This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--===============4060237578739898250==
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0155_01D05F13.9E9F1EF0"
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
------=_NextPart_000_0155_01D05F13.9E9F1EF0
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Macel, I had a similar problem when I modified my TR4A suspension. I had =
fitted the TR6 lower inner 2 stud frame mounts and the back up plates =
for additional strength over the single stud original TR4A inner mounts. =
I needed to loosen the lower mounts to the frame to allow the upright to =
easily attach to the upper ball joint. Once I did that everything went =
together as it should and I then tightened the the lower mounts to the =
frame. There was enough movement in the frame holes which allowed the =
lower A- Arms to move and make the upright out of position. Get all of =
the parts together before you final tighten the lower inner frame =
mounts.=20
Of course having the trunnion properly sided is important too.
JVV
From: Marcel Van Mulders via Fot=20
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 10:33 AM
To: fot@autox.team.net=20
Subject: [Fot] FW: FW: TR4A front suspension.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------
Van: Marcel Van Mulders [mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be]=20
Verzonden: zondag 15 maart 2015 15:28
Aan: 'davehogye'
Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] FW: TR4A front suspension.
Quoting Dave : "... of course the trunnions are sided...". Unbelievable, =
but the left lower trunnion is mounted on the right side of the car and =
vice versa. I have worked on the front suspension during 5 evenings till =
01.00 am and still didn't see it, although these trunnions are marked RH =
and LH. I noticed it this morning when starting to fit adjustable upper =
inner fulcrum pins. When correctly fitting the lower outer trunnion =
bolt, only the part of the upright that is screwed in the trunnion is =
allowing a little movement , the upper ball joint could not be forced =
between the upper (original)wishbones. This is the case on both sides of =
the car and the upper ball joint is 1cm more to the front than the lower =
trunnion when the car is level(=3D a little negative caster). I'll =
report on this forum when I've swapped the trunnions and uprights next =
week.
Of course I don't want to blame anyone. Everyone does make mistakes and =
this TR4A of Bob Kramer is a very good car with many great features. I'm =
very pleased with it and I expect to run in the front.
Marcel.
van: davehogye [mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net]=20
Verzonden: dinsdag 10 maart 2015 20:07
Aan: Marcel Van Mulders
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] FW: TR4A front suspension.
RevingtonTR has adjustable upper, inner fulcrum pins, which allow camber =
adjustment, but also allow the upright to find a happy place without =
force. I would think that if everything is within factory specs, the =
upright should align as long as you have the 3 degree trunnion. Of =
course the 3 degree trunnions are sided.
The adjustable fulcrum pin is probably not allowed by your rule book. I =
use them on my TR3 to get negative camber without modifying/shortening =
the upper arms. These adjustable pins can be flipped depending on the =
ride height. They also come with spacers that fit between the ball =
joint and the A-arms for further caster adjustment.
Dave H.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------
From: "Marcel Van Mulders via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
To: fot@autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:13:06 AM
Subject: [Fot] FW: TR4A front suspension.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------
Van: Marcel Van Mulders [mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be]=20
Verzonden: dinsdag 10 maart 2015 19:04
Aan: 'Jack Wheeler'
Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] TR4A front suspension.
All the parts are TR-4A-TR6, so the trunnions are 3=B0 (all TR trunnions =
that have removable trunnion bolts are handed, trunnions with pressed in =
pins can be 0=B0 or 3=B0).
"...the lower trunnion should rotate around the bolt..." If I understand =
what you mean, I don't believe this is correct : the trunnion bolt is =
clamping the distance pieces (short pieces of steel tube that slide over =
the bolt and rotate in the outer wishbone bushings) onto the trunnion =
and hence the bolt, trunnion and distance pieces should rotate together =
and only the wishbones can rotate in respect to the bolt (and trunnion =
and distance pieces). I have assembled the suspension in this way, =
eliminating thus the play of the trunnion on the bolt and this is the =
reason I had to drill new holes , more to the rear, in order to get the =
upperr end of the uprights between the outer ends of the upper =
wishbones. All parts and also the chassis seem to be all right. Maybe I =
get it wrong anyway with the assembling of the suspension parts
Marcel.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------
Van: Jack Wheeler [mailto:jwheeler1947@yahoo.com]=20
Verzonden: zondag 8 maart 2015 23:40
Aan: Van Mulders Marcel
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] TR4A front suspension.
Do you have the TR-4A uprights and trunions? The TR-4A trunion is just =
the brass piece that fits in between the lower wishbone arms and a bolt =
slides through it, instead of the fulcrum pin (pressed into the =
trunion), as you would have had on your TR-3. The lower trunion should =
rotate on the bolt, and the wishbone arm bushings. There is a left and =
right hand, and when properly installed, you should have about 3 degrees =
of positive castor on both sides. I raced a TR-4A for 25 years, so I =
know the suspension intimately! Good luck.
Jack
-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------
From: Van Mulders Marcel via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: fot@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2015 5:35 PM
Subject: [Fot] TR4A front suspension.
In June 2014 I bought Bob Kramer's TR4A racecar after I crashed my TR3 =
at the Zandvoort circuit (The Netherlands). It's a great car and it will =
get better. Of my TR3, I only kept the engine and overdrive dogbox =
Overhauling the front suspension, I found that the lower trunnion was =
moving on the bolt instead of the bushed lower wishbones : the distance =
pieces in the wishbones where shorter than original, so the trunnion was =
not clamped by these distance pieces when fastening the bolt. Correcting =
this, the upright has less play now, only a little in the trunnion, and =
this upright with balljoint can't be forced anymore between the outer =
ends of the upper wihbones, the balljoint is 1/2" too far to the rear. =
Turning the upper wishbones to the rear (by moving the fulcrum pin) =
isn't a good option, because binding will occur. I've drilled new holes =
for the brackets for the inner ends of the lower wishbones : the =
suspension is moving without any binding now but I don't know if I will =
leave it like that. I wonder if something is wrong with the uprights? =
(less than 3=B0 caster?) If I measure the caster, I find 2.2=B0 on both =
sides, but probably that isn't proving anything. The chassis is as new, =
no damage. Any idea's someone?
Another question : trying to get at zero bump steer, the best I get at =
by moving the steering rack is a J : the wheels are toeing in when =
lowered more than 3 cm below ride height (minimal to 5cm, then more and =
more toe in). Bending the steering arms to the outside, almost touching =
the brake disks now, has straightened the J a little. Is it possible to =
eliminate the bump steer completely, or have we(TR4A-TR6) to accept some =
bump steer in the least important part of the suspension travel?
Marcel.
------=_NextPart_000_0155_01D05F13.9E9F1EF0
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
<META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 11.00.9600.17690"></HEAD>
<BODY dir=3Dltr>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<DIV>Macel, I had a similar problem when I modified my TR4A suspension. =
I had=20
fitted the TR6 lower inner 2 stud frame mounts and the back up plates =
for=20
additional strength over the single stud original TR4A inner mounts. I =
needed to=20
loosen the lower mounts to the frame to allow the upright to easily =
attach to=20
the upper ball joint. Once I did that everything went together as it =
should and=20
I then tightened the the lower mounts to the frame. There was enough =
movement in=20
the frame holes which allowed the lower A- Arms to move and make the =
upright out=20
of position. Get all of the parts together before you final tighten the =
lower=20
inner frame mounts. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Of course having the trunnion properly sided is important =
too.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>JVV</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; =
COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: =
none">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma">
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Dfot@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>Marcel Van Mulders via Fot</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 15, 2015 10:33 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dfot@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Fot] FW: FW: TR4A front =
suspension.</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; =
COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: =
none">
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Dnl class=3DOutlookMessageHeader align=3Dleft>
<HR tabIndex=3D-1>
<FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><B>Van:</B> Marcel Van Mulders=20
[mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be] <BR><B>Verzonden:</B> zondag 15 =
maart=20
2015 15:28<BR><B>Aan:</B> 'davehogye'<BR><B>Onderwerp:</B> RE: [Fot] FW: =
TR4A=20
front suspension.<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D240140614-15032015><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2 face=3DArial>Quoting Dave : "... of course the trunnions are =
sided...".=20
Unbelievable, but the left lower trunnion is mounted on the right side =
of the=20
car and vice versa. I have worked on the front suspension during 5 =
evenings till=20
01.00 am and still didn't see it, although these trunnions are marked RH =
and LH.=20
I noticed it this morning when starting to fit adjustable upper inner =
fulcrum=20
pins. When correctly fitting the lower outer trunnion bolt, only the =
part of the=20
upright that is screwed in the trunnion is allowing a little movement , =
the=20
upper ball joint could not be forced between the upper =
(original)wishbones. This=20
is the case on both sides of the car and the upper ball joint is 1cm =
more to the=20
front than the lower trunnion when the car is level(=3D a little =
negative caster).=20
I'll report on this forum when I've swapped the trunnions and uprights =
next=20
week.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D240140614-15032015><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2 face=3DArial>Of course I don't want to blame anyone. Everyone =
does make=20
mistakes and this TR4A of Bob Kramer is a very good car with many great=20
features. I'm very pleased with it and I expect to run in the=20
front.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D240140614-15032015><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2 face=3DArial>Marcel.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D240140614-15032015><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D240140614-15032015><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2 face=3DArial>v</FONT></SPAN><FONT size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><B>an:</B> davehogye=20
[mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net] <BR><B>Verzonden:</B> dinsdag 10 maart 2015 =
20:07<BR><B>Aan:</B> Marcel Van Mulders<BR><B>Onderwerp:</B> Re: [Fot] =
FW: TR4A=20
front suspension.<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<DIV>RevingtonTR has adjustable upper, inner fulcrum pins, which allow =
camber=20
adjustment, but also allow the upright to find a happy place without=20
force. I would think that if everything is within factory specs, =
the=20
upright should align as long as you have the 3 degree trunnion. Of =
course=20
the 3 degree trunnions are sided.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>The adjustable fulcrum pin is probably not allowed by your rule =
book. =20
I use them on my TR3 to get negative camber without modifying/shortening =
the=20
upper arms. These adjustable pins can be flipped depending on the =
ride=20
height. They also come with spacers that fit between the ball =
joint and=20
the A-arms for further caster adjustment.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Dave H.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<HR id=3Dzwchr>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; =
COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: =
none"><B>From:=20
</B>"Marcel Van Mulders via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net><BR><B>To:=20
</B>fot@autox.team.net<BR><B>Sent: </B>Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:13:06=20
AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>[Fot] FW: TR4A front suspension.<BR>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Dnl class=3DOutlookMessageHeader align=3Dleft>
<HR>
<SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; FONT-SIZE: small"=20
data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: small;" =
face=3D"Tahoma"=20
size=3D"2"><B>Van:</B> Marcel Van Mulders =
[mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be]=20
<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> dinsdag 10 maart 2015 19:04<BR><B>Aan:</B> 'Jack=20
Wheeler'<BR><B>Onderwerp:</B> RE: [Fot] TR4A front=20
suspension.<BR></SPAN><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D455354617-10032015><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: #0000ff; FONT-SIZE: small"=20
data-mce-style=3D"color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" =
face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2" color=3D"#0000ff">All the parts are TR-4A-TR6, =
so the=20
trunnions are 3=B0 (all TR trunnions that have removable trunnion bolts =
are=20
handed, trunnions with pressed in pins can be 0=B0 or =
3=B0).</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D455354617-10032015><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: #0000ff; FONT-SIZE: small"=20
data-mce-style=3D"color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" =
face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2" color=3D"#0000ff">"...the lower trunnion =
should rotate=20
around the bolt..." If I understand what you mean, I don't believe this =
is=20
correct : the trunnion bolt is clamping the distance pieces (short =
pieces of=20
steel tube that slide over the bolt and rotate in the outer wishbone =
bushings)=20
onto the trunnion and hence the bolt, trunnion and distance pieces =
should rotate=20
together and only the wishbones can rotate in respect to the bolt (and =
trunnion=20
and distance pieces). I have assembled the suspension in this way, =
eliminating=20
thus the play of the trunnion on the bolt and this is the reason I had =
to drill=20
new holes , more to the rear, in order to get the upperr end of the =
uprights=20
between the outer ends of the upper wishbones. All parts and also the =
chassis=20
seem to be all right. Maybe I get it wrong anyway with the assembling of =
the=20
suspension parts</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D455354617-10032015><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: #0000ff; FONT-SIZE: small"=20
data-mce-style=3D"color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" =
face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2" color=3D"#0000ff">Marcel.</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D455354617-10032015><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: #0000ff; FONT-SIZE: small"=20
data-mce-style=3D"color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" =
face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2" color=3D"#0000ff"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D455354617-10032015><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: #0000ff; FONT-SIZE: small"=20
data-mce-style=3D"color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" =
face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2" =
color=3D"#0000ff"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: #0000ff; FONT-SIZE: small"=20
data-mce-style=3D"color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" =
face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2" color=3D"#0000ff"></SPAN><BR>
<DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Dnl class=3DOutlookMessageHeader align=3Dleft>
<HR>
<SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; FONT-SIZE: small"=20
data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: small;" =
face=3D"Tahoma"=20
size=3D"2"><B>Van:</B> Jack Wheeler [mailto:jwheeler1947@yahoo.com]=20
<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> zondag 8 maart 2015 23:40<BR><B>Aan:</B> Van =
Mulders=20
Marcel<BR><B>Onderwerp:</B> Re: [Fot] TR4A front=20
suspension.<BR></SPAN><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff; FONT-FAMILY: helveticaneue, helvetica =
neue, helvetica, arial, lucida grande, sans-serif; COLOR: #000; =
FONT-SIZE: 16px">
<DIV dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10469>Do you have the =
TR-4A uprights=20
and trunions? The TR-4A trunion is just the brass piece that fits =
in=20
between the lower wishbone arms and a bolt slides through it, instead of =
the=20
fulcrum pin (pressed into the trunion), as you would have had on your=20
TR-3. The lower trunion should rotate on the bolt, and the =
wishbone arm=20
bushings. There is a left and right hand, and when properly =
installed, you=20
should have about 3 degrees of positive castor on both sides. I =
raced a=20
TR-4A for 25 years, so I know the suspension intimately! Good =
luck.</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10468> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10467>Jack<BR></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10363><SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: helveticaneue, helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, =
lucida grande, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 16px"=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10335>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: helveticaneue, helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, =
lucida grande, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 16px"=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10334>
<DIV dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10333>
<HR SIZE=3D1>
<SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small"=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10466=20
data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" face=3D"Arial"=20
size=3D"2"><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Van =
Mulders Marcel=20
via Fot <fot@autox.team.net><BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> fot@autox.team.net =
<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, March 8, 2015 5:35=20
PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Fot] =
TR4A front=20
suspension.<BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10340 class=3Dy_msg_container>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv2435760872>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10339>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10338><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10337 =
class=3Dyiv2435760872733024020-08032015><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small" =
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10336=20
data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2">In=20
June 2014 I bought Bob Kramer's TR4A racecar after I crashed my TR3 at =
the=20
Zandvoort circuit (The Netherlands). It's a great car and it will get =
better. Of=20
my TR3, I only kept the engine and overdrive dogbox Overhauling =
the front=20
suspension, I found that the lower trunnion was moving on the bolt =
instead of=20
the bushed lower wishbones : the distance pieces in the wishbones where =
shorter=20
than original, so the trunnion was not clamped by these distance pieces =
when=20
fastening the bolt. Correcting this, the upright has less play now, only =
a=20
little in the trunnion, and this upright with balljoint can't be forced =
anymore=20
between the outer ends of the upper wihbones, the balljoint is 1/2" too =
far to=20
the rear. Turning the upper wishbones to the rear (by moving the fulcrum =
pin)=20
isn't a good option, because binding will occur. I've drilled new holes =
for the=20
brackets for the inner ends of the lower wishbones : the suspension is =
moving=20
without any binding now but I don't know if I will leave it like that. I =
wonder=20
if something is wrong with the uprights? (less than 3=B0 caster?) If I =
measure the=20
caster, I find 2.2=B0 on both sides, but probably that isn't proving =
anything. The=20
chassis is as new, no damage. Any idea's someone?</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10343><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10342 =
class=3Dyiv2435760872733024020-08032015><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small" =
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10341=20
data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" face=3D"Arial"=20
size=3D"2">Another question : trying to get at zero bump steer, the best =
I get at=20
by moving the steering rack is a J : the wheels are toeing in when =
lowered more=20
than 3 cm below ride height (minimal to 5cm, then more and more toe in). =
Bending=20
the steering arms to the outside, almost touching the brake disks now, =
has=20
straightened the J a little. Is it possible to eliminate the bump =
steer=20
completely, or have we(TR4A-TR6) to accept some bump steer in the least=20
important part of the suspension travel?</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1425815565626_10407><SPAN=20
class=3Dyiv2435760872733024020-08032015><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small"=20
data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" face=3D"Arial"=20
size=3D"2">Marcel.</SPAN></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV><=
/DIV></DIV></DIV><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
------=_NextPart_000_0155_01D05F13.9E9F1EF0--
--===============4060237578739898250==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
_______________________________________________
fot@autox.team.net
http://www.fot-racing.com
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
--===============4060237578739898250==--
|