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Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive
From: YNOTINK at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 03:36:18 +0000
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I've heard of the overdrive failing to disengage due to the clutch lining 
sticking to the brake ring. I'm not sure why that would happen other than 
excessive wear on one or the other or possibly the use of the wrong lubricant. 
the solution as I recall was to tap the brake ring with a hammer from under the 
car. The danger is that you would not Know it had not disengaged and try to 
drive in reverse. If I were afraid this might be happening to my car I would 
engage the overdrive while it was running and then stop the engine and, placing 
it in reverse gear, try gently rocking the car backwards. If there's no 
resistance from the drivetrain you are golden. otherwise you need to pull the 
OD and find out what is causing the problem. The best protection is to come out 
of OD while you are still moving in a forward gear and to be constantly aware 
that the OD is actually disengaging as it should.


Bill Lawrence

BN1 #554

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of BJ8Healeys 
<sbyers at ec.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:42:20 PM
To: 'healeys'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive

It is the oil pressure that actually makes the overdrive engage, and lack of 
oil pressure causes disengagement because the overdrive sliding clutch moves 
back under spring pressure when the oil pressure is removed.  Theoretically, 
you could add a pressure switch to sense the overdrive oil pressure and use 
that to drive the warning light.  But practically, I think it would be 
difficult.  The only place available to mount such a switch is to replace the 
plug above the overdrive metering pin, so the switch would have to accommodate 
that location.

The first modification I ever did to my BJ8 was to add an overdrive warning 
switch.  I didn't know anything about the overdrive, except that all the books 
said never to reverse the car with overdrive engaged.  I found myself 
constantly doing that with the dash switch still selected to overdrive, but 
wasn't aware that the gearshift switch was disengaging the overdrive as it was 
supposed to do.
Anyway, I installed a red warning light above the ODRIVE/NORMAL switch to 
remind me to turn that switch off before reversing the car.  It has been doing 
its job well for 33 years now.  It illuminates when the dash switch is selected 
O/DRIVE, so it doesn't tell me the overdrive is disengaged when turned off; but 
I did discover a couple other useful functions of the switch:
The light stays on when turned off, until I press on the accelerator, then it 
goes out.  That tells me the overdrive throttle switch is adjusted properly.
It also helps to troubleshoot problems with the overdrive upstream of the 
light.  I once noticed that the overdrive suddenly wasn't engaging, and the 
warning light was not on -- although the dash switch was in O/DRIVE.  That told 
me that the problem was electrical, not hydraulic.  I found that the input 
terminal of the dash switch had broken off and was still in the wire connector.

Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC


From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fred 
Wescoe
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 12:46 PM
To: healeys
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive

List,

Having just had the transmission and overdrive rebuilt, I am gun shy.  I have 
never had a problem previously with an overdrive disengaging when it is 
switched off and I moved the shifter thru neutral and into 2nd.  But, 
apparently that was the case before I purchased the car and I did not realize 
it.  The overdrive appeared to work properly but in fact, it was not releasing 
when it was turned off and that caused the problem.  I am thinking about adding 
a warning light that indicates the overdrive is still engaged even if the 
switch is off and I'm trying to figure out how to accomplish this.

I believe that a light in the power line with solenoid simply means that the 
solenoid is off but not that the overdrive is disengaged.  The same is true 
with all of the other switches.

What is the wisdom of the list on how best to do this.  How can a warning light 
be installed properly?

Thanks,

Fred
66 BJ8

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