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Subject: Re: [Fot] Doug Still Guides Me...
From: Greg Blake via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 17:38:02 -0500
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Especially if you want cam bearings in a TR6 block. Frustrating indeed.=20

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> On Mar 23, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote=
:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> I'm in a pretty big metro area in Austin and we have no local line boring a=
vailable.  Very frustrating.
> =20
> Bob Kramer
>=20
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>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 11:36 AM Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
>> Interesting...I thought that would be a standard machine shop operation, l=
ike resizing rods.
>>=20
>> Apparently not...
>>=20
>>=20
>> Brad Eells
>> Chino CA
>> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3
>> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4
>> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
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>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 8:30 AM Bud Rolofson <levilevi@comcast.net> wrot=
e:
>>> Speaking of main caps I bought a block that turned out to not have the o=
riginal main caps. The caps on there did not match up with the block but I=E2=
=80=99ve been unable to find a machine shop that can machine them so there=E2=
=80=99s a round hole for the crank. The shop I had do my last block (and the=
y do 427 race engines among others and are well respected) told me that the r=
esult would be ovaled out holes (not round) which obviously is not good.
>>> Certainly there=E2=80=99s a way to make this work but I haven=E2=80=99t f=
ound it. I checked out another block shop but said they subcontract line-bor=
ing to the the shop that said they couldn=E2=80=99t do it.=20
>>>=20
>>> Has anyone else encountered this problem? I=E2=80=99ve heard that steel m=
ains might be an answer but they=E2=80=99d still have to be line-bored to ma=
ke them match. I hate to ship a block to get this done before I have reassur=
ances that they can make it work but does anyone know of that has successful=
ly made main caps match the block? Given I=E2=80=99m spending a lot of time t=
hese days staying home and catching up on car projects in the shop I figured=
 it would be a good time to start building the next engine.
>>>=20
>>> Solutions or recommendations?
>>>=20
>>> Thanks
>>> Bud
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wr=
ote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Amici,
>>>>=20
>>>> In typically rookie race engine builder mode with the block I selected f=
or rebuild, I pulled the main bearing caps (with my new fancy DeWalt 20V Imp=
act Wrench) and then couldn't remember which way around they went.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> This led to visions of catastrophic failure somewhere down the road. Ye=
t, I had several other blocks I could flip over and make a determination if n=
eed be.
>>>>=20
>>>> I was examining one of the caps when I discovered the faintest engravin=
g on the surface of each cap:
>>>>=20
>>>> Eng #2 Front Fwd
>>>> Eng #2 Mid Fwd
>>>> Eng #2 Rr Fwd
>>>>=20
>>>> Doug Brown, my original owner/builder/driver extraordinaire had engrave=
d each cap for me to make sure a mistake didn't occur. He rotated 3 engines d=
uring each season in a quest for Divisional and National Championships.
>>>>=20
>>>> I guess that is the way a aeronautical/mechanical engineer and very suc=
cessful racer thinks.
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks again Doug!
>>>>=20
>>>> <IMG_8745.jpg>
>>>>=20
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Brad Eells
>>>> Chino CA
>>>> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3
>>>> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4
>>>> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
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>>>=20
>>> Bud Rolofson
>>>=20
>>> Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)
>>>=20
>>> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
>>> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
>>> 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
>>> 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20
>>> 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Especially if you want cam bearings in a TR=
6 block. Frustrating indeed.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPho=
ne</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 23, 2020, at 2=
:21 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockq=
uote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"l=
tr">I'm in a pretty big metro area in Austin and we have no local line borin=
g available.&nbsp; Very frustrating.<div>&nbsp;<br clear=3D"all"><div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 11=
:36 AM Brad Eells via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Interesting...I thought that would be a standard mac=
hine shop operation, like resizing rods.<div><br></div><div>Apparently not..=
.</div><div><br></div><div><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font-siz=
e:12.8px"><b><font color=3D"#000000">Brad Eells</font></b></div><div style=3D=
"font-size:12.8px"><b><font color=3D"#000000">Chino CA</font></b></div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font color=3D"#000000">#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spi=
tfire Mk3</font></b></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font color=3D"=
#000000">#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4</font></b></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.=
8px"><b><font color=3D"#000000">1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!</font>=
</b><br></div></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font color=3D"#00000=
0"><img src=3D"https://docs.google.com/uc?export=3Ddownload&amp;id=3D1HyYLxa=
1_Lz_Q0kLM3GRJryNDgfOwZyUc&amp;revid=3D0B9vVTDWaFCqFVmR6Q1FsMExZTHVLcHpja3Bp=
SC9ucGcveHdJPQ" width=3D"96" height=3D"94" data-unique-identifier=3D""><br><=
/font></b></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 23, 2=
020 at 8:30 AM Bud Rolofson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:levilevi@comcast.net"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">levilevi@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb=
(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Speaking of main caps I bought a block t=
hat turned out to not have the original main caps. The caps on there did not=
 match up with the block but I=E2=80=99ve been unable to find a machine shop=
 that can machine them so there=E2=80=99s a round hole for the crank. The sh=
op I had do my last block (and they do 427 race engines among others and are=
 well respected) told me that the result would be ovaled out holes (not roun=
d) which obviously is not good.<div>Certainly there=E2=80=99s a way to make t=
his work but I haven=E2=80=99t found it. I checked out another block shop bu=
t said they subcontract line-boring to the the shop that said they couldn=E2=
=80=99t do it.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Has anyone else encountered th=
is problem? I=E2=80=99ve heard that steel mains might be an answer but they=E2=
=80=99d still have to be line-bored to make them match. I hate to ship a blo=
ck to get this done before I have reassurances that they can make it work bu=
t does anyone know of that has successfully made main caps match the block? G=
iven I=E2=80=99m spending a lot of time these days staying home and catching=
 up on car projects in the shop I figured it would be a good time to start b=
uilding the next engine.</div><div><br></div><div>Solutions or recommendatio=
ns?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div>Bud<br><div><br></div><div>&nb=
sp;<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Mar 22, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Brad=
 Eells via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">f=
ot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Amici,<div><=
br></div><div>In typically rookie race engine builder mode with the block I s=
elected for rebuild, I pulled the main bearing caps (with my new fancy DeWal=
t 20V Impact Wrench) and then couldn't remember which way around they went.&=
nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>This led to visions of catastrophic failure s=
omewhere down the road. Yet, I had several other blocks I could flip over an=
d make a determination if need be.</div><div><br></div><div>I was examining o=
ne of the caps when I discovered the faintest engraving on the surface of ea=
ch cap:<br><br>Eng #2 Front Fwd</div><div>Eng #2 Mid Fwd</div><div>Eng #2 Rr=
 Fwd</div><div><br></div><div>Doug Brown, my original owner/builder/driver e=
xtraordinaire had engraved each cap for me to make sure a mistake didn't occ=
ur. He rotated 3 engines during each season in a quest for Divisional and Na=
tional Championships.</div><div><br></div><div>I guess that is the way a aer=
onautical/mechanical engineer and very successful&nbsp;racer thinks.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Thanks again Doug!</div><div><br></div><div><div><span id=3D=
"gmail-m_-572788421225712968gmail-m_3153764041718801694cid:ii_k83wus460">&lt=
;IMG_8745.jpg&gt;</span><br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br>=
</div><div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font>Br=
ad Eells</font></b></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font>Chino CA</=
font></b></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font>#72 FP 1969 Triumph S=
pitfire Mk3</font></b></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font>#35 DP 1=
962 Triumph TR4</font></b></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font>196=
5 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!</font></b><br></div></div><div style=3D"f=
ont-size:12.8px"><b><font><img src=3D"https://docs.google.com/uc?export=3Ddo=
wnload&amp;id=3D1HyYLxa1_Lz_Q0kLM3GRJryNDgfOwZyUc&amp;revid=3D0B9vVTDWaFCqFV=
mR6Q1FsMExZTHVLcHpja3BpSC9ucGcveHdJPQ" width=3D"96" height=3D"94" data-uniqu=
e-identifier=3D""><br></font></b></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></=
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Bud Rolofson<br><br>Extreme Parts Racing&nbsp;(more than just a haircut)<br>=
<br>71TR6 CC57365 (Good&nbsp;6)<br>71 Spitfire MK IV Race&nbsp;Car #3<br>69 S=
pitfire MK III (back&nbsp;up FE engine/dinghy car)<br>93 Minnie Winnie Race&=
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