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Subject: Re: [Fot] Differential Pre-load
From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 02:16:08 -0700
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On 1/30/20 2:11 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot wrote:
> Barry, if that is true about the rollers/races, how do you explain the 
> prescripion about the front wheel bearings : you need to back off the 
> stub axle nut to get some play for the bearings?
> Marcel
Likewise with Series Land Rover wheel bearings. Leave them tight and 
they quickly die.
TeriAnn
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> *Van: *"fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
> *Aan: *"fubog1" <fubog1@aol.com>, "Bob Kramer" <rkramer56@gmail.com>
> *Cc: *"fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
> *Verzonden: *Woensdag 29 januari 2020 19:02:55
> *Onderwerp: *Re: [Fot] Differential Pre-load
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> Preload is more for the life of the bearings than the gears. You 
> preload a bearing to take up manufacturing tolerances and account for 
> the anticipated (by the manufacturer of the bearings) wear during 
> their life time. There does need to be some 'squeeze" between the 
> bearing races and the rollers or the rollers will not roll in 
> lubrication. If any of you have ever rebuilt the rear outer suspension 
> on old XKEs, the tapers roller bearing in the outer wishbone pivots 
> wear out because the wishbone only moves up and down a few degrees. 
> The tapered roller bearings never fully rotate and cause the rollers 
> and race to pit. Roller bearing must roll 360 degrees around to 
> survive. Preload makes them do that.
>
> Barry
>
> On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 09:41:34 AM EST, Bob Kramer via Fot 
> <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> I think the main reason a specified amount of  preload is required is 
> that it sets it up so that the bearings roll under mild tension. To 
> tight and the components slide over each other.  Too loose and they 
> cock in place. Without rolling, bearings will soon fail the same way a 
> lifter that doesn't spin fails.
>
> Bob Kramer
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/30/20 2:11 AM,
      van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot wrote:<br>
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        <div>Barry, if that is true about the rollers/races, how do you
          explain the prescripion about the front wheel bearings : you
          need to back off the stub axle nut to get some play for the
          bearings?</div>
        <div>Marcel</div>
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    Likewise with Series Land Rover wheel bearings. Leave them tight and
    they quickly die.<br>
    TeriAnn<br>
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        <div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"fot"
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href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Aan: </b>"fubog1" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:fubog1@aol.com";>&lt;fubog1@aol.com&gt;</a>, "Bob Kramer"
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:rkramer56@gmail.com";>&lt;rkramer56@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Cc: </b>"fot" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Verzonden: </b>Woensdag 29 januari 2020 19:02:55<br>
          <b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Differential Pre-load<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">Preload is more for the life of the bearings
              than the gears. You preload a bearing to take up
              manufacturing tolerances and account for the anticipated
              (by the manufacturer of the bearings) wear during their
              life time. There does need to be some 'squeeze" between
              the bearing races and the rollers or the rollers will not
              roll in lubrication. If any of you have ever rebuilt the
              rear outer suspension on old XKEs, the tapers roller
              bearing in the outer wishbone pivots wear out because the
              wishbone only moves up and down a few degrees. The tapered
              roller bearings never fully rotate and cause the rollers
              and race to pit. Roller bearing must roll 360 degrees
              around to survive. Preload makes them do that.</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">Barry</div>
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              <div> On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 09:41:34 AM EST, Bob
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                    <div dir="ltr">I think the main reason a specified
                      amount of  preload is required is that it sets it
                      up so that the bearings roll under mild tension.
                      To tight and the components slide over each
                      other.  Too loose and they cock in place. Without
                      rolling, bearings will soon fail the same way a
                      lifter that doesn't spin fails.
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                            <div dir="ltr">Bob Kramer</div>
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