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Paul...
As one of the earliest VSCDA members, I recall their Medical Form was meant=
to get a respected medical expert (a doctor) to say, "I know of no medical=
reasons that should prevent this VSCDA member from racing.".=C2=A0 I remem=
ber thinking, "Who the hell would want to sign that?"=C2=A0 But they did.
Now, if VSCDA is going to start second guessing these "experts", I wonder i=
f it is something their insurance carrier is encouraging.=C2=A0 Regardless,=
they're opening a can of worms.=C2=A0 My guess is there is one (or several=
) people they are worried about.
Damned if you do and damned if you don't.=C2=A0 Certainly a member with boa=
rderline medicals can find some doctor, somewhere to sign his form.=C2=A0 I=
f the Board feels qualified to second guess this stuff, they must feel it i=
s important, because when you start drawing such lines (not accepting signe=
d medicals), you've opened a can of worms.
Bill Dentinger
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Ricco via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com>
Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, May 18, 2020 8:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: 34th Vintage Grand Prix AuGrattan Registration is o=
pen
John,
I agree with you. =C2=A0Last week, I told them that I would not be running =
events with them under these terms. =C2=A0I explained that I Look forward t=
o seeing them when things return to reality. =C2=A0They have someone involv=
ed with the board that is taking all of this way too far.=C2=A0
We hope to run a few SVRA events later in the season, if some of this settl=
es down. =C2=A0We know they are working hard to find a way to get the seaso=
n going.=C2=A0
We are not concerned about the exposure of being at the track. We feel all =
the rest of this non-sense will take all the fun out of being there. =C2=A0=
So we will wait and see before we start spending money.=C2=A0
Paul Ricco
Sent from my iPhone
On May 18, 2020, at 8:25 PM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wro=
te:
=EF=BB=BF
HOLY COW, Now VSCDA has a "Driver's Good Faith Medical Statement"=C2=A0 spe=
cific to COVID-19 exposure and possible infection prior to participation.=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0They also want permission to access your health information.=
=C2=A0 Not on my life!
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Vintage Sports Car Drivers Association <vscda@mail.vscda.org>
Date: Mon, May 18, 2020 at 3:08 PM
Subject: 34th Vintage Grand Prix AuGrattan Registration is open
To: john styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com>
john=C2=A0styduhar2020 VSCDA Grattan Summer Party Invitation=C2=A0The 34th =
Vintage Grand Prix AuGrattan offers the best value in vintage racing, with =
more track time per day on one of the most challenging race tracks in the M=
idwest! You just haven=E2=80=99t raced until you have raced at Grattan! Fin=
d out what makes this event so special as we combine racing and social gath=
erings in one fun filled weekend.=C2=A0Join us as we welcome the Featured M=
arque; S2000 racers, along with the Great Lakes Vintage Challenge, The Tran=
s Am Series races, Formula Vee series and Spridget Race series in a racing =
weekend that you will not easily forget! Racing activities each day are fol=
lowed by catered banquet dinners Friday and Saturday night and local microb=
rewery beers and wine.=C2=A0Our weekend of racing will provide special oppo=
rtunities to benefit the Disabled American Veterans, where a small donation=
will get you a ride in a race car or a sports car to experience this magni=
ficent roller coaster track on our Saturday Rides for Charity event. For ou=
r drivers, we will once again host an Enduro race to also support the Disab=
led American Veterans charity, sponsored by Jeff Porasik/Raymond James Advi=
sors.=C2=A0Join us and see why this is the =E2=80=9CMust attend=E2=80=9D ev=
ent of the summer. You simply cannot pass up the value in the amount of tra=
ck time, challenging wheel-to-wheel racing, coupled with the paddock friend=
ships and food. We hope to see you there!=C2=A0REGISTER FOR BLACKHAWK HERES=
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<div><font color=3D"red">Paul...</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"red"></font><br>
</div>
<div><font color=3D"red">As one of the earliest VSCDA members, I recall the=
ir Medical Form was meant to get a respected medical expert (a doctor) to s=
ay, "<i>I know of no medical reasons that should prevent this VSCDA member =
from racing</i>.". I remember thinking, "Who the hell would want to s=
ign that?" But they did.</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"red"></font><br>
</div>
<div><font color=3D"red">Now, if VSCDA is going to start second guessing th=
ese "experts", I wonder if it is something their insurance carrier is encou=
raging. Regardless, they're opening a can of worms. My guess is=
there is one (or several) people they are worried about.</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"red"></font><br>
</div>
<div><font color=3D"red">Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Ce=
rtainly a member with boarderline medicals can find some doctor, somewhere =
to sign his form. If the Board feels qualified to second guess this s=
tuff, they must feel it is important, because when you start drawing such l=
ines (not accepting signed medicals), you've opened a can of worms.</font><=
/div>
<div><font color=3D"red"></font><br>
</div>
<div><font color=3D"red">Bill Dentinger</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"red"></font><br>
</div>
<br>
<br>
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From: Paul Ricco via Fot <fot@autox.team.net><br>
To: John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com><br>
Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Mon, May 18, 2020 8:07 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: 34th Vintage Grand Prix AuGrattan Registration is o=
pen<br>
<br>
<div id=3D"yiv5743749392">
<div>John,
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>I agree with you. Last week, I told them that I would not be run=
ning events with them under these terms. I explained that I Look forw=
ard to seeing them when things return to reality. They have someone i=
nvolved with the board that is taking all of this way too far. </div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>We hope to run a few SVRA events later in the season, if some of this =
settles down. We know they are working hard to find a way to get the =
season going. </div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>We are not concerned about the exposure of being at the track. We feel=
all the rest of this non-sense will take all the fun out of being there. &=
nbsp; So we will wait and see before we start spending money. </div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Paul Ricco<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 18, 20=
20, at 8:25 PM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br =
clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"yiv5743749392gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div>
<div class=3D"yiv5743749392gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;">HOLY C=
OW, Now VSCDA has a "Driver's Good Faith Medical Statement" specific =
to COVID-19 exposure and possible infection prior to participation. &=
nbsp;They also want permission to access your health information. Not=
on my life!</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
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<div class=3D"yiv5743749392gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">---------- Forwarded mes=
sage ---------<br clear=3D"none">From: <strong class=3D"yiv5743749392gmail_=
sendername">Vintage Sports Car Drivers Association</strong> <span><<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:vscda@mail.vscda.org"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:vscda@mail.vscda.org";>vscda@mail.vscda.org</a>&=
gt;</span><br clear=3D"none">Date: Mon, May 18, 2020 at 3:08 PM<br clear=3D=
"none">Subject: 34th Vintage Grand Prix AuGrattan Registration is open<br c=
lear=3D"none">To: john styduhar <<a href=3D"mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com"; =
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<div>john styduhar</div>
<div></div>
<div>2020 VSCDA Grattan Summer Party Invitation</div>
<div>The 34<sup>th</sup> Vintage Grand Prix AuGrattan offers the best value=
in vintage racing, with more track time per day on one of the most challen=
ging race tracks in the Midwest! You just haven=E2=80=99t raced until you h=
ave raced at Grattan! Find out what makes this event so special as we combi=
ne racing and social gatherings in one fun filled weekend.</div>
<div>Join us as we welcome the Featured Marque; S2000 racers, along with th=
e Great Lakes Vintage Challenge, The Trans Am Series races, Formula Vee ser=
ies and Spridget Race series in a racing weekend that you will not easily f=
orget! Racing activities each day are followed by catered banquet dinners F=
riday and Saturday night and local microbrewery beers and wine.</div>
<div>Our weekend of racing will provide special opportunities to benefit th=
e Disabled American Veterans, where a small donation will get you a ride in=
a race car or a sports car to experience this magnificent roller coaster t=
rack on our Saturday Rides for Charity event. For our drivers, we will once=
again host an Enduro race to also support the Disabled American Veterans c=
harity, sponsored by Jeff Porasik/Raymond James Advisors.</div>
<div>Join us and see why this is the =E2=80=9CMust attend=E2=80=9D event of=
the summer. You simply cannot pass up the value in the amount of track tim=
e, challenging wheel-to-wheel racing, coupled with the paddock friendships =
and food. We hope to see you there!</div>
<div></div>
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