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Subject: Re: [Fot] TR? Could hurt your eyes
From: Bill Babcock via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 07:34:23 -1000
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I stuck a Toyota 2TG motor into my first TR3, which later became my =
total cheater TR3 with a more original drivetrain stuck back in. the =
Triyota was a pleasure to drive, and had the added advantage of always =
getting me back home, and never scattering bits of the gearbox =
everywhere. Five speed gearbox was pretty cool too, but former owners of =
=E2=80=9Creal=E2=80=9D Triumph (none of whom had a Triumph anymore) =
would puke when I opened the hood.=20

Yes, I=E2=80=99m back. I thought all you guys had disappeared, but it =
turned out it was me. A little email problem.=20

I don=E2=80=99t remember if I showed you folks my new shop. This is a =
website I=E2=80=99m building=E2=80=94very slowly. Spending too much time =
in the water.

http://www.ponostyle.com/garage-porn/ =
<http://www.ponostyle.com/garage-porn/>


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> On Mar 6, 2015, at 6:20 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> I kind of like the concept, they just stopped a little short.  Picture =
the same car with some box flairs covering the tires, some panasports =
instead of those wheels on there currently, and turbo 4 or 6 =
cylinder.......
> =20
> =20
> =20
> Amici...
> =20
> My instructor at the first Driver's School I ever attended was a guy =
named Hal Ulrich.  He was an ex-SCCA National Champion, and in fact had =
to be one of the first ever, because he raced in all of those early USA =
sports car races through the streets of Elkhart Lake and Watkins Glen.  =
He was a hired hot shoe, who drove for 'gentleman' sports car owners.  =
He was a great guy, but I drove him crazy because I couldn't double =
clutch during the sessions, and I was wearing out the synchros.  He and =
his brother Bill ran a 'speed shop' that, back in the day, catered to =
Chicago's 'Gold Coast' (Lake Forest, etc.) folks.  His life time =
experiences were full of exotic cars like Aston Martin, Bugatti, =
Excaliber, Ferrari, etc., but he had a special place in his heart for =
Triumphs (especially the TR2 and TR3).  He told me that in the mid to =
late 1950s they put tons of Chevy V8 engines in TR2s and TR3s.  He said =
they must have done forty or fifty of them.
> =20
> Hal is dead now, and I am not sure about Bill.  But these were two =
extremely interesting guys.  When they started telling tales, you would =
end up spell bound.  Bill's lifetime quest was the process of developing =
his own 'Bugatti-like' engine.  Not sure if it ever became a physical =
reality, but I know there was a bunch of people interested in it, and =
being involved financially.  One story Hal told me was about the time =
one of his customers bought one of the three Bugatti Royales.  Hal flew =
out to New Jersey to pick it up, and then drove it back to Chicago.  He =
said mechanically it made the trip with no problem whatsoever, except =
that it was the dead of winter, and the car had no heater (at least no =
working heater).  Those three Royales  are now, arguably, the most =
valuable collector cars in the world.
> =20
> I am rambling, but my point was that even back in the late 1950s lots =
of people were modifying TR3s.  That's my point, my position is, "Shame =
on them!"
> =20
> Bill Dentinger
>  =20
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class=3D"">I stuck a Toyota 2TG motor into my first TR3, which later =
became my total cheater TR3 with a more original drivetrain stuck back =
in. the Triyota was a pleasure to drive, and had the added advantage of =
always getting me back home, and never scattering bits of the gearbox =
everywhere. Five speed gearbox was pretty cool too, but former owners of =
=E2=80=9Creal=E2=80=9D Triumph (none of whom had a Triumph anymore) =
would puke when I opened the hood.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Yes, I=E2=80=99m back. I thought all =
you guys had disappeared, but it turned out it was me. A little email =
problem.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I=
 don=E2=80=99t remember if I showed you folks my new shop. This is a =
website I=E2=80=99m building=E2=80=94very slowly. Spending too much time =
in the water.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><a=
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class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Mar 6, 2015, at 6:20 AM, Bill Dentinger =
via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
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class=3D""><blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 3px; border-left-color: =
blue; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;" class=3D"">I =
kind of like the concept, they just stopped a little short.&nbsp; =
Picture the same car with some box flairs covering the tires, some =
panasports instead of those wheels on there currently, and turbo 4 =
or&nbsp;6 cylinder.......
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<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">Amici...</div>

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class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">My instructor&nbsp;at the first Driver's School I ever =
attended was a guy named Hal Ulrich.&nbsp; He was an ex-SCCA National =
Champion, and in fact had to be one of the first ever, because&nbsp;he =
raced in all of those early USA sports car races through the streets of =
Elkhart Lake and Watkins Glen.&nbsp; He was a hired hot shoe, who drove =
for 'gentleman' sports car owners.&nbsp; He was a great guy, but I drove =
him crazy because I couldn't double clutch during the sessions, and I =
was wearing out the synchros.&nbsp; He and his brother Bill ran a 'speed =
shop' that, back in the day, catered to Chicago's 'Gold Coast' (Lake =
Forest, etc.) folks.&nbsp; His life time experiences were full of exotic =
cars like Aston Martin, Bugatti, Excaliber,&nbsp;Ferrari, etc., but he =
had&nbsp;a special place in his heart for Triumphs (especially the TR2 =
and TR3).&nbsp; He told me that in the mid to late 1950s they put tons =
of Chevy V8 engines in TR2s and TR3s.&nbsp; He said they must have done =
forty or fifty of them.</div>

<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">Hal is dead now, and I am not sure about Bill.&nbsp; But =
these were two extremely interesting guys.&nbsp; When they started =
telling tales, you would end up spell bound.&nbsp;&nbsp;Bill's lifetime =
quest was the&nbsp;process of developing his own 'Bugatti-like' =
engine.&nbsp; Not sure if it ever became a physical&nbsp;reality, but I =
know there was a bunch of people interested in it, and being involved =
financially.&nbsp;&nbsp;One story&nbsp;Hal told me was about the time =
one of his customers bought one of the three Bugatti Royales.&nbsp; Hal =
flew out to New Jersey to pick it up, and then drove it back to =
Chicago.&nbsp; He said mechanically it made the trip with =
no&nbsp;problem whatsoever, except that it was the dead of winter, and =
the car had no heater&nbsp;(at least&nbsp;no working heater).&nbsp; =
Those three Royales&nbsp; are now, arguably, the most valuable collector =
cars in the world.</div>

<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">I am rambling, but my point was that even back in the late =
1950s lots of people were modifying TR3s.&nbsp; That's my point, my =
position is, "Shame on them!"</div>

<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">Bill Dentinger</div>

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