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Hey all,
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I got a hold of TJ Kelly. He is more of a Triumph guy than I knew. He =
was racing a TR6 in Florida at the same time as Group 44 and the Kastner =
Brophy teams were at it elsewhere. He told me that Daytona in 1967 was 9 =
degrees when he was driving in my TR4, not top. He remembers that the =
car lasted the night and expired at about 7 AM with Wilbur Picket =
driving. I had to run but I am going to learn more as we stay in touch. =
The best news is that he is an active 78 year old, lives on a boat (a =
big boat) and will be in Jacksonville for March. He sounded like he will =
do whatever it takes to make it to Sebring.=20
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I better get working on that =
car=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6
Bob
From: Duncan Charlton [mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 1:54 PM
To: Bob Kramer
Cc: Joe Alexander; James J Dolan; fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Planning for Triumphs and Personnel with Sebring =
History
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Bob,
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I might be able to get you his contact information from the author of =
several books on racing Morgans. I asked him if he still has the =
contact info and if he=E2=80=99ll share it. I hear T. J. is retired and =
in Florida.
=20
Duncan Charlton
Elgin, Texas USA
=20
=20
=20
On Aug 25, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Bob Kramer <rkramer3@austin.rr.com> wrote:
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My TR4 was a privateer car campaigned by Joe Hines Jr. He ran it at both =
Daytona and Sebring in 1967 with co-drivers Wilber Pickett, Whit Tharin, =
C.C Canada and T.J. Kelly. Joe Hines is racing in the clouds. I talked =
to him back when I bought the car and he provided me with a few period =
pictures and some background. He ran the car just one year and continued =
on with other cars. He ran a few time in the Daytona 500. T.J. Kelly was =
a long time Morgan racer but I haven=E2=80=99t been able to locate him. =
Wilber Pickett has a long racing resume and he even shared a car with =
Bob Tullius at some point. C.C Canada was around a bit too. Does anyone =
know of the whereabouts of any of these drivers?
=20
Bob
=20
Plans are being made to be at Amelia Island and Sebring 12 Hour in March =
2017.
=20
The plan so far is to have the:
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57 Sebring TR3 from the UK
63 Sebring TR4 from the UK
TR250K that ran in the late 60s
Bob Kramer's Sebring TR4
=20
Russ Pierce plans to bring the Macau.
=20
HSR is the sanctioning body and will have the schedule and entry =
information.
=20
Lodging is an issue and should be pursued early on.
=20
(I plan to stay at the track)
=20
There are no designated project people leading the charge on this. =
Hopefully, the FOT attending will share information and provide support =
to each other.
=20
It is quite possible that the original drivers will attend along with =
Kas and Peg. I am hoping that the current car owners will extend those =
invitations to Bob Tullius, Ed Diehl, and Bob Johns.
=20
I AM looking for a means to get Kas & Peg there and to secure lodging. =
Any ideas are welcome.
=20
Potentially, this could be one of the most significant Triumph Vintage =
Reunions of current times. Tim Suddard called. I know he is interested =
in covering it. Burt Levy is also interested.
=20
And then there is the Kastner Cup in June. The U.K. Triumphs will be =
shipped there to Black Hawk Farms to run the Kastner Cup. How cool is =
that?
=20
Anyway, I hope the Amelia and Sebring events gain great traction. I =
suspect that it will. There is no doubt that the 15th Running of the =
Kastner Cup will be huge. (Hosted by Brian Garcia and Jason Ostrowski.)
=20
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D'>Hey all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I got a hold of TJ Kelly. He is more of a Triumph guy than I knew. He =
was racing a TR6 in Florida at the same time as Group 44 and the Kastner =
Brophy teams were at it elsewhere. He told me that Daytona in 1967 was 9 =
degrees when he was driving in my TR4, not top. He remembers that the =
car lasted the night and expired at about 7 AM with Wilbur Picket =
driving. I had to run but I am going to learn more as we stay in touch. =
The best news is that he is an active 78 year old, lives on a boat (a =
big boat) and will be in Jacksonville for March. He sounded like he will =
do whatever it takes to make it to Sebring. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I better get working on that =
car=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Duncan Charlton [mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> =
Thursday, August 25, 2016 1:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Kramer<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Joe Alexander; James J Dolan; fot@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Fot] Planning for Triumphs and Personnel with Sebring =
History<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bob,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
might be able to get you his contact information from the author of =
several books on racing Morgans. I asked him if he still has the =
contact info and if he=E2=80=99ll share it. I hear T. J. is =
retired and in Florida.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Duncan Charlton<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Elgin, Texas USA<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Aug 25, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Bob Kramer <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com";>rkramer3@austin.rr.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>My TR4 was a privateer car campaigned by Joe Hines Jr. He ran it at =
both Daytona and Sebring in 1967 with co-drivers Wilber Pickett, Whit =
Tharin, C.C Canada and T.J. Kelly. Joe Hines is racing in the =
clouds. I talked to him back when I bought the car and he provided me =
with a few period pictures and some background. He ran the car just one =
year and continued on with other cars. He ran a few time in the Daytona =
500. T.J. Kelly was a long time Morgan racer but I haven=E2=80=99t been =
able to locate him. Wilber Pickett has a long racing resume and he even =
shared a car with Bob Tullius at some point. C.C Canada was around a bit =
too. Does anyone know of the whereabouts of any of these =
drivers?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Bob</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Plans are being made to be at Amelia Island and =
Sebring 12 Hour in March 2017.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The plan so far is to have =
the:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>57 Sebring TR3 from the =
UK<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>63 Sebring =
TR4 from the UK<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>TR250K that ran in the late =
60s<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob =
Kramer's Sebring TR4<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Russ Pierce plans to bring the =
Macau.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>HSR is the sanctioning body and will have the schedule =
and entry information.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Lodging is an issue and should be pursued early =
on.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>(I plan to stay at the =
track)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>There are no designated project people leading the =
charge on this. Hopefully, the FOT attending will share information and =
provide support to each other.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>It is quite possible that the original drivers will =
attend along with Kas and Peg. I am hoping that the current car owners =
will extend those invitations to Bob Tullius, Ed Diehl, and Bob =
Johns.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I AM looking for a means to get Kas & Peg there =
and to secure lodging. Any ideas are =
welcome.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Potentially, this could be one of the most significant =
Triumph Vintage Reunions of current times. Tim Suddard called. I know he =
is interested in covering it. Burt Levy is also =
interested.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>And then there is the Kastner Cup in June. The U.K. =
Triumphs will be shipped there to Black Hawk Farms to run the Kastner =
Cup. How cool is that?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Anyway, I hope the Amelia and Sebring events gain =
great traction. I suspect that it will. There is no doubt that the 15th =
Running of the Kastner Cup will be huge. (Hosted by Brian Garcia and =
Jason Ostrowski.)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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