I meant to send to all.
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From: DAVE HOGYE
To: Kenneth Knight
Date: August 14, 2018 at 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Fot] Race Seat
Thanks Ken,
I also built a sturdy frame for the seat with a bracket that attaches to the
roll bar mounting point, because I read somewhere that the seat frame should
have more than floor sheet metal attachment points.
Dave H.
On August 14, 2018 at 11:57 AM Kenneth Knight wrote:
All good advice from Dave. On thing to remember in the fit is the cover, it
does take a bit of room. If you have a back that is not perfect (go figure
a Vintage car driver could have a back problem) Pegasus sells a very dense
special foam padding that can be placed under the cover. You can put it
under your bony butt and at the small of the back to cushion the shock and
pressure from the belts. It can also be used on the sides to make that fit
just perfect.
Underneath the car I have plates that tie that seat into the frame. There
are lots of ways to do this but just putting a fender washer under the
bracket bolts is NOT enough. Don't forget to tie the back of the seat to
roll bar. In an ideal situation that is a bar crossing just about the
height of your shoulder blades and this is the perfect mounting spot for the
shoulder belts and the seat brace.
Ken
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Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 8:16 AM
To: Steven Belfer via Fot; Todd Redmond; Steven Belfer
Subject: Re: [Fot] Race Seat
Good tips and suggestions, Steve.
Todd, when I installed my Kirkey Vintage seat, as Steve suggests, I placed
the seat low and wore my helmet to take some measurements. I wanted to be
below the top of my roll bar and my bar fits under the factory hard top, so
the height limit was known and set.
I also modified the seat. I needed arm length but less leg length. When I
tilted or reclined the back to a comfortable arm length, the seat bottom
reduced leg extension needed for full clutch depression. I cut the seat to
get more recline without effecting the bottom and leg position. It was an
easy modification. I made a aluminum fill plates and had them welded in
place. I also moved the steering wheel closer to the dash to give more arm
extension. I spent a lot of time getting it all perfect for me.
There are optimal leg and arm positions. Bent arms, never fully extended
and when the clutch is fully depressed, your leg should not press on the
seat bottom and impede movement, but could lightly touch. I learned this in
1982 when I bought Bob Bondurant's first book of high performance driving.
The Kirkey seats come in different widths. Get one that fits relatively
snug. Measure yourself in the seated position. If you have to you can send
it back until you get the best fit.
I thought the Vintage seat looks best without the head rest, but then you
have to build a rest into your roll bar. Of course having the head rest
extension solves this issue.
I like that the Kirkey seats have a snap-in cover and inexpensive. I also
added a little lumbar padding under the cover.
Dave H.
> On August 13, 2018 at 4:02 PM Steven Belfer via Fot
>
> wrote:
> Hi Todd,
>
> I fit a Kirkey upright seat in my TR3. I probably had it in and
> out of
>
> there 10 times and had the seat modified a bunch of times to get it
> right.
I also had the cage re-worked to fit the seat and and give me protection on
the left-side. I had the Kirkey seat-cover modified at an upholstery shop
to fit the changed seat. I also added some custom foam lumbar-support
pieces to the seat cover. The trick is to get the seat as low as possible
in the car, then lean it back just right for your comfort. Test it while
wearing your helmet and Hans device.
> ~STEVE
>
> > > On Aug 13, 2018, at 6:05 AM, Todd Redmond via Fot
> >
> > >
> wrote:
>
> > > Friends!
> >
> >
> > I'm looking for recommendations for a race seat for the TR3.
> > What are you using?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Todd Redmond
> > 1958 TR3a
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