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To: tr4racing@googlemail.com, Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] To be seen at the Kastner Cup
From: DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 07:43:38 -0800 (PST)
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This car is a TR3 Beta.  3 to 5 of them were made as prototypes in 1959.  W=
ell before the TR4A IRS.  My memory was just refreshed of these cars from r=
eading Bill Piggott's Triumph TR book.  Wide bodies were made to fit the de=
veloping TR4 frame, which was still a solid axle but it had ring and pinion=
 steering.  The leading edge of the doors were wider for a smooth transitio=
n to the wider fender. =20
The TR4 body design had not yet been completed, but the TRS was being devel=
oped has it's prototype.
The TR3B is a TR3A with a TR4 engine and trans that got the TCF prefix in t=
he VIN instead of the TR2-3s TS prefix.=20
Dave H. =20

> On December 30, 2019 at 6:44 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
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>     Widebody version on TR4 frame.
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>     Some Americans rejected the TR4 and the factory planted about 2000 bo=
dys on the TR4 frame.
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>     Unfortunately this car was never homologated =E2=80=93 would have bee=
n a great historic racer.
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>     Cheers
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>     Chris
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>     Von: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Terry Stetler vi=
a Fot
>     Gesendet: Montag, 30. Dezember 2019 14:53
>     An: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>; joealexandervintage@gmail.com; fot@autox=
.team.net
>     Betreff: Re: [Fot] To be seen at the Kastner Cup
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>     Good eye Glen, it looks like a TR3 body on a TR4A/IRS chassis with fe=
nders widened to cover the increased track of the newer chassis.
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>     Terry Stetler
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>     From: fubog1 via Fot mailto:fot@autox.team.net
>     Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 7:37 AM
>     To: joealexandervintage@gmail.com mailto:joealexandervintage@gmail.co=
m ; fot@autox.team.net mailto:fot@autox.team.net
>     Subject: Re: [Fot] To be seen at the Kastner Cup
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>     Something in the photo just doesn't seem right, it's out of proportio=
n, or maybe it's just my eyes...
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>     Glen
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>     From: Joe Alexander via Fot <fot@autox.team.net mailto:fot@autox.team=
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>     Subject: [Fot] To be seen at the Kastner Cup
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   This car is a TR3 Beta. &nbsp;3 to 5 of them were made as prototypes in =
1959. &nbsp;Well before the TR4A IRS. &nbsp;My memory was just refreshed of=
 these cars from reading Bill Piggott's Triumph TR book. &nbsp;Wide bodies =
were made to fit the developing TR4 frame, which was still a solid axle but=
 it had ring and pinion steering. &nbsp;The leading edge of the doors were =
wider for a smooth transition to the wider fender. &nbsp;
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;=
 color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">
   The TR4 body design had not yet been completed, but the TRS was being de=
veloped has it's prototype.
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;=
 color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">
   The TR3B is a TR3A with a TR4 engine and trans that got the TCF prefix i=
n the VIN instead of the TR2-3s TS prefix.&nbsp;
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  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;=
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   Dave H. &nbsp;
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   On December 30, 2019 at 6:44 AM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.ne=
t&gt; wrote:=20
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   <div class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-WordSection1">
    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">TR3B</p>
    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">Widebody version on TR4 frame.</p>
    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">Some Americans rejected the TR4 an=
d the factory planted about 2000 bodys on the TR4 frame.</p>
    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">Unfortunately this car was never h=
omologated =E2=80=93 would have been a great historic racer.</p>
    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">Cheers</p>
    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">Chris</p>
    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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      <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal"><strong>Von:</strong> Fot &lt;fo=
t-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <strong>Im Auftrag von </strong>Terry Stetler =
via Fot<br><strong>Gesendet:</strong> Montag, 30. Dezember 2019 14:53<br><s=
trong>An:</strong> fubog1 &lt;fubog1@aol.com&gt;; joealexandervintage@gmail=
.com; fot@autox.team.net<br><strong>Betreff:</strong> Re: [Fot] To be seen =
at the Kastner Cup</p>
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    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">Good eye Glen, it looks like a TR3=
 body on a TR4A/IRS chassis with fenders widened to cover the increased tra=
ck of the newer chassis.</p>
    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">Terry Stetler</p>
    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.mi=
crosoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p>
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     <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal"><strong>From: </strong><a href=3D=
"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fubog1 via Fot</a><br><strong>Sent: </strong>Mo=
nday, December 30, 2019 7:37 AM<br><strong>To: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:j=
oealexandervintage@gmail.com">joealexandervintage@gmail.com</a>; <a href=3D=
"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><br><strong>Subject: </st=
rong>Re: [Fot] To be seen at the Kastner Cup</p>
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    <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; =
font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">Something in the photo just=
 doesn't seem right, it's out of proportion, or maybe it's just my eyes... =
</span></p>
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     <p class=3D"ox-b37612c7c9-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt;=
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