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Re: [Fot] Fornwalt TR4/DBR Project (free)

To: Ponostyle <bill@ponostyle.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fornwalt TR4/DBR Project (free)
From: Terry Sopher via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 19:12:29 -0400
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There is a very talented fabricator here in Jax area.  I asked him to take a=
 look and give an estimate to get the body panels completed molds, bucks & a=
ll and estimate of labor to fit/assemble etc.

A lot was done on the Fornwalt, but likely even more to get it all to fit & f=
inish.  Will see what he comes back with.

Terry

> On Sep 13, 2021, at 19:07, Ponostyle via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFOdd, it still doesn=E2=80=99t work for me. No matter, I=E2=80=99m=
 not going to do it. I hope someone does, but I have enough projects to keep=
 me busy until I turn about 120.=20
>=20
>> On Sep 12, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Mike Jackson <grandwazoo@earthlink.net> wro=
te:
>>=20
>> Not true!  I used the link and looked at the few pics available.  Just wi=
sh I had the talent and likely remaining number of years required to finish i=
t!
>> What an enormous task.  I was co-owner of a TRiumph powered Devin for a v=
ery few years.  Just mounting such a body satisfactorily is a challenge if t=
he parts are already available.  Plus the suspension travel had to be severa=
lly limited do to the low fenders.  Made the thing diabolical to race.=20
>> =20
>> Will hope another vintage racing friend from down here will be enthused e=
nough to think seriously about it.
>> =20
>> Bill was one of the first TRiumph racers I met when I went to my first ou=
t of state race at Summit Point.  And, a long ways from South  Florida it wa=
s.
>> =20
>> Mike
>> =20
>> riginal Message-----
>> From: Ponostyle <bill@ponostyle.com>
>> Sent: Sep 11, 2021 1:32 PM
>> To: Jamie Palmer <tr6driver@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: fot@autox.team.net <fot@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Fornwalt TR4/DBR Project (free)
>>=20
>>=20
>> That roadster factory link doesn=E2=80=99t work, in fact none of the back=
door links I tried work either. Perhaps their server is down. I=E2=80=99m pa=
infully interested, that sounds like a fun project, unfortunately, like you,=
 I have a lot of fun projects.=20
>> =20
>> Bill
>>=20
>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 8:11 AM, Jamie Palmer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wr=
ote:
>> Fellow FOT-ers,
>> =20
>> I'm forced to admit failure in my attempt to get the Fornwalt project res=
urrected that I picked up from TRF a couple of years ago. Albert was kind en=
ough to pass it on to me for free as long as I promised to pursue finishing t=
he car, and I would like to do the same for someone capable of finishing the=
 project.  All I ask is a chance to buy one of the bodies if you complete th=
e project.
>> =20
>> If you don't remember the car, the pictures from its time at TRF (it has n=
ot changed at all) are located in this directory:  https://www.the-roadster-=
factory.com/Images/POTW/Fornwalt-Fibreglass/
>> =20
>> For info purposes:
>> --Mr. Fornwalt (I know some of you knew him well) was a TR4 vintage racer=
 who wanted an Aston Martin DBR and decided to build his own body to fit a T=
R4 chassis.
>> --The body buck (male form) was completed, and the molds (female form) ha=
ve been done for the front end, doors and hood. The rear was not started.
>> --The buck is very high-quality work, done out of wood and plaster, and i=
s formed over a "junk" rolling TR4 frame with engine and transmission. I was=
 told the components were worthless apart from sizing but have not verified t=
hat. As the male buck was stored in the TRF warehouse for many years it has s=
ome very small, localized "bruises" that will need to be smoothed out with b=
ody filler prior to creating the female rear mold.
>> --Mr. Fornwalt's widow had no interest in the project after his untimely d=
eath and passed the project on to Charles at TRF.  After Charles' death, Alb=
ert was cleaning things up and offered it to interested parties -- and I was=
 (and am) interested.  However, I have to face facts and I'm not going to ge=
t to it any time soon -- the TR6 street car, TR6 race car, Italia and my Hat=
haway Hunter are all ahead of it in line.
>> =20
>> If you are interested, please contact me off-list at tr6driver@yahoo.com a=
nd we can set up a phone call/face time. =20
>> =20
>> Thanks,
>> =20
>> Jamie Palmer
>> Pittsboro, NC
>> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">There is a very talented f=
abricator here in Jax area. &nbsp;I asked him to take a look and give an est=
imate to get the body panels completed molds, bucks &amp; all and estimate o=
f labor to fit/assemble etc.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">A lot was done on the Fornwalt, but likely even more to get it all to fit &=
amp; finish. &nbsp;Will see what he comes back with.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Terry</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D=
"cite">On Sep 13, 2021, at 19:07, Ponostyle via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&g=
t; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"lt=
r">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8">Odd, it still doesn=E2=80=99t work for me. No matter, I=E2=80=99m not=
 going to do it. I hope someone does, but I have enough projects to keep me b=
usy until I turn about 120.&nbsp;<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Sep 12, 2021, at 11:53 AM, M=
ike Jackson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:grandwazoo@earthlink.net"; class=3D"">grand=
wazoo@earthlink.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newli=
ne"><div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size:=
 16pt;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0px; line-height: 1;" class=3D=
""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">Not true!&nbsp; I used the li=
nk and looked at the few pics available.&nbsp; Just wish I had the talent an=
d likely remaining number of years required to finish it!</span></div><div s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0px; line-height: 1;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-=
size: 12pt;" class=3D"">What an enormous task.&nbsp; I was co-owner of a TRi=
umph powered Devin for a very few years.&nbsp; Just mounting such a body sat=
isfactorily is a challenge if the parts are already available.&nbsp; Plus th=
e suspension travel had to be severally limited do to the low fenders.&nbsp;=
 Made the thing diabolical to race.&nbsp;</span></div><p style=3D"margin: 0.=
1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"margin: 0.1rem=
 0px; line-height: 1;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"=
">Will hope another vintage racing friend from down here will be enthused en=
ough to think seriously about it.</span></div><p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; l=
ine-height: 1.0;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0px; lin=
e-height: 1;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">Bill wa=
s one of the first TRiumph racers I met when I went to my first out of state=
 race at Summit Point.&nbsp; And, a long ways from South&nbsp; Florida it wa=
s.</span></div><p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;" class=3D"">&=
nbsp;</p><div style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0px; line-height: 1;" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">Mike</span></div><p style=3D"margin: 0=
.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"margin: 0.1re=
m 0px; line-height: 1;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-s=
ize: 12pt;" class=3D"">riginal Message-----</span></div>
</div>
<div class=3D"elnk-inline-message-container" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid=
 #aaa; box-sizing: border-box; padding: 10px 0 10px 15px; margin: 0;"><p cla=
ss=3D"">From: Ponostyle &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bill@ponostyle.com"; class=3D""=
>bill@ponostyle.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Sent: Sep 11, 2021 1:32 PM<br clas=
s=3D"">To: Jamie Palmer &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr6driver@yahoo.com"; class=3D"=
">tr6driver@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.=
team.net" class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.=
team.net" class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [=
Fot] Fornwalt TR4/DBR Project (free)</p>
<br class=3D"">That roadster factory link doesn=E2=80=99t work, in fact none=
 of the backdoor links I tried work either. Perhaps their server is down. I=E2=
=80=99m painfully interested, that sounds like a fun project, unfortunately,=
 like you, I have a lot of fun projects.&nbsp;
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"">Bill<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
<blockquote class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">On Sep 11, 2021, at 8:11 AM, Jamie Palmer via Fot &lt;<a cla=
ss=3D"" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:=
</div>
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvet=
ica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Fellow FOT-ers,</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I'm forced to admit failur=
e in my attempt to get the Fornwalt project resurrected that I picked up fro=
m TRF a couple of years ago. Albert was kind enough to pass it on to me for f=
ree as long as I promised to pursue finishing the car, and I would like to d=
o the same for someone capable of finishing the project.&nbsp; All I ask is a=
 chance to buy one of the bodies if you complete the project.</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">If you don't remember the c=
ar, the pictures from its time at TRF (it has not changed at all) are locate=
d in this directory:&nbsp;&nbsp;<a class=3D"" href=3D"https://www.the-roadst=
er-factory.com/Images/POTW/Fornwalt-Fibreglass/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no=
follow noopener">https://www.the-roadster-factory.com/Images/POTW/Fornwalt-Fi=
breglass/</a></div>
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">For info purposes:</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">--Mr. Fornwalt (I know som=
e of you knew him well) was a TR4 vintage racer who wanted an Aston Martin D=
BR and decided to build his own body to fit a TR4 chassis.</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">--The body buck (male form=
) was completed, and the molds (female form) have been done for the front en=
d, doors and hood. The rear was not started.</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">--The buck is very high-qu=
ality work, done out of wood and plaster, and is formed over a "junk" rollin=
g TR4 frame with engine and transmission. I was told the components were wor=
thless apart from sizing but have not verified that. As the male buck was st=
ored in the TRF warehouse for many years it has some very small, localized "=
bruises" that will need to be smoothed out with body filler prior to creatin=
g the female rear mold.</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">--Mr. Fornwalt's widow had=
 no interest in the project after his untimely death and passed the project o=
n to Charles at TRF.&nbsp; After Charles' death, Albert was cleaning things u=
p and offered it to interested parties -- and I was (and am) interested.&nbs=
p; However, I have to face facts and I'm not going to get to it any time soo=
n -- the TR6 street car, TR6 race car, Italia and my Hathaway Hunter are all=
 ahead of it in line.</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">If you are interested, ple=
ase contact me off-list at <a class=3D"" href=3D"mailto:tr6driver@yahoo.com"=
>tr6driver@yahoo.com</a> and we can set up a phone call/face time.&nbsp;&nbs=
p;</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Thanks,</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Jamie Palmer</div>
<div class=3D"" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Pittsboro, NC</div>
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
</div>
</div>
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