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To: Bud Rolofson <levilevi@comcast.net>, "Barr, Scott" <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube
From: Robert Lang <robertlangtr6@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 14:19:49 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: FOT List <fot@autox.team.net>
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Hi,
I never did find the missing dip stick tube, but I played around a bit with=
 random bits in the shop and was able to take a 5 in length of 3/8" bundy t=
ube and=C2=A0 make it fit. I had to turn the section that fits into the blo=
ck down to .350 or so for a sloppy fit and then JB welded the tube to the p=
roper height. I finished it off with a 37 degree flare at the open end for =
a good seal with the dip stick.
No more excuses now. The engine is less than an hour of futzing 'till I dro=
p into the car.
C ya,Bob Lang
=20

    On Saturday, May 14, 2016 1:45 AM, Bud Rolofson <levilevi@comcast.net> =
wrote:
=20

 My Spit did it too. I got the meatball flag so many times from oil on the =
headers that it was ridiculous. Got so I'd look for it every lap.=C2=A0
At first I tried a spring to hold the dipstick down tight in the tube but i=
t still leaked. Then I tried to cap the dipstick tube with a silicon plug a=
nd a silicon cap and held with a clamp but that leaked too.=C2=A0
The solution on my engine was not with the just the tube or dipstick it was=
 in venting the engine better on both the top and bottom end and adjusting =
the spring load of the split on the dipstick.
I added a 1 inch ID hose venting the oil pan at the old mechanical fuel pum=
p opening and added a 1/2 inch ID hose to the valve cover so along with the=
 stock existing 3/8 inch hose on the valve cover I ended up with 1 7/8 inch=
es of hose vented to the required catch tank.
I also bent the split on the dipstick so that it was harder to pull out of =
the tube and I replaced the felt gasket.
Extreme venting and spreading the dipstick cured the oil out the dipstick p=
roblem on my engine and probably has helped avoid pushing oil out other pla=
ces. Plus the engine isn't having to overcome any buildup of bypass gas pre=
ssures on the bottom. I hope.=C2=A0
Nice that the dipstick is still there for checking the oil and I don't have=
 to go look for it.
Plus I haven't seen the meatball flag in awhile.
Bud Rolofson

Sent from my Commodore 64
On May 13, 2016, at 6:46 AM, Barr, Scott <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com> wrote:



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97675981 Yep, my Spit engines did the same to me (sans flames, in my case, =
so far as I know).=C2=A0 They all have plugs instead of dipstick tubes and =
I have a square drive socket and specific length extension and shorty ratch=
et which work perfectly to pull the plug and check the oil whether the head=
er is red hot, cold or in between.  =C2=A0 But yeah, we were talking about =
a TR6 originally =E2=80=93 other side and without the crank shooting oil up=
 the tube with every revolution=E2=80=A6  =C2=A0 Scott B.  =C2=A0 From: Fot=
 [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Robert Dalziel
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 7:45 PM
To: Jason Ostrowski <jason@multivintage.com>
Cc: FOT List <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube  =C2=A0 Long. Long ago ,(1992 ) My 11=
47. With accusump could pump oil up the dipstick tube.=C2=A0 Raise the dips=
tick it's self and blow back on the header wrap. Where it would burn off li=
ke a wick. Corner workers thought they saw fire ( they did ) but it was out=
 by the time I got back to pit lane.=C2=A0 It took two sessions to discover=
 that. It is interesting to sit in pit lane . Engine running.=C2=A0 My helm=
et and earplugs Blocking all speech and watching my one man crew argue with=
 the pit marshal=C2=A0 To not discharge the dry extinguisher as there was n=
o fire. =C2=A0And even more amazing how compleat the lack of air is when th=
at power cloud hits you ! The quick fix at the track was to plug the dipsti=
ck hole , and free up more breather space. =C2=A0 Now I have a hex plug . I=
 only check it when the pipes are cold. I can learn things. After a while.=
=C2=A0 It's been 25 years now that plug works great

Awrabest. =C2=A0 Scottie=20
On May 12, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Jason Ostrowski <jason@multivintage.com> wrote=
:=20
The 6 cylinder configuration we are talking about here has all that stuff o=
n the opposite side. So, it has nothing of the sort in the way. Anyway, Lik=
e I said "to each his own" Both options allow for the hole to be closed and=
 the oil to be checked. One of my race cars is yellow and the other is gree=
n. I love them both the same.=20

 Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing=C2=A0.=20

  =C2=A0 On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Rocky Entriken <rocky@spitfire4.c=
om> wrote:=20
Is it a race car? Of course it requires tools. there=E2=80=99s all kinds of=
 things you simply never bother with on a street car (or leave to the mecha=
nic) for which you need/want tools on a race car. =C2=A0 That dipstick tube=
 is a street car item (and the stock exhaust manifold is not in the way). M=
y race car has headers (whichare in the way), an oil cooler, Accusump, remo=
te oil filter, baffled pan, an oil pump with a filter screen, exterior (ste=
el-braided) plumbing a street car does not have (and which has its own spec=
ial wrenches), and 7.5 quarts of not-street-legal synthetic oil. Not gonna =
get married to a street-car item like a frickin=E2=80=99=C2=A0 tin tube sti=
cking out of the engine block. =C2=A0 --Rocky =C2=A0 From:Steven Belfer  Se=
nt: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:27 AM To:rjl@gt-classics.com  Cc:Robert Lang =
; FOT List ; Rocky Entriken  Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube =C2=A0 R=
eally? It seems to be a pretty good invention in its designated place. Chec=
king the oil level shouldn't require tools.

~Steve  =C2=A0=20
On May 12, 2016, at 5:24 AM, R. John Lye <rjl@gt-classics.com> wrote:=20
I second that suggestion.=C2=A0 That's what I did as well. =C2=A0 John

On Wed, 11 May 2016 21:44:49 -0500, Rocky Entriken <rocky@spitfire4.com> wr=
ote:=20
Option 2. =C2=A0 All you need is a plug. Best kind is one where the hex hea=
d is actually smaller than the plug, so you can reach it with a socket exte=
nsion and remove it easily when the headers are still hot. =C2=A0 My dipsti=
ck is a toolbox item. My two race engines have the dipstick tubes removed .=
.. on purpose. =C2=A0 --Rocky Entriken =C2=A0 =C2=A0 From:Robert Lang  Sent=
: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:21 PM To:FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip St=
ick Tube =C2=A0 Hi, =C2=A0 I somehow managed to lose the dip stick tube for=
 my latest engine. So, what's the consensus: =C2=A0 1. fabricate a tube fro=
m some aluminum 2. drill / tap the block for an AN fitting and fab up a dip=
 stick of the proper length =C2=A0 ??? =C2=A0 In other words, I'm looking f=
or suggestions. =C2=A0 Oddly, three engine block cores and no dip stick tub=
es. What's up with that? =C2=A0 Regards, Bob Lang 339-927-449 =C2=A0 ______=
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sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div>Hi,</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14634=
82849402_40958"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14634828=
49402_40959">I never did find the missing dip stick tube, but I played arou=
nd a bit with random bits in the shop and was able to take a 5 in length of=
 3/8" bundy tube and&nbsp; make it fit. I had to turn the section that fits=
 into the block down to .350 or so for a sloppy fit and then JB welded the =
tube to the proper height. I finished it off with a 37 degree flare at the =
open end for a good seal with the dip stick.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1463482849402_41679" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1463482849402_41680" dir=3D"ltr">No more excuses now. The engine is less t=
han an hour of futzing 'till I drop into the car.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1463482849402_41926" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1463482849402_41927" dir=3D"ltr">C ya,</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1463482849402_41928" dir=3D"ltr">Bob Lang<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1463482849402_40957"><span></span></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparate=
BR"><br><br></div><div style=3D"display: block;" class=3D"yahoo_quoted"> <d=
iv style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, L=
ucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: Hel=
veticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; fo=
nt-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> On Satur=
day, May 14, 2016 1:45 AM, Bud Rolofson &lt;levilevi@comcast.net&gt; wrote:=
<br></font></div>  <br><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv60=
97675981"><div><div>My Spit did it too. I got the meatball flag so many tim=
es from oil on the headers that it was ridiculous. Got so I'd look for it e=
very lap.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">At first I trie=
d a spring to hold the dipstick down tight in the tube but it still leaked.=
 Then I tried to cap the dipstick tube with a silicon plug and a silicon ca=
p and held with a clamp but that leaked too.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yiv60976=
75981AppleMailSignature"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv6097675981A=
ppleMailSignature">The solution on my engine was not with the just the tube=
 or dipstick it was in venting the engine better on both the top and bottom=
 end and adjusting the spring load of the split on the dipstick.</div><div =
id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"=
yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">I added a 1 inch ID hose venting the oil p=
an at the old mechanical fuel pump opening and added a 1/2 inch ID hose to =
the valve cover so along with the stock existing 3/8 inch hose on the valve=
 cover I ended up with 1 7/8 inches of hose vented to the required catch ta=
nk.</div><div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">I also bent the split on the=
 dipstick so that it was harder to pull out of the tube and I replaced the =
felt gasket.</div><div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">Extreme venting and=
 spreading the dipstick cured the oil out the dipstick problem on my engine=
 and probably has helped avoid pushing oil out other places. Plus the engin=
e isn't having to overcome any buildup of bypass gas pressures on the botto=
m. I hope.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">Nice that the d=
ipstick is still there for checking the oil and I don't have to go look for=
 it.</div><div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">Plus I haven't seen the mea=
tball flag in awhile.</div><div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">Bud Rolofs=
on</div><div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear=3D"none"><br =
clear=3D"none">Sent from my Commodore 64</div><div class=3D"yiv6097675981yq=
t9302399786" id=3D"yiv6097675981yqt75540"><div><br clear=3D"none">On May 13=
, 2016, at 6:46 AM, Barr, Scott &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:sbarr@mccarty-law.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:sbarr=
@mccarty-law.com">sbarr@McCarty-Law.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>

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<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">Yep=
, my Spit engines did the same to me (sans flames, in my case, so far as I =
know).&nbsp; They all have plugs instead of dipstick tubes and I have a squ=
are drive
 socket and specific length extension and shorty ratchet which work perfect=
ly to pull the plug and check the oil whether the header is red hot, cold o=
r in between.</span></div>=20
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>=20
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">But=
 yeah, we were talking about a TR6 originally =E2=80=93 other side and with=
out the crank shooting oil up the tube with every revolution=E2=80=A6</span=
></div>=20
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>=20
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">Sco=
tt B.</span></div>=20
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>=20
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<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">=
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;"> Fot [<a rel=3D"nofollow"=
 shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:fot-bounces@autox.te=
am.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Dalziel<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 12, 2016 7:45 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Jason Ostrowski &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:jason@multivintage.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:jason@m=
ultivintage.com">jason@multivintage.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> FOT List &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>=
fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube</span></div>=20
</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>=20
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">Long. Long ago ,(1992 ) My 1147. With=
 accusump could pump oil up the dipstick tube.&nbsp;</div>=20
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">Raise the dipstick it's self and blow=
 back on the header wrap. Where it would burn off like a wick.</div>=20
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">Corner workers thought they saw fire =
( they did ) but it was out by the time I got back to pit lane.&nbsp;</div>=
=20
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">It took two sessions to discover that=
.</div>=20
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">It is interesting to sit in pit lane =
. Engine running.&nbsp;</div>=20
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">My helmet and earplugs</div>=20
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">Blocking all speech and watching my o=
ne man crew argue with the pit marshal&nbsp;</div>=20
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">To not discharge the dry extinguisher=
 as there was no fire. &nbsp;And even more amazing how compleat the lack of=
 air is when that power cloud hits you !</div>=20
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">The quick fix at the track was to plu=
g the dipstick hole , and free up more breather space. &nbsp;</div>=20
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">Now I have a hex plug .</div>=20
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">I only check it when the pipes are co=
ld. I can learn things. After a while.&nbsp;</div>=20
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">It's been 25 years now that plug work=
s great<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Awrabest. &nbsp; Scottie</div>=20
</div>
<div>
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lear=3D"none">
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=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:jason@multivintage.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:jason@multivintage.com";>jason@multivintage.com</a>&gt; wrote:</d=
iv>=20
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">The 6 cylinder configuration we are t=
alking about here has all that stuff on the opposite side.</div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">So, it has nothing of the sort in the=
 way.</div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">Anyway, Like I said "to each his own"=
</div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">Both options allow for the hole to be=
 closed and the oil to be checked.</div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">One of my race cars is yellow and the=
 other is green.</div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">I love them both the same.</div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">Jason Ostrowski</div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">Friendly Ghost Racing&nbsp;.</div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>=20
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>=20
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal">On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Rock=
y Entriken &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rocky@s=
pitfire4.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com";>rocky@s=
pitfire4.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>=20
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Is it a race car? Of=
 course it requires tools. there=E2=80=99s all kinds of things you simply n=
ever bother with on a street car (or leave to the mechanic) for which you n=
eed/want tools
 on a race car.</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=
=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">That dipstick tube i=
s a street car item (and the stock exhaust manifold is not in the way). My =
race car has headers (which
<u>are</u> in the way), an oil cooler, Accusump, remote oil filter, baffled=
 pan, an oil pump with a filter screen, exterior (steel-braided) plumbing a=
 street car does not have (and which has its own special wrenches), and 7.5=
 quarts of not-street-legal synthetic
 oil. Not gonna get married to a street-car item like a frickin=E2=80=99&nb=
sp; tin tube sticking out of the engine block.</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=
=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">--Rocky</span></div>=
=20
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke;"><b><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:steve@artwithcars.com"=
 target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:steve@artwithcars.com"; title=3D"steve@art=
withcars.com">
Steven Belfer</a> </span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke;"><b><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Sent:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;"> Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:27 AM</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke;"><b><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">To:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rjl@gt-classics.com"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rjl@gt-classics.com"; title=3D"rjl@gt-classi=
cs.com">
rjl@gt-classics.com</a> </span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke;"><b><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Cc:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.co=
m" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com"; title=3D"rober=
tlangtr6@yahoo.com">
Robert Lang</a> ; <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; title=
=3D"fot@autox.team.net">
FOT List</a> ; <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rocky@s=
pitfire4.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com"; title=
=3D"rocky@spitfire4.com">
Rocky Entriken</a> </span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke;"><b><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Subject:</span></b><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;"> Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube</span></div>=20
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=
=20
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Really? It seems to =
be a pretty good invention in its designated place. Checking the oil level =
shouldn't require tools.
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
~Steve </span></div>=20
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=
=20
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D""><br clear=3D"none">
On May 12, 2016, at 5:24 AM, R. John Lye &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"r=
ect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rjl@gt-classics.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailt=
o:rjl@gt-classics.com">rjl@gt-classics.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></div>=20
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<div>
<div><span style=3D"">I second that suggestion.&nbsp; That's what I did as =
well.</span></div>=20
<div><span style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=20
<div><span style=3D"">John<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
On Wed, 11 May 2016 21:44:49 -0500, Rocky Entriken &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" =
shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com"; target=3D"_blank" hre=
f=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com";>rocky@spitfire4.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><=
/div>=20
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in =
0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-b=
ottom:5.0pt;">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Option 2.</span></di=
v>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=
=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">All you need is a pl=
ug. Best kind is one where the hex head is actually smaller than the plug, =
so you can reach it with a socket extension and remove it easily when the h=
eaders
 are still hot.</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=
=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">My dipstick is a too=
lbox item. My two race engines have the dipstick tubes removed ... on purpo=
se.</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=
=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">--Rocky Entriken</sp=
an></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=
=20
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke;"><str=
ong><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.co=
m" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com"; title=3D"rober=
tlangtr6@yahoo.com">
Robert Lang</a> </span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke;"><str=
ong><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Sent:</span></strong><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;"> Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:21
 PM</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke;"><str=
ong><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">To:</span></strong><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; title=3D"fot@autox.team.=
net">FOT List</a>
</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke;"><str=
ong><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Subject:</span></strong><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick
 Tube</span></div>=20
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=
=20
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">Hi,</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">I somehow managed to lose the dip stick tube for my latest engine. =
So, what's the consensus:</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">1. fabricate a tube from some aluminum</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">2. drill / tap the block for an AN fitting and fab up a dip stick o=
f the proper length</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">???</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">In other words, I'm looking for suggestions.</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">Oddly, three engine block cores and no dip stick tubes. What's up w=
ith that?</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">Regards,</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">Bob Lang</span></div>=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">339-927-449</span></div>=20
</div>
</div>
<div><span style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=20
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:center;" align=3D=
"center"><span style=3D"">
</span><hr align=3D"center" size=3D"2" width=3D"100%">
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"">_______________________________________________<br clear=3D"non=
e">
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rget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><b=
r clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.fot=
-racing.com/">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
/www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear=3D"=
none">
Archive: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http:=
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Forums: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http:/=
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ef=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com";>
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com</a><br clear=
=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</span></div>=20
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">gines haved the dips=
tock</span></div>=20
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></div>=
=20
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:center;" align=3D=
"center"><span style=3D"">
</span><hr align=3D"center" size=3D"2" width=3D"100%">
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D""><br clear=3D"none">
_______________________________________________<br clear=3D"none">
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rget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><b=
r clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.fot=
-racing.com/">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br clear=3D"none">
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/www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear=3D"=
none">
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Forums: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http:/=
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ef=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com";>
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com</a></span></d=
iv>=20
</blockquote>
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></div>=
=20
<div><span style=3D""><br clear=3D"none">
--<br clear=3D"none">
Thanks,<br clear=3D"none">
John<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rjl@gt-classics.com"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rjl@gt-classics.com";>rjl@gt-classics.com</a=
></span></div>=20
<div><span style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div>=20
</div>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"">_______________________________________________<br clear=3D"non=
e">
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rget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><b=
r clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.fot=
-racing.com/">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br clear=3D"none">
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/www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear=3D"=
none">
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Forums: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http:/=
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ef=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steve@artwithcars.com";>
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steve@artwithcars.com</a><br clea=
r=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</span></div>=20
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">terior (steel-b raid=
ed_ p-lumbkijngb</span></div>=20
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><br c=
lear=3D"none">
_______________________________________________<br clear=3D"none">
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rget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><b=
r clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.fot=
-racing.com/">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br clear=3D"none">
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/www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear=3D"=
none">
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ef=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com";>
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com</a><br cle=
ar=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>=20
</blockquote>
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>=20
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;">_____=
__________________________________________<br clear=3D"none">
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r clear=3D"none">
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