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Jason
If it hasn't got Timken on it? It's not Timken.=20
If they won't replace it? They know it's not the real thing!
> On 1 Oct. 2016, at 12:21 am, Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Aaron,
> Funny you should mention this, as I'm currently going round and round=
with RockAuto. I ordered 6 of the Timken bearings (15123) - 5 of them look=
legit, but one of them is clearly different. Although the box appears iden=
tical, the bearing came wrapped in plastic differently, doesn't actually say=
"Timken"; only says "China", and feels awful loose compared to the other 5.=
Rockauto tells me that this is still a true Timken bearing. It's obvious t=
hat it's not, but I may just have to write this one off as they won't replac=
e it. Glad I purchased extras.
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> May not be a true "counterfeit" bearing, might be a case of a dishonest cu=
stomer return that was placed back in stock.=20
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> Jason
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>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Aaron Johnson <hpspitfire@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
>> How did you order the bearings? There is a huge counterfit bearing man=
ufacturing market. I have lost count how many times over the last 6 years I=
've had to investigate them. The last set of ball bearings I bought were sk=
f but we're obviously not legitimate. I took it with me to skf on a visit a=
nd confirmed it was not made in any of their factories. =20
>>=20
>> If you've got concerns of counterfit bearings send me some pictures and I=
can help.=20
>>=20
>> Aaron
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On 29-Sep-2016, at 10:29 PM, Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> John,
>>> Replacing the old bearings because they were worn out. New Timk=
ens seem to be the best available option.
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>>> Jason
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>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:52 PM, John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com> w=
rote:
>>>> Some of the USA-stamped Timkens even look cheap when you compare them t=
o the England-made. I wouldn't be surprised if they were made overseas. If t=
here is nothing wrong with your old bearings, why replace them?
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com> wrote:=
>>>>> Has anyone else noticed rather large variation in carrier bearing widt=
h's when rebuilding a spitfire differential? The one I'm building right now=
, I've replaced what I suspect are the original bearings (Timken England) wi=
th brand new Timken USA bearings. In order to reach the required .004" prel=
oad, it will require .012" LESS total shim than what was in there originally=
. That seems like a big difference with the only variable being new bearing=
s. I'm using the same housing, same carrier, the bearings visually look to b=
e fully pressed home. Anyone else experience this?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Jason Sukey
>>>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Jason</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignatu=
re">If it hasn't got Timken on it? It's not Timken. </div><div id=3D"Ap=
pleMailSignature">If they won't replace it? They know it's not the real thin=
g!</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignatu=
re"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div>On 1 Oct. 2016, a=
t 12:21 am, Jason Sukey <<a href=3D"mailto:jsukey@gmail.com";>jsukey@gmail=
.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Aaron,<div> Funny you should mention this, as I'm cu=
rrently going round and round with RockAuto. I ordered 6 of the Timken=
bearings (15123) - 5 of them look legit, but one of them is clearly differe=
nt. Although the box appears identical, the bearing came wrapped in pl=
astic differently, doesn't actually say "Timken"; only says "China", and fee=
ls awful loose compared to the other 5. Rockauto tells me that this is=
still a true Timken bearing. It's obvious that it's not, but I may ju=
st have to write this one off as they won't replace it. Glad I purchas=
ed extras.</div><div><br></div><div>May not be a true "counterfeit" bearing,=
might be a case of a dishonest customer return that was placed back in stoc=
k. </div><div><br></div><div>Jason</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Aaron Joh=
nson <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:hpspitfire@gmail.com"; target=3D=
"_blank">hpspitfire@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>How did you order the bearings?  =
;There is a huge counterfit bearing manufacturing market. I have lost=
count how many times over the last 6 years I've had to investigate them.&nb=
sp; The last set of ball bearings I bought were skf but we're obviously not l=
egitimate. I took it with me to skf on a visit and confirmed it was no=
t made in any of their factories. </div><div id=3D"m_-3331407489455156=
455AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"m_-3331407489455156455AppleMailS=
ignature">If you've got concerns of counterfit bearings send me some picture=
s and I can help. </div><div id=3D"m_-3331407489455156455AppleMailSigna=
ture"><br></div><div id=3D"m_-3331407489455156455AppleMailSignature">Aaron<b=
r><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On 29-Sep-201=
6, at 10:29 PM, Jason Sukey <<a href=3D"mailto:jsukey@gmail.com"; target=3D=
"_blank">jsukey@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">John,<div> Replacing th=
e old bearings because they were worn out. New Timkens seem to be the b=
est available option.</div><div><br></div><div>Jason</div></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:52 P=
M, John Styduhar <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com=
" target=3D"_blank">johnstydo@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:small">Some of the USA-stamped Timkens even look cheap when you comp=
are them to the England-made. I wouldn't be surprised if they were mad=
e overseas. If there is nothing wrong with your old bearings, why replace th=
em?</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v><div class=3D"m_-3331407489455156455h5">On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:59 AM, J=
ason Sukey <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:jsukey@gmail.com"; target=3D=
"_blank">jsukey@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"m_-3331407489455156455h5"><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Has anyone else noticed rather large variation in carrier bearing width's=
when rebuilding a spitfire differential? The one I'm building right n=
ow, I've replaced what I suspect are the original bearings (Timken England) w=
ith brand new Timken USA bearings. In order to reach the required .004=
" preload, it will require .012" LESS total shim than what was in there orig=
inally. That seems like a big difference with the only variable being n=
ew bearings. I'm using the same housing, same carrier, the bearings vi=
sually look to be fully pressed home. Anyone else experience this?<div=
><br></div><div>Thanks,<br><div><br></div><div>Jason Sukey</div></div></div>=
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