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To: Dean <tr3a58dean@gmail.com>, "fot@autox.team.net" <fot@autox.team.net>, Mike Jackson <grandwazoo@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Charlie Kates and his TR4
From: Mark Wheatley via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 21:15:33 +0000 (UTC)
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 It was great for me to be reminded with many of these recollections. I kne=
w pieces and parts, was at Mid Ohio in 2002 just getting started so was for=
tunate enough to participate.
But the best for me was the sharing of the conversation between Sandy and B=
etty.=C2=A0 Man if only she knew!!=C2=A0=20
I knew from the beginning Charlie was all in.=C2=A0 If he was you know Mike=
 was as well.=C2=A0 I learned quickly of Charlies efforts and decided to ma=
intain not change.=C2=A0 That has paid huge dividends for me and to this da=
y I annually reap the benefits=C2=A0 and=C2=A0 always am thankful for his c=
ommitments, efforts and engineering.
I have had Charlies car for over 20 years and I suspect it is not much diff=
erent today than it was when I acquired it. That says it all for me.
I will be at Mid Ohio, I am expecting=C2=A0 the same great fun described wi=
thin this thread.
Mark

    On Thursday, September 26, 2019, 2:35:24 PM EDT, Mike Jackson via Fot <=
fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 Charlies old TR4 is now owned and extremely well driven by Mark Wheatley.=
=C2=A0 It is a joy to see it every time its at the track with us.
I dont want to bore everyone with a hundred stories of that '92 weekend.=C2=
=A0 But, here's my favorite..Charlie and I remain great friends even tho he=
 races some Jap thingy now.=C2=A0 We had been running literally door handle=
 to door handle all weekend long and having a great time at it.=C2=A0 His w=
ife Betty passed away some years ago but she and my wife Sandy were on the =
hillside at the keyhole for the "big" race that weekend.=C2=A0 During the r=
ace as we continued to come thru the corner either nose to tail or side by =
side Betty says to Sandy "I sure am glad Charlie doesnt take this too serio=
usly and only does it for fun".=C2=A0 Sandy bit her lip and said nothing.=
=C2=A0 After the race she got Charlie off to the side and told him that he =
would "owe her forever" for not explaining to Betty just how seriously we d=
id, in fact, take it.=C2=A0=C2=A0
Ok, one more... in the paddock he blipped the throttle and it ran up more l=
ike an F1 car of the era.=C2=A0 "Charlie you POS, it's supposed to have a f=
lywheel on it!"=C2=A0 His reply "It does".... "Well it's supposed to have a=
 weight at least in two digits"...."It does!=C2=A0 Eight point five"
Dear God, there are so many more Charlie Kates stories both that weekend an=
d thru the years.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Dean via Fot=20
Sent: Sep 26, 2019 12:11 PM
To: "fot@autox.team.net"=20
Subject: [Fot] 1992 Mid Ohio


Don=E2=80=99t know if this will transfer, but this is from the race in 1992=
 carried in Vintage Motorsports Annual. I Photo

Showing Mike Jackson and Charlie Kates.

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">It was great for me to be re=
minded with many of these recollections. I knew pieces and parts, was at Mi=
d Ohio in 2002 just getting started so was fortunate enough to participate.=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" dat=
a-setdir=3D"false">But the best for me was the sharing of the conversation =
between Sandy and Betty.&nbsp; Man if only she knew!!&nbsp; <br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I knew from the beginning Charlie was all=
 in.&nbsp; If he was you know Mike was as well.&nbsp; I learned quickly of =
Charlies efforts and decided to maintain not change.&nbsp; That has paid hu=
ge dividends for me and to this day I annually reap the benefits&nbsp; and&=
nbsp; always am thankful for his commitments, efforts and engineering.</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-set=
dir=3D"false">I have had Charlies car for over 20 years and I suspect it is=
 not much different today than it was when I acquired it. That says it all =
for me.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" data-setdir=3D"false">I will be at Mid Ohio, I am expecting&nbsp; the s=
ame great fun described within this thread.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
ir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Mark<br></div=
><div><br></div>
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                    On Thursday, September 26, 2019, 2:35:24 PM EDT, Mike J=
ackson via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp823189e2yiv2778267339"><div><div style=
=3D"font-size:16px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif;"><div>=
Charlies old TR4 is now owned and extremely well driven by Mark Wheatley.&n=
bsp; It is a joy to see it every time its at the track with us.</div><div><=
br></div>I dont want to bore everyone with a hundred stories of that '92 we=
ekend.&nbsp; But, here's my favorite..<div>Charlie and I remain great frien=
ds even tho he races some Jap thingy now.&nbsp; We had been running literal=
ly door handle to door handle all weekend long and having a great time at i=
t.&nbsp; His wife Betty passed away some years ago but she and my wife Sand=
y were on the hillside at the keyhole for the "big" race that weekend.&nbsp=
; During the race as we continued to come thru the corner either nose to ta=
il or side by side Betty says to Sandy "I sure am glad Charlie doesnt take =
this too seriously and only does it for fun".&nbsp; Sandy bit her lip and s=
aid nothing.&nbsp; After the race she got Charlie off to the side and told =
him that he would "owe her forever" for not explaining to Betty just how se=
riously we did, in fact, take it.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Ok, =
one more... in the paddock he blipped the throttle and it ran up more like =
an F1 car of the era.&nbsp; "Charlie you POS, it's supposed to have a flywh=
eel on it!"&nbsp; His reply "It does".... "Well it's supposed to have a wei=
ght at least in two digits"...."It does!&nbsp; Eight point five"</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Dear God, there are so many more Charlie Kates stories both =
that weekend and thru the years.</div><div><br></div><div>Mike</div><div><b=
lockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;margin-left:0px;border-left:#0000ff 2px=
 solid;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-size:=
10pt;font-family:arial, sans-serif;color:black;">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Dean via Fot=20
<br>Sent: Sep 26, 2019 12:11 PM
<br>To: "fot@autox.team.net"=20
<br>Subject: [Fot] 1992 Mid Ohio

<br><br><div class=3D"ydp823189e2yiv2778267339WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydp=
823189e2yiv2778267339MsoNormal">Don=E2=80=99t know if this will transfer, b=
ut this is from the race in 1992 carried in Vintage Motorsports Annual. I P=
hoto</p><p class=3D"ydp823189e2yiv2778267339MsoNormal">Showing Mike Jackson=
 and Charlie Kates.</p><p class=3D"ydp823189e2yiv2778267339MsoNormal"> &nbs=
p;</p><p class=3D"ydp823189e2yiv2778267339MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"h=
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"_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=3D"ydp823189e2yiv2778267339Mso=
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