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Re: [Fot] Southwick Conversion axle float

To: Mike Mehl <mike.mehl@yahoo.com>, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>, Erik Jacobsen <kekjacobsen@yahoo.com>, "dos_gusanos@msn.com" <dos_gusanos@msn.com>, "vfracing@aol.com" <vfracing@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Southwick Conversion axle float
From: DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 19:13:37 -0800 (PST)
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You can use a seal in the axle tube to stop gear oil from reaching the bearing. 
 The bearings are sealed, so gear oil doesn't need to get to them.  This is 
only necessary if you are having a problem, but can be preventative as well.  I 
also, smear Hylomar or the Porsche equivalent, Curlty on the bearing o-ring to 
help seal things up nice.  
I also have Teflon baffles next to the carrier bearings to limit the amount of 
gear oil that gets down the axle tubes.
Just minutes before my first race ever, and in my TR3 in 2013 at Sonoma, suited 
up and ready to go, I noticed a couple drops of gear oil on my otherwise 
perfectly clean rear wheel while checking the lug torque.  I quickly pulled the 
wheels and drums and wrapped disposable shop towels on the axles and zip tied 
them on.  Got me thought the race without a problem.
When I got the car home, I took it apart and found that the outer bearing race 
had cracked clean across, allowing gear oil to pass bye.  
I had not known and also the company that built the axle with all new parts and 
a new TranX diff, that the standard centering pin needed to be removed from the 
TranX for the semi-floating Moser axles.  Once things were completely 
installed, the axle bearings had been side loaded in tension, causing the outer 
race to fail. That's called, learning things the hard way.  The centering pin 
also broke, as I found half of it lying in the axle tube after I pulled the 
axles.  So, at least I didn't need to pull everything apart to get the pin out. 
 
Dave H. 



>     On 02/18/2023 6:37 PM Mike Mehl <mike.mehl@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>     You  can get replacement bearings and c clips from jegs for a Ford rear 
> end. Mine was leaking gear oil on to the brakes. 
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   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">You can use a seal in 
the axle tube to stop gear oil from reaching the bearing.&nbsp; The bearings 
are sealed, so gear oil doesn't need to get to them.&nbsp; This is only 
necessary if you are having a problem, but can be preventative as well.&nbsp; I 
also, smear Hylomar or the Porsche equivalent, Curlty on the bearing o-ring to 
help seal things up nice.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
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   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I also have Teflon 
baffles next to the carrier bearings to limit the amount of gear oil that gets 
down the axle tubes.</span>
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   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Just minutes before 
my first race ever, and in my TR3 in 2013 at Sonoma, suited up and ready to go, 
I noticed a couple drops of gear oil on my otherwise perfectly clean rear wheel 
while checking the lug torque.&nbsp; I quickly pulled the wheels and drums and 
wrapped disposable shop towels on the axles and zip tied them on.&nbsp; Got me 
thought the race without a problem.</span>
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  <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; 
color: #333333;" class="default-style">
   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">When I got the car 
home, I took it apart and found that the outer bearing race had cracked clean 
across, allowing gear oil to pass bye.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
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  <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; 
color: #333333;" class="default-style">
   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I had not known and 
also the company that built the axle with all new parts and a new TranX diff, 
that the standard centering pin needed to be removed from the TranX for the 
semi-floating Moser axles.&nbsp; Once things were completely installed, the 
axle bearings had been side loaded in tension, causing the outer race to fail. 
That's called, learning</span><span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 
12pt;"> things the hard way.&nbsp; The centering pin also broke, as I found 
half of it lying in the axle tube after I pulled the axles.&nbsp; So, at least 
I didn't need to pull everything apart to get the pin out.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
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   </div>You&nbsp; can get replacement bearings and c clips from jegs for a 
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