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Thanks, everyone!
Phil
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wr=
ote:
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> Tony,
> Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny c=
ompared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot.=20
>=20
> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot <fot@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:
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> With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the f=
ront and another at the back. Any other orientation resulted in weirdness a=
fter hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas.
>=20
> Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pres=
sure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we w=
anted, but fighting the doggone regulators).
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> On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote:
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> Yup.
> Had that problem. Floats must =E2=80=9Cface=E2=80=9D fore and aft, meaning=
the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we firs=
t tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel p=
ressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/a=
ft floats works well.
> Thanks.,
> Phil=20
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>> On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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>> =EF=BB=BF
>> NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style f=
loats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float d=
irection for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on h=
eavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward center...not bes=
t....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick
>> =20
>> In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot@autox=
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>> =20
>> Thanks, Erik and Joe;
>> Good to know.
>> I=E2=80=99ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won=E2=80=
=99t use those again!
>> Phil
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>> On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen <kekjacobsen@yahoo.com> wrote=
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>>=20
>> =20
>> Phil,
>> I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven'=
t had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race=
car, I still haven't had a problem.
>> =20
>> Jake
>> =20
>> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot@au=
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>> Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded b=
all on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others=
had said that they had issues. JoeB
>> =20
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>> =20
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, worse, or require different set up?
>> Phil Gott
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Thanks, everyone!<div>Phil<br><br><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite=
">On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net&=
gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydpe19524e3yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family=
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Tony,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false">Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (eve=
n if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pi=
vot. </div><div><br></div>
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On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drew=
s via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<p>With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting
at the front and another at the back. Any other orientation
resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to
stomp the gas.</p>
<p>Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any
fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7
psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators).<br cle=
ar=3D"none">
</p>
<p>- Tony Drews<br clear=3D"none">
</p>
<div class=3D"ydp229c9148yiv8384753712yqt9860963070" id=3D"ydp229c9148yi=
v8384753712yqtfd74851"><div class=3D"ydp229c9148yiv8384753712moz-cite-prefix=
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11">
Yup.
<div>Had that problem. Floats must =E2=80=9Cface=E2=80=9D fore and aft=
, meaning
the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the
car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns
by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse.
Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well.</div>
<div>Thanks.,</div>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46
via Fot <a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydp229c9148yiv8384753712moz-t=
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<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif=
;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;">NO
GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use
GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open
and close.....heres a tip..check your float
direction for best perf....meaning , are you having
brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners? You
prob have each float facing toward center...not
best....Solved by making both floats face same
direction(frt. or back)....rick</span></div>
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;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;"> </span></div>
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<div>Thanks, Erik and Joe;
<div>Good to know.</div>
<div>I=E2=80=99ve had Gross Jets hang open with some r=
oyal
flooding. Won=E2=80=99t use those again!</div>
<div>Phil<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I use the plain old solid
needles in both street and race cars
and haven't had any issues. They do
wear out eventually, but after 7 years
in the race car, I still haven't had a
problem.</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Phil, years ago
I stopped using Gross Jets,
which have the spring loaded
ball on the end of the float
needle. I suspected some
flow issues and others had
said that they had issues. =
JoeB</div>
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17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM
EDT, Phil Gott via Fot
<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"y=
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have experience with
needle valves that do
not have the spring
loaded contact where
the needle valve rests
on the float? Is a
solid one better,
worse, or require
different set up?</div>
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