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I second the fuel pressure recommendation. =C2=A0For the $$$ I spent last y=
ear chasing what I thought was an ignition problem I could have installed t=
wo fuel pressure gauges with isolators!!! =C2=A0Not to mention the lost lap=
s in the Kastler Cup....
Phil Gott
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Drews via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2019 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT gauge installation
I've always heard that if you have a balance tube between front and rear c=
arb that you want to run in 1 and 4 so you can better isolate which carb yo=
u want to adjust. I have mine in 1 and 4 but run webers so no balance tube.=
=C2=A0 I see up to 1450 F at the end of long straights.=C2=A0 Much more tha=
n that and I start to transfer aluminum from the piston to the cylinder wal=
ls.=C2=A0 I think there's some variation in temp readings between different=
probes and gauges, I don't know what the accuracy really is. It's a great =
troubleshooting tool when the car starts to run like crap.=C2=A0 Another he=
lpful tools is a fuel pressure gauge (with isolator so you don't pipe gas i=
nto the passenger compartment).=C2=A0 Pressure too high overruns the floats=
.=C2=A0 To low and you've got something funny with the feed like a regulato=
r / pump going bad or you forgot to put gas in the car.
- Tony
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31427800 Interesting =E2=80=93 why not 1 and 4 or 2 and 3? =C2=A0 Scott (=
B.) =C2=A0 From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Rick Pare=
nt via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:20 PM
To: John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com>; Terry Stetler <tlizzard@msn.com>
Cc: Friends of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT gauge installation =C2=A0 =C2=A0 If you are=
using SU's I would use Cylinders 1 and 3 or 2 and 4. If you are using dual=
Webers I prefer the same as above but any two will do really. On Wedn=
esday, February 27, 2019, 1:00:53 AM EST, Terry Stetler via Fot <fot@autox.=
team.net> wrote: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 One and Four.=C2=A0 Typically th=
ose would run the leaner than Two and Three. =C2=A0 Terry Stetler =C2=A0 Se=
nt from Mail for Windows 10 =C2=A0 From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.=
net> on behalf of John Styduhar via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:30:15 PM
To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph
Subject: [Fot] EGT gauge installation =C2=A0 I need some tips on in=
stallation of a dual probe EGT gauge on the TR4 race engine with twin Strom=
bergs- What two cylinder to use for probes. Optimum EG temperature for =
tuning purposes. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ______=
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<font color=3D'black' size=3D'2' face=3D'arial'>I second the fuel pressure =
recommendation. For the $$$ I spent last year chasing what I thought =
was an ignition problem I could have installed two fuel pressure gauges wit=
h isolators!!! Not to mention the lost laps in the Kastler Cup....
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<div>Phil Gott<br>
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From: Tony Drews via Fot <fot@autox.team.net><br>
To: fot <fot@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2019 3:12 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT gauge installation<br>
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<div>I've always heard that if you have a balance tube between front
and rear carb that you want to run in 1 and 4 so you can better
isolate which carb you want to adjust.</div>
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<div>I have mine in 1 and 4 but run webers so no balance tube. I see
up to 1450 F at the end of long straights. Much more than that
and I start to transfer aluminum from the piston to the cylinder
walls. I think there's some variation in temp readings between
different probes and gauges, I don't know what the accuracy really
is.</div>
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<div>It's a great troubleshooting tool when the car starts to run like
crap. Another helpful tools is a fuel pressure gauge (with
isolator so you don't pipe gas into the passenger compartment).
Pressure too high overruns the floats. To low and you've got
something funny with the feed like a regulator / pump going bad or
you forgot to put gas in the car.<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>- Tony<br clear=3D"none">
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From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;"> Fot
<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv4=
131427800moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";><fot-bou=
nces@autox.team.net></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rick Parent via Fot<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:20 PM<br clear=
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<b>To:</b> John Styduhar <a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" sha=
pe=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv4131427800moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:=
johnstydo@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com";>=
<johnstydo@gmail.com></a>;
Terry Stetler <a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect"=
class=3D"yiv4131427800moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:tlizzard@ms=
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com></a><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> Friends of Triumph <a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer=
" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv4131427800moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"ma=
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t"><fot@autox.team.net></a><br clear=3D"none">
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you are using SU's I would use Cylinders 1 and 3 or 2
and 4. If you are using dual Webers I prefer the same as
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Wednesday, February 27, 2019, 1:00:53 AM EST, Terry
Stetler via Fot <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=
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Fot <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"r=
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need some tips on installation of a dual
probe EGT gauge on the TR4 race engine
with twin Strombergs-</span></div>
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