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I had the same problem in my TR3 racer. I corrected the lean condition by
installing a stronger damper spring in the carb and oil in the piston. This
created more vacuum in the throat of the carb at the higher revs and caused
more fuel to be drawn through the jet via the venturi effect. Choking the
carb does basically the same thing.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Mike Harmuth <ofracer@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm tracking down a problem with the Spit race car (1296 Small Journal,
> 12;1 compression, APT TR74 cam 295 duration and 0.324 lob lift, head ported
> as per Kas's book). Rebuilt European SU HS4 carb setup with AAA needles
> (manifold and carbs checked for vacuum leaks), Advanced Distributor for
> spark (34 degrees at full, mechanical only, advance @ 3.5K RPM)
>
> The problem I have has followed me on two different short blocks, I can
> easily pull 7500RPM in 1st-3rd ( Close ratio TR7 gearing in a Spitfire
> case, 4th gear is 1;1, 4:11 locked diff ) gears. In 4th I'm struggling to
> get over 6K, no matter how long the straight. Just before the last race of
> the season, I installed an air fuel ratio gauge on the header (stahl) and
> found out I'm running (progressively) very lean (19:1) in 4th over 5K. At
> 2K I adjusted it rich, to 12;1 and it keeps in the 13.5- 14.5 range until I
> get over 5K when it really leans out. If I pull the choke to 1/2 full over
> 5K, I get a good ratio again, 13.5- 14%.
>
> To me that seemed like the carb pistons aren't pulling all the way up so I
> drilled and tapped the manifold to get a vacuum reading. It was steady but
> low at 6K, ~20 Inches but would jump to ~28 briefly as the revs dropped if
> I blipped the throttle. Under 6K, it was in the 15 inch range. Normal air
> filters are K&N with stub stacks but I get the same results with open carbs.
>
> Am I correct in assuming that the vacuum is too low or is it that due to
> overlap with a performance cam? Any ideas on where to look to get the ratio
> "normal" at higher revs? Fuel pump is Holley Red, adjusted to 3 PSI at the
> engine compartment and steady through all revs.
>
> I have dyno time scheduled in a few weeks but I'd like to use that time to
> tune not debug things.
>
> thanks
> mike h
> 63 spitfire
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I h=
ad the same problem in my TR3 racer. I corrected the lean condition by inst=
alling a stronger damper spring in the carb and oil in the piston. This cre=
ated more vacuum in the throat of the carb at the higher revs and caused mo=
re fuel to be drawn through the jet via the venturi effect.=C2=A0 Choking t=
he carb does basically the same thing.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Mike Harm=
uth <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:ofracer@gmail.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank">ofracer@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>I'm tracking down a=
problem with the Spit race car (1296 Small Journal, 12;1 compression, APT =
TR74 cam 295 duration and 0.324 lob lift, head ported as per Kas's book=
). Rebuilt European SU HS4 carb setup with AAA needles (manifold and carbs =
checked for vacuum leaks), Advanced Distributor for spark (34 degrees at fu=
ll, mechanical only, advance @ 3.5K RPM)<br><br></div>The problem I have ha=
s followed me on two different short blocks, I can easily pull 7500RPM in 1=
st-3rd ( Close ratio TR7 gearing in a Spitfire case, 4th gear is 1;1,=C2=A0=
4:11 locked diff ) gears. In 4th I'm struggling to get over 6K, no mat=
ter how long the straight. Just before the last race of the season, I insta=
lled an air fuel ratio gauge on the header (stahl) and found out I'm ru=
nning (progressively)=C2=A0 very lean (19:1) in 4th over 5K. At 2K I adjust=
ed it rich, to 12;1 and it keeps in the 13.5- 14.5 range until I get over 5=
K when it really leans out. If I pull the choke to 1/2=C2=A0 full over 5K, =
I get a good ratio again, 13.5- 14%. <br><br>To me that seemed like the car=
b pistons aren't pulling all the way up so I drilled and tapped the man=
ifold to get a vacuum reading. It was steady but low at 6K, ~20 Inches but =
would jump to ~28 briefly as the revs dropped if I blipped the throttle. Un=
der 6K, it was in the 15 inch range. Normal air filters are K&N with st=
ub stacks but I get the same results with open carbs.<br><br></div>Am I cor=
rect in assuming that the vacuum is too low or is it that due to overlap wi=
th a performance cam? Any ideas on where to look to get the ratio "nor=
mal" at higher revs? Fuel pump is Holley Red, adjusted to 3 PSI at the=
engine compartment and steady through all revs.<br><br></div>I have dyno t=
ime scheduled in a few weeks but I'd like to use that time to tune not =
debug things.<br><br></div>thanks<br></div>mike h<br></div>63 spitfire<br><=
/div>
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