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Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Grattan race 2
From: Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 21:40:51 +0200
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Hold my beer, next year I=E2=80=99m coming back!

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Cheers

Chris

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Von: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von =
van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot
Gesendet: Sonntag, 13. September 2020 19:38
An: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] Fwd: Grattan race 2

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https://youtube/pyhOVGBw3rg=20

https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ=20

https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO

https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ=20

This should be links to the Zandvoort races (The Netherlands) of =
September the 11th and 12th.

My friend Karl Chandeck drove the car all the time. He was very quick : =
pole position on a grid of 48 cars! But in the race he went off in the =
1st lap. That was a big disappointment of course. We repaired the car =
for the 2nd race. He had to start from last position(45th). After 4 laps =
he was in 7th position. Then some bad luck came in : the spring inside =
one of the Weber carburettors broke and hindered the trottle shaft : the =
trottle stayed partly open and it was impossible to drive the car like =
that. We did 2 attempts to fix it. After the 1st pit stop, Karl could do =
some more laps and got the fastest overall laptime of the race with =
2'00"490. Without the accident in the first race, he could have finished =
1st or 2nd. It's a pity. Karl is a very safe driver, he very seldom has =
a spin.=20

Some of these video's will only be available tomorrow and if the links =
don't work, you simply can search in youtube with "Marcel Van Mulders".

Marcel.

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Van: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be =
Aan: "tr4racing" <tr4racing@googlemail.com =
Verzonden: Vrijdag 21 augustus 2020 09:24:13
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2

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https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ

Some of you may have seen this video of my car at the Hockenheimring =
some weeks ago : it was eating MG's with ease and also all the other =
cars except for a lightweight jaguar E-type and a very fast TVR/driver =
with TR6 engine. So 2' 6" was good for 3rd position on the grid, only =
half a second slower than the TVR. The secret? IT WAS NOT ME AT THE =
WHEEL!! Karl Chandeck was driving for me : not a prof racer but very =
fast anyway. Sadly the engine broke : holed engine block and big fire. I =
was always faster than the MG's but now being 68yrs old, I got slower =
and slower in the last couple of years without noticing it. I thought it =
was my car and I worked on it, but I remained in the midfield instead of =
at the front  where I used to be. My car getting faster and me getting =
slower : the result has been a steady state. With 68yrs one hasn't to be =
slow, but for me it has turned out like that. But I hope it is not a =
definite fate and Karl is learning me to be faster again. We'll see if =
I'll succeed, if not, Karl will take over the driving completely. Next =
race is at Zandvoort on septembre the 12th. Watch this space!

Marcel

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Aan: "Michael Deweerd" <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com =
Verzonden: Donderdag 20 augustus 2020 19:20:57
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2

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Forgot to mention, my engine has 178 hp, but the torque is the =
secret=E2=80=A6.225Nm.

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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 19:18
An: 'Michael Deweerd' <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com =
Betreff: AW: [Fot] Grattan race 2

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Mike,

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my engine is really nothing special.

Standard crank, standard valves, good ported head, good camshaft, Ford =
Rods (I remember Tony has organized them for me), Phoenix exhaust head, =
48 Webers, that=E2=80=99s all.

My car is handling great. With good brake pads the standard brakes do =
very fine. Cast iron drums at the rear, Swaybars at front and rear.

There you have it. From last to win (okay=E2=80=A6.I was sat back to 4th =
because I accidently overtook under yellow)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4

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Cheers

Chris

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Von: Michael Deweerd <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com =
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:54
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2

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Chris. I want what you have for breakfast!!  175-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve =
not had my new engine on a dyno but I don=E2=80=99t think I=E2=80=99ll =
have that number Of ponies.=20

We should talk because there are some =E2=80=9Ckiller =
B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D here in Canada that need squashing lol=20

Mike=20

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On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =

Yep, MGs are lighter and I think they have a tiny advantage on tight =
corners.

But Triumphs do better from my experience.

My TR4 with 88mm bore is doing quite well and is on most cases faster =
than a MG.

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Cheers

Chris

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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11
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Betreff: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2

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I see the same thing here with good Mg's quicker than the TR-4 cars.  =
EXCEPT we have a couple TR-4's that are better prepared with the engine =
(bigger) and they are much better than the M.G.'s.  I also think  the =
MG's are  a lot lighter in weight for all seem very quick out of a =
corner. I also think that the MG engine is a lot better design to start =
with than thee TR-4 engine.  Way back in years I built MG engines and =
they were excellent in using high revs and very reliable.


Never be beaten by equipment.

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On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:04 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =

Very well driven.

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Wondering why these MGs and Porsches are that quick?

Normally Triumphs eat MGs and Porsches for Breakfast ;-)

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What power do they make?

Here in Europe MGs are in the 160Hp range, while TR 4s are about 175-190 =
Hp range.

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Cheers

Chris

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On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:54 PM Tony Drews via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =

Another Grattan video.  Fantastic battle with Scott Fohrman in an MGB=20

and Michael Moore in his beautiful red TR-4.  13 minutes of full-on =
racing.



https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c



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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hold my =
beer, next year I=E2=80=99m coming back!<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> Fot &lt;fot-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von =
</b>van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Sonntag, 13. =
September 2020 19:38<br><b>An:</b> fot =
&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> [Fot] Fwd: Grattan race =
2<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
a =
href=3D"https://youtube/pyhOVGBw3rg";>https://youtube/pyhOVGBw3rg</a>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
a =
href=3D"https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ";>https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ</a>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
a =
href=3D"https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO";>https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO</a><o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
a =
href=3D"https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ";>https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ</a>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>T=
his should be links to the Zandvoort races (The Netherlands) of =
September the 11th and 12th.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>M=
y friend Karl Chandeck drove the car all the time. He was very quick : =
pole position on a grid of 48 cars! But in the race he went off in the =
1st lap. That was a big disappointment of course. We repaired the car =
for the 2nd race. He had to start from last position(45th). After 4 laps =
he was in 7th position. Then some bad luck came in : the spring inside =
one of the Weber carburettors broke and hindered the trottle shaft : the =
trottle stayed partly open and it was impossible to drive the car like =
that. We did 2 attempts to fix it. After the 1st pit stop, Karl could do =
some more laps and got the fastest overall laptime of the race with =
2'00&quot;490. Without the accident in the first race, he could have =
finished 1st or 2nd. It's a pity. Karl is a very safe driver, he very =
seldom has a spin.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>S=
ome of these video's will only be available tomorrow and if the links =
don't work, you simply can search in youtube with &quot;Marcel Van =
Mulders&quot;.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>M=
arcel.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter =
id=3Dzwchr></span></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>V=
an: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>&=
quot;van mulders marcel&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be";>van.mulders.marcel@telenet.=
be</a>&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>&quot;tr4racing&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt;=
<br><b>Cc: </b>&quot;fot&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Verzo=
nden: </b>Vrijdag 21 augustus 2020 09:24:13<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: =
[Fot] Grattan race 2<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
a href=3D"https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ"; =
target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>S=
ome of you may have seen this video of my car at the Hockenheimring some =
weeks ago : it was eating MG's with ease and also all the other cars =
except for a lightweight jaguar E-type and a very fast TVR/driver with =
TR6 engine. So 2' 6&quot; was good for 3rd position on the grid, only =
half a second slower than the TVR. The secret? IT WAS NOT ME AT THE =
WHEEL!! Karl Chandeck was driving for me : not a prof racer but very =
fast anyway. Sadly the engine broke : holed engine block and big fire. I =
was always faster than the MG's but now being 68yrs old, I got slower =
and slower in the last couple of years without noticing it. I thought it =
was my car and I worked on it, but I remained in the midfield instead of =
at the front&nbsp; where I used to be. My car getting faster and me =
getting slower : the result has been a steady state. With 68yrs one =
hasn't to be slow, but for me it has turned out like that. But I hope it =
is not a definite fate and Karl is learning me to be faster again. We'll =
see if I'll succeed, if not, Karl will take over the driving completely. =
Next race is at Zandvoort on septembre the 12th. Watch this =
space!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>M=
arcel<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter =
id=3Dzwchr></span></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>V=
an: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>&=
quot;fot&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Aan: =
</b>&quot;Michael Deweerd&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelndeweerd@gmail.com";>michaelndeweerd@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;, &quot;tr4racing&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt;=
<br><b>Cc: </b>&quot;fot&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Verzo=
nden: </b>Donderdag 20 augustus 2020 19:20:57<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: =
[Fot] Grattan race 2<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Forgot to mention, my engine has 178 hp, but the =
torque is the secret=E2=80=A6.225Nm.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'color:black'>Von:</span></b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'color:black'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@gmail.com";>tr4racing@gmail.com</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@gmail.com";>tr4racing@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 19:18<br><b>An:</b> =
'Michael Deweerd' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelndeweerd@gmail.com";>michaelndeweerd@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;; 'tr4racing@googlemail.com' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt;=
<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Kas Kastner' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com";>kaskastner@gmail.com</a>&gt;; =
'fot@autox. team. net' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Betre=
ff:</b> AW: [Fot] Grattan race 2</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'color:black'>Mike,</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DDE style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>my engine is really nothing =
special.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Standard crank, standard valves, good ported head, =
good camshaft, Ford Rods (I remember Tony has organized them for me), =
Phoenix exhaust head, 48 Webers, that=E2=80=99s =
all.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>My car is handling great. With good brake pads the =
standard brakes do very fine. Cast iron drums at the rear, Swaybars at =
front and rear.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>There you have it. From last to win =
(okay=E2=80=A6.I was sat back to 4<sup>th</sup> because I accidently =
overtook under yellow)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'><a =
href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4"; =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4</a><o:p><=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'color:black'>Von:</span></b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'color:black'> Michael Deweerd &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelndeweerd@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">michaelndeweerd@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:54<br><b>An:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Kas Kastner =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">kaskastner@gmail.com</a>&gt;; fot@autox. team. net =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: =
[Fot] Grattan race 2</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Chris. I want what you =
have for breakfast!! &nbsp;175-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve not had my new =
engine on a dyno but I don=E2=80=99t think I=E2=80=99ll have that number =
Of ponies.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>We should talk because =
there are some =E2=80=9Ckiller B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D here in Canada that =
need squashing lol&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Mike&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at =
9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Yep, =
MGs are lighter and I think they have a tiny advantage on tight =
corners.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>But Triumphs do better from my =
experience.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>My TR4 with 88mm bore is doing quite well and is =
on most cases faster than a MG.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'color:black'>Von:</span></b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'color:black'> Kas Kastner &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">kaskastner@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11<br><b>An:</b> MadMarx &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> =
Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>I see the same thing here =
with&nbsp;good Mg's quicker than&nbsp;the TR-4 cars.&nbsp; =
EXCEPT&nbsp;we have a couple TR-4's that are better prepared&nbsp;with =
the engine&nbsp;(bigger) and they are much better than the M.G.'s.&nbsp; =
I also think &nbsp;the MG's are&nbsp; a lot lighter&nbsp;in =
weight&nbsp;for all seem very quick out of a corner. I also think that =
the MG engine is a lot better design to start with than thee TR-4 =
engine.&nbsp; Way back in years I built MG engines&nbsp;and they were =
excellent in using high revs and very reliable.<br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p><strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#000099'=
>Never be beaten by equipment.</span></strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><=
div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>On Thu, Aug =
20, 2020 at 6:04 AM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><block=
quote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm =
0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Very well driven.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Wondering why these MGs =
and Porsches are that quick?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Normally Triumphs eat MGs =
and Porsches for Breakfast ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>What power do they =
make?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Here in Europe MGs are in the 160Hp range, while =
TR 4s are about 175-190 Hp range.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at =
11:54 PM Tony Drews via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Another Grattan video.&nbsp; Fantastic battle with =
Scott Fohrman in an MGB <br><br>and Michael Moore in his beautiful red =
TR-4.&nbsp; 13 minutes of full-on racing.<br><br><br><br><a =
href=3D"https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c"; =
target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c</a><br><br><br><br>Cheers,=
 Tony =
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