What's with the brakes when the pedal is very hard and the brake shoes have
very little pressure against the drums?Mike MacLean
On Friday, January 27, 2017 6:47 PM, John and Judy Carter <jc9821 at
msn.com> wrote:
<!--#yiv2747031067 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}-->After bleeding brakes
and car sits for a time the brake pedal is soft again. You can pump it up to a
firm pedal but it is soft again at the next application. This occurs whether
you are driving the car or not(brake booster is fairly new). I cannot find any
leaks and the reservoir stays full(silicone fluid).
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?? 2. Re: Ethanol (Michael Salter)
?? 3. Re: Ethanol (Richard J. Hockert)
?? 4. Re: Ethanol (Oudesluys)
?? 5. Re: Non Healey: Anyone looking for a project MG TD?
????? (Charlie Baldwin)
?? 6. DASH TOP REPAIR/ REPLACEMENT ? (Jim Lyons)
?? 7. Re: Ethanol (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=)
?? 8. Re: Ethanol (Mirek Sharp)
?? 9. Re: DASH TOP REPAIR/ REPLACEMENT ? (Jean Caron)
? 10. Re: Ethanol (Richard Collins)
? 11. Re: Ethanol (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
? 12. Re: Ethanol (John Spaur)
? 13. Re: Ethanol (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
? 14. Re: DASH TOP REPAIR/ REPLACEMENT ? (Derek Job)
? 15. Re: Ethanol (Oudesluys)
? 16. Re: Ethanol (Oudesluys)
? 17. Re: Ethanol (Bob Haskell)
? 18. Re: DASH TOP REPAIR/ REPLACEMENT ? (i erbs)
? 19. Re: Ethanol (Bob Spidell)
? 20. Re: Ethanol (Bob Spidell)
? 21. Re: Ethanol (Bob Spidell)
? 22. Re: Ethanol (Bob Spidell)
? 23. BJ-8 rear end housing (Wayne)
? 24. Re: Ethanol (randyalkins)
? 25. Re: Ethanol (David Nock)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 11:06:15 -0800
From: i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com>
To: Simon Lachlan <simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk>
Cc: Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Message-ID:
??????? <CABXhz88HE5buG6Jjb4QjeZSaz5fKYPzAS3kUDgTrOrDc4DmeAg at mail.gmail.com>
eats rubber parts: hoses, carb diaphragms, and fuel pump innards. Replace
all fuel line hoses with ethanol tolerant hoses.
Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
????? _______????????????????????????????????? _______
???? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
???????? (_________________________)
????????? BT7 engine and disk brakes
A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Simon Lachlan <simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk
> wrote:
> It seems that the UK is to be blessed with this stuff. I?ve been asked for
> my thoughts on the topic and, as I know nothing about it, I?m looking for
> advice.
>
> See attached.
>
> What are your experiences? And what are the ?dos and don?ts??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:20:56 -0500
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
To: Randy Alkins <randyalkins at gmail.com>,? "healeys at autox.team.net"
??????? <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Message-ID:
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*I doubt many if any cars in UK are E85 compliant.? All fuel lines made
prior to 1995 in US were NOT ethanol ready and will fall apart readily.*Hi
Randy,
Your note has raised a very interesting question.
Have you had any experience with original Petroflex hoses failing due to
ethanol?
We have been subjected to ethanol for many years now and I cannot recall
even one incidence of a Petroflex failure that I could attribute to it.
My own 100 has an original
? NOS?
Smiths Petroflex hose joining the main fuel line to the carb fuel pipe and
although it has only been on the road for 2 years since restoration I have
not seen any signs of failure and the hose is still very flexible.
?I do know that if you subject a Petroflex hose to "Varsol" ?cleaning fluid
it deteriorates rapidly and that should definitely be avoided at all costs.
Would appreciate your thoughts.
Michael S
*?*
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:36:42 -0600
From: "Richard J. Hockert" <rjhco at att.net>
To: "'David Nock BCS'" <healeydoc at sbcglobal.net>, "'Simon Lachlan'"
??????? <simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk>, "'Healey List'"
??????? <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
The correct AFR for alcohol (ethanol) is around 8 to 1 versus gasoline at 14.7
to 1.? Switching to 10% ethanol should equate to about a 5% richer mixture.?
Ethanol produces more power than gasoline ? hence alcohol race engines but much
more fuel required.? Your mileage will suffer.
?
Best regards,
Jim
?
?
?
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David
Nock BCS
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:49 PM
To: Simon Lachlan; 'Healey List'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
?
The issues with the Ethanol will depend on the percentage of Ethanol they will
be putting in. Here in California most of the Ethanol is 10%. However they are
talking about raising that and if they do we will start having real problems.
The most common issues we run into are . Overheating and miss fires under heavy
load due to lean mixtures. Especially worse on the Tri Carb.
This can usually be cured by installing the Rich needles.
?
The other issues are lack of power and lower gas mileage.
?
?
David Nock
British Car Specialists
209-948-8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com
?
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:03 AM
Subject: [Healeys] Ethanol
?
It seems that the UK is to be blessed with this stuff. I?ve been asked for my
thoughts on the topic and, as I know nothing about it, I?m looking for advice.
See attached.
What are your experiences? And what are the ?dos and don?ts??
Thanks,
Simon
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 23:59:22 +0100
From: Oudesluys <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
It is not likely you will encounter real problems as you have presumably
used E85 for years. This usually contains about 5% ethanol, sometimes
considerably more. So you have already changed most if not all rubber
parts with modern items that are ethanol resistant. If you still have
original rubber parts e.g. hoses, replace them. It is unbelievable that
some people still have original fuel hoses, brake hoses etc. fitted.
They should have been replaced a very long time ago. Very risky.
There are claims it can corrode aluminium alloy parts in the carbs and
fuel pump, but I still have to see proper physical evidence of this.
Pumps and carbs that have been exposed to ethanol containing petrol for
donkeys years are mostly still absolutely clean. If the petrol is
contaminated with water or if the carbs/pumps have been dry for years
you may see some sediment or corrosion, but this is rare.
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 26-1-2017 om 20:06 schreef i erbs:
> eats rubber parts: hoses, carb diaphragms, and fuel pump innards.
> Replace all fuel line hoses with ethanol tolerant hoses.
>
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
>?????? _______????????????????? _______
>????? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
> (_________________________)
>?????????? BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Simon Lachlan
> wrote:
>
>???? It seems that the UK is to be blessed with this stuff. I?ve been
>???? asked for my thoughts on the topic and, as I know nothing about
>???? it, I?m looking for advice.
>
>???? See attached.
>
>???? What are your experiences? And what are the ?dos and don?ts??
>
>???? Thanks,
>
>???? Simon
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:03:33 -0500
From: Charlie Baldwin <mgcharlie at comcast.net>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Non Healey: Anyone looking for a project MG TD?
Way too much money.? It would be a worthwhile investment at half that.
On 1/26/2017 1:12 PM, mike brouillette wrote:
>
> Just saw this on Ebay.? If anyone is looking for a 1950 MG TD project,
> this could be a good start with a buy it now at $7500.
>
> No interest?
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/272532817015?
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of
> *i erbs
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:54 PM
> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Home built GTO Tribute
>
> https://youtu.be/hzNQUPR73Hw
>
> Guy built himself a fararri GTO... Hard to imagine what the bits he
> had to buy cost
>
> Ira Erbs
>
> Portland,OR
>
>?????? _______? _______
>????? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
> (_________________________)
>
>?????????? BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
>
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:23:27 -0500
From: "Jim Lyons" <jlyons4 at rochester.rr.com>
To: <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] DASH TOP REPAIR/ REPLACEMENT ?
Hello All,
I am looking to replace or repair the DASH TOP on my 1966 BJ8. I?m looking for
recommendations for vendors who can supply? the material that is closest to the
original vinyl ?leathercloth?.
I see that MOSS does offer a DASH TOP, PADDED, BLACK ( pt # 633-850 ) for
$203.? Does anyone sell a kit with just the material ?
Thanks,
Jim
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:43:41 -0800
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=" <steveg at abrazosdata.com>
To: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
IMO:
Ethanol is a boondoggle for farmers. It takes more energy to produce than it
saves.
--
Steve Gerow
Altadena, CA
BN6
Maker of most complete Big Healey rear disc kit
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 21:10:29 -0500
From: "Mirek Sharp" <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>
To: "'Simon Lachlan'" <simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk>, "'Healey List'"
??????? <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Simon, we have been subjected to ethanol for some years here in Canada and
confess I did absolutely nothing to my '59 BT7 to adjust to it.? I rebuilt
the carbs 3 years ago, but prior to that, they had whatever parts I fitted
when I previously serviced them, probably 15-20 years ago.? I don't thrash
the car, and driving normally I noticed no difference in power, and since it
is not my regular driver for work etc., I have never bothered much about
fuel consumption (would it influence how much? drive it?- No!).? I can't
even recall when I last serviced the fuel pump, it must be at least 25 -30
years ago, perhaps not since I put a new one in around 1975, just after I
bought the car.? I expect it would affect timing but I always fine-adjust
this with the Vernier on the distributor after static setting per usual
practice and I get no pinging.? Being in Canada, the car is not driven
during the salt season from around late November to late March(-ish). I
don't top up or drain the tank, or add any fuel stabilizers, and it starts
up and runs just fine in the spring (except for needing a boost some years).
?
My advice is just drive it, and if something breaks, THEN fix it.
?
To be clear, I not saying the ethanol has no effect, it plays havoc with the
carburation on my vintage motorcycles, which are air-cooled and much less
forgiving when burn-rate and combustion temperature are changed with the
ethanol.? I just think the Healeys, the 3000s at least, can cope with the
changes more easily.? The only other big effect I noticed is that it is
attacking the lining I put in one of my BSA fuel tanks, and I will have to
clean that out soon before completely breaks down (the solvent is
methyl-ethyl ketone - I can't wait!).
Good luck with it,
Mirek
?
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Simon
Lachlan
Sent: January-26-17 12:04 PM
To: 'Healey List'
Subject: [Healeys] Ethanol
?
It seems that the UK is to be blessed with this stuff. I've been asked for
my thoughts on the topic and, as I know nothing about it, I'm looking for
advice.
See attached.
What are your experiences? And what are the "dos and don'ts"?
Thanks,
Simon
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 04:12:33 +0000
From: Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com>
To: Jim Lyons <jlyons4 at rochester.rr.com>, "Healeys at autox.team.net"
??????? <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] DASH TOP REPAIR/ REPLACEMENT ?
Message-ID:
??????? <BLUPR19MB02122DFF07147A5E032FCA64D1760 at
BLUPR19MB0212.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
???????
Jim,
John Skinner in the UK sells it, good to deal with , reasonably priced. I am
sure there are others too in the US.
www.john.skinner.co.uk<http://www.john.skinner.co.uk>
Jean
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Jim Lyons
<jlyons4 at rochester.rr.com>
Sent: January 27, 2017 1:23 AM
To: Healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] DASH TOP REPAIR/ REPLACEMENT ?
Hello All,
I am looking to replace or repair the DASH TOP on my 1966 BJ8. I'm looking for
recommendations for vendors who can supply? the material that is closest to the
original vinyl "leathercloth".
I see that MOSS does offer a DASH TOP, PADDED, BLACK ( pt # 633-850 ) for
$203.? Does anyone sell a kit with just the material ?
Thanks,
Jim
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 05:06:02 +0000
From: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com>
To: "Steve B. Gerow" <steveg at abrazosdata.com>
Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Message-ID:
??????? <BLUPR19MB02768595D114329AC42AFB3EBF760 at
BLUPR19MB0276.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
???????
I get a solid 12% LESS miles on Calif 91 octane (highest available) than I do
here in KY with 93 octane (highest available) But I am seeing more 10% Ethanol
fuel in KY than in previous years. But we have many ethanol free offerings in
the area.
Had to change fuel line on Healey recently when it began leaking from
splits/disintegration. I smelled it before I found it. Nearly a fire risk.
Regards,
Richard Of KY
BN7 #440
> On Jan 26, 2017, at 9:26 PM, Steve B. Gerow <steveg at abrazosdata.com> wrote:
>
> IMO:
> Ethanol is a boondoggle for farmers. It takes more energy to produce than it
> saves.
>
> --
> Steve Gerow
> Altadena, CA
> BN6
>
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 07:07:02 +0100 (MET)
From: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
To: Oudesluys <coudesluijs at chello.nl>,? "Healeys,? Forum"
??????? <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Message-ID:
??????? <1485497222007.6248468.9f7d93919ffb3ba7849f922f045ff06a5fb1a9ee at
spica.telekom.de>
???????
Here in Europe most Austin-Healeys (95%+) were completely restored with new
parts, lines, hoses, fitted. I only know one or two cars out of 100 which
only got a tidying up since they were built. So extremely rare.
I have many friends who use E10 (95 Octane) in their classic cars without
any problems. My Austin-Healeys need 98+ Octane, so I stay with the premium
fuels from Shell (V-Power (101 Octane), or ARAL Ultimate (103 Octane).
These premium fuels, or the Super Plus (98 Octane) contain below 5%
Ethanol. So I haven?t faced any problems.
I would have some problems using E10 (95 Octane), as it would cause
after-run of the engines, which are eliminated with higher octane fuels.
?
Josef Eckert
K?nigswinter/Germany
?
?
?
?
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Datum: 2017-01-27T02:15:07+0100
Von: "Oudesluys" <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
An: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
?
?
?
It is not likely you will encounter real problems as you have presumably
used E85 for years. This usually contains about 5% ethanol, sometimes
considerably more. So you have already changed most if not all rubber parts
with modern items that are ethanol resistant. If you still have original
rubber parts e.g. hoses, replace them. It is unbelievable that some people
still have original fuel hoses, brake hoses etc. fitted. They should have
been replaced a very long time ago. Very risky.
There are claims it can corrode aluminium alloy parts in the carbs and fuel
pump, but I still have to see proper physical evidence of this. Pumps and
carbs that have been exposed to ethanol containing petrol for donkeys years
are mostly still absolutely clean. If the petrol is contaminated with water
or if the carbs/pumps have been dry for years you may see some sediment or
corrosion, but this is rare.
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 26-1-2017 om 20:06 schreef i erbs:
??? eats rubber parts: hoses, carb diaphragms, and fuel pump innards.
??? Replace all fuel line hoses with ethanol tolerant hoses.??
??? Ira Erbs
??? Portland,OR
????????? _______????????????????????????????????? _______
???????? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
???????????? (_________________________)
????????????? BT7 engine and disk brakes
????
??? A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
??? Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
??? On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Simon Lachlan <
??? wrote:
??????? It seems that the UK is to be blessed with this stuff. I?ve been
??????? asked for my thoughts on the topic and, as I know nothing about it,
??????? I?m looking for advice.
??????? See attached.
??????? What are your experiences? And what are the ?dos and don?ts??
??????? Thanks,
??????? Simon
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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:54:48 -0800
From: "John Spaur" <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
To: <josef-eckert at t-online.de>, "'Oudesluys'" <coudesluijs at chello.nl>,
??????? "'Healeys,? Forum'" <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Wish I could get 93 octane let alone 95 or 98!
?
John
San Jose, CA
?
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
josef-eckert at t-online.de
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 10:07 PM
To: Oudesluys <coudesluijs at chello.nl>; Healeys, Forum <Healeys at
autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
?
?I have many friends who use E10 (95 Octane) in their classic cars without any
problems. My Austin-Healeys need 98+ Octane,?
Josef Eckert
K?nigswinter/Germany
?
?
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 07:59:51 +0100 (MET)
From: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
To: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>,? "Healeys,? Forum"
??????? <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Message-ID:
??????? <1485500391228.6130407.3568cfdf787e44368a8b41d97a311d79d249f1fa at
spica.telekom.de>
???????
John,
as far as I know 95 grade "European Octane" is comparable with 91 grade
"American Octane". Don?t know the reason for that, as I never went into it
further. I.E. Afgas for plane engines is about 103 Octane Europe.
?
Josef Eckert
K?nigswinter/Germany
?
?
?
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: RE: [Healeys] Ethanol
Datum: 2017-01-27T07:54:53+0100
Von: "John Spaur" <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>, "'Oudesluys'"
<coudesluijs at chello.nl>, "'Healeys, Forum'" <Healeys at autox.team.net>
?
?
?
Wish I could get 93 octane let alone 95 or 98!
?
John
San Jose, CA
?
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
josef-eckert at t-online.de
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 10:07 PM
To: Oudesluys <coudesluijs at chello.nl>; Healeys, Forum
<Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
?
?I have many friends who use E10 (95 Octane) in their classic cars without
any problems. My Austin-Healeys need 98+ Octane,?
Josef Eckert
K?nigswinter/Germany
?
?
?
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 07:58:38 +0000
From: Derek Job <derek.c.job at gmail.com>
To: Jim Lyons <jlyons4 at rochester.rr.com>
Cc: Forum <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] DASH TOP REPAIR/ REPLACEMENT ?
Message-ID:
??????? <CAAh8etki=WSNedCaT+d8bALQG13Lwdye=v4pq+i6JMseY8eYbQ at mail.gmail.com>
AH Spares sell the leather cloth by the metre.
Derek
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 1:23 AM, Jim Lyons <jlyons4 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> Hello All,
> I am looking to replace or repair the DASH TOP on my 1966 BJ8. I?m looking
> for recommendations for vendors who can supply? the material that is
> closest to the original vinyl ?leathercloth?.
> I see that MOSS does offer a DASH TOP, PADDED, BLACK ( pt # 633-850 ) for
> $203.? Does anyone sell a kit with just the material ?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
>
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 10:44:27 +0100
From: Oudesluys <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
In Europe there was often a substantial amount of ethanol in post war
petrol wel into the '60's. Petrol was not of the best quality and
ethanol was used as an octane booster. Not many problems at the time.
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 26-1-2017 om 21:20 schreef Michael Salter:
> /I doubt many if any cars in UK are E85 compliant.? All fuel lines
> made prior to 1995 in US were NOT ethanol ready and will fall apart
> readily.
>
> /Hi Randy,
> Your note has raised a very interesting question.
> Have you had any experience with original Petroflex hoses failing due
> to ethanol?
> We have been subjected to ethanol for many years now and I cannot
> recall even one incidence of a Petroflex failure that I could
> attribute to it.
> My own 100 has an original
> ? NOS?
> Smiths Petroflex hose joining the main fuel line to the carb fuel pipe
> and although it has only been on the road for 2 years since
> restoration I have not seen any signs of failure and the hose is still
> very flexible.
> ?I do know that if you subject a Petroflex hose to "Varsol" ?cleaning
> fluid it deteriorates rapidly and that should definitely be avoided at
> all costs.
> Would appreciate your thoughts.
>
> Michael S
>
>
>
>
>
> /?/
> ?
>
>
>
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:25:03 +0100
From: Oudesluys <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Op 26-1-2017 om 23:59 schreef Oudesluys:
> It is not likely you will encounter real problems as you have
> presumably used E85 for years
Should of course be E95
Kees Oudesluijs
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 08:33:12 -0500
From: Bob Haskell <rchaskell at earthlink.net>
To: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>, John Spaur
??????? <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>, "Healeys, Forum" <Healeys at
autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
John and Josef,
There are two methods for measuring octane rating - motoring and
research.? The average of the two is used in the US.? The higher
research octane number is used in Europe.
Cheers,
Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar
http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php
On 01/27/2017 01:59 AM, josef-eckert at t-online.de wrote:
> John,
>
> as far as I know 95 grade "European Octane" is comparable with 91 grade
> "American Octane". Don?t know the reason for that, as I never went into
> it further. I.E. Afgas for plane engines is about 103 Octane Europe.
>
> Josef Eckert
>
> K?nigswinter/Germany
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: RE: [Healeys] Ethanol
>
> Datum: 2017-01-27T07:54:53+0100
>
> Von: "John Spaur" <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
>
> An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>, "'Oudesluys'"
> <coudesluijs at chello.nl>, "'Healeys, Forum'" <Healeys at autox.team.net>
>
> Wish I could get 93 octane let alone 95 or 98!
>
> John
>
> San Jose, CA
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of
> *josef-eckert at t-online.de
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2017 10:07 PM
> *To:* Oudesluys <coudesluijs at chello.nl>; Healeys, Forum
> <Healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
>
> ?I have many friends who use E10 (95 Octane) in their classic cars
> without any problems. My Austin-Healeys need 98+ Octane,?
>
> Josef Eckert
>
> K?nigswinter/Germany
>
> ?
>
>
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 06:05:03 -0800
From: i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com>
To: Jim Lyons <jlyons4 at rochester.rr.com>
Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] DASH TOP REPAIR/ REPLACEMENT ?
Message-ID:
??????? <CABXhz8-H7yuJvao2Tf0UnRuAEaW5O55h6=0o-b=taMZGTL4goQ at mail.gmail.com>
Mods sells material by the yard
Ira Erbs
1959 100-6
MKI engine and disc brakes
Portland,OR
On Jan 26, 2017 6:52 PM, "Jim Lyons" <jlyons4 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> Hello All,
> I am looking to replace or repair the DASH TOP on my 1966 BJ8. I?m looking
> for recommendations for vendors who can supply? the material that is
> closest to the original vinyl ?leathercloth?.
> I see that MOSS does offer a DASH TOP, PADDED, BLACK ( pt # 633-850 ) for
> $203.? Does anyone sell a kit with just the material ?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 14:14:30 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Message-ID:
??????? <1341990277.104838709.1485526470549.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net>
My BJ8 has had a Petroflex line in it for 100K+ miles and 25+ years and hasn't
had a problem. It does feel a little stiff and since I'm doing an overhaul I've
bought a replacement (watch it crap out in 3 months ;).
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
To: "Randy Alkins" <randyalkins at gmail.com>, "healeys" <healeys at
autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:20:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
I doubt many if any cars in UK are E85 compliant. All fuel lines made prior to
1995 in US were NOT ethanol ready and will fall apart readily.
Hi Randy,
Your note has raised a very interesting question.
Have you had any experience with original Petroflex hoses failing due to
ethanol?
We have been subjected to ethanol for many years now and I cannot recall even
one incidence of a Petroflex failure that I could attribute to it.
My own 100 has an original
? NOS?
Smiths Petroflex hose joining the main fuel line to the carb fuel pipe and
although it has only been on the road for 2 years since restoration I have not
seen any signs of failure and the hose is still very flexible.
?I do know that if you subject a Petroflex hose to "Varsol" ?cleaning fluid it
deteriorates rapidly and that should definitely be avoided at all costs.
Would appreciate your thoughts.
Michael S
?
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 14:20:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
To: "Richard J. Hockert" <rjhco at att.net>
Cc: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Message-ID:
??????? <528184118.104844061.1485526802079.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net>
Ethanol has a much lower energy content than gasoline, hence the lower mileage
with gasahol. See here:
http://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/fuel_comparison_chart.pdf
('alternate fuels,' not 'alternate facts')
It does, however, have a higher octane rating allowing the huge compression
ratios in dragsters and other racers; which is what produces the massive power
in those engines.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard J. Hockert" <rjhco at att.net>
To: "David Nock BCS" <healeydoc at sbcglobal.net>, "Simon Lachlan"
<simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk>, "Healey List" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:36:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
The correct AFR for alcohol (ethanol) is around 8 to 1 versus gasoline at 14.7
to 1. Switching to 10% ethanol should equate to about a 5% richer mixture.
Ethanol produces more power than gasoline ? hence alcohol race engines but much
more fuel required. Your mileage will suffer.
Best regards,
Jim
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 15:36:53 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
To: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Message-ID:
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I believe the European octane ratings are Research Method only, which reads 3-5
points higher than US (R+M)/2. So, European 98 octane would be equivalent to US
93 octane (rare, but available in some areas in the States; 100-octane is
available for boat engines around Havasu).
Contrary to popular belief, ethanol can actually raise octane. There's a gas
station in Los Altos that used to sell 95-octane, which was E10 IIRC. It's very
difficult to raise the octane rating of pure gas--it requires special
refining--that's why TEL was added starting around WWII for high-compression
fighter engines (it was 'discovered' at the Sloan-Kettering institute, who
tested several thousand compounds before settling on TEL). Adding ethanol to
gasoline means the gas part doesn't have to be as carefully refined (hence
'cheaper'). There is an exhaustive research program being undertaken in order
to develop an aviation fuel to replace 100LL--100-octane, 'low-lead,' which I
believe is 'only' 2 grams/gallon of elemental lead vs. 3 grams/gallon of
previous formulations--and it is proceeding very slowly due to its complexity.
I've run tanks of E10 and tanks of pure gas, and didn't notice any significant
variance in mileage, but it's usually an 'oranges-to-apples' comparison since
most runs involve a mix of highway/freeway and grades, stop-and-go, etc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Spaur" <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
To: josef-eckert at t-online.de, "Oudesluys" <coudesluijs at chello.nl>,
"Forum' 'Healeys" <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 10:54:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Wish I could get 93 octane let alone 95 or 98!
John
San Jose, CA
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 15:43:12 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
To: Oudesluys <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
Cc: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Message-ID:
??????? <532867142.104914937.1485531792988.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net>
OK, now I be confused. In the States, E10 is 10% ethanol, E85 is 85% ethanol,
so E95 would be 95% ethanol. Is that correct?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oudesluys" <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
To: "healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 4:25:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Op 26-1-2017 om 23:59 schreef Oudesluys:
> It is not likely you will encounter real problems as you have
> presumably used E85 for years
Should of course be E95
Kees Oudesluijs
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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 11:04:04 -0500
From: Wayne <waschu2 at gmail.com>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] BJ-8 rear end housing
Hello,
??????????? My rear end housing is bent and I may need a replacement. I
would be interested in a complete assembly or just the housing itself. I
discovered the problem when I had difficulty removing the rear axles,
and once they are out they bind on the hub studs preventing reassembly.?
I will pull the differential today and install the axles to see how bad
the misalignment is. I am located in CT.
Wayne
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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 12:04:54 -0500
From: randyalkins <randyalkins at gmail.com>
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>, Oudesluys
??????? <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
Cc: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Have not heard of 95. There is talk of e15 which will be bad for all. 10 was
bad. And some warranties will be denied by engine maufacturers if it goes to 15
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device-------- Original message --------From: Bob
Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> Date: 1/27/2017? 10:43 AM? (GMT-05:00) To:
Oudesluys <coudesluijs at chello.nl> Cc: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
OK, now I be confused.? In the States, E10 is 10% ethanol, E85 is 85% ethanol,
so E95 would be 95% ethanol.? Is that correct?
From: "Oudesluys" <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
To: "healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 4:25:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Op 26-1-2017 om 23:59 schreef Oudesluys:
> It is not likely you will encounter real problems as you have
> presumably used E85 for years
Should of course be E95
Kees Oudesluijs
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Message: 25
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 10:54:38 -0800
From: "David Nock" <healeydoc at gmail.com>
To: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>, "Oudesluys"
??????? <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
Cc: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Check out this report/ road test of a comparison of E85 to Gas.
https://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/e85-vs-gasoline-comparison-test.html
Here at the shop we have been dealing with this problem for a long time with a
lot of cars. And found the same problems with all of them, some worse than
others.
Overheating due the removal of the gas and addition of the Ethanol. The Ethanol
burns hotter which reduces emissions. This causes older cars to run hotter.
Lower gas mileage and lower performance
Miss fires and? Lack of power due to the leaner mixture. The is especially
worse on a Tri Carb Healey, the rear carb will lean out on a long hard run at a
steady hight rpm.
Also Ethanol has a very strong cleaning ability, So if you start using Ethanol
in a older gas tank or a tank that has been sitting for while that has a lot of
varnish build up. The Ethanol will go about its cleaning ability and clean up
all that varnish in the tank and deposit it in the carburettors.
I know that there are lots of those out there that have all the techy stuff.
But I go by what I have learned by over 40 year of working on all British cars
and lots of them.
The bottom line with 10 % Ethanol your Vintage car will run hotter, get worse
fuel economy and may experience miss fires under heavy acceleration.
David Nock
healeydoc at sbcglobal.net
209 948 8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com
From: Bob Spidell
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 7:43 AM
To: Oudesluys
Cc: healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
OK, now I be confused.? In the States, E10 is 10% ethanol, E85 is 85% ethanol,
so E95 would be 95% ethanol.? Is that correct?
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From: "Oudesluys" <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
To: "healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 4:25:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ethanol
Op 26-1-2017 om 23:59 schreef Oudesluys:
> It is not likely you will encounter real problems as you have
> presumably used E85 for years
Should of course be E95
Kees Oudesluijs
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