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Got it!
Yes, it was a challenge, but the Ken Knight solution worked well.=20
1) ensure no filings can reach other parts of the engine
2) drill out the center of the plug big enough to fit a hack saw blade into i=
t.
3) cut the plug into thirds, more or less, like a pizza. Cut to the cast iro=
n threads, but not into them.
4) use a flat punch to knock one of the sections out.
5) fold the other two sections together with the punch. At this point it sho=
uld either screw out or can be removed with a pair of pliers.
6) use heavy grease on a screw driver to get the aluminum pieces and filings=
out of the cooling system.
Thanks everyone, especially Ken, for your suggestions!
Phil Gott
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 14, 2021, at 9:37 AM, fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> It can be done but it'll be a #itch to get the plug out with the head stil=
l on the engine, it's best/easiest to drill/machine it out on the bench.
> If it's leaking in the middle it's likely rotten and has to be replaced.
> If it's leaking around the edge, peen the edge of the plug, it's soft, and=
dump a small jar of the original Bars leak* in it & it'll likely be fine un=
til next overhaul.
> Glen Efinger
> * it saved the USS Nautilus & also works well in TR racecars...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> To: Friends Of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, Sep 13, 2021 7:37 pm
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Pure Water in the crankcase catch can
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> Thanks for the private responses.
> It is indeed the aluminum plug in the rocker box floor. Some solutions are=
covered in Kas=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9CTriumphs=E2=80=9D book.=20
> Does anyone have suggestions about how to remove that plug without first r=
emoving the cylinder head?
> Phil
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Sep 12, 2021, at 10:30 PM, Philip Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
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> > =EF=BB=BFThis weekend at the Glen my engine pumped about 6 oz of pure wa=
ter ( not the expected oil-water milkshake mixture) into the catch can in a 2=
0 minute session. I had to top up the coolant a similar amount.
> > This is unusual due to the purity of the water. It was clear.=20
> > I am running Driven XP3 oil. Not running anti freeze, just water wetter.=
> > What could be the cause? Anyone have similar experience?=20
> > I=E2=80=99m thinking the aluminum plug in the head in the rocker arm are=
a could be at fault. That could send water almost immediately out the vent i=
n the rocker cover before it mixed with oil in the crankcase. Plausible?
> > Will run a cooling system pressure test tomorrow.
> > Any advice appreciated.
> > Thanks,
> > Phil Gott
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Got it!<div>Yes, it was a challenge, but th=
e Ken Knight solution worked well. </div><div>1) ensure no filings can r=
each other parts of the engine</div><div>2) drill out the center of the plug=
big enough to fit a hack saw blade into it.</div><div>3) cut the plug into t=
hirds, more or less, like a pizza. Cut to the cast iron threads, but not int=
o them.</div><div>4) use a flat punch to knock one of the sections out.</div=
><div>5) fold the other two sections together with the punch. At this point i=
t should either screw out or can be removed with a pair of pliers.</div><div=
>6) use heavy grease on a screw driver to get the aluminum pieces and filing=
s out of the cooling system.</div><div>Thanks everyone, especially Ken, for y=
our suggestions!</div><div>Phil Gott<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iP=
hone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 14, 2021, at=
9:37 AM, fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquo=
te></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"2">It can be done but it'll be a #itch to get the plug o=
ut with the head still on the engine, it's best/easiest to drill/machine it o=
ut on the bench.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">If it's leaking in the middle it's likely rotten and h=
as to be replaced.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">If it's leaking around the edge, peen the edge of the p=
lug, it's soft, and dump a small jar of the original Bars leak* in it & i=
t'll likely be fine until next overhaul.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Glen Efinger</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">* it saved the USS Nautilus & also works well in T=
R racecars...</font><br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> <br>
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font s=
ize=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Philip Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net><br>
To: Friends Of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Mon, Sep 13, 2021 7:37 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Pure Water in the crankcase catch can<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for the private responses.<br clear=3D"none">It is i=
ndeed the aluminum plug in the rocker box floor. Some solutions are covered i=
n Kas=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9CTriumphs=E2=80=9D book. <br clear=3D"none">Does any=
one have suggestions about how to remove that plug without first removing th=
e cylinder head?<br clear=3D"none">Phil<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
>Sent from my iPhone<br clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yqt3723668945" id=3D"yqtfd52517"><br clear=3D"none">> On Se=
p 12, 2021, at 10:30 PM, Philip Gott via Fot <<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.tea=
m.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> =EF=BB=BF=
This weekend at the Glen my engine pumped about 6 oz of pure water ( not the=
expected oil-water milkshake mixture) into the catch can in a 20 minute ses=
sion. I had to top up the coolant a similar amount.<br clear=3D"none">> T=
his is unusual due to the purity of the water. It was clear. <br clear=
=3D"none">> I am running Driven XP3 oil. Not running anti freeze, just wa=
ter wetter.<br clear=3D"none">> What could be the cause? Anyone have simi=
lar experience? <br clear=3D"none">> I=E2=80=99m thinking the aluminum pl=
ug in the head in the rocker arm area could be at fault. That could send wat=
er almost immediately out the vent in the rocker cover before it mixed with o=
il in the crankcase. Plausible?<br clear=3D"none">> Will run a cooling sy=
stem pressure test tomorrow.<br clear=3D"none">> Any advice appreciated.<=
br clear=3D"none">> Thanks,<br clear=3D"none">> Phil Gott<br clear=3D"=
none">> <br clear=3D"none">> Sent from my iPhone<br clear=3D"none"><br=
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