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To: Rich Hahn <putinbaytr3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Under Hood Vents
From: Terry Sopher via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:45:37 -0400
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I had one on my =E2=80=9866 TR4A - really liked it and didn=E2=80=99t find i=
t hard to install at all (same time to erect as my MK2 Spitfire soft top!).=20=


The design stopped the wind buffeting in the cockpit.  The center aluminum p=
anel would not fit in the boot or in the cockpit.  It was for wintertime.  T=
he soft top was for top down weather - quick changes for inclement weather. =
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They are pricy now and desirable for TR4, TR4A, TR250/5.  Been thinking abou=
t getting one for my TR250 road car.

The plastic version Looked like the surrey (w/out removable center) and was s=
old into TR6 production.

Yes, Porsche copied it & renamed it!  Triumph led the way with the idea!  Tr=
iumph was often the first in many of the features on their cars, like: disc b=
rakes, roll up windows and more - Read the Original Triumph TRs by Piggott. =
 Great resources!

Best, Terry=20

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 15:58, Rich Hahn via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> The TR4, 4A and maybe the 250 had the Surrey Top option.  I have an origin=
al one on my TR4A but not the hard center section.  I don't know how many th=
ey ultimately made but you better be able to anticipate rain by about a half=
 hour to erect the soft center piece with its "erector set" framework, thumb=
 screws that you have to be a contortionist to screw up into the rear sectio=
n from inside and then the little hooks and snaps that keep it from flying o=
ff!!!  The hooks on the windshield post and rear post were really good at go=
uging you when you were in a hurry.  It was good in theory and looked good b=
ut very crazy in execution!!!  Not much structural integrity either as it wa=
s a giant cast piece of aluminum or pot metal.  It just bolted on in place o=
f the convertible frame.  Triumph got it wrong in name and execution but Por=
sche refined it and called it a Targa.!!!
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> hought the TR4A too. It cost an extra $100 over the convertible version. I=
 never saw one back in the day. An accessory soft "surrey" top could .be use=
d when the hardtop panel was removed. - Larry
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> On 8/27/2020 4:23 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote:
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> This car appears to be a Targa Top car.  I had never noticed it before, bu=
t this makes sense for racing.  I don't know if they ever made a true "hardt=
op" for the TR-4, like the Steel TR-3 hardtop.  I've never seen one.  If not=
, then the Targa Top would be a good alternative to improve aerodynamics (Ve=
rses the open car), assuming you kept the solid roof panel in place.  I have=
 seen a few aftermarket plastic hardtops, in fact my race car came with one,=
 but never a true hardtop from the factory.  Just an observation.  Any comme=
nts?
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> Jack
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> On Thursday, August 27, 2020, 4:48:07 PM EDT, J Wagner via Fot <fot@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
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> I saw these for sale on craigslist just now and I thought to share them wi=
th the FOT.  It is my understanding the grills used on the 60=E2=80=99s Triu=
mph Works TR4s=E2=80=99 engine bay vents were repurposed grills from the Tri=
umph Herald. =20
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> Here=E2=80=99s a pair for sale.  (Old TR4 pics from the web just for refer=
ence)
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> I have no connection with the seller.
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> =E2=80=94Justin
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> 1962 Triumph Herald Grills - auto parts - by owner - vehicle...
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">I had one on my =E2=80=986=
6 TR4A - really liked it and didn=E2=80=99t find it hard to install at all (=
same time to erect as my MK2 Spitfire soft top!).&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The design stopped the wind buffeting in the co=
ckpit. &nbsp;The center aluminum panel would not fit in the boot or in the c=
ockpit. &nbsp;It was for wintertime. &nbsp;The soft top was for top down wea=
ther - quick changes for inclement weather. &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">They are pricy now and desirable for TR4, TR4A, TR25=
0/5. &nbsp;Been thinking about getting one for my TR250 road car.</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The plastic version Looked like the su=
rrey (w/out removable center) and was sold into TR6 production.</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, Porsche copied it &amp; renamed it=
! &nbsp;Triumph led the way with the idea! &nbsp;Triumph was often the first=
 in many of the features on their cars, like: disc brakes, roll up windows a=
nd more - Read the Original Triumph TRs by Piggott. &nbsp;Great resources!</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Best, Terry&nbsp;</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Aug 28, 2020, at 15:58, Rich Hah=
n via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydp97fef25yahoo-=
style-wrap" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-ser=
if; font-size: 13px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">The TR4, 4A and maybe the 250=
 had the Surrey Top option.&nbsp; I have an original one on my TR4A but not t=
he hard center section.&nbsp; I don't know how many they ultimately made but=
 you better be able to anticipate rain by about a half hour to erect the sof=
t center piece with its "erector set" framework, thumb screws that you have t=
o be a contortionist to screw up into the rear section from inside and then t=
he little hooks and snaps that keep it from flying off!!!&nbsp; The hooks on=
 the windshield post and rear post were really good at gouging you when you w=
ere in a hurry.&nbsp; It was good in theory and looked good but very crazy i=
n execution!!!&nbsp; Not much structural integrity either as it was a giant c=
ast piece of aluminum or pot metal.&nbsp; It just bolted on in place of the c=
onvertible frame.&nbsp; Triumph got it wrong in name and execution but Porsc=
he refined it and called it a Targa.!!!</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span style=3D"colo=
r: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
><span style=3D"color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false"><span style=3D"color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><br></span></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span style=3D"color: rgb(38, 40, 4=
2);">hought the TR4A too.
    It cost an extra $100 over the convertible version. I never saw one
    back in the day. An accessory soft "surrey" top could .be used when
    the hardtop panel was removed. - Larry</span></div></div><div id=3D"ydp7=
37b6ef9yahoo_quoted_8669686392" class=3D"ydp737b6ef9yahoo_quoted"><div style=
=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13p=
x;color:#26282a;"><div><div id=3D"ydp737b6ef9yiv1515360837"><div>
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div class=3D"ydp737b6ef9yiv1515360837yqt9867066227" id=3D"ydp737b6ef9yi=
v1515360837yqtfd00117"><div class=3D"ydp737b6ef9yiv1515360837moz-cite-prefix=
">On 8/27/2020 4:23 PM, Jack Wheeler via
      Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"ydp737b6ef9yiv1515360837yqt9867=
066227" id=3D"ydp737b6ef9yiv1515360837yqtfd99666"></div><div><div class=3D"y=
dp737b6ef9yiv1515360837yqt9867066227" id=3D"ydp737b6ef9yiv1515360837yqtfd506=
69"><div class=3D"ydp737b6ef9yiv1515360837ydpb89710ccyahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;=
">
        <div dir=3D"ltr"><span>This car appears to be
            a Targa Top car.&nbsp; </span>I had never noticed it before, but=

          this makes sense for racing.&nbsp; I don't know if they ever made a=

          true "hardtop" for the TR-4, like the Steel TR-3 hardtop.&nbsp;
          I've never seen one.&nbsp; If not, then the Targa Top would be a
          good alternative to improve aerodynamics (Verses the open
          car), assuming you kept the solid roof panel in place.&nbsp; I hav=
e
          seen a few aftermarket plastic hardtops, in fact my race car
          came with one, but never a true hardtop from the factory.&nbsp;
          Just an observation.&nbsp; Any comments?</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br clear=3D"none">
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        <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-s=
erif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
          <div> On Thursday, August 27, 2020, 4:48:07 PM EDT, J Wagner
            via Fot <a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydp737b6ef9yiv1515360837moz-t=
xt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=
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            <div dir=3D"ltr">I saw these for sale on craigslist just now
              and I thought to share them with the FOT.&nbsp; It is my
              understanding the grills used on the 60=E2=80=99s Triumph Work=
s
              TR4s=E2=80=99 engine bay vents were repurposed grills from the=

              Triumph Herald.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">
            </div>
            <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
            </div>
            <div dir=3D"ltr">Here=E2=80=99s a pair for sale.&nbsp; (Old TR4 p=
ics from
              the web just for reference)<br clear=3D"none">
            </div>
            <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
            </div>
            <div dir=3D"ltr">I have no connection with the seller.<br clear=3D=
"none">
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            <div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=94Justin<br clear=3D"none">
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