey.net.au
> writes:
>
> << For those interested One of the 'works' SMO cars is also for sale.
> If you were considering a trip to Australia make it New Year's Eve were
> the Americian LeMans Series is running as part of Don Panoz's world
> series. Location,Adelaide on the Formula One circuit.
> Joe >>
>
> It's not a job I'd like to take on, but wouldn't it be interesting if
someone
> did a registry or listing of all the Specials and Works Cars and where
they
> are now -- maybe even a nice photograph book of what they looked like then
> and what they look like now.
> Cheers
> gary
From "David Masucci" <david_m at radiantsoundworks.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 18:11:56 -0800
Subject: Re: BJ8 Exhaust options
Hey Jim....I remember when the BJ8's came out and my Dad had one. My brother
hated the exhaust and threatened to replace it with the exhaust from the
previous model.
I think I asked this question on the list before but don't remember if I got
the answer that I was looking for. So I'll bring it up again. Has anyone
ever put a BJ7 (or earlier 6 cyl) exhaust on a BJ8? Do the frame mods allow
it to still fit? Are the mounting points still there for the older exhaust
on the newer car?
I have been considering doing this to my BJ8, but I haven't researched if
it's an easy swap. Does anyone have the answers to these questions?
Dave
BJ8
TR4A
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Sailer" <sailer@srv.net>
To: "Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 6:36 AM
Subject: BJ8 Exhaust options
>
> Greetings all,
>
> I am preparing to pull my BJ8 off the road for the winter and have some
> project in line for the winter. Snow on the roads now but hoping to get a
> thaw to take a thanksgiving visitor for a ride....
>
> I want to install a better sounding exhaust on my BJ8, and enhance
> performance (if possible). The stock exhaust was awfully quite for a
Healey
> so I removed the rear silencers and simply repaced them with pipe. I then
> had the same configuration. It is however pretty loud/obnoxious between
> 3500 RPM and 4500 RPM so I am looking for options and insight.......
>
> Stock System - Does this sytem have good flow characteristics and should I
> go back?
>
> Monza - Smaller bore than BJ8 system I hear (and none designed for
J8... )
> resulting in much fitting I hear... Advantages to this system If I do the
> work...
>
> Others.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim Sailer
> 66 BJ8
From Roland Wilhelmy <rwil at cts.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:19:56 -0800
Subject: Re: works cars book
Heck, Ken, I would drive 50 miles each way on any weekend to get an up
close look at a 100S or works car or such -- so long as I didn't have
to cut fences or break padlocks to get in :-) I would buy and read a
works cars book. I even saved your 100S list that you posted a few
years back.
Yes, I had a BN2 as a teen, no I never owned a 100S, yes I try to do
most of my restoration work myself, and the reason I didn't buy your
100S was because I don't have the money.
-Roland
BJ7, BN1
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:42:18 -0800, Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com (Freese,
Ken) wrote:
:: The book can't be done in America. There aren't any relevant cars here.
:: American Healey enthusiasts wouldn't walk across the street to see a unusual
:: Healey or a 100S. They can't relate their own restoration woes, problems, or
:: teenage experiences to them. Please prove me wrong. This is a much more
:: relevant topic to start a flame war with!!!
:: Ken Freese
:: 65 BJ8
:: ex 100S owner
From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:21:33 -0800
Subject: RE: works cars book
ok, the score is 1 to 750.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Wilhelmy [mailto:rwil@cts.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 4:20 PM
To: Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com
Cc: Healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: works cars book
Heck, Ken, I would drive 50 miles each way on any weekend to get an up
close look at a 100S or works car or such -- so long as I didn't have
to cut fences or break padlocks to get in :-) I would buy and read a
works cars book. I even saved your 100S list that you posted a few
years back.
Yes, I had a BN2 as a teen, no I never owned a 100S, yes I try to do
most of my restoration work myself, and the reason I didn't buy your
100S was because I don't have the money.
-Roland
BJ7, BN1
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:42:18 -0800, Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com (Freese,
Ken) wrote:
:: The book can't be done in America. There aren't any relevant cars here.
:: American Healey enthusiasts wouldn't walk across the street to see a
unusual
:: Healey or a 100S. They can't relate their own restoration woes, problems,
or
:: teenage experiences to them. Please prove me wrong. This is a much more
:: relevant topic to start a flame war with!!!
:: Ken Freese
:: 65 BJ8
:: ex 100S owner
From "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 18:36:51 -0600
Subject: Re: works cars book
Ken make it 2-750... I would love to see one...having owned a BN2 for over
Twenty years... I think you know I have a Significant interest in anything
Healey and most things Fast....
Don't have Teen Dreams.... but I sure would love to have seen it....
K
----- Original Message -----
From: "Freese, Ken" <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
To: "'Roland Wilhelmy'" <rwil@cts.com>; "Freese, Ken"
<Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
Cc: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 6:21 PM
Subject: RE: works cars book
>
> ok, the score is 1 to 750.
> Ken
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roland Wilhelmy [mailto:rwil@cts.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 4:20 PM
> To: Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com
> Cc: Healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: works cars book
>
>
> Heck, Ken, I would drive 50 miles each way on any weekend to get an up
> close look at a 100S or works car or such -- so long as I didn't have
> to cut fences or break padlocks to get in :-) I would buy and read a
> works cars book. I even saved your 100S list that you posted a few
> years back.
>
> Yes, I had a BN2 as a teen, no I never owned a 100S, yes I try to do
> most of my restoration work myself, and the reason I didn't buy your
> 100S was because I don't have the money.
>
> -Roland
> BJ7, BN1
>
> On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:42:18 -0800, Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com (Freese,
> Ken) wrote:
>
> :: The book can't be done in America. There aren't any relevant cars here.
> :: American Healey enthusiasts wouldn't walk across the street to see a
> unusual
> :: Healey or a 100S. They can't relate their own restoration woes,
problems,
> or
> :: teenage experiences to them. Please prove me wrong. This is a much more
> :: relevant topic to start a flame war with!!!
> :: Ken Freese
> :: 65 BJ8
> :: ex 100S owner
From Ward Stebner <liason at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:06:40 -0600
Subject: Re: works cars book
> > On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:42:18 -0800, Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com (Freese,
> > Ken) wrote:
> >
> > :: The book can't be done in America. There aren't any relevant cars here.
> > :: American Healey enthusiasts wouldn't walk across the street to see a
> > unusual
> > :: Healey or a 100S. They can't relate their own restoration woes,
> problems,
> > or
> > :: teenage experiences to them. Please prove me wrong. This is a much more
> > :: relevant topic to start a flame war with!!!
> > :: Ken Freese
> > :: 65 BJ8
> > :: ex 100S owner
Ken, I have to make the score 3-747. I had my family in tow this past
summer as we went to Banff, AB to see the closest thing that I have ever
come to a works car and that was the two "Rally Prepared" cars that
competed in the Around the World Rally. I think that many of the people
on the list who helped with the Around the World Rally probably felt as
I did (hopefully I am not speaking out of turn for the many Healey
enthusiasts who helped Peter/ Ann /Rick and Stuart). While in Banff, I
had the pleasure of meeting Mike and Susan Blair, who had driven from
Montana to see the cars, and I'm sure that many people involved with the
rally had similar experiences.
The chances of actually seeing a works car here in central Canada are
quite slim. I have been to two West Coast meets, one in Oregon and one
in Washington and have seen nothing close to a works car yet. Are there
any on the West Coast of the USA? If I drag my family to Lake Tahoe in
2002, will I see any there? I sure hope so!
I have such an appreciation for the works cars that I am painting my BN2
(contrary to popular demand, I'm not painting it it's original colour of
Red over Black) Old English White over Lobelia Blue. Not as a 100S
replica or anything like that, just because I like the history involved.
Ken, I am not meaning to disagree with your comments about American
Healey owners not crossing the street to see an uncommon Healey, but
maybe there just hasn't been any around to see for a while.
Ward Stebner
Saskatoon, SK Canada
!956 BN2 (Soon to be Old English White over Lobelia Blue)
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 20:46:24 EST
Subject: Re: RE: Car museums in LA
It may just be me, but I've never been that overwhelmed with the Petersen. It
is convenient to other museums in the downtown LA area, a plus, but I can get
through Cars of the Stars very quickly, and the dioramas of Cars in LA are
more history and stage set than car (the cars in them are pretty hum-drum).
Nethercutt, on the other hand has a large collection of absolutely stunning
and fabulously significant cars (though almost all American, it should be
pointed out) which are displayed in a drop-dead gorgeous baroque and marble
setting. And if your wife gets bored with the cars, there are also some
interesting displays of nickelodeons and furniture. The downside is that it
is on the far side of the San Fernando Valley north of Burbank -- though you
could easily do Universal Studios or Magic Mountain and the Nethercutt in one
day.
Cheers
Gary
From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 18:15:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: works cars book
There is an excellent book on the works big Healeys. It's titled, "The
Works Big Healeys" and subtitled "The international competition history of
the Austin-Healey 100-Six and 3000." Authored by Peter Browning and
copyrighted 1995, it was published by Haynes Publishing, Sparkford, Nr.
Yeovil, Somerset BA22 7JJ.
Peter Browning was the last Competitions Manager of BMC, and previously was
the General Secretary of the then factory-sponsored Austin-Healey Club,
worked on the BMC magazine "Safety Fast," and was later BMC Competitions
Press Officer. It would be hard to find anyone anywhere who is even near
his league for qualifications, and the book is thorough and well
illustrated.
Mind you, this book covers primarily the BMC factory team cars, and as such
coverage of the Donald Healey Motor Company-sponsored cars and
privately-owned cars is scant. However, it's an excellent book that I have
relied upon heavily for research for the 2000 and 2001 Austin-Healey
Calendars. Unfortunately it appears that the book MAY be out of print and I
see that we do not currently list it among the books sold by the club.
However, as a fairly recent book it may be relatively easy to find a used
copy, and if anyone locates a current source for them, please advise me.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
2 x BN2
2 x AN5
http://www.healey.org
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From Alex Hope <ahope at jaques.com.au>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:33:30 +1100
Subject: RE: works cars book
Boy we sure are spoiled here in Australia !
Three teenage experiences to recount
1 Making a point of taking a photograph of every 100-S that lived
in Melbourne. Can't remember how many it was but I had photos of 4 or 5
cars.
2 Visiting the home of a member that was doing some work on one of
the AH 4000 prototypes. Crawling under the car to see the evidence of
chassis/body widening job done by DMH & Co and the detailing in the
engine / gearbox and diff swap also done by DMH & Co
3 At the start of many club runs, asking 'Can I ride with you
please ?' of any unaccompanied driver. Usually the then owner of
UJB143.
Call me a bragger, but we sure are spoiled here in Australia !
Alex Hope
Melbourne
BN1
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ward Stebner [SMTP:liason@sk.sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 9:07 AM
> To: Keith Turk
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: works cars book
>
>
> > > On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:42:18 -0800, Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com
> (Freese,
> > > Ken) wrote:
> > >
> > > :: The book can't be done in America. There aren't any relevant
> cars here.
> > > :: American Healey enthusiasts wouldn't walk across the street to
> see a
> > > unusual
> > > :: Healey or a 100S. They can't relate their own restoration woes,
> > problems,
> > > or
> > > :: teenage experiences to them. Please prove me wrong. This is a
> much more
> > > :: relevant topic to start a flame war with!!!
> > > :: Ken Freese
> > > :: 65 BJ8
> > > :: ex 100S owner
>
> Ken, I have to make the score 3-747. I had my family in tow this past
> summer as we went to Banff, AB to see the closest thing that I have
> ever
> come to a works car and that was the two "Rally Prepared" cars that
> competed in the Around the World Rally. I think that many of the
> people
> on the list who helped with the Around the World Rally probably felt
> as
> I did (hopefully I am not speaking out of turn for the many Healey
> enthusiasts who helped Peter/ Ann /Rick and Stuart). While in Banff, I
> had the pleasure of meeting Mike and Susan Blair, who had driven from
> Montana to see the cars, and I'm sure that many people involved with
> the
> rally had similar experiences.
> The chances of actually seeing a works car here in central Canada
> are
> quite slim. I have been to two West Coast meets, one in Oregon and
> one
> in Washington and have seen nothing close to a works car yet. Are
> there
> any on the West Coast of the USA? If I drag my family to Lake Tahoe
> in
> 2002, will I see any there? I sure hope so!
> I have such an appreciation for the works cars that I am painting my
> BN2
> (contrary to popular demand, I'm not painting it it's original colour
> of
> Red over Black) Old English White over Lobelia Blue. Not as a 100S
> replica or anything like that, just because I like the history
> involved.
> Ken, I am not meaning to disagree with your comments about American
> Healey owners not crossing the street to see an uncommon Healey, but
> maybe there just hasn't been any around to see for a while.
> Ward Stebner
> Saskatoon, SK Canada
> !956 BN2 (Soon to be Old English White over Lobelia Blue)
From "dos_gusanos" <dos_gusanos at email.msn.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 20:09:17 -0700
Subject: Re: works cars book
I'm doing my best to build my own and check it out at:
http://www.zianet.com/mporter/rmvr_alb.html
Cheers Henry Morrison Albuquerque, NM
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
To: Freese, Ken <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>; 'Roland Wilhelmy' <rwil@cts.com>
Cc: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: works cars book
>
> Ken make it 2-750... I would love to see one...having owned a BN2 for over
> Twenty years... I think you know I have a Significant interest in anything
> Healey and most things Fast....
>
> Don't have Teen Dreams.... but I sure would love to have seen it....
>
> K
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Freese, Ken" <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
> To: "'Roland Wilhelmy'" <rwil@cts.com>; "Freese, Ken"
> <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
> Cc: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 6:21 PM
> Subject: RE: works cars book
>
>
> >
> > ok, the score is 1 to 750.
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roland Wilhelmy [mailto:rwil@cts.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 4:20 PM
> > To: Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com
> > Cc: Healeys@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: works cars book
> >
> >
> > Heck, Ken, I would drive 50 miles each way on any weekend to get an up
> > close look at a 100S or works car or such -- so long as I didn't have
> > to cut fences or break padlocks to get in :-) I would buy and read a
> > works cars book. I even saved your 100S list that you posted a few
> > years back.
> >
> > Yes, I had a BN2 as a teen, no I never owned a 100S, yes I try to do
> > most of my restoration work myself, and the reason I didn't buy your
> > 100S was because I don't have the money.
> >
> > -Roland
> > BJ7, BN1
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:42:18 -0800, Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com (Freese,
> > Ken) wrote:
> >
> > :: The book can't be done in America. There aren't any relevant cars
here.
> > :: American Healey enthusiasts wouldn't walk across the street to see a
> > unusual
> > :: Healey or a 100S. They can't relate their own restoration woes,
> problems,
> > or
> > :: teenage experiences to them. Please prove me wrong. This is a much
more
> > :: relevant topic to start a flame war with!!!
> > :: Ken Freese
> > :: 65 BJ8
> > :: ex 100S owner
From "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at slip.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:12:28 -0800
Subject: Re: BJ8 Exhaust options
I have an Ansa free-flow exhaust on my BJ8.
They're actually a larger bore (2", I think) than stock and the fit was nearly
perfect. The one
drawback is a higher-pitched note -- the car sounds as much like a Ferrari as a
Healey.
Bob
***********************************************************************
Bob Spidell bspidell@slip.net (home)
San Jose, CA. bspidell@teknema.com (work)
`67 Austin-Healey 3000 (mine) `56 100M (Dad's) PP/ASEL
***********************************************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Sailer" <sailer@srv.net>
To: "Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 6:36 AM
Subject: BJ8 Exhaust options
>
> Greetings all,
>
> I am preparing to pull my BJ8 off the road for the winter and have some
> project in line for the winter. Snow on the roads now but hoping to get a
> thaw to take a thanksgiving visitor for a ride....
>
> I want to install a better sounding exhaust on my BJ8, and enhance
> performance (if possible). The stock exhaust was awfully quite for a Healey
> so I removed the rear silencers and simply repaced them with pipe. I then
> had the same configuration. It is however pretty loud/obnoxious between
> 3500 RPM and 4500 RPM so I am looking for options and insight.......
>
> Stock System - Does this sytem have good flow characteristics and should I
> go back?
>
> Monza - Smaller bore than BJ8 system I hear (and none designed for BJ8... )
> resulting in much fitting I hear... Advantages to this system If I do the
> work...
>
> Others.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim Sailer
> 66 BJ8
From Healeyguy at aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 23:13:44 EST
Subject: Re: works cars book
In a message dated 11/14/00 2:46:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com writes:
> American Healey enthusiasts wouldn't walk across the street to see a unusual
>
OK Ken I'll bite. I'd walk across the street to look at a rust bucket Healey,
wait hours in a Harrisburg Pennsylvania parking lot to see Tom Kovacs unload
a 100S, burn three rolls of film on Goldie, drive a couple hundred miles in
Oregon to see an old Sebring racer, etc, etc. I guess I'm not an enthusiast,
just crazy.
With much Aloha
Perry
From "dos_gusanos" <dos_gusanos at email.msn.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:36:40 -0700
Subject: Fw: works cars book
----- Original Message -----
From: dos_gusanos <dos_gusanos@email.msn.com>
To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; Freese, Ken <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>;
'Roland Wilhelmy' <rwil@cts.com>
Cc: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: works cars book
> I'm doing my best to build my own and check it out at:
> http://www.zianet.com/mporter/rmvr_alb.html
> Cheers Henry Morrison Albuquerque, NM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
> To: Freese, Ken <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>; 'Roland Wilhelmy' <rwil@cts.com>
> Cc: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: works cars book
>
>
> >
> > Ken make it 2-750... I would love to see one...having owned a BN2 for
over
> > Twenty years... I think you know I have a Significant interest in
anything
> > Healey and most things Fast....
> >
> > Don't have Teen Dreams.... but I sure would love to have seen it....
> >
> > K
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Freese, Ken" <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
> > To: "'Roland Wilhelmy'" <rwil@cts.com>; "Freese, Ken"
> > <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
> > Cc: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 6:21 PM
> > Subject: RE: works cars book
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ok, the score is 1 to 750.
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Roland Wilhelmy [mailto:rwil@cts.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 4:20 PM
> > > To: Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com
> > > Cc: Healeys@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: works cars book
> > >
> > >
> > > Heck, Ken, I would drive 50 miles each way on any weekend to get an up
> > > close look at a 100S or works car or such -- so long as I didn't have
> > > to cut fences or break padlocks to get in :-) I would buy and read a
> > > works cars book. I even saved your 100S list that you posted a few
> > > years back.
> > >
> > > Yes, I had a BN2 as a teen, no I never owned a 100S, yes I try to do
> > > most of my restoration work myself, and the reason I didn't buy your
> > > 100S was because I don't have the money.
> > >
> > > -Roland
> > > BJ7, BN1
> > >
> > > On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:42:18 -0800, Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com (Freese,
> > > Ken) wrote:
> > >
> > > :: The book can't be done in America. There aren't any relevant cars
> here.
> > > :: American Healey enthusiasts wouldn't walk across the street to see
a
>
> > > unusual
> > > :: Healey or a 100S. They can't relate their own restoration woes,
> > problems,
> > > or
> > > :: teenage experiences to them. Please prove me wrong. This is a much
> more
> > > :: relevant topic to start a flame war with!!!
> > > :: Ken Freese
> > > :: 65 BJ8
> > > :: ex 100S owner
From "Joe Durant" <jdurant at stlnet.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 23:32:58 -0600
Subject: Re: UJB143
Oooooooo! Way Cool!!!
Joe D
(see.. that's why we hired you Gary! LOL)
----- Original Message -----
From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
To: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: UJB143
>
> In a message dated 11/14/00 1:38:44 AM, sebring@illawarra.hotkey.net.au
> writes:
>
> << For those interested One of the 'works' SMO cars is also for sale.
> If you were considering a trip to Australia make it New Year's Eve were
> the Americian LeMans Series is running as part of Don Panoz's world
> series. Location,Adelaide on the Formula One circuit.
> Joe >>
>
> It's not a job I'd like to take on, but wouldn't it be interesting if
someone
> did a registry or listing of all the Specials and Works Cars and where
they
> are now -- maybe even a nice photograph book of what they looked like then
> and what they look like now.
> Cheers
> gary
From DMMax at aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:25:05 EST
Subject: one more No Healey content: Think of election outside US
<< I have to second the
oppinion of Josef. Me and others around me are wondering what is going
on over there in the States. >>
Some of us Americans feel this Presidential Race "Fiasco" is a healthy thing
for our US. Democracy.
1> We have laws to guide us.
2> The political right here ( Republicans) is trying to stifle the vote by
taking advantage of, or possibly engineering aberrations in the voting
process, which is truly marred and antiquated.
Yet:
The American Populus seems to be seeing through this sham and is invigorated
about Democracy and 'The Vote' in ways it hasn't been in years. With a 50%
turn-out with our voters, we need a good wake-up call in this county. This
first call could have been far worst than this little stumble.
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:11:30 -0600
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
The operative word is listers. We don't need parts suppliers using the
digest to peddle their wares whether they be parts that have been lying
around or regular stock. All parts suppliers to my knowledge have catalogs
available either free or for a nominal charge which is usually refunded on
the first order. I believe a strong message should be issued to first
offenders with automatic unsubscription being the penalty for a second
offense. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>
To: "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>; <Editorgary@aol.com>
Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
> I agree with Ron and Gary. I have found this List to be very helpful with
> selling un-needed Austin Healey parts to someone who can use them, and for
> buying parts for my cars from someone who has what I need. I'm not a
> business, just an old guy who restores BN7 & BT7 cars.
>
> John Snyder
From "Joe Durant" <jdurant at stlnet.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 00:44:45 -0600
Subject: Re: works cars book
OK...
This is the #1 reason I'm planning on going to Tahoe! There'd Damn well
better be an "S" there!!! (2 or 3? :-)
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
To: "Freese, Ken" <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>; "'Roland Wilhelmy'"
<rwil@cts.com>
Cc: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: works cars book
>
> Ken make it 2-750... I would love to see one...having owned a BN2 for over
> Twenty years... I think you know I have a Significant interest in anything
> Healey and most things Fast....
>
> Don't have Teen Dreams.... but I sure would love to have seen it....
>
> K
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Freese, Ken" <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
> To: "'Roland Wilhelmy'" <rwil@cts.com>; "Freese, Ken"
> <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
> Cc: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 6:21 PM
> Subject: RE: works cars book
>
>
> >
> > ok, the score is 1 to 750.
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roland Wilhelmy [mailto:rwil@cts.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 4:20 PM
> > To: Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com
> > Cc: Healeys@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: works cars book
> >
> >
> > Heck, Ken, I would drive 50 miles each way on any weekend to get an up
> > close look at a 100S or works car or such -- so long as I didn't have
> > to cut fences or break padlocks to get in :-) I would buy and read a
> > works cars book. I even saved your 100S list that you posted a few
> > years back.
> >
> > Yes, I had a BN2 as a teen, no I never owned a 100S, yes I try to do
> > most of my restoration work myself, and the reason I didn't buy your
> > 100S was because I don't have the money.
> >
> > -Roland
> > BJ7, BN1
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:42:18 -0800, Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com (Freese,
> > Ken) wrote:
> >
> > :: The book can't be done in America. There aren't any relevant cars
here.
> > :: American Healey enthusiasts wouldn't walk across the street to see a
> > unusual
> > :: Healey or a 100S. They can't relate their own restoration woes,
> problems,
> > or
> > :: teenage experiences to them. Please prove me wrong. This is a much
more
> > :: relevant topic to start a flame war with!!!
> > :: Ken Freese
> > :: 65 BJ8
> > :: ex 100S owner
From "Joe Durant" <jdurant at stlnet.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:04:25 -0600
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
Conversely... I think that is Just Exactly what we need on the list! Don't
get me wrong. This Absolute is Not a venue for commercialism. However,
part of the reason I joined this list was to (hopefully) find some parts I
might need.
It appears to me that the parts that have been made available to us on the
list are from "enthusiasts". YES, some of them have commercial links and
even may own those businesses. But, as long as they are True enthusiasts
of the Marque (and we know who they are!).... I find that they are
providing us certainly a service... if not a favor!
Joe
BT7, BJ7
----- Original Message -----
From: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>
To: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>; "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>;
<Editorgary@aol.com>
Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
> The operative word is listers. We don't need parts suppliers using the
> digest to peddle their wares whether they be parts that have been lying
> around or regular stock. All parts suppliers to my knowledge have catalogs
> available either free or for a nominal charge which is usually refunded on
> the first order. I believe a strong message should be issued to first
> offenders with automatic unsubscription being the penalty for a second
> offense. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>
> To: "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>; <Editorgary@aol.com>
> Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:33 PM
> Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
>
> >
> > I agree with Ron and Gary. I have found this List to be very helpful
with
> > selling un-needed Austin Healey parts to someone who can use them, and
for
> > buying parts for my cars from someone who has what I need. I'm not a
> > business, just an old guy who restores BN7 & BT7 cars.
> >
> > John Snyder
From Jim Hill <Jim_Hill at chsra.wisc.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 02:11:42 -0600
Subject: List Etiquette
Gary Anderson wrote:
>I would like to suggest that if a Healey topic
>reminds you of a non-Healey issue you're interested
>in discussing, or an opinion you'd like to vent,
>first change the subject line to what it is you're
>going to discuss . . .
That would help, but it would also be a great boon if those who want to
argue about off-topic issues would just refrain from appending pages and
pages of previous posts to their notes.
Those of us who have retreated to the digest because of the large volume of
email cannot simply "hit the delete key" - we have to wade through all the
appended "dispute history" in order to find the next message that actually
has something to do with Healeys.
Just a thought . . .
Jim Hill
Madison WI
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:17:09 -0600
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
Thanks to your post all the parts suppliers will now be listing parts for
sale on the digest proclaiming their enthusiasm for the "Marque". I belonged
to a lapidary digest a few years ago and dealers were invited to
participate. The list was inundated with items for sale and the vendors
frequently began and pursued flame wars amongst and against each other. They
also began insisting that inferior products be discussed off digest and took
offense against anyone who expressed displeasure with their wares to the
listers. It wasn't fun. This toe in the water approach by parts suppliers
could escalate far beyond any so called un-Healey threads and should be
discouraged. I know some of you are saying we'll wait to see if it gets out
of hand then we'll act. I say if you need parts send for catalogs or visit
E-Bay. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Durant" <jdurant@stlnet.com>
To: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>; "John Snyder"
<johnahsn@olypen.com>; "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>;
<Editorgary@aol.com>
Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
> Conversely... I think that is Just Exactly what we need on the list!
Don't
> get me wrong. This Absolute is Not a venue for commercialism. However,
> part of the reason I joined this list was to (hopefully) find some parts
I
> might need.
>
> It appears to me that the parts that have been made available to us on the
> list are from "enthusiasts". YES, some of them have commercial links and
> even may own those businesses. But, as long as they are True enthusiasts
> of the Marque (and we know who they are!).... I find that they are
> providing us certainly a service... if not a favor!
>
> Joe
> BT7, BJ7
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>
> To: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>; "Ron Rader"
<rader@interworld.net>;
> <Editorgary@aol.com>
> Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
>
> >
> > The operative word is listers. We don't need parts suppliers using the
> > digest to peddle their wares whether they be parts that have been lying
> > around or regular stock. All parts suppliers to my knowledge have
catalogs
> > available either free or for a nominal charge which is usually refunded
on
> > the first order. I believe a strong message should be issued to first
> > offenders with automatic unsubscription being the penalty for a second
> > offense. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>
> > To: "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>; <Editorgary@aol.com>
> > Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I agree with Ron and Gary. I have found this List to be very helpful
> with
> > > selling un-needed Austin Healey parts to someone who can use them, and
> for
> > > buying parts for my cars from someone who has what I need. I'm not a
> > > business, just an old guy who restores BN7 & BT7 cars.
> > >
> > > John Snyder
From HealeyRic2 at aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 04:47:05 EST
Subject: Re: BJ8 Exhaust options
In a message dated 11/14/00 6:21:15 PM, david_m@radiantsoundworks.com writes:
<<I want to install a better sounding exhaust on my BJ8, and enhance
> performance (if possible). The stock exhaust was awfully quite for a
Healey>>
Jim,
The November issue of Austin Healey Magazine has an ad for a complete Abarth
system which gives extra inches of road clearance, better engine performance,
fuel economy and driving pleasure. Best of all, it's only $49.50. Send your
check (4 cents postage, I imagine) to Fisher Products, Long Island, NY.
(For non AHCUSA members, this ad is in the "Healey History" department. Were
parts ever this cheap? )
Rick
From J & L Armour <sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:22:09 +0000
Subject: DONALD HEALEY MOTOR CO
CONGRATULATIONS we are actually discussing serious Healey stuff.
Dont get me wrong I enjoy seeing owners buying, selling and comparing
experiences with others, all I seek is a higher content of information
[without curtailing others and their favourite topic] relative to the
amazing output of the Healey family and the extremely dedicated team
known as the Donald Healey Motor Co.
Factory is too strong a word to describe their physical and material
resources.It was best described as prototype and race development shop.
Remember the severe material and money shortages in UK post war. Roger
Menadue tells of riding a bicycle down to the scrap merchant to pick up
a sheet of aluminium.
Consider their achievements in the following areas;
prototypes
production cars
circuit racing
land speed records
1940's 100 mph production cars
132 mph limited production cars incl. 4 wheel disc. brakes in
1955
rallying
sensational body styling--Best looking car -New York motor
show.
speed boats
all this was achieved using other manufactures forgings and
castings which must have quite difficult to design around. This further
emphasises the skill of the team.
Healeys competed at Le Mans from 1949 to 1970
Donald attracted around him such people as;
Stirling Moss, Carroll Shelby,Steve McQueen,John Sprinzel,Bruce
McLaren and Paul Hawkins.
Most of this I have learnt, first from reading,then talking and
visiting with those more informed than me.Books and MAGAZINES are very
informative.
I STILL SEE,READ OR HEAR OF AT LEAST ONE 'WORKS' OR SIGNIFICANT
HEALEY FOR SALE EACH YEAR
REMEMBER I am based in far off Australia.In June of this year I was
privilidged to be a passenger in a works Sprite for 4 laps of LeMans,all
achieved through networking the Healey community.
There are still quite a number of works Healeys in USA
Back in 1970 in the middle of our 100.S craze club members advised me
there were no such things as 'works' alloy 3000 race cars, luckily I did
not believe that one!
REGARDS JOE
From HealeyRic2 at aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 05:16:49 EST
Subject: Re: works cars book
In a message dated 11/14/00 5:46:36 PM, Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com writes:
<<
The book can't be done in America. There aren't any relevant cars here.
American Healey enthusiasts wouldn't walk across the street to see a unusual
Healey or a 100S. They can't relate their own restoration woes, problems, or
teenage experiences to them. Please prove me wrong. This is a much more
relevant topic to start a flame war with!!!>>
Ken,
I think the Works cars are the "Ultimate Healeys" that embody the very
essence of
the marque. These are the cars that ably demonstrated the skills of Donald,
Geoffrey, and Roger in fielding modified production cars that competed with
some of Europe's best. The aura of LeMans, Sebring, and the Mille Miglia
cloaks every one these automobiles. I could look at these cars for days
(and have) just to see how the "thickos" at the Cape worked their magic. No
audience for another book? Seems to me the throngs that turned out for the
Team Healey Challenge in 1990 might be interested. I'd be happy to buy
another book on the competition cars to put on the
shelf with my treasured copy of "The Specials" , autographed by Geoffrey,
Donald and Bic.
Rick
From Josef.Eckert at t-mobil.de
Date: 15 Nov 2000 10:50:12 +0000
Subject: Gearbox-oil
Amongst my healey-friends there is an ongoing discussion about the most
suitable oil for the big Healey gearbox. Most of us use 30-grade Penrite or
Castrol Classic Oil for the gearbox. Is that the best choice?
It would be great to hear from listers pros, cons of other oil-grades,
prefered brands etc.
Thanks
Josef Eckert, Germany
54BN1
62BT7
65Sprite
59Dart
50Mogie (new in garage, growing family forced to buy)
From J & L Armour <sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:35:42 +0000
Subject: Works Healeys
FOR THOSE WITH AN INTEREST
The car is SMO744 used by Pat Moss/Anne Wisdom
Fully restored by Australia's Healey Factory almost unused condition
www.healeyfactory.com.au
e-mail healeyfactory@redcentre.com
contact Robbie Rowland
UJB143 was advertised in Aust.Brooklands Motors
ph. aust 03 95334666
fax 03 95334499
condition,older restoration,has been used on road and competition
UJB143 was originally 1960 Sebring car,then LeMans. This Sebring car
sold to David Dixon and a new registered no.[DD300] transferred to it,
then and now John Chatham. Number UJB143 transferred to a new rally
chassis for Midnight Sun Rally eventually coming to Aust.
Regards Joe
From "Malcolm Bruce" <malcolm at procurcorp.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:48:44 -0500
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
Ray,
Frankly, I would rather read messages from the commercial parts suppliers on
this list than many of the so called contributions from you and several
others, they are potentially useful.
Mal Bruce
BJ8
-----Original Message-----
From: ray feehan <feehanr@cadvision.com>
To: Joe Durant <jdurant@stlnet.com>; John Snyder <johnahsn@olypen.com>; Ron
Rader <rader@interworld.net>; Editorgary@aol.com <Editorgary@aol.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:38 AM
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
>Thanks to your post all the parts suppliers will now be listing parts for
>sale on the digest proclaiming their enthusiasm for the "Marque". I
belonged
>to a lapidary digest a few years ago and dealers were invited to
>participate. The list was inundated with items for sale and the vendors
>frequently began and pursued flame wars amongst and against each other.
They
>also began insisting that inferior products be discussed off digest and
took
>offense against anyone who expressed displeasure with their wares to the
>listers. It wasn't fun. This toe in the water approach by parts suppliers
>could escalate far beyond any so called un-Healey threads and should be
>discouraged. I know some of you are saying we'll wait to see if it gets out
>of hand then we'll act. I say if you need parts send for catalogs or visit
>E-Bay. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joe Durant" <jdurant@stlnet.com>
>To: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>; "John Snyder"
><johnahsn@olypen.com>; "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>;
><Editorgary@aol.com>
>Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 1:04 AM
>Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
>
>>
>> Conversely... I think that is Just Exactly what we need on the list!
>Don't
>> get me wrong. This Absolute is Not a venue for commercialism.
However,
>> part of the reason I joined this list was to (hopefully) find some parts
>I
>> might need.
>>
>> It appears to me that the parts that have been made available to us on
the
>> list are from "enthusiasts". YES, some of them have commercial links
and
>> even may own those businesses. But, as long as they are True
enthusiasts
>> of the Marque (and we know who they are!).... I find that they are
>> providing us certainly a service... if not a favor!
>>
>> Joe
>> BT7, BJ7
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>
>> To: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>; "Ron Rader"
><rader@interworld.net>;
>> <Editorgary@aol.com>
>> Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>>
>>
>> >
>> > The operative word is listers. We don't need parts suppliers using the
>> > digest to peddle their wares whether they be parts that have been lying
>> > around or regular stock. All parts suppliers to my knowledge have
>catalogs
>> > available either free or for a nominal charge which is usually refunded
>on
>> > the first order. I believe a strong message should be issued to first
>> > offenders with automatic unsubscription being the penalty for a second
>> > offense. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>
>> > To: "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>; <Editorgary@aol.com>
>> > Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:33 PM
>> > Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > I agree with Ron and Gary. I have found this List to be very helpful
>> with
>> > > selling un-needed Austin Healey parts to someone who can use them,
and
>> for
>> > > buying parts for my cars from someone who has what I need. I'm not a
>> > > business, just an old guy who restores BN7 & BT7 cars.
>> > >
>> > > John Snyder
From "Don Yarber" <dyarber at dynasty.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:08:09 -0600
Subject: NO HEALEY CONTENT; Regards the election
PRESIDENTIAL .ELECTION NOT THE ONLY PROBLEM
NEW YORK (AP) --The New York Mets announced today that they are going to
court to get an additional inning
added to the end of Game 5 of the
World series.
The batting, pitching, and bench coaches for the Mets held a press
conference earlier today. They were joined by members of the Major
League layers Union.
"We meant to hit those pitches from the Yankee pitchers," said the Mets
batting coach. "We were confused by the irregularities of the pitches
we received and believe we have been denied our right to hit."
One claim specifically noted that a small percentage of the Mets batters
had intended to swing at fast balls, but actually swung at curve balls.
It was clear that these batters never intended to swing at curve balls,
though a much higher percentage were not confused by the pitches.
Reporters at the press conference pointed out that the Mets had
extensively reviewed film of the Yankees pitchers prior to the World
Series and had in fact faced the Yankees in inter-league play earlier in
the
year.
"The fact remains that some of the pitches confused us and denied us our
right to hit," said the Mets batting coach. "The World Series is not
over yet and the Yankees are celebrating prematurely."
Major League Baseball has reviewed the telecast of all the World Series
games and recounted the balls and strikes called by the umpires of each
game.
"While some of the strikes called against the Mets were, in fact, balls,
there were not enough of them to change the outcome of the World
Series," the commissioner said.
Another portion of the Mets legal claim stated that, based on on-base
percentage, the Mets had actually won the World Series, regardless of
the final scores of the games. "It's clear that we were slightly on-base
more often than the Yankees," said a Mets spokesman. "The World Series
crown is rightly ours."
The manager of the Mets has remained in relative seclusion, engaging in
some light jogging for exercise. He has stated that he believes "we need
to let the process run its course without a rush to judgment."
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The
Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the
difference.
From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 06:14:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:04:25 -0600, Joe Durant wrote:
>> Conversely... I think that is Just Exactly what we need on the list!
Don't get me wrong. This Absolute is Not a venue for commercialism.
However, part of the reason I joined this list was to (hopefully) find some
parts I might need. <<
I agree! And just to demonstrate the depth of my support for this
principle, I'd just like to mention that there are still a few reproduction
BJ8 jack handles available at the unbelievable close-out price of just $12,
postpaid!
Call now, operators are standing by. Have your VISA or MasterCard ready!
This is a limited time offer and may not be repeated! Avoid disappointment
and reserve yours now!
And remember, jack handles make great gifts! Christmas is coming! Think of
the fun you'll have when your loved one finds one of these under the tree!
Children love them! Imagine their delight! Get one now for that special
someone in your life!
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
2 x BN2
2 x AN5
http://www.healey.org
http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
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From jclose at sduhsd.k12.ca.us
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:41:07 -0800
Subject: Malfunctioning Fuel Gauge
Hello Listers - Fuel gauge on my BN6 reads 'full' ,or close to it, regardless of
how much gas is in the tank. Gauge is recently restored. Sender is new. Wiring
is correct. Negative ground. Where to start? Suggestions, please? Thank you -
JohnC
From Kit Henry <khenry at hmcltd.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:39:51 -0500
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
LOL LOL
Yeah this was great.
You forgot: May be restricted in some areas, not responsible for the miss use
and abuse of this item.
Mature Audiences only
Not for use by children under three years of age, a substitute floor jack handle
is available if asked for.
Kit Henry
Reid Trummel wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:04:25 -0600, Joe Durant wrote:
>
> >> Conversely... I think that is Just Exactly what we need on the list!
> Don't get me wrong. This Absolute is Not a venue for commercialism.
> However, part of the reason I joined this list was to (hopefully) find some
> parts I might need. <<
>
> I agree! And just to demonstrate the depth of my support for this
> principle, I'd just like to mention that there are still a few reproduction
> BJ8 jack handles available at the unbelievable close-out price of just $12,
> postpaid!
>
> Call now, operators are standing by. Have your VISA or MasterCard ready!
> This is a limited time offer and may not be repeated! Avoid disappointment
> and reserve yours now!
>
> And remember, jack handles make great gifts! Christmas is coming! Think of
> the fun you'll have when your loved one finds one of these under the tree!
> Children love them! Imagine their delight! Get one now for that special
> someone in your life!
>
> Cheers,
> Reid Trummel
> Tampa, Florida
> 2 x BN2
> 2 x AN5
> http://www.healey.org
> http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
>
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http://www.henrymotorsports.com
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From Josef.Eckert at t-mobil.de
Date: 15 Nov 2000 14:49:55 +0000
Subject: Jack handles
Reid,
Reserve me twenty of the Jack handles. Pay in cash at Lake Tahoe 2002.
Cheers,
Josef Eckert, Germany
From "Dave BOWERS" <BOWERSDA at uvsc.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:54:44 -0700
Subject: Re: one more No Healey content: A little long winded
I'm sorry to differ on some points you made:
>>Some of us Americans feel this Presidential Race "Fiasco" is a healthy
>>>thing for our US. Democracy.
The U.S. was never intended to be a Democracy. It was set up as a
CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC where the individual had rights such as
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.. Democracy is rule by the mob
with no regard to individual rights. You 'could' read that as
socialism/communism. It's not what I or any of my peers fought for.
>>1> We have laws to guide us.
Right on.
>>2> The political right here ( Republicans) is trying to stifle the vote by
>>taking advantage of, or possibly engineering aberrations in the voting
>>process, which is truly marred and antiquated.
Hold on there. The Democrats threaten lawsuits if Gore doesn't win in Florida
while the Republicans have filed to stop the hand recount ONLY
where they are going past the time frame allowed by the laws of Florida.
Both parties are then threatening lawsuits and further recounts depending
on the Florida outcome. At least thats what I've seen on the news and
I don't like the bickering anymore than anyone else.
One further note on taking advantages of/engineering abberations in the
voting process - when people are involved in anything the chance of
human error is tremendous, especially where strong emotions are involved.
If the process needs changed, fine, just don't do it in the middle of the
process where it will only confuse the issue and create a worse mess.
The time to change the process is after an election is completed and time
can be spend to design and test a new system before it's implemented.
>>Yet:
>>The American Populus seems to be seeing through this sham and is
>>>invigorated about Democracy and 'The Vote' in ways it hasn't been in
>>years. With a 50% turn-out with our voters, we need a good wake-up >>call
>in this county. This first call could have been far worst than this little
>>stumble.
Again the misconception about Democracy and grouping the 'American
Populus' into a single group of Liberals. I used to consider myself liberal,
until I began studying the platforms. I may find myself labeled an ultra
conservative as I believe that people need the Constitutional right to
keep and bear arms to protect themselves not only from the common
criminal but from the possiblity of a government gone awry. I also can't
help but shudder at the thought of murdering an unborn child just because
someone made a wrong life choice by getting pregnant (rape and related
situations are different stories). And finally, if someone chooses an
alternative life style - that's their choice, but don't try to force the
perversion
into an acceptable mainstream lifestyle. I fully support their right to make
that choice, but, don't try to force me to find it an acceptable role to teach
children.
Flame away if you will...
But GOD Bless America and damn the torpedoes - er - flames.
Dave B^)
From "JISah102" <ah102 at home.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:55:55 -0500
Subject: SELLING ON THE LIST and WORKS CAR BOOK
Here in the US, votes count (usually). Therefore I vote YES for Gary's new
Works Car Book, and YES for selling on the list in accord with Joe Durant's
note.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Durant <jdurant@stlnet.com>
To: ray feehan <feehanr@cadvision.com>; John Snyder <johnahsn@olypen.com>;
Ron Rader <rader@interworld.net>; <Editorgary@aol.com>
Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
> Conversely... I think that is Just Exactly what we need on the list!
Don't
> get me wrong. This Absolute is Not a venue for commercialism. However,
> part of the reason I joined this list was to (hopefully) find some parts
I
> might need.
>
> It appears to me that the parts that have been made available to us on the
> list are from "enthusiasts". YES, some of them have commercial links and
> even may own those businesses. But, as long as they are True enthusiasts
> of the Marque (and we know who they are!).... I find that they are
> providing us certainly a service... if not a favor!
>
> Joe
> BT7, BJ7
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>
> To: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>; "Ron Rader"
<rader@interworld.net>;
> <Editorgary@aol.com>
> Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
>
> >
> > The operative word is listers. We don't need parts suppliers using the
> > digest to peddle their wares whether they be parts that have been lying
> > around or regular stock. All parts suppliers to my knowledge have
catalogs
> > available either free or for a nominal charge which is usually refunded
on
> > the first order. I believe a strong message should be issued to first
> > offenders with automatic unsubscription being the penalty for a second
> > offense. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>
> > To: "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>; <Editorgary@aol.com>
> > Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I agree with Ron and Gary. I have found this List to be very helpful
> with
> > > selling un-needed Austin Healey parts to someone who can use them, and
> for
> > > buying parts for my cars from someone who has what I need. I'm not a
> > > business, just an old guy who restores BN7 & BT7 cars.
> > >
> > > John Snyder
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:12:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Malfunctioning Fuel Gauge
Hi John,
To test the gauge : turn on the ignition and then disconnect the wire at the
sender.
The gauge should go to to the "Full" position. Touch the wire that goes to the
sender to ground and the gauge should go to "Empty".
If these tests are correct the fault is in the sender if not repeat the tests
using
the "T" terminal of the gauge and a jumper wire. If now OK the fault is in the
wiring to the gauge.
If not OK the fault is in the gauge or the power supply to the gauge.
Looking at the back of the gauge with the terminals at the top; the left
terminal is
the "T" (Tank) terminal.
Hope this helps.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us wrote:
> Hello Listers - Fuel gauge on my BN6 reads 'full' ,or close to it, regardless
>of
> how much gas is in the tank. Gauge is recently restored. Sender is new. Wiring
> is correct. Negative ground. Where to start? Suggestions, please? Thank you -
> JohnC
From "Dave BOWERS" <BOWERSDA at uvsc.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:12:06 -0700
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>>Call now, operators are standing by. Have your VISA or MasterCard >>ready!
>This is a limited time offer and may not be repeated! Avoid >>disappointment
>and reserve yours now!
>>And remember, jack handles make great gifts! Christmas is coming! >>Think
>of the fun you'll have when your loved one finds one of these >>under the
>tree! Children love them! Imagine their delight! Get one now >>for that
>special someone in your life!
>>Reid Trummel
Now that's what I like undiluted fun...
I too like seeing the enthusiasts like Jonathan, Norm, Dick, Reid, Bill,
Michael, Rich, and all our other friends helping us find parts for our
mania by offering us 'deals' as they come by them. And yes, I am considering a
Texas Kooler and a Smitty's but I'm not to that point yet.
Dave B^)
56 BN2
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From "Dave BOWERS" <BOWERSDA at uvsc.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:15:57 -0700
Subject: Re: NO HEALEY CONTENT; Regards the election
Love it...
>>> "Don Yarber" <dyarber@dynasty.net> 11/15/00 7:08:09 AM >>>
>> PRESIDENTIAL .ELECTION NOT THE ONLY PROBLEM
>>NEW YORK (AP) --The New York Mets announced today that they are >>going to
>court to get an additional inning added to the end of Game 5 of
>>the World series.
<<SNIP>>
>>"we need to let the process run its course without a rush to judgment."
>>God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The
>>Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the
>>difference.
From dyaarl anderson <dyaarl at mediaone.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:18:08 -0500
Subject: SPECIAL GIFT FOR SPECIAL CAR
those of you looking for a more personal gift than a jack handle for
that special someone, I have a beautiful Chrome and Yellow automobile
association grill badge from new zealand -era 1950's- only $47.50
including shipping. You can surprise that special love one with a one of
a kind gift that will make them the envy of all with a grill bar. Don't
delay contact me off list so it will arrive before christmas. the badge
will give your healey that added charm that draws women and children to
them. picture on request. i am not a business, only a bn4 owner that
needs the money.
Cheers Dyaarl
bn 4
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From Wesp11 at aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:27:35 EST
Subject: BJ7 Radiator help needed!!!!!!
Hello Listers, I need a good used radiator for a 63 BJ7, can anyone out there
help me, or does anyone know of an aftermarket one that is similar in
dimensions that I could use just to get the car going for a while, thanks for
your concideration, also I need a passenger wing window frrame?, any info is
greatly appreciated
Hugh
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:33:42 -0800
Subject: RE: SELLING ON THE LIST
God, I hate to admit it but in a way I actually agree with Ray. I hope it
doesn't become a habit.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, in the months that I have been on the
list I have not tried to use the list or my affiliation with it to sell
parts. I sent out my recent weird stuff sale posting simply because these
items were going out at exceptional discounts and are not going to be
restocked. I don't want to use the list to sell oil filters.
I think that most of us are aware of the various parts suppliers out there.
If not then look in Hemmings to find them. As a normal list guy I would
hate to be barraged by sales propaganda from a supplier who already sends me
stuff in the mail. It's not hard to figure out who on the list is actually
in the business and if someone chooses to do business with them, great.
I've had people from the list call me and order parts and I appreciate their
business. If we have something unusual come in stock, I will alert people
but the list is not the place for general advertising.
Jonathan Lane
Retail Sales
Moss Motors, Ltd.
(800) 235-6954 x3240
(805) 692-2525 - Fax
lanej@mossmotors.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Malcolm Bruce [mailto:malcolm@procurcorp.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 5:49 AM
To: ray feehan; Joe Durant; John Snyder; Ron Rader; Editorgary@aol.com
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
Ray,
Frankly, I would rather read messages from the commercial parts suppliers on
this list than many of the so called contributions from you and several
others, they are potentially useful.
Mal Bruce
BJ8
-----Original Message-----
From: ray feehan <feehanr@cadvision.com>
To: Joe Durant <jdurant@stlnet.com>; John Snyder <johnahsn@olypen.com>; Ron
Rader <rader@interworld.net>; Editorgary@aol.com <Editorgary@aol.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:38 AM
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
>Thanks to your post all the parts suppliers will now be listing parts for
>sale on the digest proclaiming their enthusiasm for the "Marque". I
belonged
>to a lapidary digest a few years ago and dealers were invited to
>participate. The list was inundated with items for sale and the vendors
>frequently began and pursued flame wars amongst and against each other.
They
>also began insisting that inferior products be discussed off digest and
took
>offense against anyone who expressed displeasure with their wares to the
>listers. It wasn't fun. This toe in the water approach by parts suppliers
>could escalate far beyond any so called un-Healey threads and should be
>discouraged. I know some of you are saying we'll wait to see if it gets out
>of hand then we'll act. I say if you need parts send for catalogs or visit
>E-Bay. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joe Durant" <jdurant@stlnet.com>
>To: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>; "John Snyder"
><johnahsn@olypen.com>; "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>;
><Editorgary@aol.com>
>Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 1:04 AM
>Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
>
>>
>> Conversely... I think that is Just Exactly what we need on the list!
>Don't
>> get me wrong. This Absolute is Not a venue for commercialism.
However,
>> part of the reason I joined this list was to (hopefully) find some parts
>I
>> might need.
>>
>> It appears to me that the parts that have been made available to us on
the
>> list are from "enthusiasts". YES, some of them have commercial links
and
>> even may own those businesses. But, as long as they are True
enthusiasts
>> of the Marque (and we know who they are!).... I find that they are
>> providing us certainly a service... if not a favor!
>>
>> Joe
>> BT7, BJ7
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>
>> To: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>; "Ron Rader"
><rader@interworld.net>;
>> <Editorgary@aol.com>
>> Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>>
>>
>> >
>> > The operative word is listers. We don't need parts suppliers using the
>> > digest to peddle their wares whether they be parts that have been lying
>> > around or regular stock. All parts suppliers to my knowledge have
>catalogs
>> > available either free or for a nominal charge which is usually refunded
>on
>> > the first order. I believe a strong message should be issued to first
>> > offenders with automatic unsubscription being the penalty for a second
>> > offense. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>
>> > To: "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>; <Editorgary@aol.com>
>> > Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:33 PM
>> > Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > I agree with Ron and Gary. I have found this List to be very helpful
>> with
>> > > selling un-needed Austin Healey parts to someone who can use them,
and
>> for
>> > > buying parts for my cars from someone who has what I need. I'm not a
>> > > business, just an old guy who restores BN7 & BT7 cars.
>> > >
>> > > John Snyder
From GNpaper at aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:36:18 EST
Subject: Re: BJ8 Exhaust options
I purchased my BJ8 exhaust from Denis Welch from the UK. A little pricey but
the headers, mufflers and pipes fit pretty well. Everything came shipped from
England to Wisconsin taped together, and to my amazement arrived undamaged.
The sound is excellent, quintessential Healey. Everybody comments on the
sound.
I think it was worth it.
Dan Brooks
67' BJ8
From "kirk kvam" <62BT7 at prodigy.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:56:05 -0800
Subject: Re: NO HEALEY CONTENT; Regards the election
Don ,
You forgot to mention all the years the
players (voters) had to practice, hitting
those balls (punching those ballots).
Though it does seem unfair to the ball
players that the voters have more years
experience by way of longevity and Bingo.
Just try to hit 15 balls at one time like Bingo
players monitor 15 cards.
Kirk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Yarber" <dyarber@dynasty.net>
To: "Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 6:08 AM
Subject: NO HEALEY CONTENT; Regards the election
>
> PRESIDENTIAL .ELECTION NOT THE ONLY PROBLEM
>
>
> NEW YORK (AP) --The New York Mets announced today that they are going to
> court to get an additional inning
> added to the end of Game 5 of the
> World series.
>
> The batting, pitching, and bench coaches for the Mets held a press
> conference earlier today. They were joined by members of the Major
> League layers Union.
>
> "We meant to hit those pitches from the Yankee pitchers," said the Mets
> batting coach. "We were confused by the irregularities of the pitches
> we received and believe we have been denied our right to hit."
>
> One claim specifically noted that a small percentage of the Mets batters
>
> had intended to swing at fast balls, but actually swung at curve balls.
> It was clear that these batters never intended to swing at curve balls,
> though a much higher percentage were not confused by the pitches.
>
> Reporters at the press conference pointed out that the Mets had
> extensively reviewed film of the Yankees pitchers prior to the World
> Series and had in fact faced the Yankees in inter-league play earlier in
> the
> year.
>
> "The fact remains that some of the pitches confused us and denied us our
>
> right to hit," said the Mets batting coach. "The World Series is not
> over yet and the Yankees are celebrating prematurely."
>
> Major League Baseball has reviewed the telecast of all the World Series
> games and recounted the balls and strikes called by the umpires of each
> game.
>
> "While some of the strikes called against the Mets were, in fact, balls,
>
> there were not enough of them to change the outcome of the World
> Series," the commissioner said.
>
> Another portion of the Mets legal claim stated that, based on on-base
> percentage, the Mets had actually won the World Series, regardless of
> the final scores of the games. "It's clear that we were slightly on-base
>
> more often than the Yankees," said a Mets spokesman. "The World Series
> crown is rightly ours."
>
> The manager of the Mets has remained in relative seclusion, engaging in
> some light jogging for exercise. He has stated that he believes "we need
>
> to let the process run its course without a rush to judgment."
>
>
>
>
>
> God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The
> Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the
> difference.
From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:25:04 -0800
Subject: RE: works cars book
Reid,
I thought that book was dull as dirt. The title should have said "Rally" in
it. A big disappointment when I read it.
Ken Freese
-----Original Message-----
From: Reid Trummel [mailto:AHCUSA@excite.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 6:15 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: works cars book
There is an excellent book on the works big Healeys. It's titled, "The
Works Big Healeys" and subtitled "The international competition history of
the Austin-Healey 100-Six and 3000." Authored by Peter Browning and
copyrighted 1995, it was published by Haynes Publishing, Sparkford, Nr.
Yeovil, Somerset BA22 7JJ.
Peter Browning was the last Competitions Manager of BMC, and previously was
the General Secretary of the then factory-sponsored Austin-Healey Club,
worked on the BMC magazine "Safety Fast," and was later BMC Competitions
Press Officer. It would be hard to find anyone anywhere who is even near
his league for qualifications, and the book is thorough and well
illustrated.
Mind you, this book covers primarily the BMC factory team cars, and as such
coverage of the Donald Healey Motor Company-sponsored cars and
privately-owned cars is scant. However, it's an excellent book that I have
relied upon heavily for research for the 2000 and 2001 Austin-Healey
Calendars. Unfortunately it appears that the book MAY be out of print and I
see that we do not currently list it among the books sold by the club.
However, as a fairly recent book it may be relatively easy to find a used
copy, and if anyone locates a current source for them, please advise me.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
2 x BN2
2 x AN5
http://www.healey.org
http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
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From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:38:18 EST
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
In a message dated 11/15/2000 1:02:53 AM Central Standard Time,
jdurant@stlnet.com writes:
> <<This Absolute is Not a venue for commercialism. >>
>
> Guys, as a Enthusiast AND a Vendor I was asked to read the following from
> the SOL (autox.team.net):
>
> "ITEM 3. Beyond casual comments within ongoing discussions or occasional
> mention external services, if a company wants to do business on the net,
> they should not use these lists, but find other means to do so. Many
> readers do not want to see commercial advertisements on the mailing lists,
> and will react negativly to such "electronic junk mail".
> Republishing or using postings from a list or archive for commercial
> purposes without permission of the author(s) may be a violation of various
> copyrights, and is generally frowned upon. Most authors are happy to
> provide permission to have specific postings published as long as they are
> asked."
> provide and get valuable
> and useful services on the network, without adversely impacting or
> affecting operation the mailing lists. Some can be done from any E-mail
> system, while more advanced services require more advanced computer
> resources.
__________________________________________________________________
Some examples:
>
> Send direct E-Mail to someone you think may be interested in your product
> or service. Maintain your own electronic distribution list (one-way) for
>
I don't have any problem following that, nor should I. It is a
"condition of use".
When I have something of potential "Full List" interest, I ask the Majordomo
for permission. Mark either says yes or no. Simple.
Cheers..................
Ed
'63 BJ-7 (Hortense THE Healey)
Founding Member & Delegate, ILLINI Chapter - AHCA (20+ years)
Member, AHCUSA
Ed Kaler, Proprietor
" Just Brits "
Hinsdale, IL
www.justbrits.com
From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:43:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: RE: works cars book
Ken,
I don't disagree that it is a dry read at times. It is not an exciting
book, but it is well done and thorough; carefully documented with lots of
detail and good photos.
Also bear in mind that it covers the *BMC* Factory Team history. That's why
it covers primarily the rally stuff. It was the Donald Healey Motor Company
that ventured into Le Mans and Sebring and the Mille Miglia et al., not the
*BMC* Factory Team. In the world of motorsports, big Healeys were not, as
far as the factory (BMC) was concerned, rally cars, not race cars. Donald
Healey sponsored some racing, and some privateers raced them, but BMC
rallied them. And history has shown, rather decisively, where they did
best.
Cheers,
Reid
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:25:04 -0800, Freese, Ken wrote:
> Reid,
> I thought that book was dull as dirt. The title should have said "Rally"
in
> it. A big disappointment when I read it.
> Ken Freese
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reid Trummel [mailto:AHCUSA@excite.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 6:15 PM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: works cars book
>
>
>
> There is an excellent book on the works big Healeys. It's titled, "The
> Works Big Healeys" and subtitled "The international competition history
of
> the Austin-Healey 100-Six and 3000." Authored by Peter Browning and
> copyrighted 1995, it was published by Haynes Publishing, Sparkford, Nr.
> Yeovil, Somerset BA22 7JJ.
>
> Peter Browning was the last Competitions Manager of BMC, and previously
was
> the General Secretary of the then factory-sponsored Austin-Healey Club,
> worked on the BMC magazine "Safety Fast," and was later BMC Competitions
> Press Officer. It would be hard to find anyone anywhere who is even near
> his league for qualifications, and the book is thorough and well
> illustrated.
>
> Mind you, this book covers primarily the BMC factory team cars, and as
such
> coverage of the Donald Healey Motor Company-sponsored cars and
> privately-owned cars is scant. However, it's an excellent book that I
have
> relied upon heavily for research for the 2000 and 2001 Austin-Healey
> Calendars. Unfortunately it appears that the book MAY be out of print
and I
> see that we do not currently list it among the books sold by the club.
> However, as a fairly recent book it may be relatively easy to find a used
> copy, and if anyone locates a current source for them, please advise me.
> Thank you.
>
> Cheers,
> Reid Trummel
> Tampa, Florida
> 2 x BN2
> 2 x AN5
> http://www.healey.org
> http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
>
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From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:46:42 -0800
Subject: 100S visitors
I owned a 100S for 20 years both in Southern California and Northern
California. It was in a restored condition for 5 years. Knowledge that I
had it was no secret. I wrote a couple of club articles, had a major
magazine (European Car) feature the car, Road & Track and Automobile carried
pictures in their editorial content, showed it at major multi-marque
concours (only one Healey event unfortunately because I don't have a
trailer), and drove it to some local club events. I think I had 10 phone
calls from people wanting to see the car and half of these were from
overseas visitors. Some were from non Healey people. So my opinion is that
California Healey folk aren't interested sufficiently to overcome their
shyness and invite themselves over for a look at an unusual Austin-Healey.
Or it was my breath.
Anyway, that is history. I just hope I can get a chance to do another
interesting Healey special project someday.
Ken
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:00:04 EST
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST and WORKS CAR BOOK
In a message dated 11/15/00 6:59:02 AM, ah102@home.com writes:
<<
Here in the US, votes count (usually). Therefore I vote YES for Gary's new
Works Car Book, and YES for selling on the list in accord with Joe Durant's
note.
Jim >>
I hereby declare, based on the constitutional rights granted me (few, if any)
that
the election is over and Pat Quinn has been selected as the right person to
organize
and perhaps even publish a book on the Works Healeys as they now exist.
Cheers
Gary Anderson
From Ron Rader <rader at interworld.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:18:40 -0800
Subject: whinig ON THE LIST
Malcolm:
You really hit it on the head.
Ray should be on a cheese list so that he would have something to go with his
righteous whining.
Ron Rader
Malcolm Bruce wrote:
> Ray,
> Frankly, I would rather read messages from the commercial parts suppliers on
> this list than many of the so called contributions from you and several
> others, they are potentially useful.
>
> Mal Bruce
> BJ8
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ray feehan <feehanr@cadvision.com>
> To: Joe Durant <jdurant@stlnet.com>; John Snyder <johnahsn@olypen.com>; Ron
> Rader <rader@interworld.net>; Editorgary@aol.com <Editorgary@aol.com>
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:38 AM
> Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
> >
> >Thanks to your post all the parts suppliers will now be listing parts for
> >sale on the digest proclaiming their enthusiasm for the "Marque". I
> belonged
> >to a lapidary digest a few years ago and dealers were invited to
> >participate. The list was inundated with items for sale and the vendors
> >frequently began and pursued flame wars amongst and against each other.
> They
> >also began insisting that inferior products be discussed off digest and
> took
> >offense against anyone who expressed displeasure with their wares to the
> >listers. It wasn't fun. This toe in the water approach by parts suppliers
> >could escalate far beyond any so called un-Healey threads and should be
> >discouraged. I know some of you are saying we'll wait to see if it gets out
> >of hand then we'll act. I say if you need parts send for catalogs or visit
> >E-Bay. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Joe Durant" <jdurant@stlnet.com>
> >To: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>; "John Snyder"
> ><johnahsn@olypen.com>; "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>;
> ><Editorgary@aol.com>
> >Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 1:04 AM
> >Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Conversely... I think that is Just Exactly what we need on the list!
> >Don't
> >> get me wrong. This Absolute is Not a venue for commercialism.
> However,
> >> part of the reason I joined this list was to (hopefully) find some parts
> >I
> >> might need.
> >>
> >> It appears to me that the parts that have been made available to us on
> the
> >> list are from "enthusiasts". YES, some of them have commercial links
> and
> >> even may own those businesses. But, as long as they are True
> enthusiasts
> >> of the Marque (and we know who they are!).... I find that they are
> >> providing us certainly a service... if not a favor!
> >>
> >> Joe
> >> BT7, BJ7
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>
> >> To: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>; "Ron Rader"
> ><rader@interworld.net>;
> >> <Editorgary@aol.com>
> >> Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> >> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:11 PM
> >> Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > The operative word is listers. We don't need parts suppliers using the
> >> > digest to peddle their wares whether they be parts that have been lying
> >> > around or regular stock. All parts suppliers to my knowledge have
> >catalogs
> >> > available either free or for a nominal charge which is usually refunded
> >on
> >> > the first order. I believe a strong message should be issued to first
> >> > offenders with automatic unsubscription being the penalty for a second
> >> > offense. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>
> >> > To: "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>; <Editorgary@aol.com>
> >> > Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> >> > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:33 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > I agree with Ron and Gary. I have found this List to be very helpful
> >> with
> >> > > selling un-needed Austin Healey parts to someone who can use them,
> and
> >> for
> >> > > buying parts for my cars from someone who has what I need. I'm not a
> >> > > business, just an old guy who restores BN7 & BT7 cars.
> >> > >
> >> > > John Snyder
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From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:20:09 -0600
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
Jonathan
Your approach IMHO to date has been ideal, as has Jerry Wall's for NTAHC's Texas
kooler, Dick Brill's halogen bulbs, and the very classy way that Ed
"Justbrits", Michael Salter, Steve Jowett and David Nock let one know what is
available from their establishments - basically Healey guys helping Healey guys.
A good consumer compares, and evaluates product; and assess service before
purchasing - the above have provided information and availability, in part the
list has provided evaluation, and we left to pursue items or services until
we're ready to purchase.
Kind regards
Ed
Saskatoon
'65 BJ8
"Lane, Jonathan" wrote:
> God, I hate to admit it but in a way I actually agree with Ray. I hope it
> doesn't become a habit.
>
> As I mentioned in an earlier post, in the months that I have been on the
> list I have not tried to use the list or my affiliation with it to sell
> parts. I sent out my recent weird stuff sale posting simply because these
> items were going out at exceptional discounts and are not going to be
> restocked. I don't want to use the list to sell oil filters.
>
> I think that most of us are aware of the various parts suppliers out there.
> If not then look in Hemmings to find them. As a normal list guy I would
> hate to be barraged by sales propaganda from a supplier who already sends me
> stuff in the mail. It's not hard to figure out who on the list is actually
> in the business and if someone chooses to do business with them, great.
> I've had people from the list call me and order parts and I appreciate their
> business. If we have something unusual come in stock, I will alert people
> but the list is not the place for general advertising.
>
> Jonathan Lane
> Retail Sales
> Moss Motors, Ltd.
> (800) 235-6954 x3240
> (805) 692-2525 - Fax
> lanej@mossmotors.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Malcolm Bruce [mailto:malcolm@procurcorp.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 5:49 AM
> To: ray feehan; Joe Durant; John Snyder; Ron Rader; Editorgary@aol.com
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
> Ray,
> Frankly, I would rather read messages from the commercial parts suppliers on
> this list than many of the so called contributions from you and several
> others, they are potentially useful.
>
> Mal Bruce
> BJ8
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ray feehan <feehanr@cadvision.com>
> To: Joe Durant <jdurant@stlnet.com>; John Snyder <johnahsn@olypen.com>; Ron
> Rader <rader@interworld.net>; Editorgary@aol.com <Editorgary@aol.com>
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:38 AM
> Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
> >
> >Thanks to your post all the parts suppliers will now be listing parts for
> >sale on the digest proclaiming their enthusiasm for the "Marque". I
> belonged
> >to a lapidary digest a few years ago and dealers were invited to
> >participate. The list was inundated with items for sale and the vendors
> >frequently began and pursued flame wars amongst and against each other.
> They
> >also began insisting that inferior products be discussed off digest and
> took
> >offense against anyone who expressed displeasure with their wares to the
> >listers. It wasn't fun. This toe in the water approach by parts suppliers
> >could escalate far beyond any so called un-Healey threads and should be
> >discouraged. I know some of you are saying we'll wait to see if it gets out
> >of hand then we'll act. I say if you need parts send for catalogs or visit
> >E-Bay. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Joe Durant" <jdurant@stlnet.com>
> >To: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>; "John Snyder"
> ><johnahsn@olypen.com>; "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>;
> ><Editorgary@aol.com>
> >Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 1:04 AM
> >Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Conversely... I think that is Just Exactly what we need on the list!
> >Don't
> >> get me wrong. This Absolute is Not a venue for commercialism.
> However,
> >> part of the reason I joined this list was to (hopefully) find some parts
> >I
> >> might need.
> >>
> >> It appears to me that the parts that have been made available to us on
> the
> >> list are from "enthusiasts". YES, some of them have commercial links
> and
> >> even may own those businesses. But, as long as they are True
> enthusiasts
> >> of the Marque (and we know who they are!).... I find that they are
> >> providing us certainly a service... if not a favor!
> >>
> >> Joe
> >> BT7, BJ7
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>
> >> To: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>; "Ron Rader"
> ><rader@interworld.net>;
> >> <Editorgary@aol.com>
> >> Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> >> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:11 PM
> >> Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > The operative word is listers. We don't need parts suppliers using the
> >> > digest to peddle their wares whether they be parts that have been lying
> >> > around or regular stock. All parts suppliers to my knowledge have
> >catalogs
> >> > available either free or for a nominal charge which is usually refunded
> >on
> >> > the first order. I believe a strong message should be issued to first
> >> > offenders with automatic unsubscription being the penalty for a second
> >> > offense. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>
> >> > To: "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>; <Editorgary@aol.com>
> >> > Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> >> > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:33 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > I agree with Ron and Gary. I have found this List to be very helpful
> >> with
> >> > > selling un-needed Austin Healey parts to someone who can use them,
> and
> >> for
> >> > > buying parts for my cars from someone who has what I need. I'm not a
> >> > > business, just an old guy who restores BN7 & BT7 cars.
> >> > >
> >> > > John Snyder
From "P.M. Pollock" <pollpete at ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:31:16 -0800
Subject: OT: Re: one more No Healey content: Think of election outside
Listers: NOT HEALEY RELATED
"The political right here ( Republicans) is trying to stifle the vote by
taking advantage of, or possibly engineering aberrations in the voting
process, which is truly marred and antiquated"
Do you not arguably have this backwards?
Is not the primary (built-in) aberration currently at issue in the voting
process that not all voters attempt/persist/succeed in removing the "chads"
(punch-outs) from their ballots? Some of the hanging chads will end up
occluding the holes from whence they came, resulting in the counting machine
missing an attempted vote. In the 40 or so years I've been voting the materials
always were such as made it clear to me that it was my responsibility to remove
the chads to make sure my vote would be counted. Each time a recount is done
some more chads are knocked loose in the process, which is why each time a
recount is done each candidate tends to gain votes. The tendency is to gain
votes in proportion to the momentary political support in the district being
recounted. That is, if you have a voting district (e.g. SomeCounty, FL) of the
overall jurisdiction at issue (e.g. Florida) where the counted votes ran 50% for
the Widgets and 50% for the CarpetPounders the newly counted ballots on each
recount will also be very close to 50/50. But if the district is one in which
the vote is going say 65% Widgets, 35% CPs (e.g. Palm Beach, FL), the new votes
will tend to likewise run 65/35. Anyone genuinely interested in an as far as
possible honest count who advocates recounts, must advocate procedurally
identical recounts of the WHOLE jurisdiction at issue (e.g. the State of
Florida). If the Widgeters seek recounts only in their 65% districts and
procedures maximizing the number of valid ballots in such districts (e.g. in a
manual recount dents counted as votes rather than as mistakes or deliberate
halts) THEY are the ones "taking advantage of... aberrations". They are seeking
the most "accurate" final count only where it will benefit them, so that the
voters of the districts supporting them receive the benefit of an intense count
while the voters of the rest of the state do not. In the coming court battles
don't be surprised if you hear the phrase "equal protection of the law" (one of
the most important provisions of the US Constitution).
Regards,
Pete Pollock
DMMax@aol.com wrote:
> << I have to second the
> oppinion of Josef. Me and others around me are wondering what is going
> on over there in the States. >>
>
> Some of us Americans feel this Presidential Race "Fiasco" is a healthy thing
> for our US. Democracy.
>
> 1> We have laws to guide us.
>
> 2> The political right here ( Republicans) is trying to stifle the vote by
> taking advantage of, or possibly engineering aberrations in the voting
> process, which is truly marred and antiquated.
>
> Yet:
>
> The American Populus seems to be seeing through this sham and is invigorated
> about Democracy and 'The Vote' in ways it hasn't been in years. With a 50%
> turn-out with our voters, we need a good wake-up call in this county. This
> first call could have been far worst than this little stumble.
From kentmclean at mindspring.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:47:41 -0500
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
Jonathan Lane wrote:
> I think that most of us are aware of the various parts
> suppliers out there. If not then look in Hemmings to
> find them.
I think he meant to say "look in British Car Magazine
to find them."
:-)
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2
Disclosure: I have no personal or financial interest in
British Car Magazine.
From LarryRPH at aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:38:13 EST
Subject: Fwd: one more No Healey content: A little long winded
Return-path: <LarryRPH@aol.com>
From: LarryRPH@aol.com
Full-name: LarryRPH
Message-ID: <68.92ea16d.27444ddf@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:36:47 EST
Subject: Re: one more No Healey content: A little long winded
To: BOWERSDA@uvsc.edu
CC: healeys@autoxteam.net
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Dave
Right on!!!
If you ever decide to run for piblic office - you have my vote!
Larry
From kentmclean at mindspring.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:55:19 -0500
Subject: Re: NO HEALEY CONTENT; Regards the election
Don Yarber wrote:
> NEW YORK (AP) --The New York Mets announced today that
> they are going to court to get an additional inning added
> to the end of Game 5 of the World series.
<snip>
Interesting. But given this obtuse correlation to the recent
US vote, I don't think anyone is looking to get an addition
day added to the voting period. In addition, I believe that
all of the balls and strikes called during the Series were
done via a manual count; there was no machine involved that invalidated any of
the pitches. Imagine the uproar if there
was.
If the vote is that close, does it really make that much of a
difference? We're not talking Mother Theresa v. Atilla the Hun
here (although some will argue that we are). And I apologize
in advance to any Huns I may have offended.
Personally, I'm tired of the whole mess. I pray the next four
years aren't too painful, at which point I hope to see
a) candidates who will take a stand on the issues to
differentiate themselves, b) a voting population ready to
exercise their right to vote, and c) improved ballots and
the ability to count them correctly.
Let's get back to Healeys.
Kent McLean,
'56 100 BN2
From dickb at cheerful.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:26:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Torquing Heads
"No-bolt retorquing" ??????
---- you wrote:
> I used after market ARP head, main bearing and connecting rod bolts on
> my motor. They came not only with very explicit torquing instruction,
> but also included a special lubricant. If I recall, the instructions
> also included torquing specs for use with engine oil, which were a bit
> lower than for the supplied lubricant.
>
> BTW, I believe that Felpro claims that no bolt re-torquing after X
> number of initial miles is required if you use their head gaskets. I've
> have heard from some pretty knowledgeable people that this is bunk.
>
> Roland
>
> >
> > I had a neat little pamphlet from Felpro about their head gaskets. The
> > pamphlet had pages and pages of charts showing the torquing methods for all
> > sorts of cars. I read through some of them. It was amazing the different
> > methods. Most did it in stages - like 15 lbs for all first, 25, 35 ...
> > (those are just numbers thrown out there for example, each car seemed to
> > have different steps). Others, with or without steps, went up to the final
> > torque number, then backed down a partial turn, then back up. All sorts of
> > combinations. So, I think the bottom line point is to simply do what the
> > factory for your car recommended - ie hot, cold, dry, wet, steps, etc. -
> > though I'm pretty sure my Alpine factory manuals only give the final
> > setting and don't say anything about wet or dry.
> >
> > Jay
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
From LBCarNut <LBCarNut at carolina.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:33:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Malfunctioning Fuel Gauge
John,
Try running a ground wire from the sender unit to a good ground, if
the guage now works, your tank is not grounded.
Peter Samaroo
Charlotte NC
jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us wrote:
>
> Hello Listers - Fuel gauge on my BN6 reads 'full' ,or close to it, regardless
>of
> how much gas is in the tank. Gauge is recently restored. Sender is new. Wiring
> is correct. Negative ground. Where to start? Suggestions, please? Thank you -
> JohnC
From "John J. Black" <helejohn at neteze.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:10:48 -0800
Subject: VERY VERY tongue in cheek joke OK! Just a joke!
Hi Guys
I just had to pass this on to you, it was on another list of which I am a
member. NO offense meant to ANYONE!
Regards
John J Black
Waterloo Drivetrain Systems
http://www.waterloo-dtr.com
On Behalf Of Paul Garside
Subject: NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE
NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE
To the citizens of the United States of America,
In the light of your failure to elect a President of the USA and thus to
govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your
independence, effective today.
Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchial duties over
all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she
does not fancy.
Your new prime minister (The rt. hon. Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you
who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders)
will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections.
Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be
circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.
To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules
are introduced with immediate effect:
1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then
look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at
just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. Generally, you should raise
your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary". Using the same
twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you
know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up
"interspersed".
2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on
your behalf.
3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It
really isn't that hard.
4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the
good guys.
5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen",
but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get
confused and give up half way through.
6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of
football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game.
The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders
may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no
longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football.
Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult
game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby
(which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for
a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like
nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens side by
2005.
7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if
they give you any merde. The 98.85% of you who were not aware that there is
a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians
have never been the bad guys. "Merde" is French for "shit".
8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 8th will be a new
national holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day".
9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your
own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean.
10. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.
Thank you for your cooperation.
ERII
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:09:30 EST
Subject: Re: one more No Healey content: A little long winded
In a message dated 11/15/2000 2:41:55 PM Central Standard Time,
LarryRPH@aol.com writes:
>
And "which" "office" would that be, Larry????
"Enquiring minds...." actually WANT to know?!?!?!?
Ed
From Danrap1 at aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:18:36 EST
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
As a psudo-dealer its a tough call. I like genuine enthusiasts (AKA: listers)
to have first crack at the items I post on ebay. In the last few months I
have had a supercharged bugeye sprite project, a two seater tri carb (cheap
at twice the price, step right up ladies and gentlemen, step right up!) and
bags of healey parts.
It's a tough call.
I don't want to commercialize the list, but some are happy to have an early
start, others view it as an intrusion.
What to do?
All listers comments eagerly sought.
Daniel Rapley
>
> God, I hate to admit it but in a way I actually agree with Ray. I hope it
> doesn't become a habit.
>
> As I mentioned in an earlier post, in the months that I have been on the
> list I have not tried to use the list or my affiliation with it to sell
> parts. I sent out my recent weird stuff sale posting simply because these
> items were going out at exceptional discounts and are not going to be
> restocked. I don't want to use the list to sell oil filters.
>
> I think that most of us are aware of the various parts suppliers out there.
> If not then look in Hemmings to find them. As a normal list guy I would
> hate to be barraged by sales propaganda from a supplier who already sends
me
> stuff in the mail. It's not hard to figure out who on the list is actually
> in the business and if someone chooses to do business with them, great.
> I've had people from the list call me and order parts and I appreciate
their
> business. If we have something unusual come in stock, I will alert people
> but the list is not the place for general advertising.
>
> Jonathan Lane
> Retail Sales
> Moss Motors, Ltd.
> (800) 235-6954 x3240
> (805) 692-2525 - Fax
> lanej@mossmotors.com
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:22:03 EST
Subject: Re: VERY VERY tongue in cheek joke OK! Just a joke!
In a message dated 11/15/2000 6:49:52 PM Central Standard Time,
helejohn@neteze.com writes:
>
er, Sorry, John, but I have heard the Queen is REALLY pis*ed!! Her next
edict (after cell phone one) is allegedly on just this subject!!!
Cheers.................
Ed
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:30:39 EST
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
In a message dated 11/15/2000 7:21:54 PM Central Standard Time,
Danrap1@aol.com writes:
> <<What to do?>>
>
Follow MJB's RULES. Easy.
Ed
From Howard Young <hoyo at bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:05:07 -0600
Subject: Re: works cars book
Hi Ken,
with all due respect, and mind full of the pro'lems this caused me on the Volvo
list,
as they say where i'm from; "you Sir are full of *#it". i have wasted countless
weekends and thousands of miles searching for an old Healey race car that turned
out to be a "Series1" Spitfire! if i had known you had a 100/S i would have
stopped by and seen it when i went to L.A. or S.F. in the
mid-'80's.................i drove a full race 100 in high school as my 2nd
car,1st restoration, mostly undercover of night,or alone on the "Great River
Road"........E Production S.C.C.A. sans windshield.......with old style goggles
and partial leather helmet,rollbar,Simpson seat belts............."Healey
enthusiasts!" HA!!
Respectfully Yours,
Howard Lee Young,Jr.
P.S. where's that wallpaper? <G>
Freese, Ken wrote:
> The book can't be done in America. There aren't any relevant cars here.
> American Healey enthusiasts wouldn't walk across the street to see a unusual
> Healey or a 100S. They can't relate their own restoration woes, problems, or
> teenage experiences to them. Please prove me wrong. This is a much more
> relevant topic to start a flame war with!!!
> Ken Freese
> 65 BJ8
> ex 100S owner
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JISah102 [mailto:ah102@home.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 2:27 PM
> To: Editorgary@aol.com; Healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: UJB143
>
> Hey Gary: If you do this book, I'll place an order right now!
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
> To: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:19 PM
> Subject: Re: UJB143
>
> >
> > In a message dated 11/14/00 1:38:44 AM, sebring@illawarra.hotkey.net.au
> > writes:
> >
> > << For those interested One of the 'works' SMO cars is also for sale.
> > If you were considering a trip to Australia make it New Year's Eve were
> > the Americian LeMans Series is running as part of Don Panoz's world
> > series. Location,Adelaide on the Formula One circuit.
> > Joe >>
> >
> > It's not a job I'd like to take on, but wouldn't it be interesting if
> someone
> > did a registry or listing of all the Specials and Works Cars and where
> they
> > are now -- maybe even a nice photograph book of what they looked like then
> > and what they look like now.
> > Cheers
> > gary
From Brian Mix <brianmix at home.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:18:57 -0800
Subject: Re: 100S visitors
What? We can just call up and visit an 100-S!
OK, who has an "S" on the list, and can I visit it?
I'm in California.
At 08:46 AM 11/15/00 -0800, Freese, Ken wrote:
>
>I owned a 100S for 20 years both in Southern California and Northern
>California. It was in a restored condition for 5 years. Knowledge that I
>had it was no secret. I wrote a couple of club articles, had a major
>magazine (European Car) feature the car, Road & Track and Automobile carried
>pictures in their editorial content, showed it at major multi-marque
>concours (only one Healey event unfortunately because I don't have a
>trailer), and drove it to some local club events. I think I had 10 phone
>calls from people wanting to see the car and half of these were from
>overseas visitors. Some were from non Healey people. So my opinion is that
>California Healey folk aren't interested sufficiently to overcome their
>shyness and invite themselves over for a look at an unusual Austin-Healey.
>Or it was my breath.
>Anyway, that is history. I just hope I can get a chance to do another
>interesting Healey special project someday.
>Ken
From "Brian Collins" <bcolins at airmail.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:28:36 -0600
Subject: Need oil pan
Anyone have an aftermarket Aluminum oil pan for a 61 MKI 3000 BT7?
Preferably one with clearance equal to or better than stock and additional
oil capacity.
Brian Collins
From Howard Young <hoyo at bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:35:01 -0600
Subject: Re: 100S visitors
YEAH!
Who has one in Louisiana,Mississippi,Arkansas,Texas, or Alabama?!
HoYo
Brian Mix wrote:
> What? We can just call up and visit an 100-S!
>
> OK, who has an "S" on the list, and can I visit it?
>
> I'm in California.
>
> At 08:46 AM 11/15/00 -0800, Freese, Ken wrote:
> >
> >I owned a 100S for 20 years both in Southern California and Northern
> >California. It was in a restored condition for 5 years. Knowledge that I
> >had it was no secret. I wrote a couple of club articles, had a major
> >magazine (European Car) feature the car, Road & Track and Automobile carried
> >pictures in their editorial content, showed it at major multi-marque
> >concours (only one Healey event unfortunately because I don't have a
> >trailer), and drove it to some local club events. I think I had 10 phone
> >calls from people wanting to see the car and half of these were from
> >overseas visitors. Some were from non Healey people. So my opinion is that
> >California Healey folk aren't interested sufficiently to overcome their
> >shyness and invite themselves over for a look at an unusual Austin-Healey.
> >Or it was my breath.
> >Anyway, that is history. I just hope I can get a chance to do another
> >interesting Healey special project someday.
> >Ken
From Howard Young <hoyo at bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:35:46 -0600
Subject: Re: 100S visitors
P.S. i get off at 3:45p.m.........................HoYo
Brian Mix wrote:
> What? We can just call up and visit an 100-S!
>
> OK, who has an "S" on the list, and can I visit it?
>
> I'm in California.
>
> At 08:46 AM 11/15/00 -0800, Freese, Ken wrote:
> >
> >I owned a 100S for 20 years both in Southern California and Northern
> >California. It was in a restored condition for 5 years. Knowledge that I
> >had it was no secret. I wrote a couple of club articles, had a major
> >magazine (European Car) feature the car, Road & Track and Automobile carried
> >pictures in their editorial content, showed it at major multi-marque
> >concours (only one Healey event unfortunately because I don't have a
> >trailer), and drove it to some local club events. I think I had 10 phone
> >calls from people wanting to see the car and half of these were from
> >overseas visitors. Some were from non Healey people. So my opinion is that
> >California Healey folk aren't interested sufficiently to overcome their
> >shyness and invite themselves over for a look at an unusual Austin-Healey.
> >Or it was my breath.
> >Anyway, that is history. I just hope I can get a chance to do another
> >interesting Healey special project someday.
> >Ken
From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:08:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: ** New Mail List ** (Reminder)
Hi all,
Since announcing the new Austin-Healey Club USA Mail List just three days
ago, we have already had over 60 people sign up! That's really great and
we're looking forward to kicking off the discussion there very soon.
Therefore I just wanted to send a brief reminder to any AHCUSA members on
these lists who intend to sign up, but had not yet done so, to please sign
up soon. Just go to this website to sign up:
http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
Thanks!
Cheers,
Reid
> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:28:28 -0800 (PST)
> From: Reid Trummel <AHCUSA@excite.com>
> To: healeys@autox.team.net, spridgets@autox.team.net
> Subject: ** New Mail List **
> Cc: AHCUSA@vitesse.team.net
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm very happy to announce a new membership benefit -- an innovation in
> staff-member communications -- for all members of the Austin-Healey Club
> USA. We have just created a new mail list, similar to the "healeys" and
> "spridgets" lists, exclusively for club members. This new list will
provide
> an additional means of communication between the club staff and members.
It
> will serve as a medium for announcements and information related to club
> business and club benefits, and as a forum for discussion of club
affairs.
>
> This new list will IN NO WAY compete with, or duplicate the functions of,
> the healeys and spridgets lists.
>
> The new list will:
>
> -- Serve as a means to make announcements related to club business and
> benefits, such as making an advance announcement of the availability of a
> new book, or the re-stocking of club regalia, or a sale on club
merchandise.
>
> -- Serve as a means for members to pose questions to the staff about club
> policy, operations and functions.
>
> -- Serve as a means for club staff to contact members to take a sample
poll
> of member opinions on various matters related to the club.
>
> -- Serve as a means to inform interested members about Board meetings and
> decisions on club business matters.
>
> -- Serve as a means to take discussions of club business off the healeys
and
> spridgets lists, where not everyone is a member and many are not
interested
> in those matters.
>
> The new list will NOT:
>
> -- Serve as a forum for discussing matters that belong on the healeys and
> spridgets lists, such as tech questions and parts searches. Anyone
posing
> that type of question on the club list will be invited to pose the
question
> or request on the healeys and/or spridgets list(s) to keep those lists
the
> vital, valuable, "non-denominational" resources that they are.
>
> ALL MEMBERS of the Austin-Healey Club USA are invited and strongly
> encouraged to join the new list. Message volume will be very, very low
> compared to the healeys and spridgets lists, so it will definitely not
fill
> up anyone's email in-box. You may also elect to receive the new list in
> "digest" form.
>
> To subscribe to the new AHCUSA list you merely visit a web site and fill
in
> and submit an electronic form located there. You will then be notified
via
> email within a day or two when you have been added to the AHCUSA Mail
List
> (unless of course you are not a member in which case you will receive a
> message inviting you to join; the list is open only to dues-paying
members
> and Lifetime Members).
>
> The sign-up form is located here:
>
> http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
>
> We hope that all AHCUSA members will visit this web site and sign up for
> this new, free mail list. We believe that this innovation in
staff-member
> communications has great potential and further demonstrates our
commitment
> to serving the members, our fellow enthusiasts. Welcome to the "virtual
> club meeting"!
>
> Cheers,
> Reid Trummel
> President, Austin-Healey Club USA
> http://www.healey.org
> http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
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From "Rich C" <rich.chrysler at sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:19:29 -0500
Subject: Hundred Engine Parts Needed
Hi folks,
Hope someone can help with the following engine parts for an Austin Healey
Hundred:
1 camshaft gear, part no. B3-65, which is item A22 on parts list page Engine
4, the cam sprocket the timing chain goes onto.
4 setscrews- oil pump, part no. 2K3060 on page Engine 8, the ones that hold
end cap to pump body.
1 oil return pipe with spring, collar, and washer, part no. 1B1236 , item AA24
on page Engine 8.
1 tube for rod (oil dipstick screw in tube) part no. 1B1063 on page Engine 8.
1 thrust button for inside end of tachometer drive gear.
I'm assembling an engine for a friend, and we got the thing all in pieces,
bags, and boxes. Now we're down to assembly and finding a lot of parts
missing. I think this is all we need.
Can someone help, please?
Rich Chrysler
From "Quinn, Patrick" <Patrick.QUINN at det.nsw.edu.au>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:44:00 +1100
Subject: Re: 100S visitors
Greetings
Sitting here reading how my American friends would sell their mothers-in-law
to see a 100S at an American rally I just had the most wonderful idea.
Providing that shipping costs would be met I could arrange for the following
cars to be at Lake Tahoe in 2002.
Ex Works Healey Silverstone
NOJ 392 - ex works 1953 Le Mans 100
Land Speed engine powered 100M
BN3/1 - six cylinder prototype
8 x 100Ss
Sebring Sprite
2 x ex works Rally 3000s
2 x ex DHMC Sebring 3000s
4000
Le Mans Sprite
XR37 - Le Mans 1970 (The same car ran as a coupe in 68 & 69)
I appreciate that not everyone will be able to make it to Lake Tahoe so what
about a Motorama style circuit of the US afterwards? Come on everyone dig
deep.
I am happy to supply my bank details for appropriate size deposits
Regards
Patrick Quinn
Sydney, Australia
1947 Healey Duncan Saloon
1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1 (I want to be there)
ps You must realise that while you guys received 90% of total AH production
models we had to make do with the hand made leftovers.
>>> Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com 16/11/00 3:46:42 >>>
I owned a 100S for 20 years both in Southern California and Northern
California. It was in a restored condition for 5 years. Knowledge that I
had it was no secret. I wrote a couple of club articles, had a major
magazine (European Car) feature the car, Road & Track and Automobile carried
pictures in their editorial content, showed it at major multi-marque
concours (only one Healey event unfortunately because I don't have a
trailer), and drove it to some local club events. I think I had 10 phone
calls from people wanting to see the car and half of these were from
overseas visitors. Some were from non Healey people. So my opinion is that
California Healey folk aren't interested sufficiently to overcome their
shyness and invite themselves over for a look at an unusual Austin-Healey.
Or it was my breath.
Anyway, that is history. I just hope I can get a chance to do another
interesting Healey special project someday.
Ken
From Dean Caccavo <healeybn7 at yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:24:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Garage Floors
Gary,
You may want to check your local building codes as
some garage floor coverings are considered unsafe
(tile and carpet) due to fire hazards.
California is not a "finished" garage floor republic.
5/8" drywall Yes, floor coverings No.
Dean BN7
Thousand Oaks, California
--- Editorgary@aol.com wrote:
> We're currently considering four options: garage
> floor paint, linoleum, tile,
> or garage carpet (Griot's, among others, sells
> garage carpet.)
>
> Any advice?
>
> Cheers
> Gary
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From HealeyRic2 at aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:50:43 EST
Subject: Re: 100S visitors
In a message dated 11/15/00 10:47:01 PM, Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au writes:
<<Sitting here reading how my American friends would sell their mothers-in-law
to see a 100S at an American rally I just had the most wonderful idea.
Providing that shipping costs would be met I could arrange for the following
cars to be at Lake Tahoe in 2002.>>
Patrick,
Ship the cars directly to me, I'll forward my mother-in-law on the next tramp
steamer.
Rick
From Roland Wilhelmy <rwil at cts.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 21:39:32 -0800
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
I find a short announcement -- 2 to 5 lines with an email address or
web site in it to be useful most times and easily deleted without much
wasted time if not.
I like the current situation as is, even when there is an occasional
technical 'digression' from the posted rules. I would get tired very
quickly of a weekly broadside from some purveyor.
I really appreciate a commercial supplier responding to my request for
a source for some obscure part or technical installation details, and
it stands to reason that most of the time their response is worth
posting to the list as of general interest (or at least of interest to
a few other Healey owners). I save most such postings in a file to
search in case of future need.
-Roland
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:18:36 EST, Danrap1@aol.com wrote:
:: I don't want to commercialize the list, but some are happy to have an early
:: start, others view it as an intrusion.
::
:: What to do?
::
:: All listers comments eagerly sought.
From "Russ & Natalie Bamsey" <ia549 at worldchat.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 01:20:34 -0500
Subject: Not Healey Related-British "Half Penny" Information
I have recently received a donation from "Advantage Maintenance Products Ltd."
to the Austin Healey Club of Southern Ontario, a box of British "Half Penny"
coins, sealed in a hard plastic sleeve and inserted in a blue folding case
marked in gold "A Souvenir From Britain's Royal Mint" with a Royal Mint logo
above. It appears that the original box is marked "prodesign", 896 Queen
Street West, Toronto, Canada M6J 1G6 with "Blue Coin Wallets with Half Penny"
marked on the box. The coins themselves are marked 1967.
I would appreciate finding out if the coins have some monetary value or
collector status within the club.
Do we distribute them to any members that come out to "Pub Night"; sell them
at the British Flea market in April, 2001 or save them as gifts for inter-club
functions. Any feedback appreciated.
Thanks for your help, Natalie...
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Subject: BEST QUOTE OF THE DAY
> BEST QUOTE OF THE DAY:
>
> "YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT THOSE OLD LADIES IN PALM BEACH CAN PLAY 15 BINGO
> CARDS SIMULTANEOUSLY - BUT CAN'T PUNCH A BALLOT?!"
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 00:13:28 -0600
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
Upon further consideration I withdraw my objection. Special cases do exist.
Perhaps a little paranoia was left over from a previous bad experience,
clouding my judgement. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej@mossmotors.com>
To: "Healeys (E-mail)" <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
> God, I hate to admit it but in a way I actually agree with Ray. I hope it
> doesn't become a habit.
>
> As I mentioned in an earlier post, in the months that I have been on the
> list I have not tried to use the list or my affiliation with it to sell
> parts. I sent out my recent weird stuff sale posting simply because these
> items were going out at exceptional discounts and are not going to be
> restocked. I don't want to use the list to sell oil filters.
>
> I think that most of us are aware of the various parts suppliers out
there.
> If not then look in Hemmings to find them. As a normal list guy I would
> hate to be barraged by sales propaganda from a supplier who already sends
me
> stuff in the mail. It's not hard to figure out who on the list is
actually
> in the business and if someone chooses to do business with them, great.
> I've had people from the list call me and order parts and I appreciate
their
> business. If we have something unusual come in stock, I will alert people
> but the list is not the place for general advertising.
>
> Jonathan Lane
> Retail Sales
> Moss Motors, Ltd.
> (800) 235-6954 x3240
> (805) 692-2525 - Fax
> lanej@mossmotors.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Malcolm Bruce [mailto:malcolm@procurcorp.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 5:49 AM
> To: ray feehan; Joe Durant; John Snyder; Ron Rader; Editorgary@aol.com
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
>
>
> Ray,
> Frankly, I would rather read messages from the commercial parts suppliers
on
> this list than many of the so called contributions from you and several
> others, they are potentially useful.
>
> Mal Bruce
> BJ8
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ray feehan <feehanr@cadvision.com>
> To: Joe Durant <jdurant@stlnet.com>; John Snyder <johnahsn@olypen.com>;
Ron
> Rader <rader@interworld.net>; Editorgary@aol.com <Editorgary@aol.com>
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:38 AM
> Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
>
> >
> >Thanks to your post all the parts suppliers will now be listing parts for
> >sale on the digest proclaiming their enthusiasm for the "Marque". I
> belonged
> >to a lapidary digest a few years ago and dealers were invited to
> >participate. The list was inundated with items for sale and the vendors
> >frequently began and pursued flame wars amongst and against each other.
> They
> >also began insisting that inferior products be discussed off digest and
> took
> >offense against anyone who expressed displeasure with their wares to the
> >listers. It wasn't fun. This toe in the water approach by parts suppliers
> >could escalate far beyond any so called un-Healey threads and should be
> >discouraged. I know some of you are saying we'll wait to see if it gets
out
> >of hand then we'll act. I say if you need parts send for catalogs or
visit
> >E-Bay. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Joe Durant" <jdurant@stlnet.com>
> >To: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>; "John Snyder"
> ><johnahsn@olypen.com>; "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>;
> ><Editorgary@aol.com>
> >Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 1:04 AM
> >Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Conversely... I think that is Just Exactly what we need on the list!
> >Don't
> >> get me wrong. This Absolute is Not a venue for commercialism.
> However,
> >> part of the reason I joined this list was to (hopefully) find some
parts
> >I
> >> might need.
> >>
> >> It appears to me that the parts that have been made available to us on
> the
> >> list are from "enthusiasts". YES, some of them have commercial links
> and
> >> even may own those businesses. But, as long as they are True
> enthusiasts
> >> of the Marque (and we know who they are!).... I find that they are
> >> providing us certainly a service... if not a favor!
> >>
> >> Joe
> >> BT7, BJ7
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "ray feehan" <feehanr@cadvision.com>
> >> To: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>; "Ron Rader"
> ><rader@interworld.net>;
> >> <Editorgary@aol.com>
> >> Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> >> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:11 PM
> >> Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > The operative word is listers. We don't need parts suppliers using
the
> >> > digest to peddle their wares whether they be parts that have been
lying
> >> > around or regular stock. All parts suppliers to my knowledge have
> >catalogs
> >> > available either free or for a nominal charge which is usually
refunded
> >on
> >> > the first order. I believe a strong message should be issued to first
> >> > offenders with automatic unsubscription being the penalty for a
second
> >> > offense. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "John Snyder" <johnahsn@olypen.com>
> >> > To: "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>; <Editorgary@aol.com>
> >> > Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> >> > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:33 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > I agree with Ron and Gary. I have found this List to be very
helpful
> >> with
> >> > > selling un-needed Austin Healey parts to someone who can use them,
> and
> >> for
> >> > > buying parts for my cars from someone who has what I need. I'm not
a
> >> > > business, just an old guy who restores BN7 & BT7 cars.
> >> > >
> >> > > John Snyder
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 00:17:55 -0600
Subject: Re: works cars book
When you get a book full of pictures of Healeys, special(they all are to me)
or not who bothers with the writing? RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Reid Trummel" <AHCUSA@excite.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: works cars book
>
> Ken,
>
> I don't disagree that it is a dry read at times. It is not an exciting
> book, but it is well done and thorough; carefully documented with lots of
> detail and good photos.
>
> Also bear in mind that it covers the *BMC* Factory Team history. That's
why
> it covers primarily the rally stuff. It was the Donald Healey Motor
Company
> that ventured into Le Mans and Sebring and the Mille Miglia et al., not
the
> *BMC* Factory Team. In the world of motorsports, big Healeys were not, as
> far as the factory (BMC) was concerned, rally cars, not race cars. Donald
> Healey sponsored some racing, and some privateers raced them, but BMC
> rallied them. And history has shown, rather decisively, where they did
> best.
>
> Cheers,
> Reid
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:25:04 -0800, Freese, Ken wrote:
>
> > Reid,
> > I thought that book was dull as dirt. The title should have said
"Rally"
> in
> > it. A big disappointment when I read it.
> > Ken Freese
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Reid Trummel [mailto:AHCUSA@excite.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 6:15 PM
> > To: healeys@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: works cars book
> >
> >
> >
> > There is an excellent book on the works big Healeys. It's titled, "The
> > Works Big Healeys" and subtitled "The international competition history
> of
> > the Austin-Healey 100-Six and 3000." Authored by Peter Browning and
> > copyrighted 1995, it was published by Haynes Publishing, Sparkford, Nr.
> > Yeovil, Somerset BA22 7JJ.
> >
> > Peter Browning was the last Competitions Manager of BMC, and previously
> was
> > the General Secretary of the then factory-sponsored Austin-Healey Club,
> > worked on the BMC magazine "Safety Fast," and was later BMC
Competitions
> > Press Officer. It would be hard to find anyone anywhere who is even
near
> > his league for qualifications, and the book is thorough and well
> > illustrated.
> >
> > Mind you, this book covers primarily the BMC factory team cars, and as
> such
> > coverage of the Donald Healey Motor Company-sponsored cars and
> > privately-owned cars is scant. However, it's an excellent book that I
> have
> > relied upon heavily for research for the 2000 and 2001 Austin-Healey
> > Calendars. Unfortunately it appears that the book MAY be out of print
> and I
> > see that we do not currently list it among the books sold by the club.
> > However, as a fairly recent book it may be relatively easy to find a
used
> > copy, and if anyone locates a current source for them, please advise
me.
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Reid Trummel
> > Tampa, Florida
> > 2 x BN2
> > 2 x AN5
> > http://www.healey.org
> > http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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From njones at amadeus.net
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:39:10 +0100
Subject: RE: The Works Healeys
The book you mentioned was last time I looked in October(2000) still available
from
a major London Automobile booksellar-Chaters in Isleworth,Middlesex.
Price was 20 pounds sterling ...I have this book in my collection and often
refer to it.
...Chaters Motoring Booksellers 8 South Street Isleworth Middlesex
TW7 7BG Tel: 0181 568 9750 Fax: 0181 569 8273
Email:
user@chaters.powernet-int.co.uk
I cant find their web page at the moment but will tonight and I'll let you
know..
Nick Jones,Erding,Munich
From DRob482726 at cs.com
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:52:24 EST
Subject: (no subject)
To the list,
My sickness has leveled off some as I get older.
60 Bugeye Running
62 Square Body Race Car with log book Restoring
61 BT7 Tri carb Running
61 BT7 Tri carb Restoring
62 bN7 Tri carb Running
I will be slowing down as I now have my four grandchildren living with us. It
had to end sometime!
DRob482726@cs.com alias Healeyman@compuserve.com
From "Michael Lupynec" <mlupynec at globalserve.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:44:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Re: one more No Healey content: Think of election outside
Just saw a piece last nite on US TV, where P.S. teachers were
already teaching the young ones that electoral college has to be
dispensed with. - ie. "The peoples vote must be counted, not some
electoral vote".
Up here when the teachers are preparing to strike, they ask
students to do essays on the dispute, after using the morning PA
system to broadcast their union position.
Mike L.
60A,67E,59 Bug
----- Original Message -----
From: P.M. Pollock <pollpete@ix.netcom.com>
To: <DMMax@aol.com>
Cc: <hm.heim@t-online.de>; <healeys@autox.team.net>;
<Josef.Eckert@t-mobil.de>
Sent: November 15, 2000 2:31 PM
Subject: OT: Re: one more No Healey content: Think of election
outside US
>
> Listers: NOT HEALEY RELATED
>
> "The political right here ( Republicans) is trying to stifle the
vote by
> taking advantage of, or possibly engineering aberrations in the
voting
> process, which is truly marred and antiquated"
>
> Do you not arguably have this backwards?
>
> Is not the primary (built-in) aberration currently at issue in
the voting
> process that not all voters attempt/persist/succeed in removing
the "chads"
> (punch-outs) from their ballots? Some of the hanging chads will
end up
> occluding the holes from whence they came, resulting in the
counting machine
> missing an attempted vote. In the 40 or so years I've been
voting the materials
> always were such as made it clear to me that it was my
responsibility to remove
> the chads to make sure my vote would be counted. Each time a
recount is done
> some more chads are knocked loose in the process, which is why
each time a
> recount is done each candidate tends to gain votes. The
tendency is to gain
> votes in proportion to the momentary political support in the
district being
> recounted. That is, if you have a voting district (e.g.
SomeCounty, FL) of the
> overall jurisdiction at issue (e.g. Florida) where the counted
votes ran 50% for
> the Widgets and 50% for the CarpetPounders the newly counted
ballots on each
> recount will also be very close to 50/50. But if the district
is one in which
> the vote is going say 65% Widgets, 35% CPs (e.g. Palm Beach,
FL), the new votes
> will tend to likewise run 65/35. Anyone genuinely interested in
an as far as
> possible honest count who advocates recounts, must advocate
procedurally
> identical recounts of the WHOLE jurisdiction at issue (e.g. the
State of
> Florida). If the Widgeters seek recounts only in their 65%
districts and
> procedures maximizing the number of valid ballots in such
districts (e.g. in a
> manual recount dents counted as votes rather than as mistakes or
deliberate
> halts) THEY are the ones "taking advantage of... aberrations".
They are seeking
> the most "accurate" final count only where it will benefit them,
so that the
> voters of the districts supporting them receive the benefit of
an intense count
> while the voters of the rest of the state do not. In the coming
court battles
> don't be surprised if you hear the phrase "equal protection of
the law" (one of
> the most important provisions of the US Constitution).
>
> Regards,
>
> Pete Pollock
>
>
> DMMax@aol.com wrote:
>
> > << I have to second the
> > oppinion of Josef. Me and others around me are wondering what
is going
> > on over there in the States. >>
> >
> > Some of us Americans feel this Presidential Race "Fiasco" is a
healthy thing
> > for our US. Democracy.
> >
> > 1> We have laws to guide us.
> >
> > 2> The political right here ( Republicans) is trying to
stifle the vote by
> > taking advantage of, or possibly engineering aberrations in
the voting
> > process, which is truly marred and antiquated.
> >
> > Yet:
> >
> > The American Populus seems to be seeing through this sham and
is invigorated
> > about Democracy and 'The Vote' in ways it hasn't been in
years. With a 50%
> > turn-out with our voters, we need a good wake-up call in this
county. This
> > first call could have been far worst than this little stumble.
From njones at amadeus.net
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:31:26 +0100
Subject: Lucas sports coil and readjusting plug gap-results
Finally I got round to regapping the plugs on the 3000 and what a difference...
I was running the sports coil approx 40,000v and using standard gaps set 0.25"
and like Peter Schauss
suggested my timing seemed to be out..sluggish and a bit rough.
Now at 0.35" its revs with a vengence...theres nothing quite like the sound of a
throbbing six in tune..
Thanks for all advice...0.35" seems spot on.(BJ8 cam and timing at 15 degrees
BTDC.)
Now to seal my oil leak from the rocker shaft studs that go all the way through
the head..what a bind..,.
From njones at amadeus.net
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:32:56 +0100
Subject: Aluminium cylinder head.
Would anyone know to what torque setting I should retighten my Ali cylinder head
to..?
I have competition studs fitted and have covered 1500miles since its rebuild.
Thx in advance
From "Don Yarber" <dyarber at dynasty.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:49:52 -0600
Subject: British Half Pennys
Natalie Ramsey wrote:
>Do we distribute them to any members that come out to "Pub Night"; sell
them
at the British Flea market in April, 2001 or save them as gifts for
inter-club
functions. Any feedback appreciated.<
Hang on to them Natalie, according to John Black you'll need them when
England takes over America. (Tongue way back in cheek).
Don
BN7
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The
Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the
difference.
From "Edrick Adams" <je.adams at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:14:13 -0500
Subject: Re: 100S visitors
WOW!!!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Quinn, Patrick <Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au>
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>;
Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: 100S visitors
>
>Greetings
>
>Sitting here reading how my American friends would sell their
mothers-in-law
>to see a 100S at an American rally I just had the most wonderful
idea.
>
>Providing that shipping costs would be met I could arrange for the
following
>cars to be at Lake Tahoe in 2002.
>
>Ex Works Healey Silverstone
>NOJ 392 - ex works 1953 Le Mans 100
>Land Speed engine powered 100M
>BN3/1 - six cylinder prototype
>8 x 100Ss
>Sebring Sprite
>2 x ex works Rally 3000s
>2 x ex DHMC Sebring 3000s
>4000
>Le Mans Sprite
>XR37 - Le Mans 1970 (The same car ran as a coupe in 68 & 69)
>
>I appreciate that not everyone will be able to make it to Lake Tahoe
so what
>about a Motorama style circuit of the US afterwards? Come on everyone
dig
>deep.
>
>I am happy to supply my bank details for appropriate size deposits
>
>Regards
>
>Patrick Quinn
>Sydney, Australia
>
>1947 Healey Duncan Saloon
>1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1 (I want to be there)
>
>ps You must realise that while you guys received 90% of total AH
production
>models we had to make do with the hand made leftovers.
>
>
>>>> Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com 16/11/00 3:46:42 >>>
>
>I owned a 100S for 20 years both in Southern California and Northern
>California. It was in a restored condition for 5 years. Knowledge
that I
>had it was no secret. I wrote a couple of club articles, had a major
>magazine (European Car) feature the car, Road & Track and Automobile
carried
>pictures in their editorial content, showed it at major multi-marque
>concours (only one Healey event unfortunately because I don't have a
>trailer), and drove it to some local club events. I think I had 10
phone
>calls from people wanting to see the car and half of these were from
>overseas visitors. Some were from non Healey people. So my opinion is
that
>California Healey folk aren't interested sufficiently to overcome
their
>shyness and invite themselves over for a look at an unusual
Austin-Healey.
>Or it was my breath.
>Anyway, that is history. I just hope I can get a chance to do another
>interesting Healey special project someday.
>Ken
From jclose at sduhsd.k12.ca.us
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:22:13 -0800
Subject: Side Exhaust, BN6
Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired enough to
consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has tried
this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. - JohnC
From Magnus Karlsson <healey at telia.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:44:03 +0000
Subject: Re: Aluminium cylinder head.
00-11-16 16.32, skrev njones@amadeus.net pe njones@amadeus.net fvljande:
Nick,
Use the same setting as on a standard engine.
Magnus Karlsson
SWEDEN
>
> Would anyone know to what torque setting I should retighten my Ali cylinder
> head
> to..?
>
> I have competition studs fitted and have covered 1500miles since its rebuild.
>
> Thx in advance
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:57:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
Hi John,
The only time I ever get a headache is when I drive any distance in a Healey
with
a side exhaust.
This includes my 100S even when I wear my full face helmet.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us wrote:
> Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired enough to
> consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has tried
> this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. - JohnC
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:55:51 -0600
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
Hi John
My friend Gerry Threlfall who has a BT7 tried this and states " for short trips
a
half hour duration it's cool - however if the trips are longer you'll need
industrial ear plugs or become deaf. The installation was easy and it looked
cool but the down side is the noise. - if you're 25 years old you'll not give a
darn and go with the noise" He is back to the traditional system.
Kind regards
Ed
Saskatoon
'65 BJ8
jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us wrote:
> Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired enough to
> consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has tried
> this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. - JohnC
From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:06:30 -0800
Subject: RE: Side Exhaust, BN6
been there, done that on a BJ8. Too loud.
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
-----Original Message-----
From: jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us [mailto:jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us]
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:22 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Side Exhaust, BN6
Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired enough to
consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has
tried
this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. - JohnC
From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:41:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: British Half Pennys
Natalie Ramsey wrote:
>> Do we distribute them to any members that come out to "Pub Night"; sell
them at the British Flea market in April, 2001 or save them as gifts for
inter-club functions. Any feedback appreciated. <<
Don Yarber wrote:
>> Hang on to them Natalie, according to John Black you'll need them when
England takes over America. <<
You know, a good old fashioned constitutional monarchy is beginning to look
better and better. Might be time to try it again? ;-)
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
2 x BN2
2 x AN5
http://www.healey.org
http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
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From "Pagel, John" <John.Pagel at imotors.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:55:55 -0800
Subject: RE: Side Exhaust, BN6
As I have said before, there are some neat racing mufflers available
that are very thin. I used a Borla oval-pipe racing muffler and tucked it
up tight under the car. I used Thermo-tech heat shielding to keep my cool,
and gained close to an inch of clearance. This involves fabrication, $$$
(very expensive muffler, I happened to have access to a cheap used one) and
time. I learned my exhaust fabricating skills from racing an RX7.
Rotaries create lots of heat and noise and require huge exhaust volume.
Also, we run 'em close to the ground for aero and handling. After a
couple of years getting the exhaust right on the racecar I tackled the
Healey. My exhaust exits out the back, is loud, but isn't annoying for
the driver or passenger of the Healey. I think it may even be quieter
than stock. My car is a BT7 and isn't making any noise right now because
I need an engine... JP
John Pagel
Data Manager
Tel: (916) 265-4230
john.pagel@iMotors.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com [mailto:Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:07 AM
To: 'jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us'; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Side Exhaust, BN6
been there, done that on a BJ8. Too loud.
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
-----Original Message-----
From: jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us [mailto:jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us]
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:22 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Side Exhaust, BN6
Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired enough to
consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has
tried
this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. - JohnC
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:15:31 EST
Subject: Drifting away from Healey Content
In a message dated 11/16/00 11:44:56 AM, AHCUSA@excite.com writes:
<< You know, a good old fashioned constitutional monarchy is beginning to look
better and better. Might be time to try it again? ; >>
Do we get to vote on which royal family we're going to have? Those English
royals
make Bill Clinton look clean by comparison.
Cheers
Gary
From lmercibn6 at mindspring.com
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:39:44 -0500
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
John,
My BN6 had a side exhaust when I bought it in 1964. The ground
clearance was much better without the tail pipes out the rear and the
noise level was not all that bad with the hood (top) off the car. But,
put the hood on and it traps a lot of noise in the cockpit.
About ten years ago I put on a new stainless exhaust and yes my rear
drags sometimes.
Larry Mercier
BN6
AN5
AN6
AN8
----- Original Message -----
From: <jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 2:22 PM
Subject: Side Exhaust, BN6
>
> Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired
enough to
> consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who
has tried
> this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. -
JohnC
From "kirk kvam" <62BT7 at prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:50:21 -0800
Subject: Fw: Online Petition (political in nature-use delete if not
I KNOW this will RANKLE some shorts and get some PANTIES in a wad, BUT I'll
take my chances.
Kirk Kvam
Subject: Fw: Online Petition (political in nature-use delete if not
interested!)
> For those of you who are "inclined!" Others, I apologize--please hit
> "delete!"
>
>
> > Please participate in this petition?
> > > go to: www.ElectionIntegrity2000.com
> > >
>
> IF YOU ARE SO INCLINED PASS THIS ALONG
Kirk Kvam
From "Gerry Lichtenberger" <glichtenberger at machidascope.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:08:24 -0500
Subject: Looking for BN1/BN2
I am looking to purchase a BN1/BN2 (1954-1956) driver in good to excellent
condition. Prefer red. Please send details and pictures if possible.
Located in Northern New Jersey.
Thanks,
Gerry Lichtenberger
From "kirk kvam" <62BT7 at prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:09:52 -0800
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
I have done side exhaust on all my Healey's since 1961 and have enjoyed.the
note.
Exhaust pipes In front of rear wheel, YES quite loud and obnoxious and carry
large bottle of Bayer as the exhaust tips are only approx 18 to 24 inches
away from your left ear. What else could you expect ?
BUT
Exhaust behind the rear wheel and angled at approx 45 degree angle, OOH the
sweet sounds Donald made.
Kirk Kvam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Freese, Ken" <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
To: <jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:06 AM
Subject: RE: Side Exhaust, BN6
>
> been there, done that on a BJ8. Too loud.
> Ken Freese
> 65 BJ8
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us [mailto:jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us]
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:22 AM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Side Exhaust, BN6
>
>
>
> Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired enough to
> consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has
> tried
> this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. - JohnC
From WilKo at aol.com
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:18:54 EST
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
The side volume for me (a long time ago) was way too loud with the stock
style muffler. I now have the Monza setup and wear earplugs for most Healey
driving more than a couple of miles. I work sometimes as a musician and go to
a lot of loud clubs so at 37 I've developed a bit of tinitis (exascerbated by
the almost daily trips in the Healey 40 miles a day on the freeway).
On The Healey, I've found that the ground clearance around town isn't so bad
when the springs and tires are good. I'm running new springs (about $120 on
sale from Moss) the Monza exhaust and sometimes low tires (195/60). That
average 1" that is lost from sagging springs is enough to make all the
difference.
The dragging point (I've found) is not the end of the pipes but acually the
point where the pipes are bent upward for the last foot or so. The departure
angle can be increased by starting the upward bend a bit further forward.
Benefits are the very inexpensive pipes, and the breakover and departure
angle increases.
Rick
San Diego
In a message dated 11/16/00 9:23:42 AM, jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us writes:
<<
Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired enough to
consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has tried
this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. - JohnC >>
From "kirk kvam" <62BT7 at prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:24:08 -0800
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6 /Muffler
Try a 240Z muffler, two in two out, approx 6 to 8 inches shorter and more
compact for clearence, a little louder but most enjoyable enhancing the
sound Donald made.
Minor modification as to cutting off the stock hangers.
Kirk Kvam
62BT7#3
60BN7-405 (built 302 "FORD")
26 "T" Roadster P/U
33 Ford P/U (built 350 w/nox
etc, etc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pagel, John" <John.Pagel@imotors.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:55 AM
Subject: RE: Side Exhaust, BN6
>
> As I have said before, there are some neat racing mufflers
available
> that are very thin. I used a Borla oval-pipe racing muffler and tucked
it
> up tight under the car. I used Thermo-tech heat shielding to keep my cool,
> and gained close to an inch of clearance. This involves fabrication, $$$
> (very expensive muffler, I happened to have access to a cheap used one)
and
> time. I learned my exhaust fabricating skills from racing an RX7.
> Rotaries create lots of heat and noise and require huge exhaust volume.
> Also, we run 'em close to the ground for aero and handling. After a
> couple of years getting the exhaust right on the racecar I tackled the
> Healey. My exhaust exits out the back, is loud, but isn't annoying
for
> the driver or passenger of the Healey. I think it may even be quieter
> than stock. My car is a BT7 and isn't making any noise right now
because
> I need an engine... JP
>
> John Pagel
> Data Manager
> Tel: (916) 265-4230
> john.pagel@iMotors.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com [mailto:Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:07 AM
> To: 'jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us'; healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: Side Exhaust, BN6
>
>
> been there, done that on a BJ8. Too loud.
> Ken Freese
> 65 BJ8
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us [mailto:jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us]
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:22 AM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Side Exhaust, BN6
>
>
>
> Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired enough to
> consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has
> tried
> this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. - JohnC
From "Mr. Finespanner" <MrFinespanner at prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:48:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
John,
I'll go with Mike, Ed, and Ken -- a side exhaust is loud. Also it can drag
some on right turns if your springs aren't really good. You can, however,
get some nice flames out of one if your exhaust seats are bad and you let
your foot off the gas going down hill.
Doug Reid, 18G Motorworks
----- Original Message -----
From: <jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 2:22 PM
Subject: Side Exhaust, BN6
>
> Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired enough to
> consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has
tried
> this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. - JohnC
From "Rich C" <rich.chrysler at sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:54:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
Watch out for headaches and deafness in your left ear, and be very careful
not to gouge the back of your left ankle on the side exit pipe tip as you
get into the car.
Rich Chrysler
----- Original Message -----
From: <jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 2:22 PM
Subject: Side Exhaust, BN6
>
> Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired enough to
> consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has
tried
> this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. - JohnC
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:35:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
You mean I could look like one of those "Le Mans" cars.
Totally Special man!!!!
Where IS my hacksaw>>>>
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Mr. Finespanner" wrote:
> John,
> I'll go with Mike, Ed, and Ken -- a side exhaust is loud. Also it can drag
> some on right turns if your springs aren't really good. You can, however,
> get some nice flames out of one if your exhaust seats are bad and you let
> your foot off the gas going down hill.
> Doug Reid, 18G Motorworks
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>
> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 2:22 PM
> Subject: Side Exhaust, BN6
>
> >
> > Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired enough to
> > consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has
> tried
> > this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. - JohnC
From Jwhlyadv at aol.com
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:09:41 EST
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
If you do install a competition side exhaust never test drive it with a
hardtop on the car and the bottoms of the back seats out. Trust me, you don't
want to do that.
My favorite exhaust was the Monza. Cheap to install and sounded great. Mine
lasted twenty years on the BJ8.
Thanks,
James Werner
Louisville, KY
BN4 with a competition side exhaust that is really loud.
BJ8 with factory style SS that sounds wimpy compared to the Monza BJ7 style
formally fitted.
From "Mr. Finespanner" <MrFinespanner at prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:04:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
That would be a change from the roostertails of spray last time I saw you
drive, blasting past an XK 120 on the wet sole of the Boot at Watkins Glen
in a certain 100S.
Doug, 18G
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Salter" <magicare@home.com>
To: "Mr. Finespanner" <MrFinespanner@prodigy.net>
Cc: "healey list" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
>
> You mean I could look like one of those "Le Mans" cars.
>
> Totally Special man!!!!
>
> Where IS my hacksaw>>>>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Mike Salter
> http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
>
>
> "Mr. Finespanner" wrote:
>
> > John,
> > I'll go with Mike, Ed, and Ken -- a side exhaust is loud. Also it can
drag
> > some on right turns if your springs aren't really good. You can,
however,
> > get some nice flames out of one if your exhaust seats are bad and you
let
> > your foot off the gas going down hill.
> > Doug Reid, 18G Motorworks
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>
> > To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 2:22 PM
> > Subject: Side Exhaust, BN6
> >
> > >
> > > Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired
enough to
> > > consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who
has
> > tried
> > > this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. -
JohnC
From Krazy Kiwi <magicare at home.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:27:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
I was in a hurry!!
Racing in the rain always makes me want to take a leak!!!!
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
www.precisionsportscar.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Mr. Finespanner" wrote:
> That would be a change from the roostertails of spray last time I saw you
> drive, blasting past an XK 120 on the wet sole of the Boot at Watkins Glen
> in a certain 100S.
> Doug, 18G
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Salter" <magicare@home.com>
> To: "Mr. Finespanner" <MrFinespanner@prodigy.net>
> Cc: "healey list" <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 5:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
>
> >
> > You mean I could look like one of those "Le Mans" cars.
> >
> > Totally Special man!!!!
> >
> > Where IS my hacksaw>>>>
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mike Salter
> > http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mr. Finespanner" wrote:
> >
> > > John,
> > > I'll go with Mike, Ed, and Ken -- a side exhaust is loud. Also it can
> drag
> > > some on right turns if your springs aren't really good. You can,
> however,
> > > get some nice flames out of one if your exhaust seats are bad and you
> let
> > > your foot off the gas going down hill.
> > > Doug Reid, 18G Motorworks
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>
> > > To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 2:22 PM
> > > Subject: Side Exhaust, BN6
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired
> enough to
> > > > consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who
> has
> > > tried
> > > > this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. -
> JohnC
From Terry Blubaugh <tblubaugh at earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:52:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Drifting away from Healey Content
Nothing could make Bill Clinton look clean to me!!
Terry Blubaugh
Editorgary@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 11/16/00 11:44:56 AM, AHCUSA@excite.com writes:
>
> << You know, a good old fashioned constitutional monarchy is beginning to look
> better and better. Might be time to try it again? ; >>
>
> Do we get to vote on which royal family we're going to have? Those English
> royals
> make Bill Clinton look clean by comparison.
>
> Cheers
> Gary
From "Richard J. Hockert, Esq." <rjh.co at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:55:56 -0600
Subject: Re: Aluminium cylinder head.
>Would anyone know to what torque setting I should retighten my Ali
cylinder head
>to..?
Nick:
The important piece when determining the torque setting for the head bolts
is not the type of head but the type of stud. With an alloy head, there is
a dissimilar expansion rate between the head and the cylinder block so
additional torque will help prevent head gasket problems.
With OEM studs, you should use standard torque settings as recommended in
the many manuals on the AH. Since you have indicated "competition" studs,
I should recommend that you contact the manufacturer of those studs to get
a recommendation for maximum torque settings.
On this side of the pond, it is quite customary to use studs manufactured
by ARP. Most race cars of all types use them. The will withstand about
1.5 times the OEM torque setting without stretching. The additional torque
will not harm the alloy head.
Best regards.
Jim Hockert
BJ8 Rallye
Dallas, TX
From "Ron Schonscheck" <schonny at y2consult.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:47:11 -0700
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
My feelings exactly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roland Wilhelmy" <rwil@cts.com>
To: <Danrap1@aol.com>
Cc: <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
>
> I find a short announcement -- 2 to 5 lines with an email address or
> web site in it to be useful most times and easily deleted without much
> wasted time if not.
>
> I like the current situation as is, even when there is an occasional
> technical 'digression' from the posted rules. I would get tired very
> quickly of a weekly broadside from some purveyor.
>
> I really appreciate a commercial supplier responding to my request for
> a source for some obscure part or technical installation details, and
> it stands to reason that most of the time their response is worth
> posting to the list as of general interest (or at least of interest to
> a few other Healey owners). I save most such postings in a file to
> search in case of future need.
>
> -Roland
>
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:18:36 EST, Danrap1@aol.com wrote:
>
> :: I don't want to commercialize the list, but some are happy to have an
early
> :: start, others view it as an intrusion.
> ::
> :: What to do?
> ::
> :: All listers comments eagerly sought.
From "Eugene R. Montresor" <ermontresor at snet.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:41:41 -0500
Subject: fuel line clips
From john spaur <jmsdarch at infoasis.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 21:59:02 -0800
Subject: Re: SELLING ON THE LIST
Ed,
I have not read any of the other post, preferring to read yours first.
Perfect answer.
Regards,
John
At 11:38 AM 11/15/00 -0500, you wrote:
>In a message dated 11/15/2000 1:02:53 AM Central Standard Time,
>jdurant@stlnet.com writes:
>
>
> > <<This Absolute is Not a venue for commercialism. >>
> >
> > Guys, as a Enthusiast AND a Vendor I was asked to read the following from
> > the SOL (autox.team.net):
> >
> > "ITEM 3. Beyond casual comments within ongoing discussions or occasional
> > mention external services, if a company wants to do business on the net,
> > they should not use these lists, but find other means to do so. Many
> > readers do not want to see commercial advertisements on the mailing lists,
> > and will react negativly to such "electronic junk mail".
> > Republishing or using postings from a list or archive for commercial
> > purposes without permission of the author(s) may be a violation of various
> > copyrights, and is generally frowned upon. Most authors are happy to
> > provide permission to have specific postings published as long as they are
> > asked."
>
> > provide and get valuable
> > and useful services on the network, without adversely impacting or
> > affecting operation the mailing lists. Some can be done from any E-mail
> > system, while more advanced services require more advanced computer
> > resources.
>__________________________________________________________________
>Some examples:
> >
> > Send direct E-Mail to someone you think may be interested in your product
> > or service. Maintain your own electronic distribution list (one-way) for
> >
>
> I don't have any problem following that, nor should I. It is a
>"condition of use".
>When I have something of potential "Full List" interest, I ask the Majordomo
>for permission. Mark either says yes or no. Simple.
>
>Cheers..................
>
> Ed
> '63 BJ-7 (Hortense THE Healey)
> Founding Member & Delegate, ILLINI Chapter - AHCA (20+ years)
> Member, AHCUSA
>
>Ed Kaler, Proprietor
>" Just Brits "
>Hinsdale, IL
>www.justbrits.com
From john spaur <jmsdarch at infoasis.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:24:35 -0800
Subject: Re: 100S visitors
Patrick,
I will pay for the shipping costs provided you put them all on one boat. I
will even meet the boat at the dock with a trailer to cart them all away
with. Just imagine, all those cars just for the shipping costs! What a
bargain!! :- )
John
Not a car thief, yet
At 02:44 PM 11/16/00 +1100, Quinn, Patrick wrote:
>Greetings
>
>Sitting here reading how my American friends would sell their mothers-in-law
>to see a 100S at an American rally I just had the most wonderful idea.
>
>Providing that shipping costs would be met I could arrange for the following
>cars to be at Lake Tahoe in 2002.
>
>Ex Works Healey Silverstone
>NOJ 392 - ex works 1953 Le Mans 100
>Land Speed engine powered 100M
>BN3/1 - six cylinder prototype
>8 x 100Ss
>Sebring Sprite
>2 x ex works Rally 3000s
>2 x ex DHMC Sebring 3000s
>4000
>Le Mans Sprite
>XR37 - Le Mans 1970 (The same car ran as a coupe in 68 & 69)
>
>I appreciate that not everyone will be able to make it to Lake Tahoe so what
>about a Motorama style circuit of the US afterwards? Come on everyone dig
>deep.
>
>I am happy to supply my bank details for appropriate size deposits
>
>Regards
>
>Patrick Quinn
>Sydney, Australia
>
>1947 Healey Duncan Saloon
>1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1 (I want to be there)
>
>ps You must realise that while you guys received 90% of total AH production
>models we had to make do with the hand made leftovers.
>
>
> >>> Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com 16/11/00 3:46:42 >>>
>
>I owned a 100S for 20 years both in Southern California and Northern
>California. It was in a restored condition for 5 years. Knowledge that I
>had it was no secret. I wrote a couple of club articles, had a major
>magazine (European Car) feature the car, Road & Track and Automobile carried
>pictures in their editorial content, showed it at major multi-marque
>concours (only one Healey event unfortunately because I don't have a
>trailer), and drove it to some local club events. I think I had 10 phone
>calls from people wanting to see the car and half of these were from
>overseas visitors. Some were from non Healey people. So my opinion is that
>California Healey folk aren't interested sufficiently to overcome their
>shyness and invite themselves over for a look at an unusual Austin-Healey.
>Or it was my breath.
>Anyway, that is history. I just hope I can get a chance to do another
>interesting Healey special project someday.
>Ken
From "Michael A. Flaws" <flaws at ibm.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 22:57:18 -0600
Subject: Re: 100S visitors
Ken,
I'm glad to know and say that I was on of those 10 !!.....
and coming from Chicago, it means I was really 1 of 5 !?!
It must have been about the time of one of your articles was out, that I was to
be in California for a business conference a few years ago. To be in the
neighborhood of a 100-S, I just had to call and see if there was a chance to
see the car. Well, you graciously accepted my call and request to visit. At
the time I was the Chatter BackIssue Chairperson for the AHCA, so I came bearing
gifts with 100-S articles. I enjoyed the visit and your sharing the car with
me.......and I even got a ride!!!!
It definitely is a visit, a car, and a ride that I won't forget!
Thanks for the opportunity for a great memory!
Michael Flaws
"Freese, Ken" wrote:
> I owned a 100S for 20 years both in Southern California and Northern
> California. It was in a restored condition for 5 years. Knowledge that I
> had it was no secret. I wrote a couple of club articles, had a major
> magazine (European Car) feature the car, Road & Track and Automobile carried
> pictures in their editorial content, showed it at major multi-marque
> concours (only one Healey event unfortunately because I don't have a
> trailer), and drove it to some local club events. I think I had 10 phone
> calls from people wanting to see the car and half of these were from
> overseas visitors. Some were from non Healey people. So my opinion is that
> California Healey folk aren't interested sufficiently to overcome their
> shyness and invite themselves over for a look at an unusual Austin-Healey.
> Or it was my breath.
> Anyway, that is history. I just hope I can get a chance to do another
> interesting Healey special project someday.
> Ken
From Fred Crowley <oldwolf at airmail.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:25:17 -0600
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
I have a side-exiting exhaust in my race Healey. Unfortunately my hearing became
affected (even with a balaclava and helmet) and as a result I now require a
hearing aid. To preserve the hearing that I still have, I had a set of custom
molded earplugs made up from the same folks who supplied the hearing aid. The
cost was us$35 and works great. No ringing or deafness even after a 1 hour
enduro. Well worth the money. Really wish I had done it earlier and preserved my
hearing.
Fred
Rich C wrote:
> Watch out for headaches and deafness in your left ear, and be very careful
> not to gouge the back of your left ankle on the side exit pipe tip as you
> get into the car.
> Rich Chrysler
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>
> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 2:22 PM
> Subject: Side Exhaust, BN6
>
> >
> > Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired enough to
> > consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has
> tried
> > this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. - JohnC
[demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of
oldwolf.vcf]
From pcowper at webtv.net (Pete Cowper)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 22:04:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust
I made a side exhaust outlet on my BT7 after the original tailpipes
rotted off back in college in the late 1960's. I drove the 525 mile
trip from Visalia to Humboldt State up above Eureka several times each
year. It really sounded great . . . everyone should experience it.
Right up there with side pipes on a big block Corvette.
Of course I was only 19 or 20 then and wasn't the least bit concerned
about the ringing in my left ear that usually went away after a good
night's sleep.
Pete Cowper (1960 BT7)
From njones at amadeus.net
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:38:04 +0100
Subject: Reply: The Works Big Healeys
Chaters are on ;
http://www.chaters.co.uk
Use power search and Healey as title..they have a good selection.
WORKS BIG HEALEYS INTERNATIONAL
BROWNING P
Published by HAYNES.
Year of Publication: 1995
ISBN No: 0-85429-966-1
Our Price: #15.00
OUT OF PRINT
From: Nick Jones (ADP/DO/OQ) on 16/11/2000 09:39
To: Reid Trummel <AHCUSA@excite.com> -
cc: healeys@autox.team.net -
Subjec RE: The Works Healeys (Document link:
t: Nick Jones)
The book you mentioned was last time I looked in October(2000) still available
from
a major London Automobile booksellar-Chaters in Isleworth,Middlesex.
Price was 20 pounds sterling ...I have this book in my collection and often
refer to it.
...Chaters Motoring Booksellers 8 South Street Isleworth Middlesex
TW7 7BG Tel: 0181 568 9750 Fax: 0181 569 8273
Email:
user@chaters.powernet-int.co.uk
I cant find their web page at the moment but will tonight and I'll let you
know..
Nick Jones,Erding,Munich
From "James Sailer" <sailer at srv.net>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:17:12 -0700
Subject: Thanks - BJ8 Exhaust options
Wanted to thank all that replied to my query on BJ8 exhaust options. I'll be
welding up a Monza exhaust to fit. Been tied up with an elk my son got (13
yrs) needing to get in the freezer, snow, work and a version of the
Chernobyl virus (new variation that virus protection software did not pick
up). Virus took my computer down for 2 days...........
Taking the Healey off the road for the winter, Was hoping for a bare road
for thankgiving but we're snowpacked and going into the negative numbers
this weekend........
Thanks again,
The list is great!
Jim Sailer
66 BJ8
93 Land Rover D110
From CAWS52803 at aol.com
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:28:02 EST
Subject: Harrison Ford and his Healey
I recently saw the cover of the current People magazine and Harrison Ford
appears to be leaving his wife of many years. It was only a few months ago
that he celebrated his birthday with her when she gave him an Austin-Healeys
3000.
Speaking from experience, one should always have more than one car to spare.
Rudy Streng
From DMMax at aol.com
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:35:19 EST
Subject: Re: Drifting away from Healey Content
<< Nothing could make Bill Clinton look clean to me!!
Terry Blubaugh >>
There's a rabid Clinton hater every, EXCEPT IN 60% OF AMERICA. In my
travels, I've found the rest of the western world
loves him too. Clinton haters... get a %&^#@!&*()*** life. (sorry listers)
David Maxwell and the Hate Mongering hater, Mrs. Peel
From jclose at sduhsd.k12.ca.us
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:43:30 -0800
Subject: Zen Moments
To anyone on the list who hasn't read it, I recommend Fifties Flashback, by
Albert Drake. It is a collection of articles written during the fifties for
various hot rod publications, and much of it will ring true for Healey types. At
one point, Drake tells of his trip to the 1953 Oakland Roadster Show. He saved
his money, cut a week of high school, and ventured for the first time out of
rural Oregon to the "big time" city of Oakland, California.
As expected, the trip was a good one, with occasional "zen moments" - times of
both pleasure and peace, times to appreciate being alive, times so enjoyable
that one is completely in the moment, with all of life's "noise" temporarily
filtered out. I bring this up, of course, because one of my first zen moments
took place in a Healey. It was 1956, also in Oakland, and my father was driving
me to school in his new BN2. Red, black interior with red piping. We lived near
the top of a pine-studded hill, and I can still hear the exhaust popping, see
the tach needle bouncing around, feel the sun filtering down on us through the
pine trees. That's the zen moment that made me a Healey guy for life.
As I recently got my BN6 back on the road, memories of that zen moment returned
to me, and that prompted me to tell my story to the list. I'm sure other listers
have had similar zen moments. I'd enjoy hearing about them.
Thanks for your time - JohnC
From john spaur <jmsdarch at infoasis.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:38:02 -0800
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
John,
I change my Healey tale pipes to exit out the side in front of the rear
wheel. I had the pipes fabricated out of tube or pipe. I think it was
tubing. There is a difference in the ID and OD between the two. One fit my
muffler pipes the other did not. I used Chrome Molly tubing from a shop
that happened to fabricate a lot of things with it. If it does not project
far enough from the car it will leave a residue on the paint just above the
pipes.
Cheers
John
'62 BT7
At 11:22 AM 11/16/00 -0800, jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us wrote:
>Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my tailpipe, tired enough to
>consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has tried
>this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's too loud, etc. - JohnC
From Howard Young <hoyo at bellsouth.net>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:39:40 -0600
Subject: [Fwd: The Highjacking of the Presidency]
Since i haven't been involved in the political thread, and it's almost
over,here's my salvo,
compliments of a co-worker who's been reading healey list mail over my
shoulder.....
HoYo
p.s. he didn't say which Don..................
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From: "Greg Guffey" <GGuffey@dhh.state.la.us>
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Subject: The Highjacking of the Presidency
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Send this one to your buddy Don.
New York Post
The Highjacking of the Presidency
Editorial
11/13/00
THE theft of the presidency proceeds apace.
A hand count of electoral returns has either begun or is about to
begin in several heavily Democratic Florida counties - a shockingly
subjective undertaking, front-end-loaded to deliver the Sunshine State, and
thus the White House, to Vice President Al Gore.
But before that happens, the veep and his high-powered sidekicks
need to think long and hard about what they'll do with a presidency that
would amount to stolen property.
That is, a presidency devoid of moral authority to govern - a
prescription for civil dissonance that will make the Clinton years seem like
small beer in comparison.
We understand that the counting of ballots is part of the political
process - that politicians are, of necessity, involved.
But too much is enough. The "recount" is swarming with Democratic
Party operatives - not one of whom had the decency to do what George Bush's
brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, did at the outset: recuse himself to avoid
the appearance of impropriety.
By now, all America has seen the result: the Florida "hand recount."
This involves putting a disputed ballot up to a lamp and attempting
to divine what it was the voter intended to do - as opposed to what he or
she actually did.
But that's not a recount.
That's egg-candling. And mind-reading.
There's nothing objective about it. Or fair.
And it's wholly unacceptable as the means by which title to the
presidency of the United States of America is delivered to anyone - let
alone the guy who lost the state to George W. Bush, pending the opening of
absentee and overseas ballots.
Bush won the state on the up - by a nano- whisker, to be sure. But
he won.
Then he won the various recounts.
And that should be good enough.
But, of course, it's not.
Not to Al Gore. And not to Bill Daley of Chicago, the head mechanic
in this broad-daylight effort to hot-wire the presidency and drive it off to
Nashville.
Happily, lawyers for Gov. Bush will be in federal court this
morning. Their mission: to stop this sham, and to freeze the process in
place until Friday - when the absentee and overseas ballots are opened and
counted.
And that should be the end of it.
Would that be fair? Yes.
Would it be perfect? Of course not.
But compared to what was going on all day yesterday - Democrats
combing through their most reliable precincts, grubbing for the handful of
votes they need to elect their candidate - it is the difference between
night and day.
Between right and wrong.
Between a legitimate presidency and electoral piracy.
Between a domestically governable country and ceaseless political
discord.
Between the beacon of democracy and reason that America has long
been in a fractious, dangerous world - and the abyss.
That much is at stake this morning.
Nothing less.
From "Simon Lachlan" <simon.lachlan at virginnet.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:35:51 -0000
Subject: HD6 carbs from Daimler V8 saloon or SP250
You may remember that I said that I planned to switch my tricarb
MkII over to 1.75in carbs and that my first choice was for HD6s??
So, I have a good offer on some used HD6s and they do seem
correct:- they are all left handed and 30degree at the float
chambers, AUD 2067, per the SU book of rules.
Considering that there was no factory triple HD6 setup, there can
be no precise rule here......but the question is this:-
If one has a manually choked HD6 with the correct angle on it,
how important are differences in type from one HD6 to the next???
Yes, I'll have to switch needles etc, but am I right in assuming
that SU had a basic HD6 which they then tailored for each car model
by utilizing the right combination of the many alternatives to make it
right for that car?? ie they chose the right option then gave that
package a part no. that was unique to that car???
I guess that I'll have to buy the carbs, fit them and then see what
changes I'll need. I already anticipate changing the float camber lids.
Any tips guys??????
Simon.
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:45:00 -0800
Subject: RE: [Fwd: The Highjacking of the Presidency]
Regardless of who wins this election, I am terribly concerned with my school
schedule at Berkeley conflicting with my protest schedule. Hmmm, go to
English class or storm Sproul hall, decisions decisions.
So many issues, so little time...
Jonathan Lane
-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Young [mailto:hoyo@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 8:40 AM
To: austin healey list
Subject: [Fwd: The Highjacking of the Presidency]
Since i haven't been involved in the political thread, and it's almost
over,here's my salvo,
compliments of a co-worker who's been reading healey list mail over my
shoulder.....
HoYo
p.s. he didn't say which Don..................
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From: "Greg Guffey" <GGuffey@dhh.state.la.us>
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Subject: The Highjacking of the Presidency
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Send this one to your buddy Don.
New York Post
The Highjacking of the Presidency
Editorial
11/13/00
THE theft of the presidency proceeds apace.
A hand count of electoral returns has either begun or is about to
begin in several heavily Democratic Florida counties - a shockingly
subjective undertaking, front-end-loaded to deliver the Sunshine State, and
thus the White House, to Vice President Al Gore.
But before that happens, the veep and his high-powered sidekicks
need to think long and hard about what they'll do with a presidency that
would amount to stolen property.
That is, a presidency devoid of moral authority to govern - a
prescription for civil dissonance that will make the Clinton years seem like
small beer in comparison.
We understand that the counting of ballots is part of the political
process - that politicians are, of necessity, involved.
But too much is enough. The "recount" is swarming with Democratic
Party operatives - not one of whom had the decency to do what George Bush's
brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, did at the outset: recuse himself to avoid
the appearance of impropriety.
By now, all America has seen the result: the Florida "hand recount."
This involves putting a disputed ballot up to a lamp and attempting
to divine what it was the voter intended to do - as opposed to what he or
she actually did.
But that's not a recount.
That's egg-candling. And mind-reading.
There's nothing objective about it. Or fair.
And it's wholly unacceptable as the means by which title to the
presidency of the United States of America is delivered to anyone - let
alone the guy who lost the state to George W. Bush, pending the opening of
absentee and overseas ballots.
Bush won the state on the up - by a nano- whisker, to be sure. But
he won.
Then he won the various recounts.
And that should be good enough.
But, of course, it's not.
Not to Al Gore. And not to Bill Daley of Chicago, the head mechanic
in this broad-daylight effort to hot-wire the presidency and drive it off to
Nashville.
Happily, lawyers for Gov. Bush will be in federal court this
morning. Their mission: to stop this sham, and to freeze the process in
place until Friday - when the absentee and overseas ballots are opened and
counted.
And that should be the end of it.
Would that be fair? Yes.
Would it be perfect? Of course not.
But compared to what was going on all day yesterday - Democrats
combing through their most reliable precincts, grubbing for the handful of
votes they need to elect their candidate - it is the difference between
night and day.
Between right and wrong.
Between a legitimate presidency and electoral piracy.
Between a domestically governable country and ceaseless political
discord.
Between the beacon of democracy and reason that America has long
been in a fractious, dangerous world - and the abyss.
That much is at stake this morning.
Nothing less.
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:40:04 -0600
Subject: Re: Drifting away from Healey Content
OK, I can translate everything but the (). What the heck does it mean.
RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: <DMMax@aol.com>
To: <tblubaugh@earthlink.net>; <Editorgary@aol.com>
Cc: <AHCUSA@excite.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: Drifting away from Healey Content
>
> << Nothing could make Bill Clinton look clean to me!!
>
> Terry Blubaugh >>
>
> There's a rabid Clinton hater every, EXCEPT IN 60% OF AMERICA. In my
> travels, I've found the rest of the western world
> loves him too. Clinton haters... get a %&^#@!&*()*** life. (sorry
listers)
>
> David Maxwell and the Hate Mongering hater, Mrs. Peel
From Stephen Hutchings <hutching at the-wire.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:40:41 -0500
Subject: Distributor oil seal
On the BJ8 distributor (DM6?), is the only oil control maintained by
what looks like an "O" ring on the shaft? I ask because , when looked
at from below, it seems to be leaking.
In a box of bits and pieces I've collected over the years, there is a
gasket that looks as though it would
fit where the distributor sits in the block; but the shape of the
bracket would never allow an oil seal.
Dumb question? Enlighten me!
Stephen BJ8
From Jerry Wall <jwbn6 at iopener.net>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:39:18 -0600
Subject: Re: Harrison Ford and his Healey
hey rudy-
healeys are strong, however. sometimes just not strong enough !!
jerry wall
----- Original Message -----
From: CAWS52803@aol.com
To: healeys@autox.team.net, british-cars@autox.team.net
Subject: Harrison Ford and his Healey
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:28:02 EST
I recently saw the cover of the current People magazine and Harrison Ford
appears to be leaving his wife of many years. It was only a few months ago
that he celebrated his birthday with her when she gave him an Austin-Healeys
3000.
Speaking from experience, one should always have more than one car to spare.
Rudy Streng
From Jerry Wall <jwbn6 at iopener.net>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:54:27 -0600
Subject: Re: Zen Moments
hi john-
drake is a healey owner. he owns a 56 bn2, ivory over black or at least he did
in 1985.
i bought some books he had authored and we entered into some correspondence
since we were about the same age, both had started with hot rods in the fifties
and both were healey owners. a great 50's hot rod story he did is Beyond the
Pavement. i wasn't aware of fifties flashback-- where did you find it ?
happy healeying,
jerry wall
----- Original Message -----
From: jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>, <cclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>,
<alapadul@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>, <jlax@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>,
<cmatthew@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>
Subject: Zen Moments
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:43:30 -0800
To anyone on the list who hasn't read it, I recommend Fifties Flashback, by
Albert Drake. It is a collection of articles written during the fifties for
various hot rod publications, and much of it will ring true for Healey types.
At
one point, Drake tells of his trip to the 1953 Oakland Roadster Show. He saved
his money, cut a week of high school, and ventured for the first time out of
rural Oregon to the "big time" city of Oakland, California.
As expected, the trip was a good one, with occasional "zen moments" - times of
both pleasure and peace, times to appreciate being alive, times so enjoyable
that one is completely in the moment, with all of life's "noise" temporarily
filtered out. I bring this up, of course, because one of my first zen moments
took place in a Healey. It was 1956, also in Oakland, and my father was driving
me to school in his new BN2. Red, black interior with red piping. We lived near
the top of a pine-studded hill, and I can still hear the exhaust popping, see
the tach needle bouncing around, feel the sun filtering down on us through the
pine trees. That's the zen moment that made me a Healey guy for life.
As I recently got my BN6 back on the road, memories of that zen moment returned
to me, and that prompted me to tell my story to the list. I'm sure other
listers
have had similar zen moments. I'd enjoy hearing about them.
Thanks for your time - JohnC
From "Eugene R. Montresor" <ermontresor at snet.net>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 18:37:00 -0500
Subject: fuel line clips
Sorry about the blank message...tech problem..
I'm restoring a 64 phase 1 BJ8 and have questions about type of clips
for the fuel line..hair pin or wiring type?? I've checked references
and talked with parts sales but still confused. Also the carb end of
the solid fuel line is supposed to be attached in the area of the brake
and clutch reservior..but where, I can't find any holes. I would
appreciate any help before I'm forced into getting the drill out.
thanks
Gene BJ8
From "Greg Bankin" <gregbankin at primus.com.au>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 10:49:08 +1000
Subject: Re: Zen Moments
This is what Healey ownership is ALL about
Greg Bankin
gregbankin@primus.com.au
Sunshine Coast
Queensland
Australia
'58 BN4
----- Original Message -----
From: <jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>; <cclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>;
<alapadul@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>; <jlax@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>;
<cmatthew@sduhsd.k12.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, 18 November 2000 3:43
Subject: Zen Moments
>
> To anyone on the list who hasn't read it, I recommend Fifties Flashback,
by
> Albert Drake. It is a collection of articles written during the fifties
for
> various hot rod publications, and much of it will ring true for Healey
types. At
> one point, Drake tells of his trip to the 1953 Oakland Roadster Show. He
saved
> his money, cut a week of high school, and ventured for the first time out
of
> rural Oregon to the "big time" city of Oakland, California.
>
> As expected, the trip was a good one, with occasional "zen moments" -
times of
> both pleasure and peace, times to appreciate being alive, times so
enjoyable
> that one is completely in the moment, with all of life's "noise"
temporarily
> filtered out. I bring this up, of course, because one of my first zen
moments
> took place in a Healey. It was 1956, also in Oakland, and my father was
driving
> me to school in his new BN2. Red, black interior with red piping. We lived
near
> the top of a pine-studded hill, and I can still hear the exhaust popping,
see
> the tach needle bouncing around, feel the sun filtering down on us through
the
> pine trees. That's the zen moment that made me a Healey guy for life.
>
> As I recently got my BN6 back on the road, memories of that zen moment
returned
> to me, and that prompted me to tell my story to the list. I'm sure other
listers
> have had similar zen moments. I'd enjoy hearing about them.
>
> Thanks for your time - JohnC
From "Edrick Adams" <je.adams at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 22:45:56 -0500
Subject: Re: [Fwd: The Highjacking of the Presidency]
Damn, some people get it all right, withhout a lot of emotional
backage. Thank you!
-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Young <hoyo@bellsouth.net>
To: austin healey list <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, November 17, 2000 11:40 AM
Subject: [Fwd: The Highjacking of the Presidency]
>
>Since i haven't been involved in the political thread, and it's
almost
>over,here's my salvo,
>compliments of a co-worker who's been reading healey list mail over
my
>shoulder.....
>
>HoYo
>p.s. he didn't say which Don..................
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>Subject: The Highjacking of the Presidency
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>Send this one to your buddy Don.
>
>New York Post
>The Highjacking of the Presidency
>Editorial
>11/13/00
>
>THE theft of the presidency proceeds apace.
>A hand count of electoral returns has either begun or is about to
>begin in several heavily Democratic Florida counties - a shockingly
>subjective undertaking, front-end-loaded to deliver the Sunshine
State, and
>thus the White House, to Vice President Al Gore.
>But before that happens, the veep and his high-powered sidekicks
>need to think long and hard about what they'll do with a presidency
that
>would amount to stolen property.
>That is, a presidency devoid of moral authority to govern - a
>prescription for civil dissonance that will make the Clinton years
seem like
>small beer in comparison.
>We understand that the counting of ballots is part of the political
>process - that politicians are, of necessity, involved.
>But too much is enough. The "recount" is swarming with Democratic
>Party operatives - not one of whom had the decency to do what George
Bush's
>brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, did at the outset: recuse himself to
avoid
>the appearance of impropriety.
>By now, all America has seen the result: the Florida "hand recount."
>
>This involves putting a disputed ballot up to a lamp and attempting
>to divine what it was the voter intended to do - as opposed to what
he or
>she actually did.
>But that's not a recount.
>That's egg-candling. And mind-reading.
>There's nothing objective about it. Or fair.
>And it's wholly unacceptable as the means by which title to the
>presidency of the United States of America is delivered to anyone -
let
>alone the guy who lost the state to George W. Bush, pending the
opening of
>absentee and overseas ballots.
>Bush won the state on the up - by a nano- whisker, to be sure. But
>he won.
>Then he won the various recounts.
>And that should be good enough.
>But, of course, it's not.
>Not to Al Gore. And not to Bill Daley of Chicago, the head mechanic
>in this broad-daylight effort to hot-wire the presidency and drive it
off to
>Nashville.
>Happily, lawyers for Gov. Bush will be in federal court this
>morning. Their mission: to stop this sham, and to freeze the process
in
>place until Friday - when the absentee and overseas ballots are
opened and
>counted.
>And that should be the end of it.
>Would that be fair? Yes.
>Would it be perfect? Of course not.
>But compared to what was going on all day yesterday - Democrats
>combing through their most reliable precincts, grubbing for the
handful of
>votes they need to elect their candidate - it is the difference
between
>night and day.
>Between right and wrong.
>Between a legitimate presidency and electoral piracy.
>Between a domestically governable country and ceaseless political
>discord.
>Between the beacon of democracy and reason that America has long
>been in a fractious, dangerous world - and the abyss.
>That much is at stake this morning.
>Nothing less.
From William Moyer <William.Moyer at millersv.edu>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:53:35 -0500
Subject: Zen moments, long
My fellow Healeyites,
The gas guzzling Explorer with the lousy tires was in the shop so I had to
use the Healey to go to work. I did my homework the night before. I started
the car. I let it run. I drove it around. Hell, I let my daughter drive
it around, unaccompanied. My sleep was undisturbed.
After all, it started the night before after a month or so of inactivity, so
what's the big deal? In the garage. In the heated garage. Of course I
left it out for the night. Trailer Queen? No way. This Chimera has to
suffer. Builds character.
On the way to work the car seemed to be able to backfire through the exhaust
and carbs simultaneously. Loudly, even explosively. Simultaneously. Some
common "british car" mechanics will tell you that this is impossible, but I
can personally attest to not only the possiblility, but reality. Subtle
changes in the choke cable seemed to limit the backfiring to only one hole,
either input or output (remind me to spray the hell out of that choke cable
with some WD40 some time soon.)
Since my office is only 4 minutes from my home, I had to suffer this for a
minimal amount of time. However, when I next drove the Healey I was once
again in burping/farting mode, as it had cooled off again. I want you to
imagine driving through a small college campus in this lovely restored blood
red Healey hiccuping down the street blowing fumes out the bonnet and
flames, not doubt, out the exhaust.
The "Ohm Mane Padme Hum"s were begining to thrum through my brain. I kept
the Healey on the road for 20 minutes and it was back to normal running.
Instant throttle response (0k, given the linkage), no exploding noises
outside the block, no disgusted looks from passersby. I drove home for
dinner.
In the early evening I remembered that there was a regular at my local
watering hole that had been seen in a black over brown Healey recently by
one of my friends. I decide to drive the car over to the pub, play some
pool, quaff a couple near-beers, and show off the car to the guy that didn't
know I have one.
I pull up to the pub after carefully balancing the blasts to an fro from my
car, rather like the shuttle blowing gas to achieve stability, since it had
once again frozen solid in 45 degree weather. I pull the guy outside to
look at the car and he says, "Start it up." A simple request.
I turn the key, press the button. Nada. Fuel pump clicks, lights turn on,
for gods sake windshield wipers wipe, not effectively, but they wipe. No
motion from the starter. I remember that I can start it from the starter
switch, although I haven't had to do that in months. Now where in the hell
is that button in a dark parking lot? No, that's the back end of the oil
filter, for which you get a handful of grease. Ah, there it is, the switch,
push the button, car starts right up.
His friend, a used car dealer comes out, looks at me with my handful of
grease, the car running something less than smoothly, and shakes his head.
He says, "I'll give you 2 thousand dollars for it as is."
-that- is a Zen moment.
Bill Moyer, BJ7, Chimera, needs a lot of warming up, but don't mess with
him.
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 01:09:49 -0600
Subject: Re: Harrison Ford and his Healey
Bad move on her part. Should have bought him a Miata. Who got to keep the
Healey? Ray Feehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Wall" <jwbn6@iopener.net>
To: <CAWS52803@aol.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: Harrison Ford and his Healey
>
> hey rudy-
>
> healeys are strong, however. sometimes just not strong enough !!
>
> jerry wall
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: CAWS52803@aol.com
> To: healeys@autox.team.net, british-cars@autox.team.net
> Subject: Harrison Ford and his Healey
> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:28:02 EST
>
>
> I recently saw the cover of the current People magazine and Harrison Ford
> appears to be leaving his wife of many years. It was only a few months
ago
> that he celebrated his birthday with her when she gave him an
Austin-Healeys
> 3000.
> Speaking from experience, one should always have more than one car to
spare.
> Rudy Streng
From "tom felts" <tfelts at prodigy.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 07:38:08 -0500
Subject: Could I please have one more President thing?
While driving my Healey reading the USA today, I saw this and had to share
it. I feel the flames now.
Albert A. Gore, will you PLEASE GO NOW!
The time has come.
The time is now.
Just go. Go. GO! I dont care how.
You can go by foot. You can go by cow.
Albert A. Gore, will you please go now!
You can go on skates. You can go on skis. You can go in an alternatively
fueled vehicle.
But please go. Please!
You can go to Carthage, Tennessee.
Or back home to DC.
You can go by limo.
Or on Air Force Two.
Just go, go, GO!
Please do, do, DO!
Youve lost two counts around the state.
Youve lost more recounts in some place.
So you can go on stilts.
You can go by endangered fish.
You can go in a solar-powered Crunk-Car if you wish.
If you wish you may go by lions tail.
Or attach yourself and go by e-mail.
Albert A. Gore! Dont you know
the time has come to go, Go, GO!
Get on your way!
Please Albert A.!
You might like going
With Tipper today!
You and your attorneys can go by balloon
You can go by wind-powered Bumble Boat
or biomass-burning jet.
I dont care how you go. Just GET!
Get yourself a natural gas Ga-Zoom.
You can go with a BOOM!
Albert, Albert, Albert, Will you leave the East Room!
You can go by flying on an eagle.
You can go where there's no controlling authority that's legal.
You can go to your Tennessee farm in a pair of blue jeans.
If hand counts are more accurate, why did Democratic counties buy machines?
From Rmoment at aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 07:30:19 EST
Subject: Re: fuel line clips
According the the BJ8 parts book, AKD3523, page MD 1-1, the fuel line clips
on the BJ8 are of the wiring harness type, not the hairpin type used on
roadsters.
Roge
From "Don Yarber" <dyarber at dynasty.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 08:49:37 -0600
Subject: NO HEALEY CONTENT: One more election thing.
Courtesy of Ed Lane
Once upon a campaign dreary, one which left us weak and weary
O'er many a quaint and curious promise of political lore
While we nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a yapping,
As of some votes overlapping, energy-zapping to the core
"'Tis a mess here," we all muttered, as the network anchors
stuttered,
Stuttered over Bush and Gore.
Could there be another election with such a case of misdirection,
One with such a weak selection, yet fraught with tension to the core?
Quoth the ravers, "Nevermore."
Don
BN7
From Richard Brill <alfranken at comic.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:30:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RE: Zen moments, long
Long, but worth it.
DickB
------Original Message------
From: William Moyer <William.Moyer@millersv.edu>
To: "'healeys@autox.team.net'" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: November 18, 2000 5:53:35 AM GMT
Subject: Zen moments, long
My fellow Healeyites,
The gas guzzling Explorer with the lousy tires was in the shop so I had to
use the Healey to go to work. I did my homework the night before. I started
the car. I let it run. I drove it around. Hell, I let my daughter drive
it around, unaccompanied. My sleep was undisturbed.
After all, it started the night before after a month or so of inactivity, so
what's the big deal? In the garage. In the heated garage. Of course I
left it out for the night. Trailer Queen? No way. This Chimera has to
suffer. Builds character.
On the way to work the car seemed to be able to backfire through the exhaust
and carbs simultaneously. Loudly, even explosively. Simultaneously. Some
common "british car" mechanics will tell you that this is impossible, but I
can personally attest to not only the possiblility, but reality. Subtle
changes in the choke cable seemed to limit the backfiring to only one hole,
either input or output (remind me to spray the hell out of that choke cable
with some WD40 some time soon.)
Since my office is only 4 minutes from my home, I had to suffer this for a
minimal amount of time. However, when I next drove the Healey I was once
again in burping/farting mode, as it had cooled off again. I want you to
imagine driving through a small college campus in this lovely restored blood
red Healey hiccuping down the street blowing fumes out the bonnet and
flames, not doubt, out the exhaust.
The "Ohm Mane Padme Hum"s were begining to thrum through my brain. I kept
the Healey on the road for 20 minutes and it was back to normal running.
Instant throttle response (0k, given the linkage), no exploding noises
outside the block, no disgusted looks from passersby. I drove home for
dinner.
In the early evening I remembered that there was a regular at my local
watering hole that had been seen in a black over brown Healey recently by
one of my friends. I decide to drive the car over to the pub, play some
pool, quaff a couple near-beers, and show off the car to the guy that didn't
know I have one.
I pull up to the pub after carefully balancing the blasts to an fro from my
car, rather like the shuttle blowing gas to achieve stability, since it had
once again frozen solid in 45 degree weather. I pull the guy outside to
look at the car and he says, "Start it up." A simple request.
I turn the key, press the button. Nada. Fuel pump clicks, lights turn on,
for gods sake windshield wipers wipe, not effectively, but they wipe. No
motion from the starter. I remember that I can start it from the starter
switch, although I haven't had to do that in months. Now where in the hell
is that button in a dark parking lot? No, that's the back end of the oil
filter, for which you get a handful of grease. Ah, there it is, the switch,
push the button, car starts right up.
His friend, a used car dealer comes out, looks at me with my handful of
grease, the car running something less than smoothly, and shakes his head.
He says, "I'll give you 2 thousand dollars for it as is."
-that- is a Zen moment.
Bill Moyer, BJ7, Chimera, needs a lot of warming up, but don't mess with
him.
From "Mark Fawcett" <fawcett1 at mediaone.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 14:07:37 -0800
Subject: Piston rings
Listers
I'm in the process of installing the piston rings on my 6 cyl Healey
engine. The new pistons are different from the originals in that
there are a total of 5 ring grooves for the rings. The top three are
for compression rings, the fourth is for an oil ring and the fifth
which is located below the grudgeon pin on the piston skirt is a
second oil ring. The instructions that came with the new pistons and
rings say that the 3rd compression ring and the 2nd oil ring in some
particular models are not needed. Has anyone run into this? I seem to
recall a thread about not installing all of the rings. I be checking
the archives too I need the advice of the list on this one. Thanks,
Mark Fawcett
From Healeyguy at aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 19:31:21 EST
Subject: Re: Lumenition Ignition System
Listers
Anybody out there have one of these aftermarket optical ignition systems on
their car. I'm trying to rewire a basket case 100 for a friend and he wants
to reuse the unit that was on the car. Unfortunately the car has been apart
since 1992 and he cannot remember how it was hooked up. There are three wires
that need hooked up, red, black and brown. My assumption is red and black on
each side of the coil. This car is positive ground. There is a three wire
pigtail that connects the ignition box to the distributor so that part is
easy. Brown wire????. Any help out there?
Thanks and....
Aloha
Perry
From Stephen Hutchings <hutching at the-wire.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 19:52:55 -0500
Subject: Fuel Tank sensor
What would the experienced hands recommend as a sealing agent to use
in conjunction with the gasket, when refitting the fuel tank sensor?
That last tankful before putting the car away began to leak
around the depression the sensor sits in; I've pumped it out to below
that level, and await your advice.
Stephen, (there must be a variation of Murphy's law to do with leaks;
last week it was the plumbing in the house!) BJ8
From NPaul72464 at aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 20:22:49 EST
Subject: Lumenition
The Lumenition system is designed for negative ground. Assuming your car is
converted to negative ground, the red wire goes to the ignition (the side
that is on always when the switch is on) and the black goes to ground
(generally on the mounting screw for the power module). The brown wire goes
to the negative side of the coil.
Now, my question, I bought a kit for my 3000 which is positive ground. You
can get a diagram on the Lumenition website that shows how to wire it for a
positive ground car. But, I just can't seem to get it to work. If anyone
has done this, I'd love some guidance.
Thanks,
Ned Paulsen
1960 BN7
From rfrommcpa at juno.com
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 20:18:41 -0500
Subject: Part Healey, part new lister getting my long overdue driver
Hello Everyone,
I, too, am a Healey owner. Have had the same '66 3000 MK III since 1969.
It is just finishing up a complete frame off (again) restoration in
Virginia Beach, VA. Been in the process off and on for years. I towed it
from VA to AR in 1981. Then to MN in 82. Back to VA in 86 where I was
able to find people who could help restore it. Abacus Racing. They were
once exclusively Healeys, but do all sorts of Brit cars now. Because
money was always a factor and I got transferred around a lot I never
quite had it finished. But now the upholstery is going in and I hope to
be back on the road by Christmas.
Now living in Florida. Land of the confused voter. What is going on now
in FLA is pure BS (IMHO).
Love to hear from some of you.
rfrommcpa@juno.com
rfrommcpa@juno.com
From "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at slip.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 17:46:44 -0800
Subject: Re: Fuel Tank sensor
Stephen,
Have used Hylomar #819 in such applications without any problem. It's either a
Loctite or Permatex product and is impervious to petroleum distillates.
Supposedly it was developed by Rolls-Royce for use in jet turbines.
Bob
***********************************************************************
Bob Spidell bspidell@slip.net (home)
San Jose, CA. bspidell@teknema.com (work)
`67 Austin-Healey 3000 (mine) `56 100M (Dad's) PP/ASEL
***********************************************************************
>
> What would the experienced hands recommend as a sealing agent to use
> in conjunction with the gasket, when refitting the fuel tank sensor?
> That last tankful before putting the car away began to leak
> around the depression the sensor sits in; I've pumped it out to below
> that level, and await your advice.
>
> Stephen, (there must be a variation of Murphy's law to do with leaks;
> last week it was the plumbing in the house!) BJ8
From "Steve Byers" <byers at cconnect.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:31:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Fuel Tank sensor
Hi, Stephen!
Great to meet you and Mike Salter and Mal Bruce last week.
Based on a recommendation from the list some time ago, I use Permatex "Tack
'n' Seal" No. 9 to help the gasket seal the sensor. It's fuel resistant,
and works just fine. I found it at my local parts store. Now, if I could
just find a sending unit float that doesn't leak, fill up with fuel, and
sink! I've had two new (plastic) ones from M*SS in a row that were DOA.
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
Havelock, NC USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Hutchings <hutching@the-wire.com>
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:05 PM
Subject: Fuel Tank sensor
>
>What would the experienced hands recommend as a sealing agent to use
>in conjunction with the gasket, when refitting the fuel tank sensor?
>That last tankful before putting the car away began to leak
>around the depression the sensor sits in; I've pumped it out to below
>that level, and await your advice.
>
>Stephen, (there must be a variation of Murphy's law to do with leaks;
>last week it was the plumbing in the house!) BJ8
From "Mr. Finespanner" <MrFinespanner at prodigy.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 22:06:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Fuel Tank sensor
Stephen,
I have had the best luck with Hylomar on the sender gasket.
Doug Reid, 18G Motorworks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Hutchings" <hutching@the-wire.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 7:52 PM
Subject: Fuel Tank sensor
>
> What would the experienced hands recommend as a sealing agent to use
> in conjunction with the gasket, when refitting the fuel tank sensor?
> That last tankful before putting the car away began to leak
> around the depression the sensor sits in; I've pumped it out to below
> that level, and await your advice.
>
> Stephen, (there must be a variation of Murphy's law to do with leaks;
> last week it was the plumbing in the house!) BJ8
From CIAG6 at aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 22:39:15 EST
Subject: Re: Fuel Tank sensor
I had the same problem after installing a new fuel tank. Even a
"gasoline-proof" sealer didn't help for long. It turned out that the problem
was that the screw holes in the tank that attach the sender unit were not
tapped all the way through. The screws were running out of thread in the
holes before the sender unit gasket had been sufficiently compressed to
create a good seal. Retapping of the holes in the tank eliminated the leak
with no need for any sealer.
Ray G
Colorado
From Stephen Hutchings <hutching at the-wire.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 22:57:07 -0500
Subject: Re;Distributors and fuel sensors
Thanks to all who replied to my recent questions.....useful advice, as usual!
Stephen, BJ8
From JSoderling at aol.com
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 00:40:55 EST
Subject: No Healey Content- Dr. Seuss Goes to Flori-duh
Kind of cute.
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Subject: FW: Dr. Seuss Goes to Flori-duh
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:49:19 -0800
To: edna@camalott.com, dsherry@u.washington.edu, cjsherry@juno.com,
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Subject: Dr. Seuss Goes to Flori-duh
>Subject: Dr. Seuss Goes to Flori-duh
>
>>>
>> > Can we count them with our nose?
>> > Can we count them with our toes?
>> > Should we count them with a band?
>> > Should we count them all by hand?
>> > If I do not like the count,
>> > I will simply throw them out!
>> >
>> > I will not let this vote count stand
>> > I do not like them, AL GORE I am!
>> >
>> > Can we change these numbers here?
>> > Can we change them, calm my fears?
>> > What do you mean, Dubya has won?
>> > This is not fair, this is not fun
>> > Lets count them upside down this time
>> > Lets count until the state is mine!
>> >
>> > I will not let this VOTE count stand!
>> > I do not like it, AL GORE I am!
>> >
>> > I'm really ticked, I'm in a snit!
>> > You have not heard the last of it!
>> > I'll count the ballots one by one
>> > And hold each one up to the sun!
>> > I'll count, recount, and count some more!
>> > You'll grow to hate this little chore
>> >
>> > But I will not, cannot let this vote count stand!
>> > I do not like it, Al Gore I am!
>> >
>> > I won't leave office, I'm stayin' here!
>> > I've glued my desk chair to my rear!
>> > Tipper, Hillary, and Bubba too,
>> > all telling me that I should sue!
>> > We find the Electoral College vile!
>> > RECOUNT the votes until I smile!
>> >
>> > We do not want this vote to stand!
>> > We do not like it, AL GORE I am!
>> >
>> > How shall we count this ballot box?
>> > Let's count it standing in our socks!
>> > Shall we count this one in a tree?
>> > And who shall count it, you or me?
>> > We cannot, cannot count enough!
>> > We must not stop, we must be tough!
>> >
>> > I do not want this vote to stand!
>> > I do not like it AL GORE I am!
>> >
>> > I've counted till my fingers bleed!
>> > And still can't fulfill my counting need!
>> > I'll count the tiles on the floor!
>> > I'll count, and count, and count some more!
>> > And I will not say that I am done!
>> > Until the counting says I've won!
>> >
>> > I will not let this vote count stand!
>> > I do not like it, AL GORE I am!
>> >
>> > What's that? What? What are you trying to say?
>> > You think the current count should stay?
>> > You do not like my counting scheme?
>> > It makes you tense, gives you bad dreams?
>> > Foolish people, you're wrong you'll see!
>> > You're only care should be for me!
>> >
>> > I WILL NOT LET THIS VOTE COUNT STAND!
>> > I DO NOT LIKE IT. AND AL GORE I AM!
From HLYDOC at aol.com
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 01:04:02 EST
Subject: Re: Distributor oil seal
Yes the only oil seal that is there for the distributor is the O ring in the
dist body unless you have a early car that has the distributor that is
mounted on a pedestal and that on has oil fed under pressure to the base of
the distributoe and that model has a seal at the top of the housing.
David Nock
President/Service Manager
British Car Specialists
2060 N Wilson Way
Stockton Calif. 95205
209-948-8767 fax 209-948-1030 email HealeyDoc@aol.com
Visit our new web site at <A HREF="http://britishcarspecialists.com/";>
BritishCarSpecialists.com</A>
========================================
Tech Talk Books available for Austin Healey, MG, and Triumph.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From HLYDOC at aol.com
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 01:06:18 EST
Subject: Re: fuel line clips
When the fuel pump was moved to the passanger side of the car (on a left hand
drive car) the fuel lines were then held in place with a wiring harness type
clamp .
David Nock
President/Service Manager
British Car Specialists
2060 N Wilson Way
Stockton Calif. 95205
209-948-8767 fax 209-948-1030 email HealeyDoc@aol.com
Visit our new web site at <A HREF="http://britishcarspecialists.com/";>
BritishCarSpecialists.com</A>
========================================
Tech Talk Books available for Austin Healey, MG, and Triumph.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From Jim Hill <Jim_Hill at chsra.wisc.edu>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 00:19:40 -0600
Subject: [Fwd: The Highjacking of the Presidency]
Howard Young <hoyo@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Since i haven't been involved in the political
>thread, and it's almost over,here's my salvo,
>compliments of a co-worker who's been reading
>healey list mail over my shoulder.....
[New York Post Editorial Snipped]
As if it weren't enough that the illiterati cannot contain themselves from
sending their political rants to an email list dealing with Austin Healeys,
now you want to send the opinions of your friends and co-workers to the
list? And then those "opinions" turn out to be no more than a copy of an
editorial from some newspaper?
Good grief.
Jim Hill
Madison WI
From "Dr. Jan Freiwald" <jfree at okay.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 08:30:25 +0100
Subject: Mk.I R/C model
I wonder if someone is interested in the following: As a passionate modeller
and Healey enthusiast I built an R/C model of the Mk.I in 1/9th scale, overall
length
1ft. 4in. It's absolutely hand-made and unique, highly detailed and fully
functional
with electrical engine and working lights.
Since I now have the mold I could build one or two more of it if anyone is
interested.
But be warned: It takes a long time to build so the price should be worth the
work...
The running model looks really great and instantly demands attention,
especially by
Healey enthusiasts. Just tell me and I send you pictures.
Jan
From "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 10:12:33 -0600
Subject: Bugeye Body
Hey Guys... I have been working on the Camaro now for 2 yrs and really
wanted to get started building the bugeye body for my Bonneville car....
This weekend my good friend Doug Odom crashed the only Healey racing at
Bonneville... he was going through the lights at El Mirage and the car got
loose and he rolled it several times... he is fine but his bugeye body is
destroyed.... So we both now need new Body's.
We just talked on the phone and have made the decision that we want to build
the new bodies out of Fiberglass which means we need a Buck to make the Mold
out of... All we need is the Back Half to a Bugeye that is Straight.. It can
be Rusty... but it has to be relatively undamaged other then Rust. I would
love to find one here in the South.... does anyone on the list have an extra
they are willing to part with to help out in this effort.... it doesn't have
to be Free.... What I don't want to do is destroy an original car that is
capable of being restored with Minimal effort.... ( in other words I don't
want to cut up a Healey! ) The car I am looking for is one that sat outside
with NO TOP and has NO Floor Pans... but has a VERY straight rear ,Door Tops
and cowl section....
Thanks for your time....
Keith Turk
From "Lee S. Mairs" <lmairs at cox.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:19:33 -0500
Subject: Re: The Highjacking of the Presidency]
Good logical thinking is good logical thinking. It thus deserves to be
spread far and wide.
Lee Mairs
'62 BT7 Tri-carb
---
A countryman between two lawyers is like a fish between two cats.
--Ben Franklin
> As if it weren't enough that the illiterati cannot contain themselves from
> sending their political rants to an email list dealing with Austin
Healeys,
> now you want to send the opinions of your friends and co-workers to the
> list? And then those "opinions" turn out to be no more than a copy of an
> editorial from some newspaper?
From "Keith Pennell" <pennell at whro.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:27:17 -0500
Subject: Auto bulbs
Listers,
Anyone out there have a list of auto bulbs with numbers and candlepower (not
just for Healeys) which you could scan or attach for the list?
Thanks if you can, no thanks if you can't
Keith Pennell
From "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:36:01 -0600
Subject: Website (no Lbc)
had a request to post this on the list... here is the website for the
Camaro....if you look you can see Miss Kathy's bugeye behind the So Al
Special...
www.landracing.com/soal
K
From john spaur <jmsdarch at infoasis.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 10:47:57 -0800
Subject: Re: Fuel Tank sensor
I used the tack and seal on the screw threads too as this is where I
believe my sending unit was leaking.
John
'62 BT7
At 04:31 PM 11/18/00 -0500, Steve Byers wrote:
>Hi, Stephen!
>
>Great to meet you and Mike Salter and Mal Bruce last week.
>
>Based on a recommendation from the list some time ago, I use Permatex "Tack
>'n' Seal" No. 9 to help the gasket seal the sensor. It's fuel resistant,
>and works just fine. I found it at my local parts store. Now, if I could
>just find a sending unit float that doesn't leak, fill up with fuel, and
>sink! I've had two new (plastic) ones from M*SS in a row that were DOA.
>
>Steve Byers
>HBJ8L/36666
>Havelock, NC USA
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stephen Hutchings <hutching@the-wire.com>
>To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
>Date: Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:05 PM
>Subject: Fuel Tank sensor
>
>
> >
> >What would the experienced hands recommend as a sealing agent to use
> >in conjunction with the gasket, when refitting the fuel tank sensor?
> >That last tankful before putting the car away began to leak
> >around the depression the sensor sits in; I've pumped it out to below
> >that level, and await your advice.
> >
> >Stephen, (there must be a variation of Murphy's law to do with leaks;
> >last week it was the plumbing in the house!) BJ8
From Peter Brauen <pbrauen at telepak.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 15:41:03 -0600
Subject: Re: Bugeye Body
Hi Keith,
Oddly enough, I came across just such a car last week. The front
'chassis' is cut off behind the wheelarches. There is no front end or
bonnet. There is no running gear. The floors are completely gone, yet the
rear body clip is in remarkably good shape, with no accident damage on the
central panel. The doors are in pretty good shape too. I was thinking it
might be a good candidate for a roll-up-window Bugeye project, but I need
another project like a hole in the head. Let me know what you think.---Peter
(BMC Restorations) Bay St. Louis, Mississippi.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 10:12 AM
Subject: Bugeye Body
>
> Hey Guys... I have been working on the Camaro now for 2 yrs and really
> wanted to get started building the bugeye body for my Bonneville car....
>
> This weekend my good friend Doug Odom crashed the only Healey racing at
> Bonneville... he was going through the lights at El Mirage and the car got
> loose and he rolled it several times... he is fine but his bugeye body is
> destroyed.... So we both now need new Body's.
>
> We just talked on the phone and have made the decision that we want to
build
> the new bodies out of Fiberglass which means we need a Buck to make the
Mold
> out of... All we need is the Back Half to a Bugeye that is Straight.. It
can
> be Rusty... but it has to be relatively undamaged other then Rust. I
would
> love to find one here in the South.... does anyone on the list have an
extra
> they are willing to part with to help out in this effort.... it doesn't
have
> to be Free.... What I don't want to do is destroy an original car that is
> capable of being restored with Minimal effort.... ( in other words I don't
> want to cut up a Healey! ) The car I am looking for is one that sat
outside
> with NO TOP and has NO Floor Pans... but has a VERY straight rear ,Door
Tops
> and cowl section....
>
> Thanks for your time....
>
> Keith Turk
From "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 15:53:14 -0600
Subject: Re: Bugeye Body
Now here is the Perfect candidate.... Peter where is Bay St louis? shoot if
it's in Missisippi it can't be that far no matter how we slice it.... K
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brauen" <pbrauen@telepak.net>
To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
Cc: "Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Bugeye Body
>
> Hi Keith,
> Oddly enough, I came across just such a car last week. The front
> 'chassis' is cut off behind the wheelarches. There is no front end or
> bonnet. There is no running gear. The floors are completely gone, yet the
> rear body clip is in remarkably good shape, with no accident damage on the
> central panel. The doors are in pretty good shape too. I was thinking it
> might be a good candidate for a roll-up-window Bugeye project, but I need
> another project like a hole in the head. Let me know what you
think.---Peter
> (BMC Restorations) Bay St. Louis, Mississippi.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 10:12 AM
> Subject: Bugeye Body
>
>
> >
> > Hey Guys... I have been working on the Camaro now for 2 yrs and really
> > wanted to get started building the bugeye body for my Bonneville car....
> >
> > This weekend my good friend Doug Odom crashed the only Healey racing at
> > Bonneville... he was going through the lights at El Mirage and the car
got
> > loose and he rolled it several times... he is fine but his bugeye body
is
> > destroyed.... So we both now need new Body's.
> >
> > We just talked on the phone and have made the decision that we want to
> build
> > the new bodies out of Fiberglass which means we need a Buck to make the
> Mold
> > out of... All we need is the Back Half to a Bugeye that is Straight.. It
> can
> > be Rusty... but it has to be relatively undamaged other then Rust. I
> would
> > love to find one here in the South.... does anyone on the list have an
> extra
> > they are willing to part with to help out in this effort.... it doesn't
> have
> > to be Free.... What I don't want to do is destroy an original car that
is
> > capable of being restored with Minimal effort.... ( in other words I
don't
> > want to cut up a Healey! ) The car I am looking for is one that sat
> outside
> > with NO TOP and has NO Floor Pans... but has a VERY straight rear ,Door
> Tops
> > and cowl section....
> >
> > Thanks for your time....
> >
> > Keith Turk
From robert hughes <dhugh at mail.tscnet.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:13:16 -0800
Subject: Continental SCC
Slightly off the main subject of the list, but did anyone
on the list belong to the Continental Sports Car Club out
of San Jose, Calif. in the early 1960's? They were mostly
an Auto-X and road racing club.
Robert D. Hughes
1965 BJ8
From Philip Whitton <P.Whitton at uws.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:25:53 +1100
Subject: Fast running Healey
Just a general note FYI: the winger who was instrumental in winning the
Rugby Cook Cup for England against the Australian Wallabies was none other
then Austin Healey.
Just thought you'd like to know.
Wonder what his parents interests were back twenty years.
PJW
From AUSTIN57 at aol.com
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:40:55 EST
Subject: Accelerator Linkage
Has any one had as much troubel with the Leaver on the accelerator shaft as I
am having. I can't get the bolt on the lever tight enough to make the
linkage work. Have replaced all the bushings and adjusted the linkage.
Their is about 1/4 in slop in the lever. I hope that sounds right. Any and
all help appreciated.
kaye
Austin57
From Krazy Kiwi <magicare at home.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:59:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Accelerator Linkage
Hi Kaye,
Quite often these pinch bolts are over tightened resulting in the material
stretching and the pinch gap closing up before the lever tightens on the shaft.
the simple solution is to remove the lever and with a hack saw widen the pinch
gap in the lever. This will usually produce a satisfactory result.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
www.precisionsportscar.com
AUSTIN57@aol.com wrote:
> Has any one had as much troubel with the Leaver on the accelerator shaft as I
> am having. I can't get the bolt on the lever tight enough to make the
> linkage work. Have replaced all the bushings and adjusted the linkage.
> Their is about 1/4 in slop in the lever. I hope that sounds right. Any and
> all help appreciated.
>
> kaye
> Austin57
From "Don Yarber" <dyarber at dynasty.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:54:19 -0600
Subject: Austin Healey Hot Wheels by Mattel
Someone mentioned a little while back that Mattel was going to make an
Austin Healey hot wheels car. I found this sight and thought some of you
might be interested.
http://www.hotwheels.com/collectors/mainline2000/index.asp?toy_no=24391&ctr=
8&series=first
No interest other than in Austin Healey. All other disclaimers apply.
Don
BN7
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The
Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the
difference.
From "Eugene R. Montresor" <ermontresor at snet.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:53:49 -0500
Subject: fuel clip..thanks
Thanks to all who responded to my fuel clip questions..I also found the
hole for the carb end clip...I had a wiring harness clip in that
location that will be moved about four inches towards the front where
the correct hole is located.. thanks again
From "Greg Bankin" <gregbankin at primus.com.au>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:44:31 +1000
Subject: Re: Fast running Healey
Yes - Like we Australians need to be reminded of that !!!
Greg Bankin
gregbankin@primus.com.au
Sunshine Coast
Queensland
Australia
'58 BN4
----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Whitton" <P.Whitton@uws.edu.au>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, 20 November 2000 10:25
Subject: Fast running Healey
>
> Just a general note FYI: the winger who was instrumental in winning the
> Rugby Cook Cup for England against the Australian Wallabies was none other
> then Austin Healey.
>
> Just thought you'd like to know.
> Wonder what his parents interests were back twenty years.
>
> PJW
From Bruce Steele <bsteele2 at pacbell.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:07:42 -0800
Subject: Side curtains
Hi listers. I an seeking some info on side curtains. When I got my
BN7 (1960) this summer it had side curtains which reportedly had never
been on the car. As the aluminum frames are flat channels about 1"
wide, they are clearly not originals nor repros. I believe they were
made when the car was restored in '89. The problem is, they don't
fit. (I'm sure you are all shocked.) I'm curious if the frames
themselves are too big or if the brackets are incorrectly positioned.
In any case, they overlap the windshield pillar by at least 1/2 to 3/4
inch. The dimensions are: Bottom 29 9/16", top (measured from a
straight edge continued up the rear of the frame to the top front
point) 23 1/2", height 12 7/8" at the top front and 13 1/8 at the rear
before the curve. Would any who have curtains for a BN7 (or BN6, I
suppose) be kind enough to compare these measurements with those of
curtains which actually fit, and also offer any comments/tips? (I'm
already anticipating the responses here. So, I might add, any
comments on who has the best repros or where I may find good used or
even NOS, if any are around, would also be appreciated.) Please reply
off the list if you like. Thanks.
Bruce
bsteele2@pacbell.net
From DMMax at aol.com
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:12:29 EST
Subject: Re: Drifting away from Healey Content
OK, I can translate everything but the (). What the heck does it mean.
RayfixitanddriveitFeehan
Ray... If I uttered the words over the internet, I'd be breaking the law
;-) Anyway, Mrs. Peel said ()
David
From "Jerry Costanzo" <costan0 at attglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:00:54 -0800
Subject: Re: Side curtains
My side curtains measure the same as yours. They are repos bought last year
from Sports and Classics. They seem to fit Ok, but I would not call it an
actual seal and it would not keep all the water out.
Jerry
BN4
Subject: Side curtains
>
> Hi listers. I an seeking some info on side curtains. When I got my
> BN7 (1960) this summer it had side curtains which reportedly had never
> been on the car. As the aluminum frames are flat channels about 1"
> wide, they are clearly not originals nor repros. I believe they were
> made when the car was restored in '89. The problem is, they don't
> fit. (I'm sure you are all shocked.) I'm curious if the frames
> themselves are too big or if the brackets are incorrectly positioned.
> In any case, they overlap the windshield pillar by at least 1/2 to 3/4
> inch. The dimensions are: Bottom 29 9/16", top (measured from a
> straight edge continued up the rear of the frame to the top front
> point) 23 1/2", height 12 7/8" at the top front and 13 1/8 at the rear
> before the curve. Would any who have curtains for a BN7 (or BN6, I
> suppose) be kind enough to compare these measurements with those of
> curtains which actually fit, and also offer any comments/tips? (I'm
> already anticipating the responses here. So, I might add, any
> comments on who has the best repros or where I may find good used or
> even NOS, if any are around, would also be appreciated.) Please reply
> off the list if you like. Thanks.
>
> Bruce
> bsteele2@pacbell.net
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:25:00 -0600
Subject: Choke problems
Hi Fellows
Well after re-building the engine in my BJ8 and starting the run-in I've
noticed that I have a minor problem with the choke cables to the HD8s.
When the choke knob is pushed in the choke lever arms remain
approximately 5/8 to 3/4 inch open. I have to push down on the levers to
have them return to the original position. I went the additional mile,
removed the cables and lubricated them, and re-installed them. Same
problem. I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to correct this.
Kind regards
Ed
Saskatoon
'65 BJ8
From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:50:39 -0800
Subject: RE: Choke problems
Ed,
Many owners have given up on the little thin wire spring that is inside the
carb and have installed some helper springs from the choke levers to holes
drilled in the inner fender wells. I guess if the carbs and cables are new,
the original setup might work. Would you please buy some new carbs and find
out for us?
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
-----Original Message-----
From: M.E.&E.A. Driver [mailto:edriver@sk.sympatico.ca]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 11:25 AM
To: Austin Healey list
Subject: Choke problems
Hi Fellows
Well after re-building the engine in my BJ8 and starting the run-in I've
noticed that I have a minor problem with the choke cables to the HD8s.
When the choke knob is pushed in the choke lever arms remain
approximately 5/8 to 3/4 inch open. I have to push down on the levers to
have them return to the original position. I went the additional mile,
removed the cables and lubricated them, and re-installed them. Same
problem. I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to correct this.
Kind regards
Ed
Saskatoon
'65 BJ8
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:16:04 -0600
Subject: Re: Choke problems
Kien
On my desk is a beautiful coffee mug marking the 50th anniverary of the agency
I served in the Canadian Wildlife Service, it's empty. If you wish to make a
contribution towards the new carbs I'd place it in the mug. I return I'd send
you a picture of the CWS logo and a report on the functioning of the new carbs
- once sufficient funds were collected and the purchase made <big grin>.
Thanks for the comment on the helper springs.
Kind regards
Ed
Saskatoon
"Freese, Ken" wrote:
> Ed,
> Many owners have given up on the little thin wire spring that is inside the
> carb and have installed some helper springs from the choke levers to holes
> drilled in the inner fender wells. I guess if the carbs and cables are new,
> the original setup might work. Would you please buy some new carbs and find
> out for us?
> Ken Freese
> 65 BJ8
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: M.E.&E.A. Driver [mailto:edriver@sk.sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 11:25 AM
> To: Austin Healey list
> Subject: Choke problems
>
> Hi Fellows
>
> Well after re-building the engine in my BJ8 and starting the run-in I've
> noticed that I have a minor problem with the choke cables to the HD8s.
> When the choke knob is pushed in the choke lever arms remain
> approximately 5/8 to 3/4 inch open. I have to push down on the levers to
> have them return to the original position. I went the additional mile,
> removed the cables and lubricated them, and re-installed them. Same
> problem. I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to correct this.
>
> Kind regards
> Ed
> Saskatoon
> '65 BJ8
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:46:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Choke problems
Hi Ed,
We have run into a number of BJ8s in this area which have had the double
cone ended throttle springs installed, to pull the choke off. Interestingly
so many of the installations are very similar to the degree that I would bet
that they were done in the factory.
A split pin is installed in a hole in the inner fender and one in the
bulkhead brace, always in the same place and the end of the throttle spring
is extended with a short section of wire before it is hooked into the eye of
the split pin on the choke trunnion cable and the other end into the eye of
the lower split pin.(That sounds as clear as mud).
Anyone else seen this set up. It seems too many cars have the same set up
for it to not be a factory fix...
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"M.E.&E.A. Driver" wrote:
> Hi Fellows
>
> Well after re-building the engine in my BJ8 and starting the run-in I've
> noticed that I have a minor problem with the choke cables to the HD8s.
> When the choke knob is pushed in the choke lever arms remain
> approximately 5/8 to 3/4 inch open. I have to push down on the levers to
> have them return to the original position. I went the additional mile,
> removed the cables and lubricated them, and re-installed them. Same
> problem. I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to correct this.
>
> Kind regards
> Ed
> Saskatoon
> '65 BJ8
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:59:39 -0600
Subject: Re: Choke problems
Ken
Sorry about the typo and mis-spelling your name.
Ed
Kien
On my desk is a beautiful coffee mug marking the 50th anniverary of the
agency
I served in the Canadian Wildlife Service, it's empty. If you wish to
make a
contribution towards the new carbs I'd place it in the mug. I return I'd
send
you a picture of the CWS logo and a report on the functioning of the new
carbs
- once sufficient funds were collected and the purchase made <big grin>.
Thanks for the comment on the helper springs.
Kind regards
Ed
Saskatoon
"Freese, Ken" wrote:
> Ed,
> Many owners have given up on the little thin wire spring that is inside the
> carb and have installed some helper springs from the choke levers to holes
> drilled in the inner fender wells. I guess if the carbs and cables are new,
> the original setup might work. Would you please buy some new carbs and find
> out for us?
> Ken Freese
> 65 BJ8
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: M.E.&E.A. Driver [mailto:edriver@sk.sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 11:25 AM
> To: Austin Healey list
> Subject: Choke problems
>
> Hi Fellows
>
> Well after re-building the engine in my BJ8 and starting the run-in I've
> noticed that I have a minor problem with the choke cables to the HD8s.
> When the choke knob is pushed in the choke lever arms remain
> approximately 5/8 to 3/4 inch open. I have to push down on the levers to
> have them return to the original position. I went the additional mile,
> removed the cables and lubricated them, and re-installed them. Same
> problem. I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to correct this.
>
> Kind regards
> Ed
> Saskatoon
> '65 BJ8
From Dean Caccavo <healeybn7 at yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:01:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Side Exhaust, BN6
John,
I tried it and hated it. The sound of the original
exhaust is one of the Healey's strongest assets.
Dean
BN7
-
> jclose@sduhsd.k12.ca.us wrote:
>
> > Hello Listers - I'm getting tired of dragging my
> tailpipe, tired enough to
> > consider a side exhaust. I would appreciate
> hearing from anyone who has tried
> > this. I'm wondering if it's a good idea, if it's
> too loud, etc. - JohnC
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From "Steve Byers" <byers at cconnect.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:33:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Choke problems
Hi, Ed --
As Ken has already said, the common way to solve this problem is helper
springs. I have them on my BJ8 (the car came to me this way). Some time
ago, this was a topic of discussion on the list. It was pointed out that
the carb design was intended to return the choke levers automatically. When
I had my carbs professionally rebuilt by Joe Curto, I hoped that I would see
some evidence of the design intent, but did not. So, I put the springs back
on. The professional rebuild is about as close to new carburetors as I want
to get.
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
Havelock, NC
------------------------------------
Ken Freese wrote:
Ed,
Many owners have given up on the little thin wire spring that is inside the
carb and have installed some helper springs from the choke levers to holes
drilled in the inner fender wells. I guess if the carbs and cables are new,
the original setup might work. Would you please buy some new carbs and find
out for us?
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
-----Original Message-----
From: M.E.&E.A. Driver <edriver@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: Austin Healey list <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, November 20, 2000 2:55 PM
Subject: Choke problems
>
>Hi Fellows
>
>Well after re-building the engine in my BJ8 and starting the run-in I've
>noticed that I have a minor problem with the choke cables to the HD8s.
>When the choke knob is pushed in the choke lever arms remain
>approximately 5/8 to 3/4 inch open. I have to push down on the levers to
>have them return to the original position. I went the additional mile,
>removed the cables and lubricated them, and re-installed them. Same
>problem. I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to correct this.
>
>Kind regards
>Ed
>Saskatoon
>'65 BJ8
From Magnus Karlsson <healey at telia.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:51:41 +0000
Subject: Clutch
I recently fitted a new disc and release bearing to my clutch. The presssure
plate and flywheel and all other parts are the same. It works fine
disengaging until the clutch pedal is pushed almost to the bottom. There it
starts to engage again, not fully, it slips and a metallic noise can be
heard. The noise is not very loud.
Since I can4t figure this one out and I4m quite sure that the disc is
mounted facing the correct direction, is there anyone who has a clue or has
experienced something similar?
TIA
Magnus Karlsson
SWEDEN
From Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:03:09 +0000
Subject: More senders
Listers,
does anyone know of a good sender that works in a positive earthed car in
conjunction with a new fuel gauge...I am told that there is at least one, but
no-one seems to know who makes it.
Thanks in advance.
Peter Dzwig
From Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 22:57:21 +0000
Subject: Re: Side curtains
Bruce,
this is just a thought but do they by any chance have what looks like an ally
piece bolted on to the rear end of the frame as an afterthought?
When I bought my BN4 I found that the curtains from a later car didn't fit; but
the originals (which were all scratched, had flat channels etc)did. The
originals had the very odd-looking frames...and it turned out those frames were
really original. In fact the fit was so bad that when I put my hard top on the
fit was very bad, but with the original frames in place....snug as whatever.
Water-tight? now what do you think....?
Peter Dzwig
Bruce Steele wrote:
> Hi listers. I an seeking some info on side curtains. When I got my
> BN7 (1960) this summer it had side curtains which reportedly had never
> been on the car. As the aluminum frames are flat channels about 1"
> wide, they are clearly not originals nor repros. I believe they were
> made when the car was restored in '89. The problem is, they don't
> fit. (I'm sure you are all shocked.) I'm curious if the frames
> themselves are too big or if the brackets are incorrectly positioned.
> In any case, they overlap the windshield pillar by at least 1/2 to 3/4
> inch. The dimensions are: Bottom 29 9/16", top (measured from a
> straight edge continued up the rear of the frame to the top front
> point) 23 1/2", height 12 7/8" at the top front and 13 1/8 at the rear
> before the curve. Would any who have curtains for a BN7 (or BN6, I
> suppose) be kind enough to compare these measurements with those of
> curtains which actually fit, and also offer any comments/tips? (I'm
> already anticipating the responses here. So, I might add, any
> comments on who has the best repros or where I may find good used or
> even NOS, if any are around, would also be appreciated.) Please reply
> off the list if you like. Thanks.
>
> Bruce
> bsteele2@pacbell.net
From "David" <david_m at radiantsoundworks.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 18:40:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Choke problems
After finishing my BJ8 rebuild this summer (including my rebuilding the
carbs), I was never happy with the choke's ability to return to normal. Off
to the hardware store....two springs mounted to two small holes in the
structure below....and now it works perfectly.
Dave
BJ8
TR4A
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Byers <byers@cconnect.net>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: Choke problems
>
> Hi, Ed --
> As Ken has already said, the common way to solve this problem is helper
> springs. I have them on my BJ8 (the car came to me this way). Some time
> ago, this was a topic of discussion on the list. It was pointed out that
> the carb design was intended to return the choke levers automatically.
When
> I had my carbs professionally rebuilt by Joe Curto, I hoped that I would
see
> some evidence of the design intent, but did not. So, I put the springs
back
> on. The professional rebuild is about as close to new carburetors as I
want
> to get.
>
> Steve Byers
> HBJ8L/36666
> Havelock, NC
> ------------------------------------
>
> Ken Freese wrote:
>
> Ed,
> Many owners have given up on the little thin wire spring that is inside
the
> carb and have installed some helper springs from the choke levers to holes
> drilled in the inner fender wells. I guess if the carbs and cables are
new,
> the original setup might work. Would you please buy some new carbs and
find
> out for us?
> Ken Freese
> 65 BJ8
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: M.E.&E.A. Driver <edriver@sk.sympatico.ca>
> To: Austin Healey list <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, November 20, 2000 2:55 PM
> Subject: Choke problems
>
>
> >
> >Hi Fellows
> >
> >Well after re-building the engine in my BJ8 and starting the run-in I've
> >noticed that I have a minor problem with the choke cables to the HD8s.
> >When the choke knob is pushed in the choke lever arms remain
> >approximately 5/8 to 3/4 inch open. I have to push down on the levers to
> >have them return to the original position. I went the additional mile,
> >removed the cables and lubricated them, and re-installed them. Same
> >problem. I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to correct this.
> >
> >Kind regards
> >Ed
> >Saskatoon
> >'65 BJ8
From Rmoment at aol.com
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:19:35 EST
Subject: 100 brake reservoir decals
Back in June or July I asked if anyone would be interested in the
original-type water transfer decals for the 100 brake reservoir. These would
have exactly correct lettering and be much more accurate than the stick-on
type currently available. At that time I estimated the price would be around
$10.00 per decal. Enough folks expressed interest that I went ahead and had
the artwork done up and located a custom decal printer. The run has been for
a limited quantity.
Well, they are finished and the price is only $5.00 per decal (including
postage), but the minimum order must be for two (you'll have a spare). I
have written out concise instructions for applying them and they look superb.
Put them on a couple of reservoirs and they look exactly like my NOS
reservoir.
I have tried to contact everyone who indicated they wanted some to let them
know the project is in its closing stage. A few people have changed their
minds and cancelled, but there may be others who would like some and were not
aware of the availability. Thus this second announcement. Certainly, the
price is not outrageous.
Please contact me directly.
Thanks,
Roger
From "Steve Byers" <byers at cconnect.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:26:15 -0500
Subject: Re: More senders
Hi, Peter --
Since the sender is basically a variable resistor, it doesn't care whether
it's hooked up to positive or negative earth. I don't know all of the
options for replacement senders that are out there, but I can say a few
words about the one for BJ8s available now from Moss Motors (p/n 021-571)
based on personal experience. I think this unit is made in Taiwan, but I'm
not sure.
The one I received worked fine for about three days, then the gauge
registered permanently empty. The problem was the plastic float that came
with the new sender had a small crack in it, the float filled up with fuel,
and sank. Moss sent another complete new sending unit and float, but on
inspection I could see that the float had a HOLE in it. Both the crack in
the first float and the hole in the second were at the end of the wire float
arm. I have since learned that others have had this same problem. I
believe that damage to the float is caused by the sharp end of the float arm
wire when the float is clipped into it.
Thanks to lister Robert Barback, I found a solution today. He told me that
a Ford float, part number COAZ-9202-B, would work. This afternoon, I went
by my local Ford dealer and discovered that for $4.14 the part number will
get you two BRASS floats, identical in every other way to the plastic floats
supplied by Moss. I also took the precaution of bending the end of the
float arm wire back slightly to avoid its digging into the float. That
might be useful to anyone else who has occasion to order a Moss sending
unit.
Happy Healeying!
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
Havelock, NC USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Dzwig <pdzwig@summaventures.com>
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, November 20, 2000 7:03 PM
Subject: More senders
>
>Listers,
>
>does anyone know of a good sender that works in a positive earthed car in
>conjunction with a new fuel gauge...I am told that there is at least one,
but
>no-one seems to know who makes it.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Peter Dzwig
From Peter Brauen <pbrauen at telepak.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 18:26:37 -0600
Subject: Re: Clutch
Hi Magnus,
Unfortunately. You may be quite annoyed with yourself if you did the
same thing I did. I always tell my customers to replace all three (or four
with the pilot bush) components at the same time (preferably with matched
components from a single manufacturer). Not being the type to follow my own
advice, I once changed the disk and bearing in my MGB/GT only to have the
exact symptoms you describe, two months later (and 100 Kilometers away).
Verdict: Collapsed diaphragm spring in the pressure plate (Ughhh!). It
worked fine with the old worn disk because as the disk wears, the center of
the plate moves further away from the disk negating the increasing
deflection of the spring. Variations in the thickness of the disk from
standard can also cause the problem. The setting on the earlier spring type
pressure plate (which is adjustable with the right equipment) can also
result in the same symptoms if the springs are weak.
Having said all that, don't overlook the clutch hydraulics. A collapsed
flexible hose or a plugged fluid return hole in the master cylinder can
result in pressure not being released completely, and extra movement on the
next application. The latter is very common on MGAs using silicone fluid
(don't get me started). But, I have yet to see it on a Healey. Hope this
helps.---Peter (BMC Restorations)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Magnus Karlsson" <healey@telia.com>
To: "Healey lista" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 5:51 PM
Subject: Clutch
>
> I recently fitted a new disc and release bearing to my clutch. The
presssure
> plate and flywheel and all other parts are the same. It works fine
> disengaging until the clutch pedal is pushed almost to the bottom. There
it
> starts to engage again, not fully, it slips and a metallic noise can be
> heard. The noise is not very loud.
>
> Since I can4t figure this one out and I4m quite sure that the disc is
> mounted facing the correct direction, is there anyone who has a clue or
has
> experienced something similar?
>
> TIA
>
> Magnus Karlsson
> SWEDEN
From "Bradley H. Simmons" <email at liquidparadigm.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 18:36:42 -0600
Subject: Out of vehicle OD + Trans testing?
I am preparing to rebuild the overdrive and transmission on my 58 BN6
... is anyone aware of a method for testing them out of the vehicle (
and without the engine attached ) ?
Thank you,
Bradley H. Simmons
1958 100-6 BN6
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:56:34 EST
Subject: Re: Choke problems
Does anybody have a set of factory service memos for the late BJ8s that might
indicate that dealers were directed to make this fix on Healeys in for
service?
Cheers
Gary
In a message dated 11/20/00 1:46:28 PM, magicare@home.com writes:
<< A split pin is installed in a hole in the inner fender and one in the
bulkhead brace, always in the same place and the end of the throttle spring
is extended with a short section of wire before it is hooked into the eye of
the split pin on the choke trunnion cable and the other end into the eye of
the lower split pin.(That sounds as clear as mud).
Anyone else seen this set up. It seems too many cars have the same set up
for it to not be a factory fix... >>
From Drtrite at aol.com
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:24:41 EST
Subject: Re: Out of vehicle OD + Trans testing?
In a message dated 11/20/00 6:42:56 PM Central Standard Time,
email@liquidparadigm.com writes:
<< is anyone aware of a method for testing them out of the vehicle (
and without the engine attached ) ? >>
Brad
Come on down to the North Texas AHC tech session and put it on our clubs
motor driven trans test stand. If you can't get here I may be able to get the
drawing or better yet a pic file I can e-mail you.
Don
NTAHC
From Dean Caccavo <healeybn7 at yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:24:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re:Healey Hot Wheels-Appeals to the Younger Crowd
Don,
Thanks for the pointer. Looks like a V8 blower
sticking out of the hood.???
I remember a thread a while back questioning whether
Healey's still appealed to the younger crowd. Well
according to the Mattel scale below the Austin Healey
rates a 7.634 (way cool) which clearly puts it in the
top of the class. The highest score was 7.697. Far
above the Lexus SC400 at 4.493(not too cool).
For your enjoyment Mattel rating scale is as follows:
10 Gotta have it!
9 Wicked cool!
8 Way cool!
7 Really cool!
6 Cool!
5 Kinda cool.
4 Not too cool.
3 Uncool.
2 Weak.
1 Peg-warmer.
And based on the other offerings it is a 10.... Just
what is a peg-warmer?
Dean
BN7
>
> Someone mentioned a little while back that Mattel
> was going to make an
> Austin Healey hot wheels car. I found this sight
> and thought some of you
> might be interested.
>
>
http://www.hotwheels.com/collectors/mainline2000/index.asp?toy_no=24391&ctr=
> 8&series=first
>
> No interest other than in Austin Healey. All other
> disclaimers apply.
>
> Don
> BN7
> God grant me the senility to forget the people I
> never liked anyway, The
> Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the
> eyesight to tell the
> difference.
__________________________________________________
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From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:50:08 -0600
Subject: Re: Healey Hot Wheels-Appeals to the Younger Crowd
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:04:59 -0600
Subject: Re: Healey Hot Wheels-Appeals to the Younger Crowd
From "Ron Schonscheck" <schonny at y2consult.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 18:04:28 -0700
Subject: Re: Choke problems
Can anyone do a picture of this issue and post it to the list?
----- Original Message -----
From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: Choke problems
>
> Does anybody have a set of factory service memos for the late BJ8s that
might
> indicate that dealers were directed to make this fix on Healeys in for
> service?
> Cheers
> Gary
>
>
> In a message dated 11/20/00 1:46:28 PM, magicare@home.com writes:
>
> << A split pin is installed in a hole in the inner fender and one in the
> bulkhead brace, always in the same place and the end of the throttle
spring
> is extended with a short section of wire before it is hooked into the eye
of
> the split pin on the choke trunnion cable and the other end into the eye
of
> the lower split pin.(That sounds as clear as mud).
> Anyone else seen this set up. It seems too many cars have the same set up
> for it to not be a factory fix... >>
From "Neil Trelenberg" <neilberg at telus.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:43:04 -0800
Subject: Re: Re:Healey Hot Wheels-Appeals to the Younger Crowd
A peg warmer is....the peg in the store where the blister packed car stays,
when no one wants one...Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Caccavo" <healeybn7@yahoo.com>
To: "Don Yarber" <dyarber@dynasty.net>; "Healey List"
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 5:24 PM
Subject: Re:Healey Hot Wheels-Appeals to the Younger Crowd
>
> Don,
> Thanks for the pointer. Looks like a V8 blower
> sticking out of the hood.???
>
> I remember a thread a while back questioning whether
> Healey's still appealed to the younger crowd. Well
> according to the Mattel scale below the Austin Healey
> rates a 7.634 (way cool) which clearly puts it in the
> top of the class. The highest score was 7.697. Far
> above the Lexus SC400 at 4.493(not too cool).
>
> For your enjoyment Mattel rating scale is as follows:
> 10 Gotta have it!
> 9 Wicked cool!
> 8 Way cool!
> 7 Really cool!
> 6 Cool!
> 5 Kinda cool.
> 4 Not too cool.
> 3 Uncool.
> 2 Weak.
> 1 Peg-warmer.
>
> And based on the other offerings it is a 10.... Just
> what is a peg-warmer?
> Dean
> BN7
>
> >
> > Someone mentioned a little while back that Mattel
> > was going to make an
> > Austin Healey hot wheels car. I found this sight
> > and thought some of you
> > might be interested.
> >
> >
>
http://www.hotwheels.com/collectors/mainline2000/index.asp?toy_no=24391&ctr=
> > 8&series=first
> >
> > No interest other than in Austin Healey. All other
> > disclaimers apply.
> >
> > Don
> > BN7
> > God grant me the senility to forget the people I
> > never liked anyway, The
> > Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the
> > eyesight to tell the
> > difference.
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free!
> http://photos.yahoo.com/
From CEWPlatt at aol.com
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:10:08 EST
Subject: California Healey Sightings
Anybody on the list own a 100 being painted in a shop located in La Habra, CA
on Palm Street?
Clay Platt
1954 100
From Magnus Karlsson <healey at telia.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:37:54 +0000
Subject: Clutch
Peter, Robert and Bill,
Thanks for your advise.
Sounds like a broken diaphragm spring to me according to what you guys said.
I don4t quite understand why it should break though. The disc I removed was
a paddle type racing disc and it came from Denis Welch. The new disc is an
uprated one but looks like the standard item and it also comes from DW. The
pressure plate is from DW and is supposed to go with either type of disc.
I already did the fix that Bill suggested and shortened the pushrod. I took
the car for a short testride and it worked but the pedal feels strangely
light. I suppose I have to get over my laziness and pull the trans again.
Would any of you guys be nice enough and elaborate over how the diaphragm
springs can break and what causes this, as I4m not sure I quite got it yet.
TIA
Magnus karlsson
From Stephen Hutchings <hutching at the-wire.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:05:41 -0500
Subject: Re; Choke problems
After reading Mike's description of what he thinks was a factory fix
for the BJ8's poor choke return performance, I realize that I had the
same arrangement on my car when I dismantled the engine back
in 1975. I thought this was someone's home fix, and didn't put it
back together that way, eventually putting my own springs in; the way
many others have done.
One more for your files, Mike!
Stephen Hutchings, BJ8
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:14:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Clutch
Magnus Karlsson wrote:
> Peter, Robert and Bill,
>
> Thanks for your advise.
>
> Sounds like a broken diaphragm spring to me according to what you guys said.
> I don4t quite understand why it should break though. The disc I removed was
> a paddle type racing disc and it came from Denis Welch. The new disc is an
> uprated one but looks like the standard item and it also comes from DW. The
> pressure plate is from DW and is supposed to go with either type of disc.
>
> I already did the fix that Bill suggested and shortened the pushrod. I took
> the car for a short testride and it worked but the pedal feels strangely
> light. I suppose I have to get over my laziness and pull the trans again.
>
> Would any of you guys be nice enough and elaborate over how the diaphragm
> springs can break and what causes this, as I4m not sure I quite got it yet.
>
> TIA
>
> Magnus karlsson
Hi Magnus,
I got into this some time back when I was having problems with TR6 competition
clutches and learned a lot.
The design of a clutch system is not quite as simple as it may at first appear.
For example, diaphragm clutches are particularly sensitive to problems with the
travel of the release bearing. The release position of the spring (which is
really a modified Belleville Washer) is affected by the thickness of the clutch
disc and will be lower than intended with a thicker than original disc.
If
a. the disc is thicker that the original maximum design dimension and the
operating system is in good condition, i.e. minimal wear and no air in the fluid
system,
or
b. the operating system has been modified to provide more than the original
travel at the slave cylinder,
the diaphragm spring will get pushed down too far . In some applications this
won't matter but in many it will result in damage to the spring, and/or disc.
Some of the spring designs are such that "flattening" too much will result in
permanent distortion or breakage of the spring and in other designs the release
bearing will push the spring all the way into the torsional coil springs or
center of the clutch plate if the above conditions are encountered.
The old story changing things from the original can present some weird results.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
From CAWS52803 at aol.com
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:39:55 EST
Subject: Hot Wheels
I received the notice here on the Healey List yesterday and was out shopping
last night. I went to Toy's R Us and looked through several hundred Hot
Wheels and not a single Healey. Does anyone know if they have been released
yet? There were plenty of the 2000 series, but not the most important one.
Of course these are for my grandchildren, not ME!
Rudy Streng
From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 07:48:16 -0800
Subject: RE: Hot Wheels
Rudy,
Apparently it is out there. If you do a search for Healey on EBay, there
will be a million of them now.
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
-----Original Message-----
From: CAWS52803@aol.com [mailto:CAWS52803@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 7:40 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Hot Wheels
I received the notice here on the Healey List yesterday and was out shopping
last night. I went to Toy's R Us and looked through several hundred Hot
Wheels and not a single Healey. Does anyone know if they have been released
yet? There were plenty of the 2000 series, but not the most important one.
Of course these are for my grandchildren, not ME!
Rudy Streng
From "JISah102" <ah102 at home.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:50:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Hot Wheels
Rudy: Check ebay. There seems to be a zillion of them on auction....
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: <CAWS52803@aol.com>
To: Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 10:39 AM
Subject: Hot Wheels
>
> I received the notice here on the Healey List yesterday and was out
shopping
> last night. I went to Toy's R Us and looked through several hundred Hot
> Wheels and not a single Healey. Does anyone know if they have been
released
> yet? There were plenty of the 2000 series, but not the most important
one.
> Of course these are for my grandchildren, not ME!
> Rudy Streng
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:31:08 -0600
Subject: Choke problems - thanks
Hi Fellows
I wish to thank Mike Salter, Steve Byers, Doug Reid (aka Mr.
Finespanner), Steve Jowett, Neil Trelenberg, John Loftus, Ken Freese to
mention just a few and to the others for their responses.
Mike raised a very interesting issue in suggesting that the "choke
return springs" may have been a late modification from the factory. In
response to this comment Gary (Anderson) asked if anyone has "factory
service memos" which directed dealers to do this fix. Well this piqued
my curiosity so I made a phone call. In the discussion I had with Bill
Bressington, founder and owner of Midel Pty Ltd, I asked about HD8's
and the choke problem. Bill's comments I paraphrase here: a.) the
springs on new HD8s are light, weak, and do not return the choke to the
closed position very well; b.) the choke cable layout on BJ8s is poor
compared to Jags with HD8s here it has to do with the angle of the
cables on the Healey; and c.) to his knowledge he knows the "choke
return spring" was not a factory modification but he can not speak to
the "service memo" issue.
Last winter on a different issue I exchanged e-mail with Rich Chrysler
regarding the historical data that might be available from BMC (Canada)
which was located at Hamilton, Ontario, not too far from where Rich
hangs his hat. Rich informed me that unfortunately for us Healey folk
the Canadian records were destroyed. Now whether BMC (USA) records exist
or whether "service memos" are stored by a former dealer - would as Gary
wonders add further knowledge to our marque and also provide another
useful addition to the concours guide.
Again to all thanks very much for taking the time to reply I've sure
learned a great deal in the last 24 hours.
Kind regards
Ed
Saskatoon
'65 BJ8
From "Don Yarber" <dyarber at dynasty.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:31:45 -0600
Subject: Side Curtain measurements for BN7
I have the original side curtains on my BN7 and will try to convey the
measurements thereof:
base = 29 1/2 inches
height at highest point = 13 1/8 inches
height at lowest point = 13 inches
length of front diagonal = 15 inches
front mounting bracket is 3 3/8 inches from foremost point to center of
hole.
front mounting bracket is 3 3/4 inches from foremost point going up to
center of hole.
rear mounting bracket is 1 5/8 inch from rearmost point to center of hole
rear mounting bracket is 3 inches going up from rearmost point to center of
hole.
If it helps any, I purchased some lengths of rubber seal that has a 7/16"
bulb and 1 1/2" flange. I placed the seal along the edges and used a piece
of 1" x 1/16" aluminum strip on top of the seal and # 8 x 1/2 inch sheet
metal screws to secure it. at the point where the two strips of seal meet
(on the foremost point) I notched the vertical seal by about 3/4 of an inch
(removed the "bulb") and folded the flange over and secured it with heavy
duty rubber cement. The resulting "fix" is very tight, fits (behind) the
windshield post and when the brackets are attached securely it provides a
tight fit along the top edge of the door.
I know this would never pass the "concours" test, but it will provide you
with a relatively inexpensive fix to keep the rain out of your car.
If I can be of further help, please e-mail me.
Don
BN7
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The
Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the
difference.
From "Neil Trelenberg" <neilberg at telus.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 08:40:11 -0800
Subject: Re: Hot Wheels
Rudy, of course....I was told that particular one has not been released yet,
in Canada anyway. I was going to buy one for my daughters as well...Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: <CAWS52803@aol.com>
To: "Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 7:39 AM
Subject: Hot Wheels
>
> I received the notice here on the Healey List yesterday and was out
shopping
> last night. I went to Toy's R Us and looked through several hundred Hot
> Wheels and not a single Healey. Does anyone know if they have been
released
> yet? There were plenty of the 2000 series, but not the most important
one.
> Of course these are for my grandchildren, not ME!
> Rudy Streng
From "David Ward" <david at bighealey.ltd.uk>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 07:04:39 -0000
Subject: EX Works Healey 3000 Auction
Listers, I have just found out that in February 2001 the Ex Works 1964
Austin Healey 3000, 767 KNX is coming up for Auction. When I have more
details I will let you know and will publish them on my WEB Site.
Regards
David
David Ward
Big Healey
Tel: +44 1623 871908
Fax: +44 1623 871908
E-Mail: david@bighealey.ltd.uk
http://www.bighealey.ltd.uk
From WilKo at aol.com
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:41:12 EST
Subject: Re: Hot Wheels
Yes, The Healey is released.
First edition Healeys are all over ebay. They are Black with Grey sides, Big
HotWheel looking mags, and what looks (in the pictures, i've not seen one in
the flesh) like a Hotwheels style V8 engine with a blower-no bonnet. 2-seater
body, folded down windscreen. I've not seen the grill yet...
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=505368933
Rick
San Diego
In a message dated 11/21/00 7:42:45 AM, CAWS52803@aol.com writes:
<<
I received the notice here on the Healey List yesterday and was out shopping
last night. I went to Toy's R Us and looked through several hundred Hot
Wheels and not a single Healey. Does anyone know if they have been released
yet? There were plenty of the 2000 series, but not the most important one.
Of course these are for my grandchildren, not ME!
Rudy Streng
From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:55:58 -0800
Subject: Healey curser
The animated Healey curser web page seems to have moved. Does someone have
the software or know of a new address for Amy Turner?
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
From "Peter Schauss" <schauss at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 21:39:51 -0500
Subject: RE: Out of vehicle OD + Trans testing?
Bruce Phillips at the Healey Surgeons has a setup
which uses an electric motor to spin the overdrive
so that he can test the pressure and operation.
I don't believe that you can test a gearbox without
putting a load on it (i.e. putting it in the car and
driving it). That said, the Healey gearbox is
pretty basic, just follow the instructions in the
shop manual and replace any parts that are questionable.
Peter Schauss
Long Island, NY
1980 MGB
1963 BJ7
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-healeys@autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-healeys@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Bradley H. Simmons
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 7:37 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Out of vehicle OD + Trans testing?
I am preparing to rebuild the overdrive and transmission on my 58 BN6
... is anyone aware of a method for testing them out of the vehicle (
and without the engine attached ) ?
Thank you,
Bradley H. Simmons
1958 100-6 BN6
From "Amy Turner" <ltturner at usit.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:20:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Healey curser
Hi there! Yes, the cursor has moved. It's now at the Smoky Mountain
Austin-Healey Club's web site: http://smahc.tripod.com/cursors.html
Sorry I've been so quiet for so long, but I'm peeking in from time to time!
Amy
----- Original Message -----
From: Freese, Ken <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
To: 'healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 4:55 PM
Subject: Healey curser
>
> The animated Healey curser web page seems to have moved. Does someone have
> the software or know of a new address for Amy Turner?
> Ken Freese
> 65 BJ8
From MOWOGMAN at aol.com
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:28:23 EST
Subject: Re: Hot Wheels
In a message dated 11/21/00 12:18:28 PM Central Standard Time,
neilberg@telus.net writes:
> I was told that particular one has not been released yet,
>
I've been looking as well, and it would appear it is not released yet.
There is a Mini as well which I haven't found yet either. Both cars are in
the 30's (number 32 and 34? out of 36?) , since I've seen #27, I'm assuming
"our" cars will be out soon. There is also an Anglia truck/van and a Lotus
Elise in there somewhere! I'll post when they start to show up.
By the way, the lady at Toys R us said that they seem to come at random in
big boxes from the mfg. So her advice was to keep lookin!
John
Oostburg, WI
'60 BT7
'60 Mini
'80 TR7 (freshly repainted Carmine red!)
'69 AA
'57 Isetta
Etc.
From "Ron Schonscheck" <schonny at y2consult.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:30:49 -0700
Subject: Re: Choke problems - thanks
Wow the worth of this list shows itself again. In the past couple of years
I have raised this choke questions on several occasions and gotten no
response. Perhaps I didn't phrase it correctly or maybe the timing just
wasn't such that any replies were forthcoming but now here it is and I am
grateful for the enlightenment. I have always wondered about the poor
performance of the chokes on my BJ8 and now I know that there isn't anything
wrong. Once someone did mention using clothpins to hold the choke out which
counteracted the springs and I have done that and they do in fact work well.
Thanks listers and to those of you who celebrate Thanksgiving have a good
one.
----- Original Message -----
From: "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: "Austin Healey list" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 10:31 AM
Subject: Choke problems - thanks
>
> Hi Fellows
>
> I wish to thank Mike Salter, Steve Byers, Doug Reid (aka Mr.
> Finespanner), Steve Jowett, Neil Trelenberg, John Loftus, Ken Freese to
> mention just a few and to the others for their responses.
>
> Mike raised a very interesting issue in suggesting that the "choke
> return springs" may have been a late modification from the factory. In
> response to this comment Gary (Anderson) asked if anyone has "factory
> service memos" which directed dealers to do this fix. Well this piqued
> my curiosity so I made a phone call. In the discussion I had with Bill
> Bressington, founder and owner of Midel Pty Ltd, I asked about HD8's
> and the choke problem. Bill's comments I paraphrase here: a.) the
> springs on new HD8s are light, weak, and do not return the choke to the
> closed position very well; b.) the choke cable layout on BJ8s is poor
> compared to Jags with HD8s here it has to do with the angle of the
> cables on the Healey; and c.) to his knowledge he knows the "choke
> return spring" was not a factory modification but he can not speak to
> the "service memo" issue.
>
> Last winter on a different issue I exchanged e-mail with Rich Chrysler
> regarding the historical data that might be available from BMC (Canada)
> which was located at Hamilton, Ontario, not too far from where Rich
> hangs his hat. Rich informed me that unfortunately for us Healey folk
> the Canadian records were destroyed. Now whether BMC (USA) records exist
> or whether "service memos" are stored by a former dealer - would as Gary
> wonders add further knowledge to our marque and also provide another
> useful addition to the concours guide.
>
> Again to all thanks very much for taking the time to reply I've sure
> learned a great deal in the last 24 hours.
>
> Kind regards
> Ed
> Saskatoon
> '65 BJ8
From "Dave BOWERS" <BOWERSDA at uvsc.edu>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 06:25:57 -0700
Subject: cute animated political cartoon
Sorry, I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I just got this and had
to
share it with those of you I think might appreciate it a good joke.
FWIW:
www.crosscircuit.com/html/camp2000/ballot.html
Dave B^)
56 BN2
From Trmgafun at aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:47:16 EST
Subject: BJ8 For Sale
Hi all,
For anyone interested, please contact Raf, not me.
1967 Austin-Healey BJ8 for sale. The car is located in Belgium, Europe.
Ice Blue, leather, blue mohair top, first class restoration in show room
condition, balanced engine, overdrive, 72 spoke wire wheels.
Price $29,000 (U.S. dollars)
Contact Raf Govaerts at: raf.govaerts@planetinternet.be
Or telephone at: 003286321354
From "Browning David (TVCS)" <BrowningD at tce.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:48:00 -0500
Subject: 60/72-spokes on BN1
The Moss catalog states that 60 and 72 spoke wheels won't work on BN1's, but
I've seen lots of pictures of BN1/2's with these. Is there a mod that is
done to make this fit? Mine is a '55 BN1. I'm curious, too, if the
minilite type wheels they sell will work?
Thanks,
David B.
'55 BN1 227526
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 06:19:09 -0800
Subject: RE: cute animated political cartoon
NEW TELEVISION SHOW!
Network television is developing a "Texas Version"
of "Survivor", the popular TV show. Contestants must
travel from Amarillo through Fort Worth, Dallas,
Houston, San Antonio, and back to Amarillo, through
San
Marcos and Lubbock ..... driving a Volvo with a bumper
sticker that reads:
"I'm for Gore, I'm Gay, and I'm Here to Take Your
Guns"
The Winner is the first to safely make the roundtrip.
Jonathan Lane
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave BOWERS [mailto:BOWERSDA@uvsc.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 5:26 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: cute animated political cartoon
Sorry, I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I just got this and had
to
share it with those of you I think might appreciate it a good joke.
FWIW:
www.crosscircuit.com/html/camp2000/ballot.html
Dave B^)
56 BN2
From John Trifari <john4 at home.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:03:03 -0800
Subject: Re: 60/72-spokes on BN1
David--I've had 72-spokers on my 1955 BN1 since 1995. Don't know what Moss is
talking about. I'm using 185-15 Yokohama tires (originally 185-15 Rikons).
Don't know about Minilites. John Trifari 1955 BN1/1965 BJ8
"Browning David (TVCS)" wrote:
> The Moss catalog states that 60 and 72 spoke wheels won't work on BN1's, but
> I've seen lots of pictures of BN1/2's with these. Is there a mod that is
> done to make this fit? Mine is a '55 BN1. I'm curious, too, if the
> minilite type wheels they sell will work?
>
> Thanks,
> David B.
> '55 BN1 227526
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:27:54 -0800
Subject: RE: 60/72-spokes on BN1
In our experience, 72 spoke wheels typically hit the front brake drums.
While there may be cases where they don't we certainly can't take that
chance. It is a liability problem that we don't want to play with. My
suggestion would be to find a friend with some 72s and try them out. Put
some grease or something on the edge of the brake drum and if you end up
with grease on your spokes then don't use them. If not, it is up to you
whether you want to take the chance or not.
As for the minilites, you have me scratching my head and looking into it. I
think they should work fine, but I'll check deeper and let you know.
Jonathan Lane
-----Original Message-----
From: John Trifari [mailto:john4@home.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 10:03 PM
To: Browning David (TVCS); healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: 60/72-spokes on BN1
David--I've had 72-spokers on my 1955 BN1 since 1995. Don't know what Moss
is
talking about. I'm using 185-15 Yokohama tires (originally 185-15 Rikons).
Don't know about Minilites. John Trifari 1955 BN1/1965 BJ8
"Browning David (TVCS)" wrote:
> The Moss catalog states that 60 and 72 spoke wheels won't work on BN1's,
but
> I've seen lots of pictures of BN1/2's with these. Is there a mod that is
> done to make this fit? Mine is a '55 BN1. I'm curious, too, if the
> minilite type wheels they sell will work?
>
> Thanks,
> David B.
> '55 BN1 227526
From "Don Yarber" <dyarber at dynasty.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:00:17 -0600
Subject: Grease on Brake Drums??
Jonathan Lane wrote
>Put
some grease or something on the edge of the brake drum and if you end up
with grease on your spokes then don't use them. If not, it is up to you
whether you want to take the chance or not.<
I wouldn't recommend putting grease on a brake drum. Try chalk, like the
kind used in chalk lines.
Don
BN7
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The
Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the
difference.
From WilKo at aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:14:14 EST
Subject: Re: 60/72-spokes on BN1
This discussion has been here many times in the over 5 years that I've been
reading this list.
The number of spokes has nothing to do with whether the wheels will fit.
there are so many variables to consider such as the rim width and the offset
of the hub. Any decent wheel distributor should be able to tell you the
dimensions that are relevant. offset or backspacing are the key measurements
that you need to know as to whether the wheel will clear your drums. of
course, if you get to far out you risk rubbing the arches...atc.
Good luck
Rick
San Diego
In a message dated 11/22/00 10:06:24 AM, john4@home.com writes:
<< David--I've had 72-spokers on my 1955 BN1 since 1995. Don't know what
Moss is
talking about. I'm using 185-15 Yokohama tires (originally 185-15 Rikons).
Don't know about Minilites. John Trifari 1955 BN1/1965 BJ8
"Browning David (TVCS)" wrote:
> The Moss catalog states that 60 and 72 spoke wheels won't work on BN1's, but
> I've seen lots of pictures of BN1/2's with these. Is there a mod that is
> done to make this fit? Mine is a '55 BN1. I'm curious, too, if the
> minilite type wheels they sell will work?
>
> Thanks,
> David B.
> '55 BN1 227526 >>
From "Lee S. Mairs" <lmairs at cox.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:37:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Hot Wheels
What are the Healey Hot Wheels supposed to sell for?
---
Lee Mairs
I took a speed-reading course and read War and Peace in twenty minutes.
It involves Russia.
--Woody Allen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Freese, Ken" <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
To: <CAWS52803@aol.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: Hot Wheels
>
> Rudy,
> Apparently it is out there. If you do a search for Healey on EBay, there
> will be a million of them now.
> Ken Freese
> 65 BJ8
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CAWS52803@aol.com [mailto:CAWS52803@aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 7:40 AM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Hot Wheels
>
>
>
> I received the notice here on the Healey List yesterday and was out
shopping
>
> last night. I went to Toy's R Us and looked through several hundred Hot
> Wheels and not a single Healey. Does anyone know if they have been
released
>
> yet? There were plenty of the 2000 series, but not the most important
one.
>
> Of course these are for my grandchildren, not ME!
> Rudy Streng
From JMcD206 at aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:09:57 EST
Subject: Re: Hot Wheels
About $.99!
Jim McDermott
BN4
In a message dated Wed, 22 Nov 2000 4:36:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Lee
S. Mairs" <lmairs@cox.rr.com> writes:
<<
What are the Healey Hot Wheels supposed to sell for?
---
Lee Mairs
I took a speed-reading course and read War and Peace in twenty minutes.
It involves Russia.
--Woody Allen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Freese, Ken" <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
To: <CAWS52803@aol.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: Hot Wheels
>
> Rudy,
> Apparently it is out there. If you do a search for Healey on EBay, there
> will be a million of them now.
> Ken Freese
> 65 BJ8
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CAWS52803@aol.com [mailto:CAWS52803@aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 7:40 AM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Hot Wheels
>
>
>
> I received the notice here on the Healey List yesterday and was out
shopping
>
> last night. I went to Toy's R Us and looked through several hundred Hot
> Wheels and not a single Healey. Does anyone know if they have been
released
>
> yet? There were plenty of the 2000 series, but not the most important
one.
>
> Of course these are for my grandchildren, not ME!
> Rudy Streng
From RAntal243 at aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:10:44 EST
Subject: Left hand bolt
Hi Guys,
The mechanism that holds open the passenger door on my '65 BJ8 cannot be
tightened because the left hand threaded bolt is stripped. Does anyone know
where I might be able to find one? A machine shop will be able to weld it
onto the bracket. Thanks for your help.
Rich Antal
From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:24:12 -0800
Subject: RE: Left hand bolt
Rich,
Same problem with my LH door a few weeks ago. I removed the old bolt by
grinding and am planning to install a new one but my old one is not left
hand threads. I bet you could install a right hand thread bolt with some
Loctite and wouldn't know the difference.
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
-----Original Message-----
From: RAntal243@aol.com [mailto:RAntal243@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 2:11 PM
To: Healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Left hand bolt
Hi Guys,
The mechanism that holds open the passenger door on my '65 BJ8 cannot
be
tightened because the left hand threaded bolt is stripped. Does anyone know
where I might be able to find one? A machine shop will be able to weld it
onto the bracket. Thanks for your help.
Rich Antal
From "Neil Trelenberg" <neilberg at telus.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:08:54 -0800
Subject: Re: Left hand bolt
Thread it in from the other side.... :-)....Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Freese, Ken" <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
To: <RAntal243@aol.com>; <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 2:24 PM
Subject: RE: Left hand bolt
>
> Rich,
> Same problem with my LH door a few weeks ago. I removed the old bolt by
> grinding and am planning to install a new one but my old one is not left
> hand threads. I bet you could install a right hand thread bolt with some
> Loctite and wouldn't know the difference.
> Ken Freese
> 65 BJ8
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RAntal243@aol.com [mailto:RAntal243@aol.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 2:11 PM
> To: Healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Left hand bolt
>
>
>
> Hi Guys,
> The mechanism that holds open the passenger door on my '65 BJ8 cannot
> be
> tightened because the left hand threaded bolt is stripped. Does anyone
know
> where I might be able to find one? A machine shop will be able to weld it
> onto the bracket. Thanks for your help.
> Rich Antal
From Peter Brauen <pbrauen at telepak.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:48:49 -0600
Subject: Re: Left hand bolt
Hi Ken,
Unfortunately, replacing the bolt with a right hand thread one would
defeat the purpose of the item as it would no longer tighten as the door is
opened and thus would not hold the door open. A left-hand-thread bolt is
commonly available from hardware stores that sell parts for worm drive saws
as the blade is held on by just such a bolt. Now as to the nut, I'm not sure
if they'll have that, but they may. They will likely be coarse thread, but
that may make it work better. The only other option is to find a good used
assembly, or shell out the $60 for a new one. Good luck!---Peter (BMC
Restorations)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Freese, Ken" <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
To: <RAntal243@aol.com>; <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: Left hand bolt
>
> Rich,
> Same problem with my LH door a few weeks ago. I removed the old bolt by
> grinding and am planning to install a new one but my old one is not left
> hand threads. I bet you could install a right hand thread bolt with some
> Loctite and wouldn't know the difference.
> Ken Freese
> 65 BJ8
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RAntal243@aol.com [mailto:RAntal243@aol.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 2:11 PM
> To: Healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Left hand bolt
>
>
>
> Hi Guys,
> The mechanism that holds open the passenger door on my '65 BJ8 cannot
> be
> tightened because the left hand threaded bolt is stripped. Does anyone
know
> where I might be able to find one? A machine shop will be able to weld it
> onto the bracket. Thanks for your help.
> Rich Antal
From John Trifari <john4 at home.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 04:34:04 -0800
Subject: Re: 60/72-spokes on BN1
Jonathan--I have had many comments on the 72-spoke wheels on my BN1 over the
past 5 years or so, but this is the first time that I have ever heard of an
issue of the wheels hitting the brake drums. First, it would appear to me that
if this indeed happened, the wheels would not seat properly and the knock offs
could not be properly tightened. Anyone who mounted wheels under these
circumstances would not need grease on the drums to tell him (her) that this was
not, as MS would say, "a good thing." Second, all I can do is report to the list
the results that I have attained. I purchased my 72-spoke wheels from BritWire
Wheel. Perhaps the Moss product does not seat properly and would be a potential
source of liability for them. The BWW product in my experience does seat
properly. John Trifari 1955 BN1 with 72-spoke wheels.
"Lane, Jonathan" wrote:
> In our experience, 72 spoke wheels typically hit the front brake drums.
> While there may be cases where they don't we certainly can't take that
> chance. It is a liability problem that we don't want to play with. My
> suggestion would be to find a friend with some 72s and try them out. Put
> some grease or something on the edge of the brake drum and if you end up
> with grease on your spokes then don't use them. If not, it is up to you
> whether you want to take the chance or not.
>
> As for the minilites, you have me scratching my head and looking into it. I
> think they should work fine, but I'll check deeper and let you know.
>
> Jonathan Lane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Trifari [mailto:john4@home.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 10:03 PM
> To: Browning David (TVCS); healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: 60/72-spokes on BN1
>
> David--I've had 72-spokers on my 1955 BN1 since 1995. Don't know what Moss
> is
> talking about. I'm using 185-15 Yokohama tires (originally 185-15 Rikons).
> Don't know about Minilites. John Trifari 1955 BN1/1965 BJ8
>
> "Browning David (TVCS)" wrote:
>
> > The Moss catalog states that 60 and 72 spoke wheels won't work on BN1's,
> but
> > I've seen lots of pictures of BN1/2's with these. Is there a mod that is
> > done to make this fit? Mine is a '55 BN1. I'm curious, too, if the
> > minilite type wheels they sell will work?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David B.
> > '55 BN1 227526
From John Trifari <john4 at home.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 04:40:09 -0800
Subject: Re: 60/72-spokes on BN1
DB--I got the wheels at British Wire Wheel in Watsonville CA. They are Dayton
#459s. John Trifari
"Browning David (TVCS)" wrote:
> Thanks for the response,
>
> Where did you get your 72-spokes? (What brand?)
>
> thanks
> dB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Trifari [mailto:john4@home.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 1:03 AM
> To: Browning David (TVCS); healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: 60/72-spokes on BN1
>
> David--I've had 72-spokers on my 1955 BN1 since 1995. Don't know what Moss
> is
> talking about. I'm using 185-15 Yokohama tires (originally 185-15 Rikons).
> Don't know about Minilites. John Trifari 1955 BN1/1965 BJ8
>
> "Browning David (TVCS)" wrote:
>
> > The Moss catalog states that 60 and 72 spoke wheels won't work on BN1's,
> but
> > I've seen lots of pictures of BN1/2's with these. Is there a mod that is
> > done to make this fit? Mine is a '55 BN1. I'm curious, too, if the
> > minilite type wheels they sell will work?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David B.
> > '55 BN1 227526
From "Brad Weldon" <brad at bradw.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:40:05 -0800
Subject: healey in cigarette ad cir. 1957
On the backcover of the November 26,1957 issue of LOOK Magazine, an
advertisement by Oasis brand cigarettes by Liggett and Myers Tobacco Co.
features an Austin-Healey in the background and another british car in the
foreground.
Thought some of you might like to see it.
http://bradw.com/healey/oasis.shtml
Brad
'55 Hundred
BN1 #226796
From JSoderling at aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:05:38 EST
Subject: Re: Left hand bolt
In a message dated 11/22/00 2:27:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com writes:
<< and threads. I bet you could install a right hand thread bolt with some
Loctite and wouldn't know the difference.
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
>>
You could probably do that, but it would not work the same. With a left hand
threaded bolt, the check strap assembly arm tightens down on the friction
disc as the door is opened wider. This is what holds the door open while you
exit.
John
100-Six Erika the Red
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:10:28 EST
Subject: Re: 60/72-spokes on BN1
In a message dated 11/22/2000 6:34:53 PM Central Standard Time,
john4@home.com writes:
> <<...but this is the first time that I have ever heard of an
> issue of the wheels hitting the brake drums...>>
OLD, John, old. Different offsets. BWW knows all about it. Which, is of
course, how come they sell lots of them for the BN-1s<G>!!
Cheers........
Ed
From Roland Wilhelmy <rwil at cts.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:15:11 -0800
Subject: Re: Left hand bolt
I had the same problem a while ago and found the answer. Yes, you do
need a left hand thread for the right hand door so that the hold-open
tension will increase as you open the door. With a right hand thread
on the right hand door you will get a non-functioning part. Here is
the email I saved and followed up on. Drill out and grind off the old
bolt and weld in the new one, and Bob's your uncle :-) By the way the
nut is a bit special but a regular left hand nut will do even if it
doesn't have the step down shoulder on it.
:: To: shop talk mailing list <shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net>, rwil@cts.com
:: Subject: RE: looking for left-hand threaded bolt and nut
:: From: Mark Miller <markm@tutsys.com>
:: Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:47:32 -0700
::
:: Mc Master-Carr has 'em. Look up left nut (I LOVED typing that) and the same
:: for bolts. They also have LH studs.
::
:: mark Miller
:: I don't work for them but I love their catalog and website.
:: > ----------
:: > From: rwil@cts.com[SMTP:rwil@cts.com]
:: > Reply To: rwil@cts.com
:: > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 12:45 AM
:: > To: shop-talk@autox.team.net
:: > Subject: looking for left-hand threaded bolt and nut
:: >
:: >
:: > the right hand door check mechanism on my Austin Healey uses a 5/16"
:: > coarse left hand threaded bolt and nut.
:: >
:: > ( Actually the original is a sort of welded in stud, but a bolt or
:: > stud would weld in to replace it. It has to be left hand threaded to
:: > increase the friction as the door opens more, thus holding the door
:: > open wherever you want it to. My bolt and nut are stripped beyond
:: > repair.)
:: >
:: > My local fastener supplier in San Diego doesn't stock left hand stuff.
:: > Any suggestions of sources? I only need one, but would buy a small
:: > quantity of bolt and nut if that is what it takes. The alternatives
:: > are to forget about a door check or to pay $60 for a whole new
:: > assembly.
:: >
:: > -Roland
:: >
Have fun,
-Roland
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:10:44 EST, RAntal243@aol.com wrote:
::
:: Hi Guys,
:: The mechanism that holds open the passenger door on my '65 BJ8 cannot
:be
:: tightened because the left hand threaded bolt is stripped. Does anyone know
:: where I might be able to find one? A machine shop will be able to weld it
:: onto the bracket. Thanks for your help.
:: Rich Antal
From Roland Wilhelmy <rwil at cts.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:17:01 -0800
Subject: Re: Left hand bolt (add'l comment)
Make sure you weld the bolt through the bracket in the right
direction. Don't ask me how I know this :-)
-Roland
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:10:44 EST, RAntal243@aol.com wrote:
::
:: Hi Guys,
:: The mechanism that holds open the passenger door on my '65 BJ8 cannot
:be
:: tightened because the left hand threaded bolt is stripped. Does anyone know
:: where I might be able to find one? A machine shop will be able to weld it
:: onto the bracket. Thanks for your help.
:: Rich Antal
From "Steve Byers" <byers at cconnect.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:01:09 -0500
Subject: Hundred for sale in Wilmington, NC
Hello Healeyphiles!
A recent acquaintance has a 100-4 for sale. I don't have any details
about it other than it is located in Wilmington, NC. If interested, contact
Ed Hartz at Violetsone@aol.com
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
Havelock, NC USA
From "David Masucci" <david_m at radiantsoundworks.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:41:00 -0500
Subject: Austin Healey 4000
Happy Turkey Day Healey People!
I have always fantasized of owning one of the two or three (not sure of the
actual number) Healey 4000 prototypes that I have read about in various
Healey books. I think the added 6 inches of width really gives the Healey
shape some serious muscle. Now please...don't gripe about that statement,
yes your Healey looks nice and muscular too!! The 4000 looks ALL Healey (to
me)....just like MORE Healey. Damn....I'd love one of those in the garage!
In gloss black!!!
What I was wondering is this: Has anyone ever built a copy of the 4000?
Others have recreated certain works type of Healeys using normal models as
donors. It seems that it's a do-able project. adding 6 inches of filler
metal to all structures down the middle of the car. It used a Rolls Royce
in-line six which I assume can be found. Changing the track width of a rear
end is done all the time. I guess the hardest parts would be the less
structural items. The windshield and it's frame...the convertible top...the
grill surround, etc. Heck I think the frame and sheetmetal work would be a
breeze really. Actually this would not add a lot of work to a full frame up
resto. Relative to the real work involved in a full restoration, it would
only add minor extra work. I guess the purists might shudder and call this a
butchering of a Healey, but of any of the major modifications that can be
done to a car, this would certainly hold true to what DMH had in his mind
back then. I think he would have loved to see this done to a few of our cars
during the years.
So it seems feasible that someone could in fact recreate a pretty darn close
copy of a 4000 Healey. I think that would be really cool.....maybe someday
I'll take that on. Yea...I can dream!!! Then again.....Maybe...
Thoughts?
Dave
BJ8 (normal width)
TR4A
From William Moyer <William.Moyer at millersv.edu>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:37:32 -0500
Subject: RE: Left hand bolt
This is what holds the door open
while you
exit.
< The door stays open while you exit????!!!???
Bill Moyer, BJ7
From "Quinn, Patrick" <Patrick.QUINN at det.nsw.edu.au>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:17:00 +1100
Subject: Re: Austin Healey 4000
Greetings
When they were first built there were six AH 4000 chassis laid down. Two
cars
were completed originally and both of these are in the UK. Later a third was
completed but was severely damaged in an accident in Wales. This car was
rebuilt with one of the spare chassis and that car is now in Australia.
The remaining two chassis are with the owner of one of the cars in the UK.
For some years it was rumoured that an expatriate Australian living in the
UK
had built a number of replicas but I cannot vouch for it. However a replica
was featured in one of the UK classic car magazines a year or so back.
Having driven the 4000 here in Australia I can say that it is a delightful
car, but it just didn't have the urgency or get up and go that an AH has. I
always wonder what would it had been like if the twin-cam cylinder head 4
litre engine ever made it into the car. That would be something else again.
I don't know what it's like in North America but the 4 litre Rolls-Royce
engine can be found here. It's the same engine as fitted to the Van Dan Plas
Princess.
Regards
Patrick Quinn
Sydney, Australia
1947 Healey Duncan Saloon
1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1
ps. I know that we unfortunate antipodeans have to suffer with the hand made
Austin-Healeys but we also sadly don't celebrate Thanksgiving, and besides
I'm
not that keen on turkey.
>>> David Masucci 23/11/00 14:41:00 >>>
Happy Turkey Day Healey People!
I have always fantasized of owning one of the two or three (not sure of the
actual number) Healey 4000 prototypes that I have read about in various
Healey books. I think the added 6 inches of width really gives the Healey
shape some serious muscle. Now please...don't gripe about that statement,
yes your Healey looks nice and muscular too!! The 4000 looks ALL Healey (to
me)....just like MORE Healey. Damn....I'd love one of those in the garage!
In gloss black!!!
What I was wondering is this: Has anyone ever built a copy of the 4000?
Others have recreated certain works type of Healeys using normal models as
donors. It seems that it's a do-able project. adding 6 inches of filler
metal to all structures down the middle of the car. It used a Rolls Royce
in-line six which I assume can be found. Changing the track width of a rear
end is done all the time. I guess the hardest parts would be the less
structural items. The windshield and it's frame...the convertible top...the
grill surround, etc. Heck I think the frame and sheetmetal work would be a
breeze really. Actually this would not add a lot of work to a full frame up
resto. Relative to the real work involved in a full restoration, it would
only add minor extra work. I guess the purists might shudder and call this a
butchering of a Healey, but of any of the major modifications that can be
done to a car, this would certainly hold true to what DMH had in his mind
back then. I think he would have loved to see this done to a few of our cars
during the years.
So it seems feasible that someone could in fact recreate a pretty darn close
copy of a 4000 Healey. I think that would be really cool.....maybe someday
I'll take that on. Yea...I can dream!!! Then again.....Maybe...
Thoughts?
Dave
BJ8 (normal width)
TR4A
From "Greg Bankin" <gregbankin at primus.com.au>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 17:04:38 +1000
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving
Happy Thanksgiving to all our northern friends for down under.
Greg Bankin
gregbankin@primus.com.au
Sunshine Coast
Queensland
Australia
'58 BN4
From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:56:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Austin Healey 4000
Dave,
There is (was?) indeed a replica 4000 made from a 3000 some years ago. It
was made by Keith Clapham who lives in Birmingham (or perhaps more
technically, one of Birmingham's suburbs). I saw it myself when it was
still awaiting installation of the drivetrain. This was some years ago and
I don't remember precisely when (could have been 1989, but I'm really not
sure at all), but the project was hush-hush as the car was to be debuted at
one of the AHCUK's big annual meets. I never did hear any follow-up on the
whole thing and I don't know what became of the debut or the car.
By the way, Keith owns a few 100S cars (who's counting?), and he does very
high quality work on Healeys in the UK. I don't think he advertises and he
would be almost completely unknown to American enthsuiasts because of that
and his low-key style. He's somewhat of a well-kept secret.
Matter of fact, if you get Austin-Healey Magazine (and if you don't, you
realy should! www.healey.org ), check out my photo at the top of my column
in every issue. The car I'm sitting in is one of Keith's 100S's. I was on
a visit to England in 1998 with chums Gary Palgrove and Herman Farrer, and
our host John Wheatley accompanied us to Keith's place to see the latest
projects. Keith even let me and Herman drive a freshly restored 100S (down
the driveway, anyway!) for a photo-op.
If you're really serious about making a 4000 replica, let me know and I'll
get you in contact with Keith. The one he made is probably the only one
ever made, so he'd be the authority.
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
2 x BN2
1 x AN5
http://www.healey.org
http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:41:00 -0500, David Masucci wrote:
> Happy Turkey Day Healey People!
>
> I have always fantasized of owning one of the two or three (not sure of
the
> actual number) Healey 4000 prototypes that I have read about in various
> Healey books. I think the added 6 inches of width really gives the Healey
> shape some serious muscle. Now please...don't gripe about that statement,
> yes your Healey looks nice and muscular too!! The 4000 looks ALL Healey
(to
> me)....just like MORE Healey. Damn....I'd love one of those in the
garage!
> In gloss black!!!
>
> What I was wondering is this: Has anyone ever built a copy of the 4000?
> Others have recreated certain works type of Healeys using normal models
as
> donors. It seems that it's a do-able project. adding 6 inches of filler
> metal to all structures down the middle of the car. It used a Rolls Royce
> in-line six which I assume can be found. Changing the track width of a
rear
> end is done all the time. I guess the hardest parts would be the less
> structural items. The windshield and it's frame...the convertible
top...the
> grill surround, etc. Heck I think the frame and sheetmetal work would be
a
> breeze really. Actually this would not add a lot of work to a full frame
up
> resto. Relative to the real work involved in a full restoration, it would
> only add minor extra work. I guess the purists might shudder and call
this a
> butchering of a Healey, but of any of the major modifications that can be
> done to a car, this would certainly hold true to what DMH had in his mind
> back then. I think he would have loved to see this done to a few of our
cars
> during the years.
>
> So it seems feasible that someone could in fact recreate a pretty darn
close
> copy of a 4000 Healey. I think that would be really cool.....maybe
someday
> I'll take that on. Yea...I can dream!!! Then again.....Maybe...
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Dave
>
> BJ8 (normal width)
> TR4A
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From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 03:04:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Austin Healey 4000
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:17:00 +1100, Quinn, Patrick wrote:
<< For some years it was rumoured that an expatriate Australian living in
the UK had built a number of replicas but I cannot vouch for it. >>
Well heck Pat, if you listen to some of our UK brethen (and sisteren),
they'll tell you that the Aussies are still cranking out new historic
Healeys every day!
8-O
<< Regards
Patrick Quinn
Sydney, Australia
ps. I know that we unfortunate antipodeans ... >>
"Antipodeans"? You mean that you guys in Australia all walk on your
hands?!?
;-)
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
2 x BN2
1 x AN5
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From "Phil Nase" <pnase at enter.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 08:30:56 -0500
Subject: 100/4 for sale
I have a 100/4 available for sale. Please contact me off list for details.
Phil Nase
1955 BN1
Quakertown, PA
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From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 08:43:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Left hand bolt
Hi Bill,
The answer is a "qualified" yes. If everything is in good condition with
the check assembly and you don't use it too often and adjust it once or
twice a week and don't get oil on the friction disc and keep the thread
lubricated and the car is on a slight down grade and there is a stiff
tail wind ......yes... the door will stay open. With all due
respects, I understand it was one of Donald's favorite inventions!!!
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
William Moyer wrote:
> This is what holds the door open
> while you
> exit.
>
> < The door stays open while you exit????!!!???
>
> Bill Moyer, BJ7
From "Simon Lachlan" <simon.lachlan at virginnet.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 13:45:42 -0000
Subject: Thanksgiving-No Healey content.
I hardly dared let this trivia intrude into our sombre
reflections into the true meaning of All HThings
Healey, but felt able to take a risk.....
Happy Thanksgiving to you all from Devon, UK.
(We don't celebrate it here. Our turkeys vote for
Christmas....
But, don't be sad....the BBC informs me that we
get an extra Bank Holiday in 2003 (I think) for the Queen's
Golden Jubilee!)
From Tom Mitchell <irishman1 at mediaone.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:01:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Left hand bolt
I'm sorry yet I cannot picture what your taking about, is this the part
that helps hold the door open?
At 05:48 PM 11/22/00 -0600, Peter Brauen wrote:
>Hi Ken,
> Unfortunately, replacing the bolt with a right hand thread one would
>defeat the purpose of the item as it would no longer tighten as the door is
>opened and thus would not hold the door open. A left-hand-thread bolt is
>commonly available from hardware stores that sell parts for worm drive saws
>as the blade is held on by just such a bolt. Now as to the nut, I'm not sure
>if they'll have that, but they may. They will likely be coarse thread, but
>that may make it work better. The only other option is to find a good used
>assembly, or shell out the $60 for a new one. Good luck!---Peter (BMC
>Restorations)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Freese, Ken" <Ken.Freese@Aerojet.com>
>To: <RAntal243@aol.com>; <Healeys@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 4:24 PM
>Subject: RE: Left hand bolt
>
>
> >
> > Rich,
> > Same problem with my LH door a few weeks ago. I removed the old bolt by
> > grinding and am planning to install a new one but my old one is not left
> > hand threads. I bet you could install a right hand thread bolt with some
> > Loctite and wouldn't know the difference.
> > Ken Freese
> > 65 BJ8
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RAntal243@aol.com [mailto:RAntal243@aol.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 2:11 PM
> > To: Healeys@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Left hand bolt
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> > The mechanism that holds open the passenger door on my '65 BJ8 cannot
> > be
> > tightened because the left hand threaded bolt is stripped. Does anyone
>know
> > where I might be able to find one? A machine shop will be able to weld it
> > onto the bracket. Thanks for your help.
> > Rich Antal
From "Magnus Karlsson" <healey at telia.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 17:01:55 +0100
Subject: VB: Austin Healey 4000
----- Original Message -----
From: Magnus Karlsson <healey@telia.com>
To: Quinn, Patrick <Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 4:59 PM
Subject: SV: Austin Healey 4000
The name of the expatriate Australian is Keith Boyer. He and Keith Clapham were
the men behind the 4000 recreation. I saw this car during construction at Keith
Boyers home/workshop in Rugby back in -91. I beleive that Keith Boyer was doing
the actual work on the car. As far as I understand the gentlemen above never
finished the project. Someone else did it, for the owner who had this car
featured in the UK classic car mag.
Magnus Karlsson
SWEDEN
----- Original Message -----
From: Quinn, Patrick <Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au>
To: <david_m@radiantsoundworks.com>; <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: Austin Healey 4000
>
> Greetings
>
> When they were first built there were six AH 4000 chassis laid down. Two
> cars
> were completed originally and both of these are in the UK. Later a third was
> completed but was severely damaged in an accident in Wales. This car was
> rebuilt with one of the spare chassis and that car is now in Australia.
>
> The remaining two chassis are with the owner of one of the cars in the UK.
>
> For some years it was rumoured that an expatriate Australian living in the
> UK
> had built a number of replicas but I cannot vouch for it. However a replica
> was featured in one of the UK classic car magazines a year or so back.
>
> Having driven the 4000 here in Australia I can say that it is a delightful
> car, but it just didn't have the urgency or get up and go that an AH has. I
> always wonder what would it had been like if the twin-cam cylinder head 4
> litre engine ever made it into the car. That would be something else again.
>
> I don't know what it's like in North America but the 4 litre Rolls-Royce
> engine can be found here. It's the same engine as fitted to the Van Dan Plas
> Princess.
>
> Regards
>
> Patrick Quinn
> Sydney, Australia
>
> 1947 Healey Duncan Saloon
> 1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1
>
> ps. I know that we unfortunate antipodeans have to suffer with the hand made
> Austin-Healeys but we also sadly don't celebrate Thanksgiving, and besides
> I'm
> not that keen on turkey.
>
> >>> David Masucci 23/11/00 14:41:00 >>>
>
> Happy Turkey Day Healey People!
>
> I have always fantasized of owning one of the two or three (not sure of the
> actual number) Healey 4000 prototypes that I have read about in various
> Healey books. I think the added 6 inches of width really gives the Healey
> shape some serious muscle. Now please...don't gripe about that statement,
> yes your Healey looks nice and muscular too!! The 4000 looks ALL Healey (to
> me)....just like MORE Healey. Damn....I'd love one of those in the garage!
> In gloss black!!!
>
> What I was wondering is this: Has anyone ever built a copy of the 4000?
> Others have recreated certain works type of Healeys using normal models as
> donors. It seems that it's a do-able project. adding 6 inches of filler
> metal to all structures down the middle of the car. It used a Rolls Royce
> in-line six which I assume can be found. Changing the track width of a rear
> end is done all the time. I guess the hardest parts would be the less
> structural items. The windshield and it's frame...the convertible top...the
> grill surround, etc. Heck I think the frame and sheetmetal work would be a
> breeze really. Actually this would not add a lot of work to a full frame up
> resto. Relative to the real work involved in a full restoration, it would
> only add minor extra work. I guess the purists might shudder and call this a
> butchering of a Healey, but of any of the major modifications that can be
> done to a car, this would certainly hold true to what DMH had in his mind
> back then. I think he would have loved to see this done to a few of our cars
> during the years.
>
> So it seems feasible that someone could in fact recreate a pretty darn close
> copy of a 4000 Healey. I think that would be really cool.....maybe someday
> I'll take that on. Yea...I can dream!!! Then again.....Maybe...
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Dave
>
> BJ8 (normal width)
> TR4A
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:07:26 EST
Subject: Re: Left hand bolt
In a message dated 11/23/2000 10:03:12 AM Central Standard Time,
irishman1@mediaone.net writes:
> <<is this the part
> that helps hold the door open?>>
Yep. But working properly, WILL hold the door open.
Happy "T" Day.
Ed
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:30:14 EST
Subject: Re: Choke problems
And a few day ago, Mike Salter (I think?) wrote:
> <<We have run into a number of BJ8s in this area which have had the double
> cone ended throttle springs installed, to pull the choke off.
> Interestingly
> so many of the installations are very similar to the degree that I
> would bet
> that they were done in the factory>>
>
> So I wrote My "Secret Carb Guy" (and VERY long time BJ-8 person) and asked
> had he ever heard of the above.
<<I have only seen this one time, several years ago. At the time I thought
someone was very clever. I couldn't atest that it was a factory mod or
not. I have always used 3 ball point pen springs slid over the choke
cables and captured between the cable bracket and the pin that goes
through the choke lever. This is very hard to see and doesn't require
any drilling, bending or whatever to the car. And, by George it sure
works...>>
Happy Turkey Day !!
Ed
From njones at amadeus.net
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 17:39:55 +0100
Subject: Left hand bolt-Door friction strap
The gentleman responsible for the check strap friction plate on all AH 3000s was
none other
than Eric Neale of Jensen 501S/R fame.
I've yet to see a Healey whos doors do stay open at 45 degrees when on level
ground.
Now where did I read about AH doors being used as an air brake to slow down the
cars when racing.
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:55:56 EST
Subject: Re: Left hand bolt-Door friction strap
In a message dated 11/23/2000 10:42:41 AM Central Standard Time,
njones@amadeus.net writes:
> <<I've yet to see a Healey whos doors do stay open at 45 degrees when on
> level
> ground>>
>
> You just haven't seen many Healeys, then Nick<G>!! I know LOTS of them
> including Hortense !!
>
> Cheers...........
>
> Ed
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:13:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Left hand bolt-Door friction strap
Now that is really strange.. I'm sure that I read somewhere that the concept and
design of the door check was something that Donald himself did and that he was
particularly proud of the job.....I will have to do some reading...It is always
nice
to have an excuse to spend an afternoon reading through my Healey Books..;-)
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
njones@amadeus.net wrote:
> The gentleman responsible for the check strap friction plate on all AH 3000s
>was
> none other
> than Eric Neale of Jensen 501S/R fame.
> I've yet to see a Healey whos doors do stay open at 45 degrees when on level
> ground.
>
> Now where did I read about AH doors being used as an air brake to slow down
>the
> cars when racing.
From "Steve Byers" <byers at cconnect.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 07:16:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Choke problems
Good idea, Ed --
I am in the market for new choke return springs. I think I'll give your
idea a try.
Happy Healeying, and Happy Thanksgiving, folks!
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
Havelock, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: JustBrits@aol.com <JustBrits@aol.com>
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, November 23, 2000 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: Choke problems
>
>And a few day ago, Mike Salter (I think?) wrote:
>
>> <<We have run into a number of BJ8s in this area which have had the
double
>> cone ended throttle springs installed, to pull the choke off.
>> Interestingly
>> so many of the installations are very similar to the degree that I
>> would bet
>> that they were done in the factory>>
>>
>> So I wrote My "Secret Carb Guy" (and VERY long time BJ-8 person) and
asked
>> had he ever heard of the above.
>
><<I have only seen this one time, several years ago. At the time I thought
>someone was very clever. I couldn't atest that it was a factory mod or
>not. I have always used 3 ball point pen springs slid over the choke
>cables and captured between the cable bracket and the pin that goes
>through the choke lever. This is very hard to see and doesn't require
>any drilling, bending or whatever to the car. And, by George it sure
>works...>>
>
>Happy Turkey Day !!
>
> Ed
From "Alexis Zarkades" <zdesign at mediaone.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:42:12 -0500
Subject: RE: Pillar Seal Caps
When I got my BJ8 this summer it was missing the two rubber caps that top
the pillar seals, I ordered the parts from Moss but they do not fit well .
and don't look like they belong. Does anybody produce a better fitting item?
Nick Zarkades
New to Healeys
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:07:42 -0600
Subject: Inline fuel filters
Happy Thanksgiving to all below the 49th!
Hi Steve
If memory serves you stated recently that you placed a filter between
the tank and the fuel pump. Is there an advantage to this vs one placed
between the pump and the SUs? Could one consider both location? And
finally selection of an inline filter which are the best?
Kind regards
Ed
Saskatoon
'65 BJ8
'89 4/4
P.S. As an old bird biologist I recommend tofu in place of turkey <g>!
From "John Rued" <rudedoggg at earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:14:22 -0600
Subject: Re: Austin Healey 4000
I, too, saw the car in Rugby. At the time they were attempting to get
naming rights from Margot Healey--family sanctioning--to badge it as a
Healey 4000.
JR
----- Original Message -----
From: "Magnus Karlsson" <healey@telia.com>
To: "Healey Lista" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 10:01 AM
Subject: VB: Austin Healey 4000
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Magnus Karlsson <healey@telia.com>
> To: Quinn, Patrick <Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au>
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 4:59 PM
> Subject: SV: Austin Healey 4000
>
>
> The name of the expatriate Australian is Keith Boyer. He and Keith Clapham
were the men behind the 4000 recreation. I saw this car during construction
at Keith Boyers home/workshop in Rugby back in -91. I beleive that Keith
Boyer was doing the actual work on the car. As far as I understand the
gentlemen above never finished the project. Someone else did it, for the
owner who had this car featured in the UK classic car mag.
>
> Magnus Karlsson
> SWEDEN
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Quinn, Patrick <Patrick.QUINN@det.nsw.edu.au>
> To: <david_m@radiantsoundworks.com>; <Healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 5:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Austin Healey 4000
>
>
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > When they were first built there were six AH 4000 chassis laid down. Two
> > cars
> > were completed originally and both of these are in the UK. Later a third
was
> > completed but was severely damaged in an accident in Wales. This car was
> > rebuilt with one of the spare chassis and that car is now in Australia.
> >
> > The remaining two chassis are with the owner of one of the cars in the
UK.
> >
> > For some years it was rumoured that an expatriate Australian living in
the
> > UK
> > had built a number of replicas but I cannot vouch for it. However a
replica
> > was featured in one of the UK classic car magazines a year or so back.
> >
> > Having driven the 4000 here in Australia I can say that it is a
delightful
> > car, but it just didn't have the urgency or get up and go that an AH
has. I
> > always wonder what would it had been like if the twin-cam cylinder head
4
> > litre engine ever made it into the car. That would be something else
again.
> >
> > I don't know what it's like in North America but the 4 litre Rolls-Royce
> > engine can be found here. It's the same engine as fitted to the Van Dan
Plas
> > Princess.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Patrick Quinn
> > Sydney, Australia
> >
> > 1947 Healey Duncan Saloon
> > 1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1
> >
> > ps. I know that we unfortunate antipodeans have to suffer with the hand
made
> > Austin-Healeys but we also sadly don't celebrate Thanksgiving, and
besides
> > I'm
> > not that keen on turkey.
> >
> > >>> David Masucci 23/11/00 14:41:00 >>>
> >
> > Happy Turkey Day Healey People!
> >
> > I have always fantasized of owning one of the two or three (not sure of
the
> > actual number) Healey 4000 prototypes that I have read about in various
> > Healey books. I think the added 6 inches of width really gives the
Healey
> > shape some serious muscle. Now please...don't gripe about that
statement,
> > yes your Healey looks nice and muscular too!! The 4000 looks ALL Healey
(to
> > me)....just like MORE Healey. Damn....I'd love one of those in the
garage!
> > In gloss black!!!
> >
> > What I was wondering is this: Has anyone ever built a copy of the 4000?
> > Others have recreated certain works type of Healeys using normal models
as
> > donors. It seems that it's a do-able project. adding 6 inches of filler
> > metal to all structures down the middle of the car. It used a Rolls
Royce
> > in-line six which I assume can be found. Changing the track width of a
rear
> > end is done all the time. I guess the hardest parts would be the less
> > structural items. The windshield and it's frame...the convertible
top...the
> > grill surround, etc. Heck I think the frame and sheetmetal work would be
a
> > breeze really. Actually this would not add a lot of work to a full frame
up
> > resto. Relative to the real work involved in a full restoration, it
would
> > only add minor extra work. I guess the purists might shudder and call
this a
> > butchering of a Healey, but of any of the major modifications that can
be
> > done to a car, this would certainly hold true to what DMH had in his
mind
> > back then. I think he would have loved to see this done to a few of our
cars
> > during the years.
> >
> > So it seems feasible that someone could in fact recreate a pretty darn
close
> > copy of a 4000 Healey. I think that would be really cool.....maybe
someday
> > I'll take that on. Yea...I can dream!!! Then again.....Maybe...
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > BJ8 (normal width)
> > TR4A
From "Bob Judd" <bob.judd at quokka.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:36:20 -0800
Subject: BN2's sticker price
Does anyone know the original manufacturers suggested US retail price for
the 1956 BN2? The state of Montana would like to know.
Happy Thanksgiving, Bob Judd BN2
-----Original Message-----
From: JustBrits@aol.com
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: 11/23/00 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: Choke problems
And a few day ago, Mike Salter (I think?) wrote:
> <<We have run into a number of BJ8s in this area which have had the
double
> cone ended throttle springs installed, to pull the choke off.
> Interestingly
> so many of the installations are very similar to the degree that
I
> would bet
> that they were done in the factory>>
>
> So I wrote My "Secret Carb Guy" (and VERY long time BJ-8 person) and
asked
> had he ever heard of the above.
<<I have only seen this one time, several years ago. At the time I
thought
someone was very clever. I couldn't atest that it was a factory mod or
not. I have always used 3 ball point pen springs slid over the choke
cables and captured between the cable bracket and the pin that goes
through the choke lever. This is very hard to see and doesn't require
any drilling, bending or whatever to the car. And, by George it sure
works...>>
Happy Turkey Day !!
Ed
From "Brian Collins" <bcolins at airmail.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:39:32 -0600
Subject: Fuel line jpeg
Anyone have their 61 3000 MKI BT7 up on a lift and a digital camera handy??
I need to see the proper shape, length, and end point of the front section
of the fuel line as it makes its turn upward from the frame rail up to the
carb flex line and where it is secured at the flex line junction.
could also use a pic showing the tank to pump line routing.
My fuel pump sits at a 45 degree angle behind the driver's seat.
any help appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Brian Collins
Dallas, TX
From Kit Henry <khenry at hmcltd.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 14:08:32 -0500
Subject: Motors Must GO ! ! It's snowing
Dear Enthusiasts:
We still have the two healey engines, I have a deal on one trans,
and someone wants the rear end.
We had these motors priced at what group members suggested to us
were reasonable prices, though they are still here and we need them
gone. So it's price reduction time.
Complete Healy Tri Carb motor. Was asking $1000.00 will take $ 850.00
Dual Carb Motor, without the carbs Was asking $750.00 will take $ 600.00
Will sell both together for $1400.00.
Kit Henry
Henry MotorCar Ltd.
419-483-5064
khenry@hmcltd.net
--
Kit Henry
Henry MotorSports Inc.
419-483-5064
http://www.henrymotorsports.com
E-Mail: khenry@hmcltd.net
From HLYDOC at aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 14:18:16 EST
Subject: Re: Inline fuel filters
ED , We install a in line fuel filter in all the cars that we work on since
the only original filter on the cars originaly was the little cone filters in
the fuel intakes in the carbs, which are usualy missing. We install a metal
canister filter underneth the car back by the fuel pump in either side it
really docn't matter. We install it there to keep the underhiid area looking
original.
David Nock
President/Service Manager
British Car Specialists
2060 N Wilson Way
Stockton Calif. 95205
209-948-8767 fax 209-948-1030 email HealeyDoc@aol.com
Visit our new web site at <A HREF="http://britishcarspecialists.com/";>
BritishCarSpecialists.com</A>
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From "P.M. Pollock" <pollpete at ix.netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:56:00 -0800
Subject: OT: Re: Happy Thanksgiving
Thanks Greg!
Say- could we borrow the AEC?
(Australian Election Commission- national, strictly non-partisan
so far, according to what I hear).
Regards,
Pete Pollock
N. California
Greg Bankin wrote:
> Happy Thanksgiving to all our northern friends for down under.
>
> Greg Bankin
> gregbankin@primus.com.au
> Sunshine Coast
> Queensland
> Australia
>
> '58 BN4
From "P.M. Pollock" <pollpete at ix.netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:00:17 -0800
Subject: Re: Left hand bolt
I never could figure out what that assembly was for. Somehow I seem to
remember the owner's manual saying something about your knee....
Regards, and Happy Thanksgiving (where appropriate). Overeat!
Pete Pollock
N. California
Michael Salter wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> The answer is a "qualified" yes. If everything is in good condition with
> the check assembly and you don't use it too often and adjust it once or
> twice a week and don't get oil on the friction disc and keep the thread
> lubricated and the car is on a slight down grade and there is a stiff
> tail wind ......yes... the door will stay open. With all due
> respects, I understand it was one of Donald's favorite inventions!!!
> --
> Regards,
>
> Mike Salter
> http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> William Moyer wrote:
>
> > This is what holds the door open
> > while you
> > exit.
> >
> > < The door stays open while you exit????!!!???
> >
> > Bill Moyer, BJ7
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:08:29 -0500
Subject: Re: Inline fuel filters
IMHO the positioning of an inline filter ahead of the fuel pump is not wise.
In a case where the filter becomes partially clogged, and it is a hot day, and
you are climbing a hill, or combinations of above, vapour lock is very likely.
As I recall vapour lock (real vapour lock) is when the air pressure in which a
liquid is stored gets low enough for the liquid to start vapourizing (boiling)
at
such and such a temperature. In older cars when the fuel tank was moved to the
rear from its traditional position behind the dash and an engine driven pump was
used to move the fuel, vapour lock used to occur when climbing a hill. The
problem was that the pump produced such a low pressure at its inlet when the
engine was inclined above the tank that the fuel would boil when aided by the
heat of a hard working engine. The trick, usually better know than the cause,
was
to reverse up the hill. A little slower but better than pushing the car up.
With a Healey you can still get the same problem when a filter is installed
before a pump and the filter produces a restriction. The fuel between the filter
and the pump will boil, due to the low pressure and ambient heat up in the wheel
well, and splutter splutter stop.....
Another aside to that is that if one manages somehow to block the little vent
hole in a fuel cap, easier on the 100 than the 6 cyl, the pump has sufficient
power to cause the fuel tank to collapse inward. I have seen an MGB with the
base
of the tank drawn right up to contact the top of the tank...good old S.U. Such
power....
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
HLYDOC@aol.com wrote:
> ED , We install a in line fuel filter in all the cars that we work on since
> the only original filter on the cars originaly was the little cone filters in
> the fuel intakes in the carbs, which are usualy missing. We install a metal
> canister filter underneth the car back by the fuel pump in either side it
> really docn't matter. We install it there to keep the underhiid area looking
> original.
>
> David Nock
> President/Service Manager
> British Car Specialists
> 2060 N Wilson Way
> Stockton Calif. 95205
> 209-948-8767 fax 209-948-1030 email HealeyDoc@aol.com
> Visit our new web site at <A HREF="http://britishcarspecialists.com/";>
> BritishCarSpecialists.com</A>
> ========================================
> Tech Talk Books available for Austin Healey, MG, and Triumph.
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:58:41 EST
Subject: Re: Left hand bolt
In a message dated 11/23/00 8:09:14 AM, JustBrits@aol.com writes:
<< Yep. But working properly, WILL hold the door open. >>
Standards say that the door stay should hold the door open at a 45 degree
angle with the car sitting on a level surface.
Cheers
Gary
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 16:04:47 EST
Subject: Re: Inline fuel filters
In a message dated 11/23/00 11:27:50 AM, HLYDOC@aol.com writes:
<< We install a metal
canister filter underneth the car back by the fuel pump in either side it
really docn't matter. We install it there to keep the underhiid area looking
original.
>>
Do those little metal cans have to be changed, and if so how frequently or
can they be cleaned out?
Does anyone know where you can buy the pretty glass filters that look period?
I'd like to put one up at the intake point into the carbs. Would be a great
way of checking quickly to see if fuel is getting to the float bowls without
doing the "try to catch the gas in a cup" routine.
Cheers
Gary
From Rmoment at aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 16:25:40 EST
Subject: Door checks
I haven't been reading all of commentds made about the "left hand screw", but
here is how they seem to be designed to work. If this is repetitive to
what's been said, I'm sorry.
There is a sandwich consisting of a springy "star" washer and a composite
friction pad, all the same OD. This group is held together by a screw with
hex nut, RH thread on the left door and LH thread on the right. There is a
little "wrench" that grabs the nut across two of its flats -- a true
"spanner" as the Brits would call it.
As the door opens, the design is such that the spanner/wrench tightens the
nut, thereby clamping down on the sandwich of spring/star washer and friction
pad. To adjust this mechanism, you want to tighten the nut so that with the
additional tightening caused by opening the door, the friction sandwich grips
tight enough to hold the door open. As the door closes, the hex nuts "back
off" and loosen the friction stack. Thus the door should stay in the "open"
position, but should NOT stay open at just any position more closed than this
-- the friction stack is squeezed less and thus doesn't hold.
Thus, the "staying" power of the assembly increases the farther the door is
opened.
I've seen the friction washer become lost or broken, and don't know of any
replacement. They seem to be made out of a phenolic-like material. When you
disasemble these pieces treat them very carefully. They'll last forever with
proper respect.
Roger
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 16:52:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Inline fuel filters
> Gary
Hi Gary,
You can get them from Holden Vintage and Classic
http://www.holden.co.uk/
Part # 015.170 @ #12.50 ea
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Editorgary@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 11/23/00 11:27:50 AM, HLYDOC@aol.com writes:
>
> << We install a metal
> canister filter underneth the car back by the fuel pump in either side it
> really docn't matter. We install it there to keep the underhiid area looking
> original.
> >>
>
> Do those little metal cans have to be changed, and if so how frequently or
> can they be cleaned out?
> Does anyone know where you can buy the pretty glass filters that look period?
> I'd like to put one up at the intake point into the carbs. Would be a great
> way of checking quickly to see if fuel is getting to the float bowls without
> doing the "try to catch the gas in a cup" routine.
>
> Cheers
From "Steve Byers" <byers at cconnect.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:20:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Inline fuel filters
Hi, Ed --
My in-line filter is actually installed between the pump and the carbs,
mostly because it was easy to install it there out of sight next to the
pump.
There was a vertical section of fuel line there that was accessible. I
figured any in-line fuel filter that would fit would be better than none, so
I just found a likely candidate at my local Wal-Mart and spliced 'er in with
a couple lengths of rubber hose and some clamps.
You know, carving that tofu ain't the same as the turkey!
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
Havelock, NC USA
-----Original Message-----
From: M.E.&E.A. Driver <edriver@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: Steve Byers <byers@cconnect.net>; Austin Healey list
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, November 23, 2000 1:35 PM
Subject: Inline fuel filters
>
>Happy Thanksgiving to all below the 49th!
>
>Hi Steve
>
>If memory serves you stated recently that you placed a filter between
>the tank and the fuel pump. Is there an advantage to this vs one placed
>between the pump and the SUs? Could one consider both location? And
>finally selection of an inline filter which are the best?
>
>Kind regards
>Ed
>Saskatoon
>'65 BJ8
>'89 4/4
>
>P.S. As an old bird biologist I recommend tofu in place of turkey <g>!
From "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:15:54 -0600
Subject: Re: Inline fuel filters
Hey folks happy thanksgiving....
Now on to my take on Fuel Filters... First off... Just any old Fuel Filter
from Walmart may or may not be adequate.... and sticking it under a place
where it can be forgotten and left for dead is a reciepe for failure at some
point... Though I agree on Not sticking it in the trunk... Gernerally a
Fuel Filter should be Before the pump as it prevents Trash from going
through the pump as well as the carbs... If it's not before the pump.... (
Which I wouldn't do as the pumps are located in an inaccessable area )... I
would place it in the engine bay short of the carbs and I like the see
through deals avalible from Summit racing.. I am also a fan of big Filters
like the Fram Racing filter... Just remember your Fuel Pump is going to have
to flow Fuel through this monster...
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Salter" <magicare@home.com>
To: <Editorgary@aol.com>; "Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Inline fuel filters
>
> > Gary
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> You can get them from Holden Vintage and Classic
>
> http://www.holden.co.uk/
>
> Part # 015.170 @ #12.50 ea
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Mike Salter
> http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
>
>
> Editorgary@aol.com wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 11/23/00 11:27:50 AM, HLYDOC@aol.com writes:
> >
> > << We install a metal
> > canister filter underneth the car back by the fuel pump in either side
it
> > really docn't matter. We install it there to keep the underhiid area
looking
> > original.
> > >>
> >
> > Do those little metal cans have to be changed, and if so how frequently
or
> > can they be cleaned out?
> > Does anyone know where you can buy the pretty glass filters that look
period?
> > I'd like to put one up at the intake point into the carbs. Would be a
great
> > way of checking quickly to see if fuel is getting to the float bowls
without
> > doing the "try to catch the gas in a cup" routine.
> >
> > Cheers
From Mark J Bradakis <mjb at autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 20:04:31 -0700 (MST)
Subject: List archive troubles
Looks like the list archives at listquest.com are having troubles.
I'll be leaving Salt Lake tomorrow to deliver a TR6 to southern California,
so I won't be able to do much about it, or any other list troubles until
I after I return in a few days. Sorry for any inconvenience.
mjb.
From "Keith Pennell" <pennell at whro.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 23:24:11 -0500
Subject: Coughing and Gauging
Hello Listers and Happy Thanksgiving!
Got two issues to throw out tonight - one old and one new.
1 I know a lot of discussion lately has been on fuel gauges reading only
full or only empty, but I have a gauge which ranges from about 1/4 when empty
to 3/4 when full. Any thoughts out there on the problem and a fix to get it
to run the full range?
2 I am still experiencing much coughing, spitting through carbs, and
popping when the rpms get above 3000 or so. I would like to take a look at
the timing with a timing light. At idle I seem to recall that the firing
should be about 5/8 inch before TDC. How should that distance change as rpms
increase up to say 4000 or so? Any other things I should look at?
Thanks to all for your input
Keith Pennell
From "Mike Goode" <mlgoode at msn.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 07:43:39 -0700
Subject: Re: Coughing and Gauging
Hi, Keith.
I bought a timing lite from my local Checker Auto Parts store here in
Scottsdale for about $75. It is from Innova Electronics. It has a dial
on the back that lets you set the advance that you want. When the
distributor is set properly the lite shows the mark on the pulley
right under the pointer. You can also see exactly where your advance
is going under revs. Kinda of neat and you don't have to measure out
the pulley in inches and you can set the timing according to the book
(in degrees).
Mike Goode
BJ-8
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Pennell" <pennell@whro.net>
To: "Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 9:24 PM
Subject: Coughing and Gauging
>
> Hello Listers and Happy Thanksgiving!
>
> Got two issues to throw out tonight - one old and one new.
>
> 1 I know a lot of discussion lately has been on fuel gauges
reading only
> full or only empty, but I have a gauge which ranges from about 1/4
when empty
> to 3/4 when full. Any thoughts out there on the problem and a fix
to get it
> to run the full range?
>
> 2 I am still experiencing much coughing, spitting through carbs,
and
> popping when the rpms get above 3000 or so. I would like to take a
look at
> the timing with a timing light. At idle I seem to recall that the
firing
> should be about 5/8 inch before TDC. How should that distance
change as rpms
> increase up to say 4000 or so? Any other things I should look at?
>
> Thanks to all for your input
> Keith Pennell
From LarryRPH at aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:28:29 EST
Subject: Re: Coughing and Gauging
Keith,
I can't offer much about the Gas Gauge problem but the spitting, coughing,
etc as you increase the RPMs was the same problem I had for a while. The
culprit was that the small carbon brush and spring in the the center
distributor post had deteriorated and was making intermittent contact. Did
you try replacing the distributor cap. The spring and brush I am referring to
does not seem to be sold separtely -only with the distributor cap.
Good LUck
Larry
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 07:29:56 -0800
Subject: RE: healey in cigarette ad cir. 1957
Hmmmm. Looks like a Morgan in front.
Jonathan Lane
-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Weldon [mailto:brad@bradw.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 4:40 PM
To: Healey Mailing List
Subject: healey in cigarette ad cir. 1957
On the backcover of the November 26,1957 issue of LOOK Magazine, an
advertisement by Oasis brand cigarettes by Liggett and Myers Tobacco Co.
features an Austin-Healey in the background and another british car in the
foreground.
Thought some of you might like to see it.
http://bradw.com/healey/oasis.shtml
Brad
'55 Hundred
BN1 #226796
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:14:38 EST
Subject: Re: Coughing and Gauging
In a message dated 11/24/00 7:29:49 AM, LarryRPH@aol.com writes:
<< that the small carbon brush and spring in the the center
distributor post had deteriorated and was making intermittent contact. Did
you try replacing the distributor cap. The spring and brush I am referring to
does not seem to be sold separtely -only with the distributor cap.
Good LUck
Larry >>
In the past, I recall getting those little parts separately from British Car
Specialists. i carry an additional set in my spare parts bag since I've had
them fall out and get lost when doing roadside service -- i even had one
situation where my car was running (though not well) with just the spring
making the contact and the carbon brush completely gone.
Cheers
gary
From Rmoment at aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:34:06 EST
Subject: Tonneau zipper
I'm looking for an ORIGINAL tonneau zipper. Preferably on a tonneau that is
trashed. The tang would be long, with a slot down its center and say
"lightning" on it. The cloth material would be a graklyish color, but not
torn or deteriorated. In other words, the zipper should be "salvagable".
I believe these zippers were used on the 100, 100-six, and 3000s, so there
should be lots of raty bits out there to salvage from.
Any help would be gratefully appreciated.
Roger
From "Neil Trelenberg" <neilberg at telus.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:51:24 -0800
Subject: Re: Coughing and Gauging
I'll attempt the timing issue Keith. The 5/8 of an inch is for static
timing. To do this, set the timing marker at 5/8 BTDC, squeezing the fan
belt and turning the fan will allow you to turn over the engine by hand.
After this is accomplished adjust the dissy so the points are just opening
(be sure to adjust the points to 15 thou first) . You can get more precise
by using a 12 volt test light to get it just right. The strobe timing, if
that's what you want to do, is best done with an advance timing light as
there are no marks except for TDC. The setup is 15 deg. @600 rpm. This
reading corresponds exactly to the static setup. I would use a digital tach
for the setting the idle to 600, it's not likely your tach is that accurate
at that low rpm. Good luck try to keep it at 600 long enough to make
ajustments. I have gone through all this not long ago, so it's pretty fresh
in my mind (more-or-less). I changed my dissy to electronic ignition and
static timed it prior to pulling everything apart, I needed a reference to
start by before I installed the new stuff. It turned out that after static
timing and then checking with a strobe light, @600 rpm, 15 deg was dialed to
get TDC as stated in the manual. If I've had any old, fat, bald moments I'm
sure someone will set me straight...Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Pennell" <pennell@whro.net>
To: "Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 8:24 PM
Subject: Coughing and Gauging
>
> Hello Listers and Happy Thanksgiving!
>
> Got two issues to throw out tonight - one old and one new.
>
> 1 I know a lot of discussion lately has been on fuel gauges reading
only
> full or only empty, but I have a gauge which ranges from about 1/4 when
empty
> to 3/4 when full. Any thoughts out there on the problem and a fix to get
it
> to run the full range?
>
> 2 I am still experiencing much coughing, spitting through carbs, and
> popping when the rpms get above 3000 or so. I would like to take a look
at
> the timing with a timing light. At idle I seem to recall that the firing
> should be about 5/8 inch before TDC. How should that distance change as
rpms
> increase up to say 4000 or so? Any other things I should look at?
>
> Thanks to all for your input
> Keith Pennell
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 00:22:23 -0600
Subject: Re: Inline fuel filters
I'd been looking for two years for one of those suckers. Finally found one
at a swap meet in October. Haven't installed it yet. Lots of other things to
finish first. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Inline fuel filters
>
> In a message dated 11/23/00 11:27:50 AM, HLYDOC@aol.com writes:
>
> << We install a metal
> canister filter underneth the car back by the fuel pump in either side it
> really docn't matter. We install it there to keep the underhiid area
looking
> original.
> >>
>
> Do those little metal cans have to be changed, and if so how frequently or
> can they be cleaned out?
> Does anyone know where you can buy the pretty glass filters that look
period?
> I'd like to put one up at the intake point into the carbs. Would be a
great
> way of checking quickly to see if fuel is getting to the float bowls
without
> doing the "try to catch the gas in a cup" routine.
>
> Cheers
> Gary
From "Magnus Karlsson" <healey at telia.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:51:40 +0100
Subject: SV: Coughing and Gauging
I think you have got it exactly right Neil.
I would like to add though, if you have trouble keeping the revs at 600 you can
use any figure below 1000. If the distributor is correctly set, the advance
will not come on before well over 1000. To be really sure that you have got the
timing right check it at 4000 revs, which incidentially is the most important
figure because pinking at high revs is what causes most damage. Ideally the
timing should be 35-36 degrees advanced at these revs. If you find that yours
isn4t and the timing at idle still is correct, then your distributor is set up
wrongly.
Magnus Karlsson
SWEDEN
----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Trelenberg <neilberg@telus.net>
To: Keith Pennell <pennell@whro.net>; Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: Coughing and Gauging
>
> I'll attempt the timing issue Keith. The 5/8 of an inch is for static
> timing. To do this, set the timing marker at 5/8 BTDC, squeezing the fan
> belt and turning the fan will allow you to turn over the engine by hand.
> After this is accomplished adjust the dissy so the points are just opening
> (be sure to adjust the points to 15 thou first) . You can get more precise
> by using a 12 volt test light to get it just right. The strobe timing, if
> that's what you want to do, is best done with an advance timing light as
> there are no marks except for TDC. The setup is 15 deg. @600 rpm. This
> reading corresponds exactly to the static setup. I would use a digital tach
> for the setting the idle to 600, it's not likely your tach is that accurate
> at that low rpm. Good luck try to keep it at 600 long enough to make
> ajustments. I have gone through all this not long ago, so it's pretty fresh
> in my mind (more-or-less). I changed my dissy to electronic ignition and
> static timed it prior to pulling everything apart, I needed a reference to
> start by before I installed the new stuff. It turned out that after static
> timing and then checking with a strobe light, @600 rpm, 15 deg was dialed to
> get TDC as stated in the manual. If I've had any old, fat, bald moments I'm
> sure someone will set me straight...Neil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Pennell" <pennell@whro.net>
> To: "Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 8:24 PM
> Subject: Coughing and Gauging
>
>
> >
> > Hello Listers and Happy Thanksgiving!
> >
> > Got two issues to throw out tonight - one old and one new.
> >
> > 1 I know a lot of discussion lately has been on fuel gauges reading
> only
> > full or only empty, but I have a gauge which ranges from about 1/4 when
> empty
> > to 3/4 when full. Any thoughts out there on the problem and a fix to get
> it
> > to run the full range?
> >
> > 2 I am still experiencing much coughing, spitting through carbs, and
> > popping when the rpms get above 3000 or so. I would like to take a look
> at
> > the timing with a timing light. At idle I seem to recall that the firing
> > should be about 5/8 inch before TDC. How should that distance change as
> rpms
> > increase up to say 4000 or so? Any other things I should look at?
> >
> > Thanks to all for your input
> > Keith Pennell
From "Alexis Zarkades" <zdesign at mediaone.net>
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:33:23 -0500
Subject: RE: Pillar seals caps
When I got my BJ8 this summer it was missing the two rubber caps that top
the pillar seals, I ordered the parts from Moss but they do not fit well .
and don't look like they belong. Does anybody produce a better fitting item?
Could some one on the list e-mail me if this is getting to the list, it
keeps on kicking it back to me-thanks.
Nick Zarkades
New to Healeys
From "Neil Trelenberg" <neilberg at telus.net>
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:02:21 -0800
Subject: Re: Coughing and Gauging
Thanks Magnus....35 degrees is the max advance or you may have weight spring
problems. I believe you can be doing damage if it goes much higher advance.
I think for basic setup static is just fine and it's easy...Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Magnus Karlsson" <healey@telia.com>
To: "Healey Lista" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 1:51 AM
Subject: SV: Coughing and Gauging
>
> I think you have got it exactly right Neil.
>
> I would like to add though, if you have trouble keeping the revs at 600
you can use any figure below 1000. If the distributor is correctly set, the
advance will not come on before well over 1000. To be really sure that you
have got the timing right check it at 4000 revs, which incidentially is the
most important figure because pinking at high revs is what causes most
damage. Ideally the timing should be 35-36 degrees advanced at these revs.
If you find that yours isn4t and the timing at idle still is correct, then
your distributor is set up wrongly.
>
> Magnus Karlsson
> SWEDEN
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Neil Trelenberg <neilberg@telus.net>
> To: Keith Pennell <pennell@whro.net>; Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 4:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Coughing and Gauging
>
>
> >
> > I'll attempt the timing issue Keith. The 5/8 of an inch is for static
> > timing. To do this, set the timing marker at 5/8 BTDC, squeezing the fan
> > belt and turning the fan will allow you to turn over the engine by hand.
> > After this is accomplished adjust the dissy so the points are just
opening
> > (be sure to adjust the points to 15 thou first) . You can get more
precise
> > by using a 12 volt test light to get it just right. The strobe timing,
if
> > that's what you want to do, is best done with an advance timing light as
> > there are no marks except for TDC. The setup is 15 deg. @600 rpm. This
> > reading corresponds exactly to the static setup. I would use a digital
tach
> > for the setting the idle to 600, it's not likely your tach is that
accurate
> > at that low rpm. Good luck try to keep it at 600 long enough to make
> > ajustments. I have gone through all this not long ago, so it's pretty
fresh
> > in my mind (more-or-less). I changed my dissy to electronic ignition and
> > static timed it prior to pulling everything apart, I needed a reference
to
> > start by before I installed the new stuff. It turned out that after
static
> > timing and then checking with a strobe light, @600 rpm, 15 deg was
dialed to
> > get TDC as stated in the manual. If I've had any old, fat, bald moments
I'm
> > sure someone will set me straight...Neil
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Keith Pennell" <pennell@whro.net>
> > To: "Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 8:24 PM
> > Subject: Coughing and Gauging
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hello Listers and Happy Thanksgiving!
> > >
> > > Got two issues to throw out tonight - one old and one new.
> > >
> > > 1 I know a lot of discussion lately has been on fuel gauges
reading
> > only
> > > full or only empty, but I have a gauge which ranges from about 1/4
when
> > empty
> > > to 3/4 when full. Any thoughts out there on the problem and a fix to
get
> > it
> > > to run the full range?
> > >
> > > 2 I am still experiencing much coughing, spitting through carbs,
and
> > > popping when the rpms get above 3000 or so. I would like to take a
look
> > at
> > > the timing with a timing light. At idle I seem to recall that the
firing
> > > should be about 5/8 inch before TDC. How should that distance change
as
> > rpms
> > > increase up to say 4000 or so? Any other things I should look at?
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for your input
> > > Keith Pennell
From Terry Blubaugh <tblubaugh at earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:52:34 -0800
Subject: German Healey Owners
Would some of the Healey owners in Germany please contact me off the
list. Thanks.
Terry Blubaugh
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:58:26 -0600
Subject: Re: Inline fuel filters
Thanks to Steve, Michael, David, Keith and Bruce for comments on the
placement of inline fuel filters. The consensus is after the fuel pump
preferably in the engine bay although several have not totally rejected
the idea of placing one between the tank and the pump. Again thanks for
the input.
Kind regards
Ed
Saskatoon
From Ward Stebner <liason at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:44:29 -0600
Subject: Band Clamps
Just wondering if someone can give me a quick explanation on how to
install the band clamps that are used on the radiator hoses of the
100-4. It is probably real easy but I don't want to destroy them trying
to learn how.
Thanks!
Ward Stebner
From CEWPlatt at aol.com
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 19:42:17 EST
Subject: (no subject)
Dear List Subscribers,
I am trying to figure out the mounting arrangement for a BN1 wiper motor. The
car came disassembled without any mounting hardware, and there are few
references which help. So far I've come to the conclusion it sits on top of a
bracket or shelf on the driver side. The shelf has rather large diameter
holes which is interesting. Any help would be appreciated, the car is not
concours, but doesn't deviate from original unnecessarily.
Best Regards.
Clay Platt
1954 BN1
From HLYDOC at aol.com
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 00:06:17 EST
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Yes it sits on the small shelf on the left side of the car behind the dash
there are rubber mounts that go in the large holes that the wiper motor
mounts on. There is a kit available that comes with new rubbers , studs ,
washers and nuts.
David Nock
President/Service Manager
British Car Specialists
2060 N Wilson Way
Stockton Calif. 95205
209-948-8767 fax 209-948-1030 email HealeyDoc@aol.com
Visit our new web site at <A HREF="http://britishcarspecialists.com/";>
BritishCarSpecialists.com</A>
========================================
Tech Talk Books available for Austin Healey, MG, and Triumph.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From Dennis Broughel <brougheldp at earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:05:13 -0500
Subject: electric fan
Hi Listers:
What is the general concensis about removing the waterpump fan and
replacing it with an electric engine cooling fan, and possibly finding 1
or 2 horses for my Bn-4
Thanks, Denny
Bn-4
From John Harper <John at jharper.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 09:03:52 +0000
Subject: BN! Wiper Motor Mountings
Clay
I see that you have a BN1. We need to note this because BN2 and later
big Healeys have the motor mounted differently.
The motor sits on a rubber or similar pad about 2" x 3" x 1/4". Two
threaded studs screw into the bottom of the motor and protrude through
the holes in the pad and mounting bracket. A "top hat" rubber washer
comes next (similar to half a grommet) and then a large flat washer and
two nuts locked together. The first nut should be only tight enough to
hold the motor from moving around before the second is locked to it. If
overtightened the "soft" mounting will be lost.
All the best
>
>I am trying to figure out the mounting arrangement for a BN1 wiper motor. The
>car came disassembled without any mounting hardware, and there are few
>references which help. So far I've come to the conclusion it sits on top of a
>bracket or shelf on the driver side.
Best to say Left Hand Side for those who drive on the right.
>The shelf has rather large diameter
>holes which is interesting. Any help would be appreciated, the car is not
>concours, but doesn't deviate from original unnecessarily.
>
>Best Regards.
>
>Clay Platt
>1954 BN1
--
John Harper
From Krazy Kiwi <magicare at home.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:02:21 -0500
Subject: Fuel efficiency "minimal Healey content"
This is a question that has perplexed me for a very long time. With all
the inquiring minds out there in Healey Land does anyone have a
realistic answer.
I have read that it takes 5 times as much energy to build an automobile
as the same automobile will use in its lifetime. Why do we not
concentrate our efforts on prolonging the life of vehicles rather than
decreasing the amount of fuel that they use?
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
www.precisionsportscar.com
From Healybj8 at aol.com
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:21:22 EST
Subject: Re: Fuel efficiency "minimal Healey content"
In a message dated 11/26/2000 1:04:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
magicare@home.com writes:
<< Why do we not
concentrate our efforts on prolonging the life of vehicles rather than
decreasing the amount of fuel that they use? >>
Well actually I think they have done both. If you look at cars built 20 - 30
years ago and compare them with those built today, the new cars are much
better built and longer lasting. Additionally, manufacturers have
stream-lined the manufacturing process and reduced the quantity of material
used to construct the cars today, all leading to reduced energy input.
I'd say that improvements have been made in both areas.
Tim Wallace
'67 BJ8
Fuquay-Varina, NC
From Healybj8 at aol.com
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:26:47 EST
Subject: Engine rebuilding
Listers, has anyone had experience doing engine rebuild work while the engine
is in tha car? My engine is begining to make a small bearing noise, and it
sounds like a wrist-pin bearing is worn out. (That's small end bearing for
you that don't speak American)
I have pulled the engine out of the car in the past, and I don't really want
to put myself through that ordeal again. I was thinking about pulling the
head and sump, and then getting to the pistons and rods from above and below.
Having had the sump off in the past, the cyllinder bores seem OK, so I'm
thinking that a ring replacement probably would be in order while apart.
Am I leading my self down the path to heartbreak, or can this be done?
Ideas, suggestions, or comments???
Tim Wallace
'67 BJ8
Fuquay-Varina, NC
From Jerry Wall <jwbn6 at iopener.net>
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:55:39 -0600
Subject: side exhaust thread revisited
when we were last on this subject, it kept sticking in the back of my mind
something i read somewhere having to do with the best performance on a healey
6, the exhaust needed to extend all the way to the rear of the car.
while in the throes of moving this weekend, i came across the famous SIX SLUG
SLUGGER article from the august 1961 issue of SPORTS CAR GRAPHIC. the article
was written by jerry titus and john christy concerning all of the modifications
done to the early 3000's by HOLLYWOOD SPORTS CARS. HSC prepared many of the
early hot west coast sports car racers.
"A couple of things should be pointed out concerning fuel-air flow and
breathing in the Healey engines. First, since these are torque engines they
depend on fairly fast moving mixtures. To this end the intake ports must not
be gouged out to sewer-pipe dimensions; they should be cleaned out and polished
but at most no more than 1/32 of an inch should be taken out at any given edge.
The valve throats can be taken out and the valves countersunk slightly to good
effect. Finally, never get the idea that what's good for a Bristol is good for
a Healey in the exhaust department. Quite often we've seen short side exhausts
used on a Healey and they sound wonderful. There's only one trouble; they cut
the bottom-end power absolutely dead, especially when a hot cam is used.
Pipes, either muffled or unmuffled and straight through, should run the full
length of the automobile and emerge out the back and at the same upward angle
as the stock units. An eighth to a quarter-inch larger diamet
er tail-pipe to match the manifold down-pipes can be used to get the gas out.
To use one Healey expert's sound advice: Use the right cam, keep the
velocities up and feed it."
maybe we can get greg kauffman or gary anderson to reproduce the entire
article, with photos, and its sequel on obtaining 200hp at the rear wheels in a
future issue of AH MAGAZINE or BRITISH CAR.
happy healeying,
jerry wall
From "JISah102" <ah102 at home.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:49:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Engine rebuilding
Tim: Here is my $.02:
With engine in car, drop the pan, remove the head, remove piston/rods,
inspect and mike the bores, Inspect the rods and
pistons/rings. If you are lucky, you will be able to simply hone the
bores, install new pistons and rings and wrist pin bushings. Also, mike the
crank (rod journals), and if ok, replace the rod bearings. If all this
works out, you have a motor
that will serve you well, for less than $600, and your time.
This is exactly what I did on my BN7, 12 years and 25,000 miles ago. Still
strong, good oil pressure, and very little smoke.
I was lucky and did not have to do the head. If yours needs it, figure
another $500.
Good Luck,
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: <Healybj8@aol.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 1:26 PM
Subject: Engine rebuilding
>
> Listers, has anyone had experience doing engine rebuild work while the
engine
> is in tha car? My engine is begining to make a small bearing noise, and
it
> sounds like a wrist-pin bearing is worn out. (That's small end bearing
for
> you that don't speak American)
>
> I have pulled the engine out of the car in the past, and I don't really
want
> to put myself through that ordeal again. I was thinking about pulling the
> head and sump, and then getting to the pistons and rods from above and
below.
> Having had the sump off in the past, the cyllinder bores seem OK, so I'm
> thinking that a ring replacement probably would be in order while apart.
>
> Am I leading my self down the path to heartbreak, or can this be done?
> Ideas, suggestions, or comments???
>
> Tim Wallace
> '67 BJ8
> Fuquay-Varina, NC
From Healybj8 at aol.com
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:24:34 EST
Subject: Re: Fuel efficiency "minimal Healey content"
In a message dated 11/26/2000 4:28:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
magicare@home.com writes:
<< Does anyone out there know for sure that car going to scrap have
appreciably more
miles on them than they did 20 years ago? Someone must keep those statistics
somewhere. >>
Well my knowledge of this is dated, but I do recall that cars in the early
90's were the oldesd in history as an average age of the car driven on the
road. This was from the Highway department satasistics. I think the average
age of the car was something like 7 years old. It could have reflected the
economics of the time, but also would have to do with the build quality.
Another aspect was the end of the year model changes which made your car out
of fashon before it wore out.
Tim
From Rmoment at aol.com
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:58:13 EST
Subject: Re: electric fan
In a message dated 11/26/2000 10:07:51 AM Mountain Standard Time,
brougheldp@earthlink.net writes:
<<
Hi Listers:
What is the general concensis about removing the waterpump fan and
replacing it with an electric engine cooling fan, and possibly finding 1
or 2 horses for my Bn-4
Thanks, Denny
Bn-4 >>
1) you won't notice the horses
2) you'll lower the value of your car by drilling holes to mount stuff
3) you'll do better to have your engine and radiator cleaned/flushed and
maybe the radiator recored.
A healthy system will not overheat. If you MUST do something different, put
in one of those Texas Cooler 6-blade fans.
Roger
From "Thomas Mulligan" <tpmul at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:01:52 -0500
Subject: BJ8 Grille
I pulled the grille out of the BJ8 today
with the intention of giving it a thorough
refurbishing and cleaning. I noticed that
the front edge of the slats appear finely sand
blasted in the perfect shape of the
grille surround opening!
Anyone have any success restoring the
finish?
Anyone have any experience with the Moss
replacement grille (or other sources)?
Thanks:
Tom
From JohnbS7257 at aol.com
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:23:59 EST
Subject: Bugeye Diecast Model
Just happened to come across a "Johnny Lightning British Invasion" 1960
Bugeye model to day at Toys R Us. Put out by Praying Mantis with a phone
number of 1-800-MANTIS-8. It looks like a nice little car, supposed to be
Leaf Green but there is too much blue in it. Also a picture of KFO 363 on the
package.
It looks like the series will have the Bugeye, a MGA 1500 Twin Cam, a Jag
E-type roadster, a Triumph TR3A, a MGB roadster and a Sunbeam Alpine.
John Stevens
"Ruby" BJ8 27621
JohnbS7257@aol.com
From "Charles N. Hall" <hallc at vianet.on.ca>
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:57:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Engine rebuilding
----- Original Message -----
From: <Healybj8@aol.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 1:26 PM
Subject: Engine rebuilding
>
> Listers, has anyone had experience doing engine rebuild work while the
engine
> is in tha car? My engine is begining to make a small bearing noise, and
it
> sounds like a wrist-pin bearing is worn out. (That's small end bearing
for
> you that don't speak American)
>
> I have pulled the engine out of the car in the past, and I don't really
want
> to put myself through that ordeal again. I was thinking about pulling the
> head and sump, and then getting to the pistons and rods from above and
below.
> Having had the sump off in the past, the cyllinder bores seem OK, so I'm
> thinking that a ring replacement probably would be in order while apart.
>
> Am I leading my self down the path to heartbreak, or can this be done?
> Ideas, suggestions, or comments???
>
> Tim Wallace
> '67 BJ8
> Fuquay-Varina, NC
>
Tim:
Years ago I rebuilt engines for a company fleet where I worked and observed
that the only successful engine rebuilt was by removal of the motor and
total rebuilding.
When new crank bearings are installed, then the camshaft bearings, since
they are worn more, continue to receive the greater majority of oil which in
turn leaves less for the new bearings on the crank. When this happens then
the new bearings will burn out.
Some may disagree with me, and partial overhauls have been done with
success, but my choice is always a total rebuild because it is likely less
money in the end and gives me much more reliability.
Charles Hall
BT7
From Terry Blubaugh <tblubaugh at earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:58:29 -0800
Subject: (no subject)
To Thomas in Germany,
My Email to you tonight was returned as "undeliverable" to the address
you gave me. Please contact me again, and perhaps you should include
a second address.
Thanks,
Terry Blubaugh
From HLYDOC at aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:17:22 EST
Subject: Re: Engine rebuilding
Tim: We have been doing this for many years and have done all sorts of
combinations of engine rebuilds. It all depends on what you want when you are
finished, do you want a new engine, or do you want an engine that has been
only half done?
When you do a rebuild in the chassis you are only doing half a job you are
unable to replace many parts that are worn. Such as cam bearings, timing
chain, tensioner, and the front and rear main bearings. Also unless you are
very carefull and experienced i would not recomend replacing the top main
bearing shells they are tricky to replace.
My recomenation would be that if you are planning on keeping this car for a
long time and want to get peak reliability out of the car you should remove
the engine and do it correctly. It is not that big of a job to remove the
engine from the car, and you will be able to detail under the hood at the
same time. Making the underhood area look as good as the engine will run when
you are finished.
David Nock
President/Service Manager
British Car Specialists
2060 N Wilson Way
Stockton Calif. 95205
209-948-8767 fax 209-948-1030 email HealeyDoc@aol.com
Visit our new web site at <A HREF="http://britishcarspecialists.com/";>
BritishCarSpecialists.com</A>
========================================
Tech Talk Books available for Austin Healey, MG, and Triumph.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From "Greg Monfort" <wingracer at email.msn.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 01:09:49 -0500
Subject: Re: side exhaust thread revisited
I loved this rag as their (and it's predecessor,
Speed Age), tech articles by them and also Paul
VanValkenburg (sp?) got me on the right path on how
to make HP, and improve a car's performance in
general.
There's a lot of other stuff involved in increasing
efficiency, but a rule-of-thumb for determining the
length of the exhaust path from the valve to free air
is: 204,000/the RPM you want best efficiency of what
you've got. So if you want to maximize grunt out of a
corner at 1500RPM, then a total pathlength of ~136"
will get you in the ballpark, though of course you
still have to experiment with different lengths
around this figure. Pipes this long will limit topend
RPM somewhat. If you're roadracing with a 5500RPM
redline, then a ~37" pathlength.
BTW, it doesn't matter whether it a torquer or not,
the gas slug velocity needs to be 200-300ft/sec. For
this reason, the pipe diameter needs to reflect this,
and why the smaller the cylinder's displacement and
the lower the peak RPM, the smaller the diameter of
the intake and exhaust plumbing for best efficiency.
GM
----- Original Message -----
>
> when we were last on this subject, it kept sticking
in the back of my mind something i read somewhere
having to do with the best performance on a healey 6,
the exhaust needed to extend all the way to the rear
of the car.
>
> while in the throes of moving this weekend, i came
across the famous SIX SLUG SLUGGER article from the
august 1961 issue of SPORTS CAR GRAPHIC. the article
was written by jerry titus and john christy
concerning all of the modifications done to the early
3000's by HOLLYWOOD SPORTS CARS. HSC prepared many
of the early hot west coast sports car racers.
>
> "A couple of things should be pointed out
concerning fuel-air flow and breathing in the Healey
engines. First, since these are torque engines they
depend on fairly fast moving mixtures. To this end
the intake ports must not be gouged out to sewer-pipe
dimensions; they should be cleaned out and polished
but at most no more than 1/32 of an inch should be
taken out at any given edge. The valve throats can
be taken out and the valves countersunk slightly to
good effect. Finally, never get the idea that what's
good for a Bristol is good for a Healey in the
exhaust department. Quite often we've seen short
side exhausts used on a Healey and they sound
wonderful. There's only one trouble; they cut the
bottom-end power absolutely dead, especially when a
hot cam is used. Pipes, either muffled or unmuffled
and straight through, should run the full length of
the automobile and emerge out the back and at the
same upward angle as the stock units. An eighth to a
quarter-inch larger!
> diamet
> er tail-pipe to match the manifold down-pipes can
be used to get the gas out. To use one Healey
expert's sound advice: Use the right cam, keep the
velocities up and feed it."
>
>
> jerry wall
From TBanks at LEVI.com
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:02:56 -0800
Subject: Float chamber overflow
Hello Listers,
The rear HD8 carb on my BJ8 is experiencing serious fuel overflow. With the
unnerving way these things choose to happen, this started after 1000 miles
of carefree motoring just as I was in line for a Technical Control here in
Belgium!
I've taken a look at the needle and seating and both look clean and
unmarked. The float is, well, floating. The top of the float (it is the
brass type) sits just above the fuel surface in the full chamber. Twice now
I've had the top off the chamber. The needle is seated after reassembly
(i.e. no fuel flow with ignition on, once chambers are full), but very
shortly after startup the problem returns (and stays).
So I have a couple of questions....
If the needle/seating need replacing is that obvious from visual
examination? I can't see any damage, but should they be replaced anyway?
How much buoyancy should the float have? Is it possible it has leaked fuel
and therefore is not exerting sufficient upward force on the needle?
Grateful for ideas,
Tom Banks
'64 BJ8
From Josef.Eckert at t-mobil.de
Date: 27 Nov 2000 09:15:42 +0000
Subject: German Healey Owner
Hi Terry,
Would love to contact you, but do not have your e-mail address.
Please pass to me to contact you off the list: josef.eckert@t-mobil.de
Josef Eckert, Koenigswinter, Germany
From "Robert J Dunn" <b24730 at strato.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 06:26:25 -0500
Subject: German Healey Owner
I owned a 1960 Healey 3000 about 38 years ago.Had to sell due to $ and kids.
Have the bug again. I,m not really interested in doing any restoration. Budget
allows for around $ 20,000. Can something nice be had in that price range ?
From "Steve Byers" <byers at cconnect.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 01:41:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Float chamber overflow
Hi, Tom --
I would recommend that you check the condition of the brass screens at the
connection of the fuel lines with the carburetors. I had a similar
recurring problem once, even after changing the needles and seats, and
found the screens in deteriorated condition with holes in them. They are
the only filters provided in the original fuel system.
I have also found that the needles and seats can appear to be O.K., but not
seal properly. I changed mine to Grose Jets several years ago and have not
had the overflow problem since.
The brass float may be partially filled wih fuel. I have had to replace
both floats in my carbs at different times due to fuel leaking into them.
You can remove the float and shake it to see if there is fuel inside.
Good luck, and Happy Healeying!
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
Havelock, NC USA
-----Original Message-----
From: TBanks@LEVI.com <TBanks@LEVI.com>
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, November 27, 2000 3:41 AM
Subject: Float chamber overflow
>
>Hello Listers,
>
>The rear HD8 carb on my BJ8 is experiencing serious fuel overflow. With
the
>unnerving way these things choose to happen, this started after 1000 miles
>of carefree motoring just as I was in line for a Technical Control here in
>Belgium!
>
>I've taken a look at the needle and seating and both look clean and
>unmarked. The float is, well, floating. The top of the float (it is the
>brass type) sits just above the fuel surface in the full chamber. Twice
now
>I've had the top off the chamber. The needle is seated after reassembly
>(i.e. no fuel flow with ignition on, once chambers are full), but very
>shortly after startup the problem returns (and stays).
>
>So I have a couple of questions....
>
>If the needle/seating need replacing is that obvious from visual
>examination? I can't see any damage, but should they be replaced anyway?
>
>How much buoyancy should the float have? Is it possible it has leaked fuel
>and therefore is not exerting sufficient upward force on the needle?
>
>Grateful for ideas,
>Tom Banks
>'64 BJ8
From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:15:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Float chamber overflow
Hi Tom,
I would have to agree with Steve regarding the float. It should float higher
that " The top of the float (it is the brass type) sits just above the fuel
surface in the full chamber".
It is easy to tell if there is fuel in it, just shake it.
The trick to getting it out is to pour a little extra fuel into the chamber, the
float should rise enough to just lift out.
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
TBanks@LEVI.com wrote:
> Hello Listers,
>
> The rear HD8 carb on my BJ8 is experiencing serious fuel overflow. With the
> unnerving way these things choose to happen, this started after 1000 miles
> of carefree motoring just as I was in line for a Technical Control here in
> Belgium!
>
> I've taken a look at the needle and seating and both look clean and
> unmarked. The float is, well, floating. The top of the float (it is the
> brass type) sits just above the fuel surface in the full chamber. Twice now
> I've had the top off the chamber. The needle is seated after reassembly
> (i.e. no fuel flow with ignition on, once chambers are full), but very
> shortly after startup the problem returns (and stays).
>
> So I have a couple of questions....
>
> If the needle/seating need replacing is that obvious from visual
> examination? I can't see any damage, but should they be replaced anyway?
>
> How much buoyancy should the float have? Is it possible it has leaked fuel
> and therefore is not exerting sufficient upward force on the needle?
>
> Grateful for ideas,
> Tom Banks
> '64 BJ8
From Drtrite at aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:47:04 EST
Subject: Re: Float chamber overflow
Hi Tom,
Did you check the over flow tubes that run down the side of the engine? If
they are plastic they may have touched the hot manifold and are now heat
sealed shut.
Don
NTAHC
From "Browning David (TVCS)" <BrowningD at tce.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:18:32 -0500
Subject: RE: 60/72-spokes on BN1
Thanks to everybody for their info on the 60/72spoke wheels. It's been very
helpful.
David B.
'55 BN1
From Pamela Holmes <holmes at mcn.org>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 06:56:38 -0800
Subject: Re:
Robert
You may be interested to know I purchased a 1960 BT7 in very good condition this
past September in Northern California from the original owner for $18,500. I
might add that I have been looking for the right car for the past year and when
I
found it, it was less than 100 miles from where I live. There are still a few
reasonable buys out there; save your money and keep looking.
Joel Holmes
60 BT7
Robert J Dunn wrote:
> I owned a 1960 Healey 3000 about 38 years ago.Had to sell due to $ and kids.
> Have the bug again. I,m not really interested in doing any restoration. Budget
> allows for around $ 20,000. Can something nice be had in that price range ?
From "Eyvind Larssen" <seel at online.no>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:22:03 +0100
Subject: SV: Float chamber overflow
Hi, Tom --
Appart from what Steve says........
And yes, been there done that......
I changed my needle-seating.... to no awail....... same thing over & over
again.
At last I desided to put an end to the problem.. that is.... my problem ended
anyway.
I cut the fuelhose near the carbs and inserted a fuelfilter there... the cheap
plastic-bowl type you get EVERYWHERE.. (even at my local gas-station).....
Never happened since.
One thought though....... your gas-tank might be old........................
E.Larssen 60BT7
Hello Listers,
> >The rear HD8 carb on my BJ8 is experiencing serious fuel overflow. With
> the
> >unnerving way these things choose to happen, this started after 1000 miles
> >of carefree motoring just as I was in line for a Technical Control here in
> >Belgium!
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:45:18 EST
Subject: Re: side exhaust thread revisited
I have been told that one of the most useful things that can be done to a
Healey engine is to relieve the exhaust manifold -- removing metal on the
right-angle corners in the manifold so that exhaust gases aren't as blocked
when they exit the cylinders. Do the gurus of the past have anything to say
for or against this relatively simple modification?
Cheers
Gary
In a message dated 11/26/00 11:21:53 PM, wingracer@email.msn.com writes:
<< I loved this rag as their (and it's predecessor,
Speed Age), tech articles by them and also Paul
VanValkenburg (sp?) got me on the right path on how
to make HP, and improve a car's performance in
general. >>
From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:52:18 -0800
Subject: RE: side exhaust thread revisited
I don't know about the manifold ends, but long tube headers (not the short
factory style) certainly wake up the mid range.
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
-----Original Message-----
From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 8:45 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: side exhaust thread revisited
I have been told that one of the most useful things that can be done to a
Healey engine is to relieve the exhaust manifold -- removing metal on the
right-angle corners in the manifold so that exhaust gases aren't as blocked
when they exit the cylinders. Do the gurus of the past have anything to say
for or against this relatively simple modification?
Cheers
Gary
In a message dated 11/26/00 11:21:53 PM, wingracer@email.msn.com writes:
<< I loved this rag as their (and it's predecessor,
Speed Age), tech articles by them and also Paul
VanValkenburg (sp?) got me on the right path on how
to make HP, and improve a car's performance in
general. >>
From L W <brshwrks at bellatlantic.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:58:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: side exhaust thread revisited
Hi all:
Reading your tuning comments with interest. Do you know of any such
articles that deal strictly with the Healey 100?
lance
54 bn1
------Original Message------
From: "Greg Monfort" <wingracer@email.msn.com>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: November 27, 2000 6:09:49 AM GMT
Subject: Re: side exhaust thread revisited
I loved this rag as their (and it's predecessor,
Speed Age), tech articles by them and also Paul
VanValkenburg (sp?) got me on the right path on how
to make HP, and improve a car's performance in
general.
There's a lot of other stuff involved in increasing
efficiency, but a rule-of-thumb for determining the
length of the exhaust path from the valve to free air
is: 204,000/the RPM you want best efficiency of what
you've got. So if you want to maximize grunt out of a
corner at 1500RPM, then a total pathlength of ~136"
will get you in the ballpark, though of course you
still have to experiment with different lengths
around this figure. Pipes this long will limit topend
RPM somewhat. If you're roadracing with a 5500RPM
redline, then a ~37" pathlength.
BTW, it doesn't matter whether it a torquer or not,
the gas slug velocity needs to be 200-300ft/sec. For
this reason, the pipe diameter needs to reflect this,
and why the smaller the cylinder's displacement and
the lower the peak RPM, the smaller the diameter of
the intake and exhaust plumbing for best efficiency.
GM
----- Original Message -----
>
> when we were last on this subject, it kept sticking
in the back of my mind something i read somewhere
having to do with the best performance on a healey 6,
the exhaust needed to extend all the way to the rear
of the car.
>
> while in the throes of moving this weekend, i came
across the famous SIX SLUG SLUGGER article from the
august 1961 issue of SPORTS CAR GRAPHIC. the article
was written by jerry titus and john christy
concerning all of the modifications done to the early
3000's by HOLLYWOOD SPORTS CARS. HSC prepared many
of the early hot west coast sports car racers.
>
> "A couple of things should be pointed out
concerning fuel-air flow and breathing in the Healey
engines. First, since these are torque engines they
depend on fairly fast moving mixtures. To this end
the intake ports must not be gouged out to sewer-pipe
dimensions; they should be cleaned out and polished
but at most no more than 1/32 of an inch should be
taken out at any given edge. The valve throats can
be taken out and the valves countersunk slightly to
good effect. Finally, never get the idea that what's
good for a Bristol is good for a Healey in the
exhaust department. Quite often we've seen short
side exhausts used on a Healey and they sound
wonderful. There's only one trouble; they cut the
bottom-end power absolutely dead, especially when a
hot cam is used. Pipes, either muffled or unmuffled
and straight through, should run the full length of
the automobile and emerge out the back and at the
same upward angle as the stock units. An eighth to a
quarter-inch larger!
> diamet
> er tail-pipe to match the manifold down-pipes can
be used to get the gas out. To use one Healey
expert's sound advice: Use the right cam, keep the
velocities up and feed it."
>
>
> jerry wall
From "Brad Weldon" <brad at bradw.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:55:16 -0800
Subject: nice Healey for ~ $20,000 (was RE: )
Hi Robert,
Check out http://www.healey.org/buyers-price-guide.shtml
Also, you local Healey or British car club would be a valuable source of
information on which vehicles in your area are up for sale.
Brad
'55 Hundred
BN1 #226796
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-healeys@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-healeys@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Robert J Dunn
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 3:26 AM
> To: healeys
> Subject:
>
>
>
> I owned a 1960 Healey 3000 about 38 years ago.Had to sell due to
> $ and kids.
> Have the bug again. I,m not really interested in doing any
> restoration. Budget
> allows for around $ 20,000. Can something nice be had in that
> price range ?
From Lynn and Jean Neff <lynnneff at springnet1.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:25:06 -0600
Subject: Insurance
I know. This subject was plastered all over the list for quite a while.
Here's my question. When I began checking with the well known markets,
the problem was that I like to drive my Healey to work. This seems to
be a big "no-no."
What markets have you found willing to cover this type of usage?
Thanks.
Lynn BT7
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:42:14 -0800
Subject: RE: Insurance
I go through Farmer's insurance just like my normal car. It's good coverage
and I am limited to a certain number of miles per year regardless of where I
am going. Not too expensive either.
Jonathan Lane
-----Original Message-----
From: Lynn and Jean Neff [mailto:lynnneff@springnet1.com]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 10:25 AM
To: Healeys
Subject: Insurance
I know. This subject was plastered all over the list for quite a while.
Here's my question. When I began checking with the well known markets,
the problem was that I like to drive my Healey to work. This seems to
be a big "no-no."
What markets have you found willing to cover this type of usage?
Thanks.
Lynn BT7
From "Lee S. Mairs" <lmairs at cox.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:51:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Insurance
My Met Life agent was more than willing, but his price was four times the
classic car insurance cost restricting driving.
---
Lee Mairs
'62 Mk II Tri-carb
---
Whoever called it necking was a poor judge of anatomy.
--Groucho Marx
> What markets have you found willing to cover this type of usage?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lynn BT7
From "David Ward" <david at bighealey.ltd.uk>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:02:45 -0000
Subject: WEB Site updated
Listers, I have recently updated my WEB Site with recent pictures and
content. The bikini top found in my BN2 can be seen under the work in
progress section. No one has claimed it yet!!!
Also, no information as yet on the auction of the 1964 Ex works Healey 767
KNX, I expect to receive this in the next week to ten days. This will be
posted on the site when available.
Regards
David
David Ward
Big Healey
Tel: +44 1623 871908
Fax: +44 1623 871908
E-Mail: david@bighealey.ltd.uk
http://www.bighealey.ltd.uk
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:37:00 EST
Subject: Re: Insurance
In a message dated 11/27/00 10:28:05 AM, lynnneff@springnet1.com writes:
<< When I began checking with the well known markets,
the problem was that I like to drive my Healey to work. This seems to
be a big "no-no."
What markets have you found willing to cover this type of usage? >>
None, unfortunately. Certainly not at classic car rates. In fact, while
coverages differ among companies (some with mileage limits and strict usage
limits, some more relaxed) they all agree that they do not insure classic
cars that are driven as work commuters, even on an occasional basis. I don't
think it would necessarily void the insurance for other claims if you did
drive the car to work, but I suspect you'd have difficulty claiming on an
accident or theft occuring in your company parking lot or between home and
work during commute hours on a weekday.
About the only option you have, and it's a mixed one, is to have your Healey
insured for regular usage on a stated value policy and have a current
appraisal filed with your agent. In that event, you might be able to get
most of the stated value in the event of a serious accident. However, unlike
the "agreed value" policies that are typical of classic car coverage, there's
no guarantee that you'd get all of the stated value even in the event of a
total loss. And you'd be paying a lot more for your coverage.
All in all, you're probably better off cost-wise and risk-wise, coming home
early on those nice days and taking the car out for a drive, insured on an
agreed value classic policy with lenient usage limits rather than paying for
a regular coverage policy or risking driving to work under your classic car
policy.
Cheers
Gary
From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:57:26 -0800
Subject: RE: Float chamber overflow
I just bought a spare float to carry around in the car. This problem seems
to be getting more common.
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
From "Don Yarber" <dyarber at dynasty.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:12:42 -0600
Subject: Rear Wheel Cover Panels for BN7
Help!
I'm getting ready to undertake the covering of the panels that go right
behind the seats on my BN7. I've got all the wood pieces and a general idea
of how to go about it. Any words of wisdom? Has anyone ever done this
before? (I'm sure someone at the factory has, but I'm talking someone who
can help me by giving some advice).
Thanks in advance.
Don
BN7
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The
Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the
difference.
From "Merchant, Adnan" <Adnan.Merchant at mkg.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:26:00 -0600
Subject: Over or Under
Hi,
I may have asked this question before and I apologize for that but I'm still
confused....
Does the front shroud (BJ8) sit on top of the frame extensions or should it
be pulled under it? I've heard both and it may be that the factory did
them randomly.
My personal feeling is that it should rest on top and here's why: to get the
shroud flange to tuck under the frame extension requires that the shroud be
placed on the scuttle, thereby lining up on the scuttle and front
cross-brace and then the lower edge be pulled forward and down. I don't
think one can install the shroud by first positioning the flange under the
frame as the cross-brace gets in the way.
Aside from the possibility of damaging the shroud by pulling on it, one also
loses the means to adjust the lower face of the shroud to achieve uniform
gap with the splash apron. I agree that it doesn't look as neat having the
shroud sit on the frame but the bumper pretty much hides all the busy bits
under there.
Can anyone help resolve this?
Thanks,
Adnan
From Rmoment at aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:58:58 EST
Subject: Re: Over or Under
In a message dated 11/27/2000 3:27:07 PM Mountain Standard Time,
Adnan.Merchant@mkg.com writes:
<<
Does the front shroud (BJ8) sit on top of the frame extensions or should it
be pulled under it? I've heard both and it may be that the factory did
them randomly.
>>
The shroud goes UNDER the tabs extending forward fromt he frame. Also, the 4
pan head screws that attach it are inserted downwards, through the tabs and
then the shroud.
Roger
From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:07:13 -0800
Subject: FW: side exhaust thread revisited
-----Original Message-----
From: Freese, Ken
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 2:09 PM
To: 'L W'
Subject: RE: side exhaust thread revisited
Lance,
Try these.
TUNE UP CLINIC AUSTIN-HEALEY COREY,BILL Road & Track 3/1/1956
TUNE UP CLINIC COREY,BILL Road & Track 7/1/1956
TUNE UP CLINIC--AUSTIN-HEALEY 100 COREY,BILL Road & Track
AuSTRALIAN VERSION, 1956-
Tuning the Austin Healey Kincheloe, Maj. Bill Sports Cars
Illustrated 9/1/1955 also Androni AH valve cover,
More Horses for the Healey Sports Cars Illustrated 8/1/1956
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
From: L W [mailto:brshwrks@bellatlantic.net]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 8:58 AM
To: Greg Monfort; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: side exhaust thread revisited
Hi all:
Reading your tuning comments with interest. Do you know of any such
articles that deal strictly with the Healey 100?
lance
54 bn1
------Original Message------
From: "Greg Monfort" <wingracer@email.msn.com>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: November 27, 2000 6:09:49 AM GMT
Subject: Re: side exhaust thread revisited
I loved this rag as their (and it's predecessor,
Speed Age), tech articles by them and also Paul
VanValkenburg (sp?) got me on the right path on how
to make HP, and improve a car's performance in
general.
There's a lot of other stuff involved in increasing
efficiency, but a rule-of-thumb for determining the
length of the exhaust path from the valve to free air
is: 204,000/the RPM you want best efficiency of what
you've got. So if you want to maximize grunt out of a
corner at 1500RPM, then a total pathlength of ~136"
will get you in the ballpark, though of course you
still have to experiment with different lengths
around this figure. Pipes this long will limit topend
RPM somewhat. If you're roadracing with a 5500RPM
redline, then a ~37" pathlength.
BTW, it doesn't matter whether it a torquer or not,
the gas slug velocity needs to be 200-300ft/sec. For
this reason, the pipe diameter needs to reflect this,
and why the smaller the cylinder's displacement and
the lower the peak RPM, the smaller the diameter of
the intake and exhaust plumbing for best efficiency.
GM
----- Original Message -----
>
> when we were last on this subject, it kept sticking
in the back of my mind something i read somewhere
having to do with the best performance on a healey 6,
the exhaust needed to extend all the way to the rear
of the car.
>
> while in the throes of moving this weekend, i came
across the famous SIX SLUG SLUGGER article from the
august 1961 issue of SPORTS CAR GRAPHIC. the article
was written by jerry titus and john christy
concerning all of the modifications done to the early
3000's by HOLLYWOOD SPORTS CARS. HSC prepared many
of the early hot west coast sports car racers.
>
> "A couple of things should be pointed out
concerning fuel-air flow and breathing in the Healey
engines. First, since these are torque engines they
depend on fairly fast moving mixtures. To this end
the intake ports must not be gouged out to sewer-pipe
dimensions; they should be cleaned out and polished
but at most no more than 1/32 of an inch should be
taken out at any given edge. The valve throats can
be taken out and the valves countersunk slightly to
good effect. Finally, never get the idea that what's
good for a Bristol is good for a Healey in the
exhaust department. Quite often we've seen short
side exhausts used on a Healey and they sound
wonderful. There's only one trouble; they cut the
bottom-end power absolutely dead, especially when a
hot cam is used. Pipes, either muffled or unmuffled
and straight through, should run the full length of
the automobile and emerge out the back and at the
same upward angle as the stock units. An eighth to a
quarter-inch larger!
> diamet
> er tail-pipe to match the manifold down-pipes can
be used to get the gas out. To use one Healey
expert's sound advice: Use the right cam, keep the
velocities up and feed it."
>
>
> jerry wall
From "Ron Schonscheck" <schonny at y2consult.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:03:16 -0700
Subject: Re: Engine rebuilding
excellent advice
----- Original Message -----
From: <HLYDOC@aol.com>
To: <hallc@vianet.on.ca>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: Engine rebuilding
>
> Tim: We have been doing this for many years and have done all sorts of
> combinations of engine rebuilds. It all depends on what you want when you
are
> finished, do you want a new engine, or do you want an engine that has been
> only half done?
>
> When you do a rebuild in the chassis you are only doing half a job you are
> unable to replace many parts that are worn. Such as cam bearings, timing
> chain, tensioner, and the front and rear main bearings. Also unless you
are
> very carefull and experienced i would not recomend replacing the top main
> bearing shells they are tricky to replace.
>
> My recomenation would be that if you are planning on keeping this car for
a
> long time and want to get peak reliability out of the car you should
remove
> the engine and do it correctly. It is not that big of a job to remove the
> engine from the car, and you will be able to detail under the hood at the
> same time. Making the underhood area look as good as the engine will run
when
> you are finished.
>
> David Nock
> President/Service Manager
> British Car Specialists
> 2060 N Wilson Way
> Stockton Calif. 95205
> 209-948-8767 fax 209-948-1030 email HealeyDoc@aol.com
> Visit our new web site at <A
HREF="http://britishcarspecialists.com/";>
> BritishCarSpecialists.com</A>
> ========================================
> Tech Talk Books available for Austin Healey, MG, and Triumph.
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From "Greg Monfort" <wingracer at email.msn.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 01:25:16 -0500
Subject: Re: side exhaust thread revisited
Any mismatch or restriction causes a partial
reversion (and therefore a time delay) in the
intake/exhaust pulses, pretty much destroying
whatever the designed tuning frequency is.
I don't recall anything specific to the Healey beyond
the usual porting, polishing, etc., but matching the
manifolds to the head and removing any flow
restrictions is beneficial to any motor.
GM
----- Original Message -----
> I have been told that one of the most useful things
that can be done to a
> Healey engine is to relieve the exhaust manifold --
removing metal on the
> right-angle corners in the manifold so that exhaust
gases aren't as blocked
> when they exit the cylinders. Do the gurus of the
past have anything to say
> for or against this relatively simple modification?
>
> Cheers
> Gary
From ynotink <ynotink at qwest.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:25:26 -0700
Subject: Re: Fuel efficiency "minimal Healey content"
Good point, instead of restoration I think we
should refer to our hobby as
recycling. That might make it more socially
acceptable, or politically
correct as the case may be.
Bill Lawrence
Albuquerque, NM
Krazy Kiwi wrote:
> This is a question that has perplexed me for a very long time. With all
> the inquiring minds out there in Healey Land does anyone have a
> realistic answer.
>
> I have read that it takes 5 times as much energy to build an automobile
> as the same automobile will use in its lifetime. Why do we not
> concentrate our efforts on prolonging the life of vehicles rather than
> decreasing the amount of fuel that they use?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Mike Salter
>
> www.precisionsportscar.com
From TBanks at LEVI.com
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:01:57 -0800
Subject: RE: Float chamber overflow - Conclusion
Thanks to all who responded. It was the leaking float. A new float has
cured the problem. There was a fair amount of fine crud in the bottom of
the float chamber, but I'm going to run with it as is for a while before
deciding whether to install a fuel filter or not.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Banks, Tom
Sent: 27 November 2000 09:03
To:
Subject: Float chamber overflow
Hello Listers,
The rear HD8 carb on my BJ8 is experiencing serious fuel overflow. With the
unnerving way these things choose to happen, this started after 1000 miles
of carefree motoring just as I was in line for a Technical Control here in
Belgium!
I've taken a look at the needle and seating and both look clean and
unmarked. The float is, well, floating. The top of the float (it is the
brass type) sits just above the fuel surface in the full chamber. Twice now
I've had the top off the chamber. The needle is seated after reassembly
(i.e. no fuel flow with ignition on, once chambers are full), but very
shortly after startup the problem returns (and stays).
So I have a couple of questions....
If the needle/seating need replacing is that obvious from visual
examination? I can't see any damage, but should they be replaced anyway?
How much buoyancy should the float have? Is it possible it has leaked fuel
and therefore is not exerting sufficient upward force on the needle?
Grateful for ideas,
Tom Banks
'64 BJ8
From John Harper <John at jharper.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:24:06 +0000
Subject: Re: SV: Float chamber overflow
>One thought though....... your gas-tank might be old........................
I had just this problem with an old tank where very fine rust got under
the float valves. As I have a switch on my fuel supply I was able to
switch off the pump whilst driving and allow the chambers to empty. As
soon as the engine started to die I switched the pump back on. The rush
of new fuel usually cleared the problem; for a while.
All the best
--
John Harper
From Jerry Wall <jwbn6 at iopener.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 05:40:58 -0600
Subject: 100 sales price
hi bob-
I have a 1955 healey 100 magazine ad, "he's the man who drives the
austin-healey", which depicts the price at $2985, fully equipped.
happy healeying,
jerry wall
From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 05:07:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 2001 Austin-Healey Calendar !
Hi all,
The finishing touches are being put on the Austin-Healey Club USA's 2001
Austin-Healey Calendar, and it will be ready to ship in just a couple of
weeks. The calendar is available to both members and non-members. Members
should order theirs (at $5 each) when renewing their membership -- there's a
place right on the membership renewal form to order calendars.
Non-members can get one (or more!) by sending $7 ($10 outside North America)
made payable to "Austin-Healey Club USA" to:
Austin-Healey Calendar
8002 NE Hwy 99
Ste B PMB 424
Vancouver WA 98665-8813
The 2001 calendar follows in the pattern of this year's calendar by
highlighting Healey history and including original, period photos, some of
which have never before been published. This year's calendar features Pat
Moss and the Big Healeys that she drove for the BMC team. It is sold out
and is already virtually a collector's item.
The 2001 Calendar features the Morley twins and the Big Healeys they drove
for the BMC Team. While Pat Moss was undoubtedly the most successful female
driver of the Big Healey, Don Morley was probably the overall single most
successful driver of the marque (on the European rally circuit).
For the 2001 calendar we were very fortunate to borrow twelve original,
period photos from Don Morley himself. Some of these photos have never
before been published, and all are great glimpses of Healey history. The
captions were written by none other than John Sprinzel.
Friends, we work hard to produce a really special calendar, unavailable
anywhere else, and offered at a token price that just covers our expenses.
We hope you'll take advantage of this offer and order one (or more!) of
these calendars soon, before we ship the initial batch in a couple of weeks.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
healey-dot-org
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From jclose at sduhsd.k12.ca.us
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:16:41 -0800
Subject: Re[2]: Fuel efficiency "minimal Healey content"
Hey, that's great. We've been politically correct all along, even though many of
us probably didn't know..... - JohnC
From "Larry Hewlett" <hewlett at cablelan.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:50:47 -0800
Subject: Paint Coes & Tube Shocks
This is my first request for information via the Healey List and will likely
have many more as I am starting to rebuild a 1963 BJ7 with some minor
modifications.
I am trying to find a current paint code for Healey Blue (BU-2). The paint
rep for the body shop which will be doing the painting can only find the code
for Ice Blue (BU-2). I notice on the front cover of the" A-H Restoration Guide
by Gary Anderson & Roger Moment" that there 3 distinct shades of Healey Blue
on the 3 cars. I would like to duplicate the shade on the BJ8 in the
back.???
Does anyone make a tube shock conversion for the rear?? Or have plans for
bracket fabrication??
Thanks
Larry Hewlett
'63 BJ7
Peachland, B.C.
From "Ron Yates" <dipstickdigest at ctaz.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:55:46 -0700
Subject: Re: 100 sales price
To continue this a tad farther.
In the 1954 Pebble Beach Race Program, April 1954, there is an ad
showing a photo of the car (LWD947). Priced at $2985. at coastal port of
entry.
Standard equipment included overdrive, heater and chrome wire wheels. I
think the chrome wires got dropped in place of paint wheels shortly after
real production runs got underway.
In bold face copy were the words "ON DISPLAY SOON AT YOUR NEAREST AUSTIN
DEALER". What that means is that the manufacture of cars was still not up
to speed in April, 1954.
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Wall <jwbn6@iopener.net>
To: <bobjudd@earthlink.net>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 4:40 AM
Subject: 100 sales price
>
> hi bob-
>
> I have a 1955 healey 100 magazine ad, "he's the man who drives the
austin-healey", which depicts the price at $2985, fully equipped.
>
> happy healeying,
>
> jerry wall
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:50:45 EST
Subject: Re: 100 sales price
In a message dated 11/28/00 9:53:32 AM, dipstickdigest@ctaz.com writes:
<< To continue this a tad farther.
In the 1954 Pebble Beach Race Program, April 1954, there is an ad
showing a photo of the car (LWD947). Priced at $2985. at coastal port of
entry. >>
I've got a Berkeley Barb newspaper from mid-1955 with a similar ad for the
100 in it. Looking at the rest of the newspaper, an Arrow dress shirt was
selling for $4.95 at the haberdasher's near the campus that's still in
business today, and one of the better restaurants was advertising a full
dinner with wine for $5.95. So, figure a multiplier for inflation of about
ten to one and that car today would be selling for $29,850 plus dealer prep
and taxes. Sounds about like a Z3.
Cheers
gary
From Kit Henry <khenry at hmcltd.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:55:32 -0500
Subject: They Have To Go
Ok Folks:
These motors have got to go. Will take $1100.00 for both motors, or
$550.00 a piece.
Complete Tri-Carb
Dual Carb minus the carbs.
Come and get em.
--
Kit Henry
Henry MotorSports Inc.
419-483-5064
http://www.henrymotorsports.com
E-Mail: khenry@hmcltd.net
From Trmgafun at aol.com
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:24:30 EST
Subject: Stocking Stuffers
Hi, hi, hi, ho, ho, ho,
I have some unneeded items that I recently purchased "new" with a bulk of other
items that I needed, and would like to sell the rest. I thought I'd offer them
to my British car friends before I try elsewhere. For those of you who don't
believe in bargains, or if your British car is never in need of electrical
assistance, please hit the delete key right now......
87 Series Fluke digital hand held multi-meter. A very nice, top quality, long
lasting meter with deluxe features. Lists for $350, I'm selling it for $125.
http://www.fluke.com/products/home.asp?SID=9&AGID=6&PID=3617
High accuracy hand held Fluke model 51 digital thermometer for use with J or K
type thermocouple. Has large liquid crystal display. The K type thermocouple
is supplied with the unit. Temperature range is -200C to 1370C or -328F to
2498F. Lists for $155, I'm selling it for $60.
Extech digital hand held multi-meter No. 380285. Lists for $200, I'm selling
it for $85.
http://www.extech.com/
Extech hand held insulation tester No. 380360. Used for testing appliances,
motor windings, wire insulation. Lists for $200, I'm selling it for $85.
Extech hand held multi-scope/oscilloscope/multi-meter, No. 381263. Lists for
$300, I'm selling it for $105.
These items are brand new, and were purchased through a company liquidation.
I'm selling them as is, just like I bought them. Prices include shipping in
the U.S.
Scott Helms
Trmgafun@aol.com
From "Michael Lempert" <mdlempert at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:41:21 -0500
Subject: Re: side exhaust thread revisited
Does this suggest that some amount of back pressure is good ? I'm
considering headers for my BN7 (with BJ8 engine and carbs) and am wondering
if the increased flow of the 2" pipes will bring the expected kick.
Regards,
Mike L.
Bridgewater, NJ
'56 BN2
'59 BN7
'60 BT7
'60 Bugeye
'67 Mustang 2+2
'70 E-Type
'79 Midget
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:55:39 -0600
> From: Jerry Wall <jwbn6@iopener.net>
> Subject: side exhaust thread revisited
>
> when we were last on this subject, it kept sticking in the back of my mind
something i read somewhere having to do with the best performance on a
healey 6, the exhaust needed to extend all the way to the rear of the car.
>
> while in the throes of moving this weekend, i came across the famous SIX
SLUG SLUGGER article from the august 1961 issue of SPORTS CAR GRAPHIC. the
article was written by jerry titus and john christy concerning all of the
modifications done to the early 3000's by HOLLYWOOD SPORTS CARS. HSC
prepared many of the early hot west coast sports car racers.
>
> "A couple of things should be pointed out concerning fuel-air flow and
breathing in the Healey engines. First, since these are torque engines they
depend on fairly fast moving mixtures. To this end the intake ports must
not be gouged out to sewer-pipe dimensions; they should be cleaned out and
polished but at most no more than 1/32 of an inch should be taken out at any
given edge. The valve throats can be taken out and the valves countersunk
slightly to good effect. Finally, never get the idea that what's good for a
Bristol is good for a Healey in the exhaust department. Quite often we've
seen short side exhausts used on a Healey and they sound wonderful. There's
only one trouble; they cut the bottom-end power absolutely dead, especially
when a hot cam is used. Pipes, either muffled or unmuffled and straight
through, should run the full length of the automobile and emerge out the
back and at the same upward angle as the stock units. An eighth to a
quarter-inch larger!
> diamet
> er tail-pipe to match the manifold down-pipes can be used to get the gas
out. To use one Healey expert's sound advice: Use the right cam, keep the
velocities up and feed it."
>
> maybe we can get greg kauffman or gary anderson to reproduce the entire
article, with photos, and its sequel on obtaining 200hp at the rear wheels
in a future issue of AH MAGAZINE or BRITISH CAR.
>
> happy healeying,
>
> jerry wall
>
> ------------------------------
From "Robert Barback" <tippytoo at eatel.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:47:28 -0600
Subject: Rear Disc Brakes
Any body out there have or know of where I might find a set of rear disc
brakes from an 82-92 Camaro or Firebird . Need the backing plates , Calipers
and holders
and hardware W/Wo Rotors. Looking to keep between $100 -125 I am looking to
do some play work and don't want to invest to much in what might not work.
Please contact me off the list. Thanks Robert
From Jae Lee <jlee at cogentlight.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:57:29 -0800
Subject: FW: BN1 or BJ8?
I am writing to thank all those who replied to my original thread last
month.
Your shared honest opinions were of great assistance.
Well, I found the car that winked at me and I am now a first-time proud
owner of a healey blue, BN 1 circa 1954. I purchased the car over this past
Thanksgiving and I consider it the best Christmas gift I ever got from
Santa.
Thank you and happy healeying,
Jae Lee
'54 BN 1 from Santa Claus
From JSoderling at aol.com
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:17:04 EST
Subject: Re: Recycling Healeys
In a message dated 11/27/00 10:32:20 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ynotink@qwest.net writes:
<<
Good point, instead of restoration I think we
should refer to our hobby as
recycling. That might make it more socially
acceptable, or politically
correct as the case may be.
>>
Bill/Mike,
I really think you are on to something here. We could probably get Federal
Government EPA Recycling funding or grants to restore, ops, "recycle' our
cars! Which one of you is going to write the article for publication in the
Sierra Club Magazine to rationalize all this and sell the concept?
Although the idea is just far out enough for the government to throw money at
without the blessing of the environmental community.
A $10,000 grant would really dress "Erika" up nicely.
John
100-Six Erika the Red
From Jerry Wall <jwbn6 at iopener.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:20:10 -0600
Subject: Re: BN1 or BJ8?
you got yours in dmh's favorite colour. congratulations !!
----- Original Message -----
From: Jae Lee <jlee@cogentlight.com>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: BN1 or BJ8?
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:57:29 -0800
I am writing to thank all those who replied to my original thread last
month.
Your shared honest opinions were of great assistance.
Well, I found the car that winked at me and I am now a first-time proud
owner of a healey blue, BN 1 circa 1954. I purchased the car over this past
Thanksgiving and I consider it the best Christmas gift I ever got from
Santa.
Thank you and happy healeying,
Jae Lee
'54 BN 1 from Santa Claus
From dwflagg at juno.com
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:32:53 -0500
Subject: Re:King Dick Jack
Hi,
I have available a King Dick B 1881 jack. This jack is slightly shorter
than the LJ21 Shelley jack, but almost identical in design. It has been
found in at least one 3000 MK 1 car. It has been restored to concours
condition by Roger Moment. If you are interested please contact me of the
list.
Happy Healeying,
Doug
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From "Keith Pennell" <pennell at whro.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:16:25 -0500
Subject: Van or SUV?
NO HEALEY CONTENT. DELETE IF NOT INTERESTED.
What are your thoughts on this Listers?
A few days ago a friend purchased a new Acura SUV. Don't recall its
designation but he says it is SUV. Its appearance and features are remarkably
like a van. At what point does a van become a SUV and a SUV become a van?
Keith Pennell
BJ8 (neither van nor suv)
BN7 (neither van nor suv?
Pontiac Bonneville (neither van nor suv)
Buick Century (neither van nor suv)
Dodge Dakota (neither van nor suv)
From HLYDOC at aol.com
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:24:57 EST
Subject: Re: FW: BN1 or BJ8?
Jae : Welcome to Healey land where only a few get to experience what life is
all about.
There are many people that I talk to every day that merly say that they want
a Healey, then there are those few special people that go for there dreams
and enter the land of Healeys. Welcome and may you enjoy many miles of
freedom driving your own Healey with top down and that guy in the car next to
you saying " I always wanted one of those".
David Nock
President/Service Manager
British Car Specialists
2060 N Wilson Way
Stockton Calif. 95205
209-948-8767 fax 209-948-1030 email HealeyDoc@aol.com
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From "Keith Pennell" <pennell at whro.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:45:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Over or Under
Roger,
What is correct for the flange running all the way across the front of the
shroud? I have seen it bent rearward to roughly a 90 degree and also bent
up against the backside of the shroud's lower face.
Keith Pennell
> The shroud goes UNDER the tabs extending forward fromt he frame. Also,
the 4
> pan head screws that attach it are inserted downwards, through the tabs
and
> then the shroud.
>
> Roger
From "Shaver, Dave" <DShaver at laga.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:16:19 -0600
Subject: 60 BT7 project FS
1960 Austin healey BT7 project for sale, Car is a complete car with
overdrive and wire wheels, was running and driving when interior and body
was dismantled for restoration , have pictures of before and after. Only
thing missing is windshield frame. asking $5800
Schaumburg Illinois(near Chicago) Dave Shaver W-(847)291-0500 Ext. 266
H-(630)529-1031
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From Louis Galper <lgalper1 at home.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:52:39 -0800
Subject: BN 1/2 throttle linkage
Does anyone have the thread size of the throttle linkage.
It's supposed to be UNF.
Maybe someone is reproducing these?
From Brian Mix <brianmix at home.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:58:39 -0800
Subject: Best Local Healey Club
Hello,
It's renewal time in our club, Austin Healey Club of San Diego, and I've been
thinking; I belong to the best Healey club in the US, maybe the world. I'm not
talking national club/affiliation or charter but local club.
Here is how I measure: We have 12 monthly meetings a year, give points for
driving Healeys and always get a good turnout. On top of those meetings we
usually have around half a dozen tech-sessions and at least that many driving
events. PLUS we throw an annual Healey show "Healeys on the Green", AND are a
major sponsor of San Diego British car day, a 300 British car show.
Of course there are the T-shirts, Sweatshirts, polo-shirts, hats, a monthly
newsletter, webpage, and the annual superbowl chili cook off. Now it may sound
like I'm bragging... Well, I am.
Am I all wet? Is this a normal club? What's the competition like? BTW this is a
friendly competition.
Brian Mix
'55 AH-100 LeMans
http://www.mixed-media.net/100Lemans/
Vice-President Austin Healey Club of San Diego http://www.sdhealey.org/
From "Greg Monfort" <wingracer at email.msn.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 02:08:13 -0500
Subject: Re: side exhaust thread revisited
Correct. It may not have been clear in my previous
posts, but increasing pipe diameter for a given pipe
length shifts the power band higher due to a slowing
of the gas slug, and the raising of the shockwave
reversion frequency. IOW, 2" i.d. pipes for a small
displacement motor is not a good plan unless it has
the fuel system, cam, etc., to wind it to 10,000+RPM,
and you can tolerate zippo torque/narrow powerband.
Assuming a low back pressure muffler/matching exhaust
pipe, a well designed header system for a 3L, 6cyl,
6000RPM redline motor would have 1-7/16" dia. primary
pipes. 2" pipes are more appropriate for a 7L,
6500RPM V8 motor.
That said, I hope these have been designed as part of
a complete exhaust system, with the appropriate back
pressure to get the optimum gas slug speed.
Otherwise, you'll have an exhaust system grossly
mistuned WRT the intake system. Trying to tune the
carbs in this situation can be an exercise in
futility, as I learned many moons ago.
GM
----- Original Message -----
>
> Does this suggest that some amount of back pressure
is good ? I'm
> considering headers for my BN7 (with BJ8 engine and
carbs) and am wondering
> if the increased flow of the 2" pipes will bring
the expected kick.
>
> Mike L.
From "Andy" <healey-100 at hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:12:19 -0800
Subject: Re: Best Local Healey Club
I can't help but notice you did not list a fan to cool down our Healeys! I
believe there is a club out there that could sell you one. :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Mix" <brianmix@home.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 9:58 PM
Subject: Best Local Healey Club
>
> Hello,
>
> It's renewal time in our club, Austin Healey Club of San Diego, and I've
been thinking; I belong to the best Healey club in the US, maybe the world.
I'm not talking national club/affiliation or charter but local club.
>
> Here is how I measure: We have 12 monthly meetings a year, give points for
driving Healeys and always get a good turnout. On top of those meetings we
usually have around half a dozen tech-sessions and at least that many
driving events. PLUS we throw an annual Healey show "Healeys on the Green",
AND are a major sponsor of San Diego British car day, a 300 British car
show.
>
> Of course there are the T-shirts, Sweatshirts, polo-shirts, hats, a
monthly newsletter, webpage, and the annual superbowl chili cook off. Now it
may sound like I'm bragging... Well, I am.
>
> Am I all wet? Is this a normal club? What's the competition like? BTW this
is a friendly competition.
>
>
> Brian Mix
> '55 AH-100 LeMans
> http://www.mixed-media.net/100Lemans/
>
> Vice-President Austin Healey Club of San Diego http://www.sdhealey.org/
From Lynn and Jean Neff <lynnneff at springnet1.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 05:06:00 -0600
Subject: Best Local Healey Club
The San Diego Club sounds great. You have numbers and interest.
There aren't enough Healeys here (Springfield, IL) to duplicate that
kind of activity. Have some of the Clubs had success by including Brits
regardless of Nameplate?
Lynn BT7
From Jerry Wall <jwbn6 at iopener.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 05:25:36 -0600
Subject: Re: Best Local Healey Club
hi brian-
i would agree you have the best weather that could have ever been created to
drive an open car, however, for sheer activity and comraderie check out
www.ntahc.austin1.com
happy healeying,
jerry wall
north texas austin-healey club
ps. we drive our healeys everywhere, such as wcm's in san diego, etc. until a
group from san diego attends a texas healey roundup in april you need to tone
down your bragging rights.<g>
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Mix <brianmix@home.com>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Best Local Healey Club
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:58:39 -0800
Hello,
It's renewal time in our club, Austin Healey Club of San Diego, and I've been
thinking; I belong to the best Healey club in the US, maybe the world. I'm not
talking national club/affiliation or charter but local club.
Here is how I measure: We have 12 monthly meetings a year, give points for
driving Healeys and always get a good turnout. On top of those meetings we
usually have around half a dozen tech-sessions and at least that many driving
events. PLUS we throw an annual Healey show "Healeys on the Green", AND are a
major sponsor of San Diego British car day, a 300 British car show.
Of course there are the T-shirts, Sweatshirts, polo-shirts, hats, a monthly
newsletter, webpage, and the annual superbowl chili cook off. Now it may sound
like I'm bragging... Well, I am.
Am I all wet? Is this a normal club? What's the competition like? BTW this is a
friendly competition.
Brian Mix
'55 AH-100 LeMans
http://www.mixed-media.net/100Lemans/
Vice-President Austin Healey Club of San Diego http://www.sdhealey.org/
From Rmoment at aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:15:35 EST
Subject: Re: Over or Under
In a message dated 11/28/2000 8:50:58 PM Mountain Standard Time,
pennell@whro.net writes:
<< Subj: Re: Over or Under
Date: 11/28/2000 8:50:58 PM Mountain Standard Time
From: pennell@whro.net (Keith Pennell)
Sender: owner-healeys@autox.team.net
Reply-to: pennell@whro.net (Keith Pennell)
To: Rmoment@aol.com
CC: healeys@autox.team.net (Healey List)
Roger,
What is correct for the flange running all the way across the front of the
shroud? I have seen it bent rearward to roughly a 90 degree and also bent
up against the backside of the shroud's lower face.
>>
Since I've sold my 3000 and can't run into the garage to check it, I'll give
an answer based on mly 100 front shroud lower edge. I do believe both were
fabricated the same way.
Starting about 1" to the outboard side of each of the two frame mounting
tabs, and continuing to the outer joint with the wings, the bottom edge was
rolled into a bead, though without any filler wire as the wings have.
The central 80% of the shroud bottom edge, running across the mounting tabs
and between them, is just a flange, bent about 90* to the lower shroud
surface. The transition between the bead at the sides and flange across the
bottom takes about 1-2" and is somewhat gradual.
There should be many cars in your area to examine that will have this done
correctly.
Roger
From "Kocik, Stephen W" <Stephen.Kocik at unisys.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:23:11 -0500
Subject: interior
I've been perusing e-bay and found a rear interior kit for a 100-4. I was
wondering if this would fit an early BN7 2 seater. It's the correct color,
and looks similar to the pieces I need. Any help would be appreciated...
Thanks.
Steve
61 BN7
From Rick Snover <rsnover at ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 06:23:13 -0800
Subject: Re: Best Local Healey Club
At 05:06 AM 11/29/00 -0600, you wrote:
>There aren't enough Healeys here (Springfield, IL) to duplicate that
>kind of activity. Have some of the Clubs had success by including Brits
>regardless of Nameplate?
Las Vegas and Nashville both have active all-marque clubs
(http://www.lvrj.com/communitylink/britishauto/ and
http://www.NashvilleTN.org/NBCC/, respectively. There're probably others.
--
Rick Snover
Editor, Healey Hearsay, and Vice President/Membership Chair - Elect
Austin-Healey Club of San Diego <http://www.sdhealey.org>
From "Lane, Jonathan" <lanej at mossmotors.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 06:37:41 -0800
Subject: RE: Best Local Healey Club
When I lived in Colorado, I was membership chairman for the Rocky Mountain
centre of the MG Car Club. We did a lot of the same things you guys do.
When I was racing at the Steamboat Springs Vintage Races the club rented out
an entire bed and breakfast and probably half the club showed up in British
cars. They are the sponsors of the Glenwood Rally, which at almost 50 years
is the longest running rally in the United States.
I have always been disappointed in the lack of good car clubs in the Santa
Barbara area.
Jonathan Lane
Retail Sales
Moss Motors, Ltd.
(800) 235-6954 x3240
(805) 692-2525 - Fax
lanej@mossmotors.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Mix [mailto:brianmix@home.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 9:59 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Best Local Healey Club
Hello,
It's renewal time in our club, Austin Healey Club of San Diego, and I've
been thinking; I belong to the best Healey club in the US, maybe the world.
I'm not talking national club/affiliation or charter but local club.
Here is how I measure: We have 12 monthly meetings a year, give points for
driving Healeys and always get a good turnout. On top of those meetings we
usually have around half a dozen tech-sessions and at least that many
driving events. PLUS we throw an annual Healey show "Healeys on the Green",
AND are a major sponsor of San Diego British car day, a 300 British car
show.
Of course there are the T-shirts, Sweatshirts, polo-shirts, hats, a monthly
newsletter, webpage, and the annual superbowl chili cook off. Now it may
sound like I'm bragging... Well, I am.
Am I all wet? Is this a normal club? What's the competition like? BTW this
is a friendly competition.
Brian Mix
'55 AH-100 LeMans
http://www.mixed-media.net/100Lemans/
Vice-President Austin Healey Club of San Diego http://www.sdhealey.org/
From John Harper <john at jharper.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:09:11 +0000
Subject: Re: BN 1/2 throttle linkage
Louis
>
>Does anyone have the thread size of the throttle linkage.
>It's supposed to be UNF.
>Maybe someone is reproducing these?
Early 100s had the British 2 B.A. Threads. From chassis number 2233384
(Approximately mid February 1955) these were changed to American 10-32.
The former are readilty available in the UK; the later in the States.
They are not interchangable.
All the best
--
John Harper
From "Don Yarber" <dyarber at dynasty.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:30:15 -0600
Subject: OLD FORDS NOT HEALEY RELATED
I have two old Fords, 1941 flathead V8's that are pretty complete, including
radios. I will sell the two of them for $1200. I don't have pictures
available at the moment, but I will say that they are pretty rusty. Most of
the vital areas are in good shape but would take a lot of time and effort if
anyone is interested. Please contact me off list. This would have to be a
quick sale and there are no titles available. Most states will issue title
as restored junkers.
Don
dyarber@dynasty.net
BN7
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The
Good Fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the
difference.
From "jim t.p. ryan" <ryan at jimryan.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:56:08 -0800
Subject: Not Healey related, but short plea...
Sorry to bomb the list with this, but I couldn't thing of another group to ask
that would appreciate it.
My son has just reached that pinnacle in life...16 and a driver's license.
He is looking for some wheels and has saved $1000. So I'm trying to help him
find something safe, but memorable. We live in the NH area, so winter is a
concern. My feeling is if he could find something late 60's, early 70's that
will get him to school and back but be simple enough for him (and I) to work
on, that would be great. For example, I had my eye on a '72 Plymouth Valiant
with 3 on the tree, but it fell through. Thought that would be a car he would
always remember, easy to work on, and nothing to worry over.
Any pointer's would be great.
Sincerely,
Jim Ryan
64 BJ7
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From Michael Salter <magicare at home.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:07:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Van or SUV?(No Healey content)
That is obvious....
When the majority of the people driving them are women on cell phones!!!
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Keith Pennell wrote:
> NO HEALEY CONTENT. DELETE IF NOT INTERESTED.
>
> What are your thoughts on this Listers?
>
> A few days ago a friend purchased a new Acura SUV. Don't recall its
> designation but he says it is SUV. Its appearance and features are remarkably
> like a van. At what point does a van become a SUV and a SUV become a van?
>
> Keith Pennell
> BJ8 (neither van nor suv)
> BN7 (neither van nor suv?
> Pontiac Bonneville (neither van nor suv)
> Buick Century (neither van nor suv)
> Dodge Dakota (neither van nor suv)
From "Ron Yates" <dipstickdigest at ctaz.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:51:52 -0700
Subject: Re: Best Local Healey Club
Forgive me folks I just gotta get into this.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that we're the best club. In fact I don't
think we're even in the running. In fact I know it. However at this moment
we are the only
Healey club in Arizona (Arizona Social Society of a Healey Owner and Latent
Entrepreneur), and the smallest Healey club in the world!
Our newsletter (the Dipstick Digest) reflects the history of the marque
(races, products, historical tid-bits,etc.), and it's readership represents
some heavy-hitters in the Healey world (here and abroad), and the club is
proud to have them as part of the organization.
Members are encouraged to participate in activities, but are not
required to do so, and no one is asked to hold office or sit a committee.
This is in consideration of the fact that no one lives close to the club
headquarters, and it would indeed be a hardship if one were asked to
participate on a regular basis, particularly in the summer! (117Y
. Listed below
are some of the activities for the coming year. If you're in the
neighborhood come on by.
Activities for 2001:
Double New Years Celebration! We're on a time zone marked by the
Colorado River. I/We start the celebration on the Arizona side and
start/finish again an hour earlier on the Nevada side.
River Run 10,000 motorcycles and one Healey (I think I'll double on one
of my friends bikes next time).
July 4th - Annual Sidewalk egg frying contest in nearby Oatman
Octoberfest - Bands, Brats, and polka-dancin' mit der jungen frau.
River Cruise - hundreds of examples of the hot rod genre from all over
the west congregating at the nearby Casino Row (Laughlin) for a week
of cruisin', bands, neat cars and an occasional LBC.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lynn and Jean Neff <lynnneff@springnet1.com>
To: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 4:06 AM
Subject: Best Local Healey Club
>
> The San Diego Club sounds great. You have numbers and interest.
>
> There aren't enough Healeys here (Springfield, IL) to duplicate that
> kind of activity. Have some of the Clubs had success by including Brits
> regardless of Nameplate?
>
> Lynn BT7
From Fred.Scheuble at triaton-na.com
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:40:35 -0500
Subject: RE: Van or SUV?(No Healey content)
LOL
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Salter [mailto:magicare@home.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 1:08 PM
To: Keith Pennell
Cc: Healey List
Subject: Re: Van or SUV?(No Healey content)
That is obvious....
When the majority of the people driving them are women on cell phones!!!
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Keith Pennell wrote:
> NO HEALEY CONTENT. DELETE IF NOT INTERESTED.
>
> What are your thoughts on this Listers?
>
> A few days ago a friend purchased a new Acura SUV. Don't recall its
> designation but he says it is SUV. Its appearance and features are
remarkably
> like a van. At what point does a van become a SUV and a SUV become a van?
>
> Keith Pennell
> BJ8 (neither van nor suv)
> BN7 (neither van nor suv?
> Pontiac Bonneville (neither van nor suv)
> Buick Century (neither van nor suv)
> Dodge Dakota (neither van nor suv)
From "jim t.p. ryan" <ryan at jimryan.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:39:42 -0800
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
I figured I would get this reaction...;+}
Just to put this to rest let me assure you I have given this a GREAT deal of
thought and mental turmoil. We live 30 mins from his school and this is where
he will drive to and from each day. If he is not driving then one of his
friends will. I have more faith in my own than anybody else's. I don't know
if you have children, but there is no way of stopping him being in cars driven
by new drivers short of locking him up.
We live in a rural area, there is no public transportation. It's nice to be
idealistic and say "I'd NEVER let my kid drive that young", but it just won't
happen. Like I say, if he's not the driver, than somebody else's kid is.
He will have been driving for almost a year at this point, and will be under
tight restrictions for some time.
That's my statement and I'm stickin' to it. I'll parent my kids, you parent
yours. I just don't want to see this simple request go down what can be a very
opinionated rathole.
All this is meant in the friendlyist of ways, Lee.
Sincerely,
Jim Ryan
-----Original Message-----
From: Lee S. Mairs lmairs@cox.rr.com
Sent: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 12:52:31 -0500
To: ryan@jimryan.com
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
Giving a 16 year old kid a car is equivalent to letting a 5 year old play
with a loaded gun!
---
Lee
'62 Mk II Tri-carb
---
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dream only by night .
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From M Brouillette <mbrouill at ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:49:15 -0500
Subject: Gas tank replacements
Folks,
I'm thinking of replacing the gas tank in the BT7 this winter. Who
would
you recommend for buying a tank from and is it worth looking into an
aluminum fuel tank from MOSS?
Mike B
59 BT7
From Terry Blubaugh <tblubaugh at earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:10:05 -0800
Subject: Re: Gas tank replacements
Mike,
I purchased a standard tank from Moss (Goleta) about seven or eight years ago.
The
tank arrived in good condition, fit almost perfectly, and was easy to install.
I did
have one minor problem. The filler pipe was not welded to the tank at the same
angle
as the original. This was easily resolved with a tweak here and a little
bending
there.
Terry Blubaugh
'60 White/red BT7
M Brouillette wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I'm thinking of replacing the gas tank in the BT7 this winter. Who
>would
> you recommend for buying a tank from and is it worth looking into an
> aluminum fuel tank from MOSS?
>
> Mike B
> 59 BT7
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:16:47 EST
Subject: Re: Best Local Healey Club
In a message dated 11/28/00 10:01:26 PM, brianmix@home.com writes:
<< Am I all wet? Is this a normal club? What's the competition like? BTW this
is a friendly competition. >>
My lawyers will be down to explain why I don't want the ballots counted again.
Seriously, your achievements are notable, especially since you don't have
that big a club -- and you managed to sponsor a good regional meet with your
club intact and active after it was over.
Soap box mode on:
The only questions to continue to ask yourselves each year are: "Are we as
officers making sure that new members are welcomed in and given things to do
to make sure they get active and involved as rapidly as possible, and are we
making sure that there are new officers in the pipeline to replace us?" Even
the best of presidents, editors, and activities chairpersons should step
down every few years (they can always come back again later) to make sure
that new blood is given the major responsibilities. I get newsletters from
over 125 clubs here at British Car Magazine and talk to many hobbyists. The
most often repeated concern is "everything in our club is done by the same
handful of people who have been doing it for years, and ....we're getting
tired but can't find replacements...or ... they don't let anyone else run
things and we're getting tired of them. Either way, such a club almost
inevitably goes down the tubes after awhile and only sometimes is revived.
Soap box mode off.
Cheers
Gary Anderson
From "rons" <arjayarjay at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:46:32 +0000
Subject: Re: 100 sales price
Still one more 'tad.'
Why would the price of $2985 surprise anyone? Is it that it appears ultra
low by today's standards? The simple economic fact is that $2985 was roughly
equivalent to $29, 850 of today's dollars. Or doesn't anyone consider
inflation?
Ron
BN1
----------
>From: "Ron Yates" <dipstickdigest@ctaz.com>
>To: "Jerry Wall" <jwbn6@iopener.net>, <bobjudd@earthlink.net>,
<healeys@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: 100 sales price
>Date: Tue, Nov 28, 2000, 5:55 PM
>
>
> To continue this a tad farther.
>
> In the 1954 Pebble Beach Race Program, April 1954, there is an ad
> showing a photo of the car (LWD947). Priced at $2985. at coastal port of
> entry.
>
> Standard equipment included overdrive, heater and chrome wire wheels. I
> think the chrome wires got dropped in place of paint wheels shortly after
> real production runs got underway.
>
> In bold face copy were the words "ON DISPLAY SOON AT YOUR NEAREST AUSTIN
> DEALER". What that means is that the manufacture of cars was still not up
> to speed in April, 1954.
>
> Ron
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jerry Wall <jwbn6@iopener.net>
> To: <bobjudd@earthlink.net>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 4:40 AM
> Subject: 100 sales price
>
>
>>
>> hi bob-
>>
>> I have a 1955 healey 100 magazine ad, "he's the man who drives the
> austin-healey", which depicts the price at $2985, fully equipped.
>>
>> happy healeying,
>>
>> jerry wall
From "Rich C" <rich.chrysler at sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:09:09 -0500
Subject: Re: interior
No, not even close.
There are some reasonably good kits out on the market which will give a
pleasing, fairly close representation of the original designs and specs. If
you want further info on this subject, contact me of list.
Rich Chrysler
----- Original Message -----
From: Kocik, Stephen W <Stephen.Kocik@unisys.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 9:23 AM
Subject: interior
>
> I've been perusing e-bay and found a rear interior kit for a 100-4. I was
> wondering if this would fit an early BN7 2 seater. It's the correct
color,
> and looks similar to the pieces I need. Any help would be appreciated...
> Thanks.
>
> Steve
> 61 BN7
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:21:59 EST
Subject: Re: interior
In a message dated 11/29/00 6:23:37 AM, Stephen.Kocik@unisys.com writes:
<< I've been perusing e-bay and found a rear interior kit for a 100-4. I was
wondering if this would fit an early BN7 2 seater. It's the correct color,
and looks similar to the pieces I need. Any help would be appreciated...
Thanks.
>>
No -- Afraid not. The spare tire was mounted off-center in the BN1/2 and the
battery doors are on an angle so even if you didn't mind having a BN7 that
looked a little "strange" -- it still wouldn't fit.
Cheers
Gary
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:56:02 EST
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
In a message dated 11/29/00 1:45:31 PM, ryan@jimryan.com writes:
<< Giving a 16 year old kid a car is equivalent to letting a 5 year old play
with a loaded gun! >>
I'm sure Charlton Heston and George Bush (couldn't resist adding the latter)
would say that five years old is about the right age for a young'un to learn
to shoot.
In any case, I would guess that most of us started driving right at sixteen,
if not before (I had a "working permit" in Oklahoma that allowed me to drive
-- my 49 chevy -- when I was fifteen on my semi-rural paper route).
If the kid's been raised as well as possible and you trust him enough not to
worry at night, AND a set of strict rules are established -- e.g. back home
by a specified hour; drive only to the place you told us you were going and
directly back and if you need to change your plans, call us first; no
drinking in the car, by anyone in the car -- any suspicion that any of those
rules have been broken and I take your drivers license and keys, any calls
from the police and I won't bail you out until tomorrow morning. -- AND
enforced with absolute consistency, and he'll probably survive to graduate
from high school the same way all of us did.
Cheers
Gary
From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:20:28 -0600
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
Good for you. As a responsible parent no one is in a better position to
decide if your parenting has taken root in your children. Give him the
benefit of the doubt. If he doesn't measure up you can always take his
licence away. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim t.p. ryan" <ryan@jimryan.com>
To: <lmairs@cox.rr.com>
Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
>
> I figured I would get this reaction...;+}
>
> Just to put this to rest let me assure you I have given this a GREAT deal
of thought and mental turmoil. We live 30 mins from his school and this is
where he will drive to and from each day. If he is not driving then one of
his friends will. I have more faith in my own than anybody else's. I don't
know if you have children, but there is no way of stopping him being in cars
driven by new drivers short of locking him up.
>
> We live in a rural area, there is no public transportation. It's nice to
be idealistic and say "I'd NEVER let my kid drive that young", but it just
won't happen. Like I say, if he's not the driver, than somebody else's kid
is.
>
> He will have been driving for almost a year at this point, and will be
under tight restrictions for some time.
>
> That's my statement and I'm stickin' to it. I'll parent my kids, you
parent yours. I just don't want to see this simple request go down what can
be a very opinionated rathole.
>
> All this is meant in the friendlyist of ways, Lee.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Jim Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee S. Mairs lmairs@cox.rr.com
> Sent: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 12:52:31 -0500
> To: ryan@jimryan.com
> Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
>
>
> Giving a 16 year old kid a car is equivalent to letting a 5 year old play
> with a loaded gun!
> ---
> Lee
> '62 Mk II Tri-carb
> ---
> They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who
> dream only by night .
> --Edgar Allen Poe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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center.
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From "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at slip.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:23:18 -0800
Subject: Re: side exhaust thread revisited
According to some of the tuning books, insufficient back pressure -- esp. with
a cam with significant
valve overlap -- will cause a significant part of the intake charge to exit via
the exhaust.
bs
***********************************************************************
Bob Spidell bspidell@slip.net (home)
San Jose, CA. bspidell@teknema.com (work)
`67 Austin-Healey 3000 (mine) `56 100M (Dad's) PP/ASEL
***********************************************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Monfort" <wingracer@email.msn.com>
To: "Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: side exhaust thread revisited
>
> Correct. It may not have been clear in my previous
> posts, but increasing pipe diameter for a given pipe
> length shifts the power band higher due to a slowing
> of the gas slug, and the raising of the shockwave
> reversion frequency. IOW, 2" i.d. pipes for a small
> displacement motor is not a good plan unless it has
> the fuel system, cam, etc., to wind it to 10,000+RPM,
> and you can tolerate zippo torque/narrow powerband.
>
> Assuming a low back pressure muffler/matching exhaust
> pipe, a well designed header system for a 3L, 6cyl,
> 6000RPM redline motor would have 1-7/16" dia. primary
> pipes. 2" pipes are more appropriate for a 7L,
> 6500RPM V8 motor.
>
> That said, I hope these have been designed as part of
> a complete exhaust system, with the appropriate back
> pressure to get the optimum gas slug speed.
> Otherwise, you'll have an exhaust system grossly
> mistuned WRT the intake system. Trying to tune the
> carbs in this situation can be an exercise in
> futility, as I learned many moons ago.
>
>
> GM
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> >
> > Does this suggest that some amount of back pressure
> is good ? I'm
> > considering headers for my BN7 (with BJ8 engine and
> carbs) and am wondering
> > if the increased flow of the 2" pipes will bring
> the expected kick.
> >
> > Mike L.
From JSoderling at aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:43:20 EST
Subject: Re: FW: BN1 or BJ8?
Jae,
Congratulations on you new 100! I know the euphoria of your first Healey. I
was a first time owner about a year ago. I've had more fun this past year
with my "Erika the Red "than ought to be legal. I know you will too.
But the car was only about half the fun. The other half was participating in
the many local AH Club events here in the SF Bay Area. Great tours, shows,
events and people. I would strongly urge you to join a local club, and one
or both of the national clubs. Where do you live? The AHC USA has a web
site with all of the info you'll need at: www.healey.org
The same goes for the AHC of America. www.healeyclub.org
Have a ball.
John
100-Six Erika the red
From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:30:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: 100 sales price
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:46:32 +0000, rons wrote:
>> Why would the price of $2985 surprise anyone? Is it that it appears
ultra low by today's standards? The simple economic fact is that $2985 was
roughly equivalent to $29, 850 of today's dollars. <<
John Wheatley of Worcestershire (for those of you in Palm Beach County,
that's in England, which is located on an island sitting off the coast of
mainland Europe... its east of here rung any bells yet?) tells the story
of buying his BN1, new, in 1954. As a young man without substantial assets
or a high income, it was quite an extravagance, and it was made possible
only by a hefty inheritance. His family nearly disowned him over the
"scandal"! After all, for not much more money you could have bought a
house there at the time, and to throw away that inheritance on a sports car!
Well! However, having owned and enjoyed the car these past 46+ years, I'd
say that it was money well spent.
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
2 x BN2
1 x AN5, and looking for more...
http://www.healey.org
http://vitesse.team.net/mailman/listinfo/ahcusa
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From fred scheuble <ferddy at infree.com>
Date: 29 Nov 00 21:10:47 EST
Subject: 1980 MGB clutch master Cylinder
Hi all, This is not exactly healey related but it is a LBC.I'm looking for a
Clutch master cylinder for my 1980 MGB in the moss catalog it's listed as
part# 180-695. Moss says it back ordered, Victoria British has no listing.
Does anyone know where I can go for this part, or if a rebulding kit is
available and whats involved in rebuilding it.
Thank,
Fred
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:04:21 EST
Subject: Re: 1980 MGB clutch master Cylinder
In a message dated 11/29/2000 8:12:35 PM Central Standard Time,
ferddy@infree.com writes:
>
>
> Hi all, This is not exactly healey related but it is a LBC.I'm looking for
> a
> Clutch master cylinder for my 1980 MGB in the moss catalog it's listed as
>
Almost positive I have in stock, Fred. Want me to double check??
Ed
From "Lee S. Mairs" <lmairs at cox.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:08:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Gas tank replacements
I had to replace the tank in my BT7 the day I finally took possession after
a cross country ride in the back of a covered trailer. I debated long and
hard, but finally chose a top-line steel tank. If the last one lasted 38
years w/o leaking, I should be long gone before this one leaks. Besides. it
will give my son something to remember me by...
---
Lee Mairs
'62 Mk II Tri-carb
---
Karate is a form of martial arts in which people who have had years and
years of training can, using only their hands and feet, make some of the
worst movies in the history of the world.
--Dave Barry
From JSoderling at aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:54:26 EST
Subject: Re: Best Local Healey Club
Brian,
You are right on, the AHCSD is one of the top few local clubs. The Golden
Gate/Central Valley Austin Healey Club is also very active. We had two or
three events each month from March through October. Most had fair to very
good turn participation. Several times we had two events on the same day,
which diluted participation. Anyway, the GGAHC offered plenty of fun events
for everyone. Great with great leadership.
John
100-Six Erika the Red
From "Michael Lupynec" <mlupynec at globalserve.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:35:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
Bleed hose back in the master? - no way hosi !
Mike L.
60A,67E,59Bug
----- Original Message -----
From: jim t.p. ryan <ryan@jimryan.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: November 29, 2000 11:56 AM
Subject: Not Healey related, but short plea...
>
> Sorry to bomb the list with this, but I couldn't thing of
another group to ask that would appreciate it.
>
> My son has just reached that pinnacle in life...16 and a
driver's license.
>
> He is looking for some wheels and has saved $1000. So I'm
trying to help him find something safe, but memorable. We live in
the NH area, so winter is a concern. My feeling is if he could
find something late 60's, early 70's that will get him to school
and back but be simple enough for him (and I) to work on, that
would be great. For example, I had my eye on a '72 Plymouth
Valiant with 3 on the tree, but it fell through. Thought that
would be a car he would always remember, easy to work on, and
nothing to worry over.
>
> Any pointer's would be great.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Jim Ryan
> 64 BJ7
>
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From "Michael Lupynec" <mlupynec at globalserve.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:36:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
Older Suzuki Swift or Metro Geo. Bombed around in a 3 cylinder for
a week about 10 years ago. It was a gas.
Mike L.
60A,67E,59Bug
----- Original Message -----
From: jim t.p. ryan <ryan@jimryan.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: November 29, 2000 11:56 AM
Subject: Not Healey related, but short plea...
>
> Sorry to bomb the list with this, but I couldn't thing of
another group to ask that would appreciate it.
>
> My son has just reached that pinnacle in life...16 and a
driver's license.
>
> He is looking for some wheels and has saved $1000. So I'm
trying to help him find something safe, but memorable. We live in
the NH area, so winter is a concern. My feeling is if he could
find something late 60's, early 70's that will get him to school
and back but be simple enough for him (and I) to work on, that
would be great. For example, I had my eye on a '72 Plymouth
Valiant with 3 on the tree, but it fell through. Thought that
would be a car he would always remember, easy to work on, and
nothing to worry over.
>
> Any pointer's would be great.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Jim Ryan
> 64 BJ7
>
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From "Peter Schauss" <schauss at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:15:59 -0500
Subject: RE: Not Healey related, but short plea...
Perhaps it's just my kids, but unless you give him a complete beater
he will always remember his first car. My son and daughter both
learned to drive on my 1986 beige Jetta (5 speed). Both drove used
it as though it were their own during their senior years in high school,
and both have an incredible affection for it. (My son now uses
it as his "station car" - for those of you who don't live on Long Island,
a station car is the one you use to drive to the station for your 2 hour
commute to New York).
I might add that both of my children had a few "incidents" with the car,
two of which required a bit of body work. They and the car, however,
survived
as did their parents.
Peter Schauss
Long Island, NY
1980 MGB
1963 BJ7
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-healeys@autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-healeys@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of jim t.p. ryan
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 4:40 PM
To: lmairs@cox.rr.com
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
I figured I would get this reaction...;+}
Just to put this to rest let me assure you I have given this a GREAT deal of
thought and mental turmoil. We live 30 mins from his school and this is
where he will drive to and from each day. If he is not driving then one of
his friends will. I have more faith in my own than anybody else's. I don't
know if you have children, but there is no way of stopping him being in cars
driven by new drivers short of locking him up.
We live in a rural area, there is no public transportation. It's nice to be
idealistic and say "I'd NEVER let my kid drive that young", but it just
won't happen. Like I say, if he's not the driver, than somebody else's kid
is.
He will have been driving for almost a year at this point, and will be under
tight restrictions for some time.
That's my statement and I'm stickin' to it. I'll parent my kids, you parent
yours. I just don't want to see this simple request go down what can be a
very opinionated rathole.
All this is meant in the friendlyist of ways, Lee.
Sincerely,
Jim Ryan
-----Original Message-----
From: Lee S. Mairs lmairs@cox.rr.com
Sent: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 12:52:31 -0500
To: ryan@jimryan.com
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
Giving a 16 year old kid a car is equivalent to letting a 5 year old play
with a loaded gun!
---
Lee
'62 Mk II Tri-carb
---
They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who
dream only by night .
--Edgar Allen Poe
___________________________________________________________________________
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From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:28:25 -0600
Subject: Re: 100 sales price
A man's castle is sometimes his car. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Reid Trummel" <AHCUSA@excite.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: 100 sales price
>
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:46:32 +0000, rons wrote:
>
> >> Why would the price of $2985 surprise anyone? Is it that it appears
> ultra low by today's standards? The simple economic fact is that $2985 was
> roughly equivalent to $29, 850 of today's dollars. <<
>
> John Wheatley of Worcestershire (for those of you in Palm Beach County,
> that's in England, which is located on an island sitting off the coast of
> mainland Europe... its east of here rung any bells yet?) tells the story
> of buying his BN1, new, in 1954. As a young man without substantial
assets
> or a high income, it was quite an extravagance, and it was made possible
> only by a hefty inheritance. His family nearly disowned him over the
> "scandal"! After all, for not much more money you could have bought a
> house there at the time, and to throw away that inheritance on a sports
car!
> Well! However, having owned and enjoyed the car these past 46+ years, I'd
> say that it was money well spent.
>
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> Tampa, Florida
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From "ray feehan" <feehanr at cadvision.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:30:50 -0600
Subject: Re: 1980 MGB clutch master Cylinder
I believe there's a rebuilding kit for sale on E-Bay. Not sure if it will
fit your car but it wouldn't hurt to take a look. RayfixitanddriveitFeehan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "fred scheuble" <ferddy@infree.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 8:10 PM
Subject: 1980 MGB clutch master Cylinder
>
> Hi all, This is not exactly healey related but it is a LBC.I'm looking
for a
> Clutch master cylinder for my 1980 MGB in the moss catalog it's listed as
> part# 180-695. Moss says it back ordered, Victoria British has no listing.
> Does anyone know where I can go for this part, or if a rebulding kit is
> available and whats involved in rebuilding it.
>
> Thank,
> Fred
From "jim t.p. ryan" <ryan at jimryan.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 05:38:58 -0800
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
Sound advice, and you can be assured, seat belts have long been the "law" in
our house. To his credit, my son is also a big believer. But he has been
told, seen once without it on, and his driving prives get yanked for 90 days...
I love being king (or at least thinking I am...;+})
Jim
Whatever you do Jim, make sure there are shoulder/lap belts installed and
that he uses them. If he hasn't attended defensive driving class, send
him---for any young person. A few years ago, a retired state policeman made
a video titled "Room to Live". EVERY starting to drive young person should
see this. Anyway, get him off in the safe direction and insist he comply.
Hey, now I'm being the parent----don't mean to be, but in my business i have
seen too many aftermaths of vehicle accidents.
Regards
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: jim t.p. ryan <ryan@jimryan.com>
To: lmairs@cox.rr.com <lmairs@cox.rr.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
>
>I figured I would get this reaction...;+}
>
>Just to put this to rest let me assure you I have given this a GREAT deal
of thought and mental turmoil. We live 30 mins from his school and this is
where he will drive to and from each day. If he is not driving then one of
his friends will. I have more faith in my own than anybody else's. I don't
know if you have children, but there is no way of stopping him being in cars
driven by new drivers short of locking him up.
>
>We live in a rural area, there is no public transportation. It's nice to
be idealistic and say "I'd NEVER let my kid drive that young", but it just
won't happen. Like I say, if he's not the driver, than somebody else's kid
is.
>
>He will have been driving for almost a year at this point, and will be
under tight restrictions for some time.
>
>That's my statement and I'm stickin' to it. I'll parent my kids, you
parent yours. I just don't want to see this simple request go down what can
be a very opinionated rathole.
>
>All this is meant in the friendlyist of ways, Lee.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>Jim Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lee S. Mairs lmairs@cox.rr.com
>Sent: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 12:52:31 -0500
>To: ryan@jimryan.com
>Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
>
>
>Giving a 16 year old kid a car is equivalent to letting a 5 year old play
>with a loaded gun!
>---
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>'62 Mk II Tri-carb
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From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 05:47:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: AHC of Southern Africa Website
For any who follow these matters, the Austin-Healey Club of Southern Africa
has a very nice website. I haven't seen it listed in anyone's "links list,"
so you club webmasters might want to add it. It's at:
http://www.healey.co.za
I looked up the South Africa group earlier this year (via web/e-mail
research) and was pleased to find that they are doing well. Anyway, take a
look at their website!
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
2 x BN2
1 x AN5, and looking for more...
http://www.healey.org
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From "jim t.p. ryan" <ryan at jimryan.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 05:50:45 -0800
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
Gary,
Man, sounds like you were listening in at my house. I do trust him, but the
whole thing still scares the sh** out of me. We all know how hormones affect
synapses. I don't even think he'll be driving after dark for the first six
months or so. Mostly the initial point of this car is so he can get home from
school and not hang around waiting for a ride.
Sincerely,
Jim Ryan
64 BJ7
-----Original Message-----
From: Editorgary@aol.com
Sent: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:56:02 EST
CC: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
In a message dated 11/29/00 1:45:31 PM, ryan@jimryan.com writes:
<< Giving a 16 year old kid a car is equivalent to letting a 5 year old play
with a loaded gun! >>
I'm sure Charlton Heston and George Bush (couldn't resist adding the latter)
would say that five years old is about the right age for a young'un to learn
to shoot.
In any case, I would guess that most of us started driving right at sixteen,
if not before (I had a "working permit" in Oklahoma that allowed me to drive
-- my 49 chevy -- when I was fifteen on my semi-rural paper route).
If the kid's been raised as well as possible and you trust him enough not to
worry at night, AND a set of strict rules are established -- e.g. back home
by a specified hour; drive only to the place you told us you were going and
directly back and if you need to change your plans, call us first; no
drinking in the car, by anyone in the car -- any suspicion that any of those
rules have been broken and I take your drivers license and keys, any calls
from the police and I won't bail you out until tomorrow morning. -- AND
enforced with absolute consistency, and he'll probably survive to graduate
from high school the same way all of us did.
Cheers
Gary
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From "James Sailer" <sailer at srv.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:55:21 -0700
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
Jim.......
We all take risks...... It is part of growing up... I believe it helps shape
us.... I am going to battle the same decisions in a year..... My first road
car (not counting the 1944 Dodge Power Wagon Munitions carrier I owned to
drive on/off the farm) was a 58 Bugeye - with a 1275 spridget motor I stuck
in .. (wish I still had it).... I was reckless I supppose, (I know I drove
fast) but I rebuilt it from scratch and had pride in it.. hence I wasn't
dangerous.... My second car was a mini-cooper a year later which I also
totally rebuilt ... (still barely alive after that one .. WAY TOO MUCH
FUN ),, then a 3000 (that I built from 2 wrecks and drove for a year or
so),,,, then a personal decision at 20 that I'd hurt myself.... I bought A
Land Rover 109......... Lesson for my boy(s)... buy what you want yourself
(maybe with a helping hand), have a stake in the car so you appreciate it,
hopefully improve it, take care of it, and hope that common sense
prevails..... My son is already saving at 14 (last Monday) for his first
car... He thinks he wants a Land Rover 88.... (My daughter (11) on the other
hand wants a Healey.. :>) )
If you're really worried, find an old Land Rover (call Rovers North in
Vermont .. great folk)... It will go slow, guzzle gas, breakdown and require
TLC....
Cheers.
Jim Sailer
66 BJ8
93 Land Rover D110
From "Lee S. Mairs" <lmairs at cox.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:10:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
This does give you one of the last "clubs" you will ever have over him...
---
Lee Mairs
'62 Mk II Tri-carb
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It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can
stand by itself.
--Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia
From JustBrits at aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:31:32 EST
Subject: Re: TR6 mentioned on Law and Order tonight
In a message dated 11/29/2000 11:10:54 PM Central Standard Time,
LBCarCoMail@aol.com writes:
> If anyone watched Law and Order tonight it seems a TR6 was a point of
> interest as they tried to prove the murderer was in NYC with the car as it
>
Even better, at least here in Chicago Market Area, Arby's has intro'ed a new
ad with a Red A-H 3000 !!!!
Ed
From jclose at sduhsd.k12.ca.us
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:38:27 -0800
Subject: Re[2]: Not Healey related, but short plea...
Jim - Because I teach at a high school, I witness teenage driving on a daily
basis. What I have seen supports your preference for having your
carefully-trained, disciplined kid, rather than someone else's, behind the
wheel. That's also how my wife and I will run things when our kids start
driving. - JohnC
From HLYDOC at aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:29:04 EST
Subject: Re: 1980 MGB clutch master Cylinder
Fred , We have new original ones of these in stock, the ones that Moss has
available is a universal Girling cylinder and will not fit correctly on a
later MGB.
David Nock
President/Service Manager
British Car Specialists
2060 N Wilson Way
Stockton Calif. 95205
209-948-8767 fax 209-948-1030 email HealeyDoc@aol.com
Visit our new web site at <A HREF="http://britishcarspecialists.com/";>
BritishCarSpecialists.com</A>
========================================
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From HLYDOC at aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:30:02 EST
Subject: Re: 1980 MGB clutch master Cylinder
Fred , We have new original ones of these in stock, the ones that Moss has
available is a universal Girling cylinder and will not fit correctly on a
later MGB.
David Nock
President/Service Manager
British Car Specialists
2060 N Wilson Way
Stockton Calif. 95205
209-948-8767 fax 209-948-1030 email HealeyDoc@aol.com
Visit our new web site at <A HREF="http://britishcarspecialists.com/";>
BritishCarSpecialists.com</A>
========================================
Tech Talk Books available for Austin Healey, MG, and Triumph.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From "Pagel, John" <John.Pagel at imotors.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:10:18 -0800
Subject: RE: TR6 mentioned on Law and Order tonight
I was a little worried, as I was driving a red TR-6 in '81
John Pagel
Data Manager
Tel: (916) 265-4230
john.pagel@iMotors.com
-----Original Message-----
From: JustBrits@aol.com [mailto:JustBrits@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 7:32 AM
To: LBCarCoMail@aol.com; mgs@autox.team.net; spridgets@autox.team.net;
healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: TR6 mentioned on Law and Order tonight
In a message dated 11/29/2000 11:10:54 PM Central Standard Time,
LBCarCoMail@aol.com writes:
> If anyone watched Law and Order tonight it seems a TR6 was a point of
> interest as they tried to prove the murderer was in NYC with the car as it
>
Even better, at least here in Chicago Market Area, Arby's has intro'ed a new
ad with a Red A-H 3000 !!!!
Ed
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:36:02 EST
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, cheap cars for teens
In a message dated 11/29/00 8:32:25 PM, mlupynec@globalserve.net writes:
<< Older Suzuki Swift or Metro Geo. Bombed around in a 3 cylinder for
a week about 10 years ago. It was a gas.
Mike L.
60A,67E,59Bug >>
Wouldn't go that direction -- these are really LITTLE tin cans, with no crash
protection against some soccer mom in an SUV trying to get her sophomore to
school on time while arranging play dates for her five year old on her cell
phone. Wouldn't even need to be his fault or in his power to avoid.
I'd go with something big, interesting, funky, and easy to work on -- Maybe
the Car Talk favorite, the Dodge Dart.
Cheers
Gary
From Editorgary at aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:51:24 EST
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, teenage driver
In a message dated 11/30/00 5:50:26 AM, ryan@jimryan.com writes:
<< Whatever you do Jim, make sure there are shoulder/lap belts installed and
that he uses them. If he hasn't attended defensive driving class, send
him---for any young person. >>
I try not to do "Me, too" messages, but in this case I do want to underline
this point. I've taken the defensive driving courses offered at Russell,
Skip Barber, and Bondurant as a press freebie (paid for by the car companies,
who think these are a good investment for the press guys who drive their new
cars) and can't say enough good about them. The student typically gets an
hour each in panic braking, lane-change avoidance maneuvers, skid pad, and
then to sweeten the serious side, an hour in one of the little Formula cars
on the slalom course for vehicle handling dynamics.
On the surface these might seem expensive -- typically several hundred
dollars -- but how much have you got invested in the kid already? And every
one of the course instructors is skilled and experienced in training teens.
If they had their way, they'd do it free for every driving age student.
Contrary to some expectations, the kids leave as more sensible drivers,
actually aware of how little they can do when a car goes out of control,
rather than thinking they are Mario Andretti in search of a track.
I think it is the most practical christmas gift you can give a teen. Give
him or her a pair of driving gloves with the gift certificate and you'll be a
hero . . . for at least two or three days.
Cheers
Gary Anderson
editor, British Car Magazine
www.britishcar.com
From "Grant, Michael" <mgrant at mossmotors.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:03:15 -0800
Subject: RE: 1980 MGB clutch master Cylinder
Gentlemen:
There seems to be some confusion on what we carry for the MGB.
In an effort the clear up the matter, I am providing the following
information from Chris Nowlan, who is in charge of Product Development here
at Moss:
"We did have some replacement Lockheed slave master cylinders but rejected
these as unusable. After putting considerable pressure on Lockheed,they
re-introduced the correct "tin can" master cylinders and this is what we
have been selling since June of this year. These are currently out of stock
but should be available within a few weeks.
We only sold a small quantity of the plastic reservoir replacement cylinders
and that was in mid '99. "
If you believe we are providing the "wrong stuff", I would encourage you to
contact us directly and see what the situation is.
Michael Grant
67 BJ8, 61 MGA, 73 MGB GT
Information Systems, Moss Motors, Ltd
mgrant@mossmotors.com
-----Original Message-----
From: HLYDOC@aol.com [mailto:HLYDOC@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 8:30 AM
To: feehanr@cadvision.com; ferddy@infree.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: 1980 MGB clutch master Cylinder
Fred , We have new original ones of these in stock, the ones that Moss has
available is a universal Girling cylinder and will not fit correctly on a
later MGB.
David Nock
President/Service Manager
British Car Specialists
2060 N Wilson Way
Stockton Calif. 95205
209-948-8767 fax 209-948-1030 email HealeyDoc@aol.com
Visit our new web site at <A HREF="http://britishcarspecialists.com/";>
BritishCarSpecialists.com</A>
========================================
Tech Talk Books available for Austin Healey, MG, and Triumph.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From "M.E.&E.A. Driver" <edriver at sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:11:19 -0600
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, teenage driver
Gary
Your point is very well made. In the late 60's I went through the CASC drivers
school which allowed me to campaign a Formula Ford - the experience provided not
only the approach to racing but also to defensive driving. Our sports car club
at
the time ran a series of skid and defensive driving schools for the community.
It
would be very useful if the driver education programs run at schools could find
some way of incorporating a defensive driving component in their programs - as
the attitude change as you describe really does happen.
Kind regards
Ed
Editorgary@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 11/30/00 5:50:26 AM, ryan@jimryan.com writes:
>
> << Whatever you do Jim, make sure there are shoulder/lap belts installed and
> that he uses them. If he hasn't attended defensive driving class, send
> him---for any young person. >>
>
> I try not to do "Me, too" messages, but in this case I do want to underline
> this point. I've taken the defensive driving courses offered at Russell,
> Skip Barber, and Bondurant as a press freebie (paid for by the car companies,
> who think these are a good investment for the press guys who drive their new
> cars) and can't say enough good about them. The student typically gets an
> hour each in panic braking, lane-change avoidance maneuvers, skid pad, and
> then to sweeten the serious side, an hour in one of the little Formula cars
> on the slalom course for vehicle handling dynamics.
>
> On the surface these might seem expensive -- typically several hundred
> dollars -- but how much have you got invested in the kid already? And every
> one of the course instructors is skilled and experienced in training teens.
> If they had their way, they'd do it free for every driving age student.
> Contrary to some expectations, the kids leave as more sensible drivers,
> actually aware of how little they can do when a car goes out of control,
> rather than thinking they are Mario Andretti in search of a track.
>
> I think it is the most practical christmas gift you can give a teen. Give
> him or her a pair of driving gloves with the gift certificate and you'll be a
> hero . . . for at least two or three days.
>
> Cheers
> Gary Anderson
> editor, British Car Magazine
> www.britishcar.com
From "jim t.p. ryan" <ryan at jimryan.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:24:08 -0800
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
Gary,
I looked on the BMW site, but there was nothing. I would really LOVE to enroll
him in one of these schools. I live in Milford, NH, about 12 mi north of the
MA line dur north of Worcester. Any help greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Jim Ryan
-----Original Message-----
From: Editorgary@aol.com
Sent: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:52:56 EST
To: ryan@jimryan.com
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, but short plea...
Do take a look at my other recommendation -- I don't know where you are, but
if you don't know of a race track with a driving school close by, I'll see
what I can find out.
Cheers
gary
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From Fred.Scheuble at triaton-na.com
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:55:13 -0500
Subject: RE: Not Healey related, cheap cars for teens
or chevy nova, hard to kill...
-----Original Message-----
From: Editorgary@aol.com [mailto:Editorgary@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 12:36 PM
To: mlupynec@globalserve.net; ryan@jimryan.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, cheap cars for teens
In a message dated 11/29/00 8:32:25 PM, mlupynec@globalserve.net writes:
<< Older Suzuki Swift or Metro Geo. Bombed around in a 3 cylinder for
a week about 10 years ago. It was a gas.
Mike L.
60A,67E,59Bug >>
Wouldn't go that direction -- these are really LITTLE tin cans, with no
crash
protection against some soccer mom in an SUV trying to get her sophomore to
school on time while arranging play dates for her five year old on her cell
phone. Wouldn't even need to be his fault or in his power to avoid.
I'd go with something big, interesting, funky, and easy to work on -- Maybe
the Car Talk favorite, the Dodge Dart.
Cheers
Gary
From Fred.Scheuble at triaton-na.com
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:38:52 -0500
Subject: RE: [Fwd: The Highjacking of the Presidency]
but he INVENTED the internet! (WINK!)
-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Young [mailto:hoyo@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 11:40 AM
To: austin healey list
Subject: [Fwd: The Highjacking of the Presidency]
Since i haven't been involved in the political thread, and it's almost
over,here's my salvo,
compliments of a co-worker who's been reading healey list mail over my
shoulder.....
HoYo
p.s. he didn't say which Don..................
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From: "Greg Guffey" <GGuffey@dhh.state.la.us>
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Subject: The Highjacking of the Presidency
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Send this one to your buddy Don.
New York Post
The Highjacking of the Presidency
Editorial
11/13/00
THE theft of the presidency proceeds apace.
A hand count of electoral returns has either begun or is about to
begin in several heavily Democratic Florida counties - a shockingly
subjective undertaking, front-end-loaded to deliver the Sunshine State, and
thus the White House, to Vice President Al Gore.
But before that happens, the veep and his high-powered sidekicks
need to think long and hard about what they'll do with a presidency that
would amount to stolen property.
That is, a presidency devoid of moral authority to govern - a
prescription for civil dissonance that will make the Clinton years seem like
small beer in comparison.
We understand that the counting of ballots is part of the political
process - that politicians are, of necessity, involved.
But too much is enough. The "recount" is swarming with Democratic
Party operatives - not one of whom had the decency to do what George Bush's
brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, did at the outset: recuse himself to avoid
the appearance of impropriety.
By now, all America has seen the result: the Florida "hand recount."
This involves putting a disputed ballot up to a lamp and attempting
to divine what it was the voter intended to do - as opposed to what he or
she actually did.
But that's not a recount.
That's egg-candling. And mind-reading.
There's nothing objective about it. Or fair.
And it's wholly unacceptable as the means by which title to the
presidency of the United States of America is delivered to anyone - let
alone the guy who lost the state to George W. Bush, pending the opening of
absentee and overseas ballots.
Bush won the state on the up - by a nano- whisker, to be sure. But
he won.
Then he won the various recounts.
And that should be good enough.
But, of course, it's not.
Not to Al Gore. And not to Bill Daley of Chicago, the head mechanic
in this broad-daylight effort to hot-wire the presidency and drive it off to
Nashville.
Happily, lawyers for Gov. Bush will be in federal court this
morning. Their mission: to stop this sham, and to freeze the process in
place until Friday - when the absentee and overseas ballots are opened and
counted.
And that should be the end of it.
Would that be fair? Yes.
Would it be perfect? Of course not.
But compared to what was going on all day yesterday - Democrats
combing through their most reliable precincts, grubbing for the handful of
votes they need to elect their candidate - it is the difference between
night and day.
Between right and wrong.
Between a legitimate presidency and electoral piracy.
Between a domestically governable country and ceaseless political
discord.
Between the beacon of democracy and reason that America has long
been in a fractious, dangerous world - and the abyss.
That much is at stake this morning.
Nothing less.
From Reid Trummel <AHCUSA at excite.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:44:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Website Link Nominations Sought
Hi all,
In the near future we'll be launching a "Links" page to the Austin-Healey
Club USA website (http://www.healey.org), and I'd like to ask for your
suggestions for useful/interesting/entertaining websites to add to the list.
Right now the links are organized into the following categories (all subject
to change):
References & Resources
Austin-Healey Magazine Advertisers
Austin-Healeys For Sale
Member Websites
Clubs
General Interest
Note: "Austin-Healeys For Sale" is NOT for individual car ads, but rather
it is for websites that list cars for sale, such as Hemmings Motor News's
website, or CollectorCarTrader online, etc.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Reid Trummel
Tampa, Florida
2 x BN2
1 x AN5, and looking for more...
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From dsherm at mindspring.com (Daniel Sherman)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:56:03 GMT
Subject: Re: Not Healey related, cheap cars for teens
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:36:02 EST, you wrote:
>
>In a message dated 11/29/00 8:32:25 PM, mlupynec@globalserve.net writes:
>
><< Older Suzuki Swift or Metro Geo. Bombed around in a 3 cylinder for
>a week about 10 years ago. It was a gas.
>
>Mike L.
>60A,67E,59Bug >>
>
>Wouldn't go that direction -- these are really LITTLE tin cans, with no crash
>protection against some soccer mom in an SUV trying to get her sophomore to
>school on time while arranging play dates for her five year old on her cell
>phone. Wouldn't even need to be his fault or in his power to avoid.
>
>I'd go with something big, interesting, funky, and easy to work on -- Maybe
>the Car Talk favorite, the Dodge Dart.
Speaking of Darts. Anyone want one? Got a 76 Dart, 6 cylinder
automatic. New tires, plus other things. Trying to get 450.00 for
it so I can get it out of my way. Bought it so the one daughter had
something to drive but she went out and bought a 90 dodge shadow and
is now buying a Bronco II.
From "Murphy, David (Southfield)" <david.murphy at honeywell.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:32:16 -0700
Subject: AH3000 III transmission and Smitty Toyota 5 speed conversion.
Per the dipstick, my 3000 seems to consume tranny oil (30wt non detergent)
at the rate of 1 quart per hundred miles. It doesn't leak when parked.
Besides having a bad 3-4 OD inhibiter switch in the shift linkage it
occasionally jumps out of second gear on coast down. Otherwise the tranny
and clutch work fine.
I'm trying to decide whether it is wiser to:
a) just replace the inhibiter switch and live with the oil consumption and
occasional jumping out of second,
b) replace the inhibiter switch, try and repair the second gear retention
problem and fix the oil ejection.
c) do a full tranny overhaul.
d) convert to a Toyota 5 speed.
What does everyone recommend?
Does anyone have any experience they can relate to me on the Smitty
conversion?
Dave Murphy
Dearborn Michigan
From Dean Caccavo <healeybn7 at yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:16:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: AH3000 III transmission and Smitty Toyota 5 speed
Dave,
I converted a worn out non-overdrive BN7 to the Smitty
5 speed to get longer legs on the freeway. It was the
best thing that I could have done to the car given the
cost of upgrading to a Healey overdrive. It is fully
reversable. Nothing is cut or damaged and I figure
that I can always return the car to it's original
condition in a weekend.
Now given that I used to own a BJ8 with overdrive, I
see no reason to convert an existing overdrive car.
When properly maintained the OD is a blast to drive
and just adds to the experience.
If you do get serious about the 5-speed I will be glad
to lend some pointers on installation. For budgeting
expect to spend $1,100+ for parts (kit, trans, clutch,
driveshaft, trans cover, etc) to do it right.
Dean
BN7
--- "Murphy, David (Southfield)"
<david.murphy@honeywell.com> wrote:
>
> Per the dipstick, my 3000 seems to consume tranny
> oil (30wt non detergent)
> at the rate of 1 quart per hundred miles. It doesn't
> leak when parked.
> Besides having a bad 3-4 OD inhibiter switch in the
> shift linkage it
> occasionally jumps out of second gear on coast down.
> Otherwise the tranny
> and clutch work fine.
>
> I'm trying to decide whether it is wiser to:
> a) just replace the inhibiter switch and live with
> the oil consumption and
> occasional jumping out of second,
> b) replace the inhibiter switch, try and repair the
> second gear retention
> problem and fix the oil ejection.
> c) do a full tranny overhaul.
> d) convert to a Toyota 5 speed.
>
> What does everyone recommend?
> Does anyone have any experience they can relate to
> me on the Smitty
> conversion?
>
> Dave Murphy
> Dearborn Michigan
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From ynotink <ynotink at qwest.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:20:54 -0700
Subject: Re: FW: BN1 or BJ8?
Now that's my kind of stocking stuffer. I usually just get an ugly sweater.
Bill Lawrence
Jae Lee wrote:
> I am writing to thank all those who replied to my original thread last
> month.
> Your shared honest opinions were of great assistance.
>
> Well, I found the car that winked at me and I am now a first-time proud
> owner of a healey blue, BN 1 circa 1954. I purchased the car over this past
> Thanksgiving and I consider it the best Christmas gift I ever got from
> Santa.
>
> Thank you and happy healeying,
> Jae Lee
> '54 BN 1 from Santa Claus
From "Greg Monfort" <wingracer at email.msn.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 00:49:41 -0500
Subject: Re: side exhaust thread revisited
Absolutely! The role of the exhaust system is to
scavenge the cylinder of spent gases (gas slug), and
draw in fresh mixture. If the slug moves too slow WRT
RPM, the timing of the event doesn't match the timing
of the cam, or the tuned length of the primary pipe.
GM
----- Original Message -----
>
> According to some of the tuning books, insufficient
back pressure -- esp. with a cam with significant
> valve overlap -- will cause a significant part of
the intake charge to exit via the exhaust.
>
> bs
From "Ron Yates" <dipstickdigest at ctaz.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:27:59 -0700
Subject: George Swift
Back on the 17th, I sent out a message requesting those on the list, who
could, to send a note of cheer to George Swift during his battle with
cancer.
I want to let you know that your efforts were successful.
I talked with him just before Thanksgiving and he was indeed in better
spirit. He was overwhelmed that so many people, Healey People and Vintage
Racers, sent him notes, and from so many different places; Canada and the
U.S. He wants you all to know how much he appreciated your notes and get
well wishes. "They arrived at a good time", he said.
I want to thank you also for your thoughts and effort.
Sincerely,
Ron Yates
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Text of message sent out on the 17th.
To all you Healey People, Healey Racers, MG Racers, Cooper Racers, and
Mighty Midget Racers (whoever went through a fence ass-backwards).
This is a shamless solicitation for all on the lists who might be so
inclined.
We have a long time friend (former racer of all those cars mentioned
above) who is not doing so well in his battle with cancer.
His name is George Swift, former racer who worked at the late Gene
Sweeney's BMC agency in San Anselmo (north of San Francisco) as Service
Manager, and raced with the San Francisco Region of SCCA from 1950 to 1956.
If it had wheels George raced it!
For you Healeyphiles, George was the first guy on the west coast to race
the Healey. The car he raced was the second Healey 100 on the west coast
(February, 1953), and was the Grand Prize winner at the 1953 Pebble Beach
Concours. The car was one of the initial pre-production cars. He added a
white swage panel to the car, before it was available or popular as a Healey
color scheme, and raced it from Oct. '53 (Golden Gate Park, Santa Clara,
Stockton, etc.) til he took delivery of one of the first 100S's. That was
given the Healey Blue over white treatment as had the 100 before it (no
white over lobelia blue 100S here!). George raced that car until '56. On
other weekends during this period he raced his Cooper, several MG's, MGA's
(Golden Gate, Sacramento, Reno,etc.), and other marques as they came through
the agency. George also served the sport in various positions with the
SF-SCCA, and worked the races in different capacities when not in an event
as a participant.
I know that there's a slim to no chance that you know who he is or
remember the name, but he is one of us, and he played a big part in the
history of the cars that we're all involved with.
Here's the solicitation part.
If you have time in the next couple of weeks I would like any of you who
feel you can, given this information, send him a card or note before the
holiday wishing him well.
George is not on the internet so your efforts will have to be via snail
mail. He can be reached at:
George Swift
P.O. Box 410
Mendocino, CA 95460
Thank you for your consideration.
Ron Yates
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