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Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 TR6 quick rack
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:13:06 -0500
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Curious,


What has been the fix to these racks to make them reliable, if any??  I have a 
TVR buddy that has an Argentine Quik Rack an would be interested in learning 
about any successful fix(s), outside of tossing this brand new rack he acquired 
a few years ago.

Helping a friend,
Bob T
'64 Spit GT  autocrosser




-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Sheach <tony.sheach@live.co.uk>
To: Jack Mc <LimeyV8@aol.com>
Cc: <fot@autox.team.net> <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2015 7:47 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 TR6 quick rack



All the racks sold by MOSS are made in Argentina - the only rack produced in 
the UK for the TR is made for TR Enterprises and has a solid billet casing, so 
instantly recognisable.


Putting the Argentinian rack in a bag with a sticker that says 'product of the 
U.K.' Is surely just a dodge to mask the source and to hoodwink people into 
thinking that it's a different product. That's simply scandalous. 

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On 10 Nov 2015, at 21:26, Jack Mc <LimeyV8@aol.com> wrote:



The quick rack I bought had a sticker on the bag that said "product of the 
U.K." 
AND
a sticker on the rack that said "Made in Argentina"

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 9, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley 
<triosan@gmail.com> wrote:




Tony,
Who si the source for the UK made rack?



On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Tony Sheach <tony.sheach@live.co.uk> wrote:

Charly

There were a large number of failures of these racks in the UK on both road and 
competition cars. For MOSS to say that there was only one is simply untrue.

I personally had TWO failures of brand new racks about 18 months apart. Both of 
these failures involved the pinion housing separating from the rack tube at 
high speed in very dangerous circumstances.

I would NOT recommend the use of a MOSS rack to anyone, whether for road or 
competition use because the manufacturing quality is poor and the material 
quality is similarly inadequate. The information that I was given at a meeting 
face to face with MOSS in london have me the impression that some testing had 
been done, but the solution to the problem really had not been found (ie do the 
job properly).

I now use a custom made rack which has a single piece pinion housing and rack 
tube made from billet aluminium. These are being made in the UK. I will never 
use a steering rack supplied by MOSS again.

Regards

Tony

Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Nov 2015, at 07:04, Charly <charly@mitchelplumbing.com> wrote:
>
> Friends,
>
> I have a friend wanting to buy a quick steering rack for his TR4A.  I told 
> him there was a problem with them, but I thought it was resolved.  I searched 
> the archives
> and could find anything about it.  Does someone in the group know the outcome 
> of the problems that were brought to Moss on these quick racks?
> Thanks,
> Charly Mitchel
> Tr6 #44
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Curious,
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<div>What has been the fix to these racks to make them reliable, if any?? 
&nbsp;I have a TVR buddy that has an Argentine Quik Rack an would be interested 
in learning about any successful fix(s), outside of tossing this brand new rack 
he acquired a few years ago.<br>
<br>
Helping a friend,</div>

<div>Bob T</div>

<div>'64 Spit GT &nbsp;autocrosser</div>

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From: Tony Sheach &lt;tony.sheach@live.co.uk&gt;<br>
To: Jack Mc &lt;LimeyV8@aol.com&gt;<br>
Cc: &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2015 7:47 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 TR6 quick rack<br>
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<div>All the racks sold by MOSS are made in Argentina - the only rack produced 
in the UK for the TR is made for TR Enterprises and has a solid billet casing, 
so instantly recognisable.</div>

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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Putting the Argentinian rack in a bag with a 
sticker that says 'product of the U.K.' Is surely just a dodge to mask the 
source and to hoodwink people into thinking that it's a different product. 
That's simply scandalous.&nbsp;</div>

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Sent from my iPad</div>

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On 10 Nov 2015, at 21:26, Jack Mc &lt;<a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:LimeyV8@aol.com";>LimeyV8@aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>The quick rack I bought had a sticker on the bag that said "product of the 
U.K."&nbsp;</div>

<div>AND</div>

<div>a sticker on the rack that said "Made in Argentina"<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad</div>

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On Nov 9, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley &lt;<a 
target="_blank" href="mailto:triosan@gmail.com";>triosan@gmail.com</a>&gt; 
wrote:<br>
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style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Tony,</div>

<div class="gmail_default" 
style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Who si the source for the UK 
made rack?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Tony Sheach <span 
dir="ltr">&lt;<a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:tony.sheach@live.co.uk";>tony.sheach@live.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> 
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solid;padding-left:1ex">Charly<br>

<br>

There were a large number of failures of these racks in the UK on both road and 
competition cars. For MOSS to say that there was only one is simply untrue.<br>

<br>

I personally had TWO failures of brand new racks about 18 months apart. Both of 
these failures involved the pinion housing separating from the rack tube at 
high speed in very dangerous circumstances.<br>

<br>

I would NOT recommend the use of a MOSS rack to anyone, whether for road or 
competition use because the manufacturing quality is poor and the material 
quality is similarly inadequate. The information that I was given at a meeting 
face to face with MOSS in london have me the impression that some testing had 
been done, but the solution to the problem really had not been found (ie do the 
job properly).<br>

<br>

I now use a custom made rack which has a single piece pinion housing and rack 
tube made from billet aluminium. These are being made in the UK. I will never 
use a steering rack supplied by MOSS again.<br>

<br>

Regards<br>

<br>

Tony<br>

<br>

Sent from my iPhone<br>

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&gt; On 9 Nov 2015, at 07:04, Charly &lt;<a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:charly@mitchelplumbing.com";>charly@mitchelplumbing.com</a>&gt; 
wrote:<br>

&gt;<br>

&gt; Friends,<br>

&gt;<br>

&gt; I have a friend wanting to buy a quick steering rack for his TR4A.&nbsp; I 
told him there was a problem with them, but I thought it was resolved.&nbsp; I 
searched the archives<br>

&gt; and could find anything about it.&nbsp; Does someone in the group know the 
outcome of the problems that were brought to Moss on these quick racks?<br>

&gt; Thanks,<br>

&gt; Charly Mitchel<br>

&gt; Tr6 #44<br>

&gt;<br>

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