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> On 04/26/2023 8:35 PM DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Here's Jeff's setup. I took this photo at Watkins Glen in 2008 for i=
nspiration and ideas when I was beginning my build. I'm not sure what mast=
er he uses. It does not look like TR6, but it is a duel unit that uses the=
TR3 box and seems to protrude further into the firewall box. This proves =
that it is possible to build something not too far outside of the standard =
TR3 setup and if it works for Jeff, it's well tested and performs as needed=
.
> Cheers,=20
> Dave H.
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> > > On 04/26/2023 10:11 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@auto=
x.team.net> wrote:
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> > thx!
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> > On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:43 AM, Greg Hilyer <lunkercars@yahoo.com=
mailto:lunkercars@yahoo.com > wrote:
> > Scott,
> > What I=E2=80=99ve done with Formula Vees is to literally =E2=80=
=9Ckick-start=E2=80=9D the dyno drum - Get two big guy on both sides of the=
car to get the drum rolling with foot power. Just a few MPH helps a lot. I=
f need be to get it moving, you can also use the starter motor in first gea=
r (ignition off) for the first couple revolutions (it=E2=80=99s really not =
as hard on the starter as it sounds), put the clutch in, and let your =E2=
=80=9Cmules=E2=80=9D kick the best they can.
> > Sounds hokey but if it works for a 50hp Vee it should help your=
clutch too.
> > Greg =E2=80=9CLunker=E2=80=9D Hilyer
> > Albuquerque NM
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> > > > > On Apr 25, 2023, at 11:52 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <f=
ot@autox.team.net mailto:fot@autox.team.net > wrote:
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> > > So, I=E2=80=99m putting together my car with a fresh engi=
ne. With a new engine, I almost always spend a few hours on a local chassi=
s dyno - seat the rings, set the timing, check performance, play with carb =
jets, etc. Way better than showing up at an event with adjustments not mad=
e or an engine that blows up on the first run.
> > >=20
> > > Anyway, I have a new quartermaster 7-1/4=E2=80=9D clutch =
assembly and flywheel that I would like to put in. However, I have to slip =
the clutch a lot to get the chassis dyno spooled up, and if I do 5-10 pulls=
, that=E2=80=99s a lot of clutch slipping. Am I going to toast the new lit=
tle guy?
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> > > The alternative, which is of course not very attractive, =
is to put the full size flywheel/clutch assembly in, do the dyno runs, then=
pull everything out and swap it. Basically an engine/trans pull, as swappi=
ng a flywheel with the engine still in the car and the transmission out jus=
t sounds painful.
> > >=20
> > > Thoughts?
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On 04/26/2023 8:35 PM DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net> wrote:
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setup. I took this photo at Watkins Glen in 2008 for inspiration and =
ideas when I was beginning my build. I'm not sure what master he uses=
. It does not look like TR6, but it is a duel unit that uses the TR3 =
box and seems to protrude further into the firewall box. This proves =
that it is possible to build something not too far outside of the standard =
TR3 setup and if it works for Jeff, it's well tested and performs as needed=
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On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:43 AM, Greg Hilyer <<a href=3D"mailto:lunke=
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Scott,=20
<br class=3D"">What I=E2=80=99ve done with Formula Vees is to litera=
lly =E2=80=9Ckick-start=E2=80=9D the dyno drum - Get two big guy on both si=
des of the car to get the drum rolling with foot power. Just a few MPH help=
s a lot. If need be to get it moving, you can also use the starter motor in=
first gear (ignition off) for the first couple revolutions (it=E2=80=99s r=
eally not as hard on the starter as it sounds), put the clutch in, and let =
your =E2=80=9Cmules=E2=80=9D kick the best they can.=20
<br class=3D"">Sounds hokey but if it works for a 50hp Vee it should=
help your clutch too.=20
<br class=3D"">Greg =E2=80=9CLunker=E2=80=9D Hilyer=20
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<br class=3D"">So, I=E2=80=99m putting together my car with a fresh=
engine. With a new engine, I almost always spend a few hours on a lo=
cal chassis dyno - seat the rings, set the timing, check performance, play =
with carb jets, etc. Way better than showing up at an event with adju=
stments not made or an engine that blows up on the first run.=20
<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">Anyway, I have a new quartermaster 7-1/4=E2=80=9D cl=
utch assembly and flywheel that I would like to put in. However, I have to =
slip the clutch a lot to get the chassis dyno spooled up, and if I do 5-10 =
pulls, that=E2=80=99s a lot of clutch slipping. Am I going to toast t=
he new little guy?=20
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<br class=3D"">The alternative, which is of course not very attract=
ive, is to put the full size flywheel/clutch assembly in, do the dyno runs,=
then pull everything out and swap it. Basically an engine/trans pull, as s=
wapping a flywheel with the engine still in the car and the transmission ou=
t just sounds painful.=20
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<br class=3D"">Thoughts?=20
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