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Radiator shroud intact? That's kind of vital.
Regards, Tony
On 6/10/2022 2:25 PM, Chris Marx via Fot wrote:
>
> Somehow your radiator system is inefficient.
>
> My TR4 temperature is nailed to 185F and donâ??t move away fromâ?¦range
> maybe from 180 to 190.
>
> I use:
>
> * Good aluminum radiator
> * Blocked small circuit
> * Automatic bleeding system
> * 7 blade pump
> * Smaller drive pulley to lower water pump speed
>
> *Von:*Dave Riddle <Dave@microworks.net>
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 21:18
> *An:* tr4racing@googlemail.com; 'Philip Gott' <vfracing@aol.com>
> *Cc:* fot@autox.team.net
> *Betreff:* RE: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...
>
> Brand new Aluminum Radiator from Wizard and all new hoses
>
> *From:*tr4racing@googlemail.com [mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2022 12:17 PM
> *To:* 'Philip Gott'; Dave Riddle
> *Cc:* fot@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* AW: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...
>
> Yeah, that was my thought.
>
> Besides that, I use a thermostat in my TR4.
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
> *Von:*Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Philip Gott
> via Fot
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 21:07
> *An:* Dave Riddle <Dave@microworks.net>
> *Cc:* fot@autox.team.net
> *Betreff:* Re: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...
>
> Time to get the radiator flushed.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 10, 2022, at 2:25 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot
> <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I have the thermostat housing open right now and have obtained a
> new 180 degree thermostat to replace the 180 degree Motorad one
> that has been in there since the 1990s. The old one I put in a
> pot and saw it open when I heated the water but It is still
> suspect. Here in the Phoenix area it is the rare day that we
> really need to be concerned with ambient temps leading to
> prolonged engine warm up conditions. Lately I had noticed that
> when running for prolonged times at Freeway speeds (+75 at 3500
> RPM) the temps would quickly reach +230 and if I jumped off the
> Freeway and moved at surface Street speeds of 45 even with Stop
> and Go streetlights within a mile or two the temps had dropped
> back to between 210 and 220.
>
> Should I look at using a 160 degree thermostat or just ditching
> one altogether?
>
> <image001.jpg> <http://www.microworks.net/>
>
> *Dave Riddle*
>
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<p>Radiator shroud intact? That's kind of vital.</p>
<p>Regards, Tony<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/10/2022 2:25 PM, Chris Marx via
Fot wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Somehow your radiator system is
inefficient.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">My TR4 temperature is nailed to 185F and
donâ??t move away fromâ?¦range maybe from 180 to 190.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I use:<o:p></o:p></p>
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aluminum radiator<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Blocked
small circuit<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Automatic
bleeding system<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">7 blade
pump<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
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drive pulley to lower water pump speed <o:p></o:p></li>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span
lang="DE"> Dave Riddle <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:Dave@microworks.net"><Dave@microworks.net></a> <br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 21:18<br>
<b>An:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>; 'Philip
Gott'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:vfracing@aol.com"><vfracing@aol.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> RE: [Fot] To thermostat or not to
thermostat...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Brand new
Aluminum Radiator from Wizard and all new hoses
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> <a
href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>
[<a href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 10, 2022 12:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Philip Gott'; Dave Riddle<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fot@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> AW: [Fot] To thermostat or not to
thermostat...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yeah, that was my thought.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Besides that, I use a thermostat in my
TR4.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Chris<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span
lang="DE"> Fot <<a
href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Philip Gott via Fot<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 21:07<br>
<b>An:</b> Dave Riddle <<a
href="mailto:Dave@microworks.net"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Dave@microworks.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fot@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] To thermostat or not to
thermostat...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Time to get
the radiator flushed.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jun 10,
2022, at 2:25 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot <<a
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fot@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have the thermostat housing open
right now and have obtained a new 180 degree thermostat to
replace the 180 degree Motorad one that has been in there
since the 1990s. The old one I put in a pot and saw it
open when I heated the water but It is still suspect.Â
Here in the Phoenix area it is the rare day that we really
need to be concerned with ambient temps leading to
prolonged engine warm up conditions. Lately I had noticed
that when running for prolonged times at Freeway speeds
(+75 at 3500 RPM) the temps would quickly reach +230 and
if I jumped off the Freeway and moved at surface Street
speeds of 45 even with Stop and Go streetlights within a
mile or two the temps had dropped back to between 210 and
220.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Should I look at using a 160 degree
thermostat or just ditching one altogether?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â <o:p></o:p></p>
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class="MsoHyperlink"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Dave
Riddle</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Business IT Consulting<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Office: 480-610-8234<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">eMail: <a
href="mailto:dave@microworks.net" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dave@microworks.net</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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