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Hi,
I am totally against switching from levers to telescoping shocks unless the=
upper shock mount is both connected to the lower frame (or roll cage, if y=
ou have one) AND has accomodation for upper and lower bump stops. Otherwise=
, you are wasting money and will wind up with body and / or frame problems.
The lever type shock is actually better than tube shocks except other than =
modified levers, you can't adjust for conditions. That said, the Worldwide =
folks (nosimport.com) have a conversion with external adjustable valving. N=
ot state of the art, but you can dial soft/firm as needed.=20
The real problem here is that a lot of folks will add springs with no sense=
of what the rates are and a lot of times the handling issues are related t=
o springs and shock not matched properly. Skittish on rough roads implies t=
oo firm, e.g. not enough compliance, but without knowing why there's a comp=
liance issue, you're sort of shooting in the dark. I mean, you could be see=
ing a problem because you're driving on the bump stops...
I switched to the Worlwide setup about 10 years ago and the difference in h=
andling was night and day. Plus I can soften the car when it gets wet.
Regards,Bob Lang
On Monday, January 18, 2021, 12:07:08 PM EST, Dave Connitt via Fot <fot=
@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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Hi all,
I am new to the FOS list. I own a 1967 TR4A-IRS that I finished restoring b=
ack in 2013 (DavesTR4A. com). It=E2=80=99s running stock lever type rear sh=
ocks that other than cleaning and painting and adding new links, I just rei=
nstalled in the the car during the restoration. They seem to have resistanc=
e when I push/pull them so I am pretty sure they work as designed.=20
The car has always been kind of skittish on rough roads and I am considerin=
g switching to a tube shock conversion, specifically the one that bolts dir=
ectly to the existing shock mounts.
Originality isn=E2=80=99t my main focus here. I like to drive it aggressive=
ly.
I would be interested in anyone=E2=80=99s experience with switching from re=
ar lever shocks to chassis mounted (using the stock shock mounting points) =
regarding handling improvement or not.
Thanks in advance,
Dave Connitt
=E2=80=9867 TR4A-IRS
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I am t=
otally against switching from levers to telescoping shocks unless the upper=
shock mount is both connected to the lower frame (or roll cage, if you hav=
e one) AND has accomodation for upper and lower bump stops. Otherwise, you =
are wasting money and will wind up with body and / or frame problems.</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
ir=3D"false">The lever type shock is actually better than tube shocks excep=
t other than modified levers, you can't adjust for conditions. That said, t=
he Worldwide folks (nosimport.com) have a conversion with external adjustab=
le valving. Not state of the art, but you can dial soft/firm as needed. <br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false">The real problem here is that a lot of folks will add s=
prings with no sense of what the rates are and a lot of times the handling =
issues are related to springs and shock not matched properly. Skittish on r=
ough roads implies too firm, e.g. not enough compliance, but without knowin=
g why there's a compliance issue, you're sort of shooting in the dark. I me=
an, you could be seeing a problem because you're driving on the bump stops.=
..</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false">I switched to the Worlwide setup about 10 years ago an=
d the difference in handling was night and day. Plus I can soften the car w=
hen it gets wet.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
ir=3D"false">Bob Lang<br></div><div><br></div>
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On Monday, January 18, 2021, 12:07:08 PM EST, Dave Conn=
itt via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi all,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I a=
m new to the FOS list. I own a 1967 TR4A-IRS that I finished restoring back=
in 2013 (DavesTR4A. com). It=E2=80=99s running stock lever type rear shock=
s that other than cleaning and painting and adding new links, I just reinst=
alled in the the car during the restoration. They seem to have resistance w=
hen I push/pull them so I am pretty sure they work as designed. <br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">The car has always been kind of skittish on rough roads and=
I am considering switching to a tube shock conversion, specifically the on=
e that bolts directly to the existing shock mounts.<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Originality isn=E2=80=99t my main focus here. I like to drive it aggress=
ively.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I would be interested in anyone=E2=80=99s =
experience with switching from rear lever shocks to chassis mounted (using =
the stock shock mounting points) regarding handling improvement or not.<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks in advance,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dave Co=
nnitt<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9867 TR4A-IRS<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
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