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Re: [Fot] TR-3, 4 Engine Studs

To: "'Jack Wheeler'" <jwheeler1947@yahoo.com>, "'FOT List'" <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-3, 4 Engine Studs
From: Tim Hutchisen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 07:03:50 -0500
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Jack,

I would suspect that there are many TR's out there that have incorrect =
length cylinder head studs installed. If you were to make up proper sets =
of stud kits, you could recoup some of your financial investment by =
selling "correct" stud sets? I'd be in line for purchase as I am pretty =
sure my TR3A is not correct in this department.

Tim Hutchisen

Norway ME

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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jack Wheeler =
via Fot
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 9:05 AM
To: FOT List <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] TR-3, 4 Engine Studs

=20

Call me crazy, but yes, I am a pack rat.  During the 25 years that I was =
racing a TR-4 I acquired many parts cars to support my racing hobby.  =
When I parted out these cars,m I kept anything that could possibly be =
used one day.

=20

Cylinder head studs:  I've heard lots of theories about them.  =
Everything from "you must change every time you rebuild" to "keep using =
them forever".  My actual experience is closer to the latter.  During =
the time that I raced, I never bought an engine stud (cylinder head, or =
otherwise).  When I disassembled an engine, I inspected the cylinder =
head studs, and unless there were major gouges or other obvious defects, =
I kept the studs (5 different lengths).  I used, and re-used these studs =
through 25 years of racing, and lots of hours in street cars, and have =
never had one break.  That's the only evidence I can give for the =
quality of the design of these studs.

=20

So now, I am cleaning out my garage and I have a lot of head studs, as =
follows:

.  48 - 9" studs

.  21 - 9 1/2" studs

.  71 - 5" studs

.  39 - 5 3/8" studs

.  12 - 5 1/2" studs

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This last one (5 1/2"), is the one used at the passenger side rear =
corner of the engine, on engines starting with the TR-3B through the =
TR-4A.  It is slightly longer than the other short studs on the right =
side of the engine, to accommodate the lifting bracket which attaches to =
this stud.

=20

I'm trying to figure out what to do with these studs.  I could take them =
to the scrap metal yard, and get pennies per pound for them.  But that =
is a difficult step for a pack rat.  So, anyone have any ideas?  Because =
of the weight, they are expensive to ship.  I'd be happy to give them =
(or some of them) to anyone who has a use for them.  The FOT has always =
been helpful for me in the past, and I'm sure you will come up with =
something this time.

=20

Thank you, and best regards,

=20

Jack


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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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>Jack,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>I would suspect that there are many TR's out there that have incorrect =
length cylinder head studs installed. If you were to make up proper sets =
of stud kits, you could recoup some of your financial investment by =
selling &quot;correct&quot; stud sets? I'd be in line for purchase as I =
am pretty sure my TR3A is not correct in this =
department.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Tim Hutchisen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Norway ME<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jack Wheeler =
via Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 17, 2020 9:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
FOT List &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Fot] TR-3, 4 =
Engine Studs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Call me =
crazy, but yes, I am a pack rat.&nbsp; During the 25 years that I was =
racing a TR-4 I acquired many parts cars to support my racing =
hobby.&nbsp; When I parted out these cars,m I kept anything that could =
possibly be used one day.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Cylinder =
head studs:&nbsp; I've heard lots of theories about them.&nbsp; =
Everything from &quot;you must change every time you rebuild&quot; to =
&quot;keep using them forever&quot;.&nbsp; My actual experience is =
closer to the latter.&nbsp; During the time that I raced, I never bought =
an engine stud (cylinder head, or otherwise).&nbsp; When I disassembled =
an engine, I inspected the cylinder head studs, and unless there were =
major gouges or other obvious defects, I kept the studs (5 different =
lengths).&nbsp; I used, and re-used these studs through 25 years of =
racing, and lots of hours in street cars, and have never had one =
break.&nbsp; That's the only evidence I can give for the quality of the =
design of these studs.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>So now, I =
am cleaning out my garage and I have a lot of head studs, as =
follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>.&nbsp; 48 =
- 9&quot; studs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>.&nbsp; 21 =
- 9 1/2&quot; studs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>.&nbsp; 71 =
- 5&quot; studs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>.&nbsp; 39 =
- 5 3/8&quot; studs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>.&nbsp; 12 =
- 5 1/2&quot; studs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>This last =
one (5 1/2&quot;), is the one used at the passenger side rear corner of =
the engine, on engines starting with the TR-3B through the TR-4A.&nbsp; =
It is slightly longer than the other short studs on the right side of =
the engine, to accommodate the lifting bracket which attaches to this =
stud.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I'm trying =
to figure out what to do with these studs.&nbsp; I could take them to =
the scrap metal yard, and get pennies per pound for them.&nbsp; But that =
is a difficult step for a pack rat.&nbsp; So, anyone have any =
ideas?&nbsp; Because of the weight, they are expensive to ship.&nbsp; =
I'd be happy to give them (or some of them) to anyone who has a use for =
them.&nbsp; The FOT has always been helpful for me in the past, and I'm =
sure you will come up with something this =
time.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Thank you, =
and best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Jack<o:p></=
o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>
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