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Re: [Fot] aftermarket crank dampeners and pullies for TR4's

To: Robert Deanes <rfdeanes@gmail.com>,malaboge@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] aftermarket crank dampeners and pullies for TR4's
From: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com> mail.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:13:53 -0600
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I'm using the Ken Gillanders setup - it appears to be the same that 
Moss sells.  I've certainly not had a (another) failure, but will be 
going to the ATI setup most likely.

Tony Drews

At 08:13 AM 12/4/2013, Robert Deanes wrote:
>I also use the "Ken Glanders" part with no problems, drilled a couple of
>line up points to see if the part moves within itself.....all is good so
>far and the parts is six years old now....but not 500 $....I check the line
>up of the holes before every race....can't afford the holes in the block !
>
>
>On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:41 AM, <malaboge@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Fot Folkes,
> >
> > Get the dampener directly from ATI.
> >
> > I tend to twist the TR4 well over 7K on a regular basis.  I tried the
> > harmonic
> > balancer from the usual sources (the one with the rubber insert...I think
> > its
> > a 3 main MGB clone) and broke a crank first time out!
> > I then designed and supplied the blueprints for the dampener that ATI sells
> > for the TR4 motor and gave them the rights to sell it freely so that it
> > would
> > be available to all.  My original design had recessed tapered style bolts
> > on
> > the front so that the heads are even with the front of the dampener in
> > order
> > to allow for the maximum clearance to the rack.  Perhaps ATI has changed
> > that
> > aspect and if so, ask for the original setup.  I've never had any issue
> > with
> > the clearance to the rack, but I do run a "limited movement" trans mount.
> > Also, the timing marks should have been "dead on" to the olde pointer,
> > never
> > had an issue there.
> >
> > a little unbalanced myself...
> > Nick in Nor Cal
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: toodamnfunky <toodamnfunky@comcast.net>
> > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 10:14 am
> > Subject: [Fot] aftermarket crank dampeners and pullies for TR4's
> >
> >
> > FoT
> >
> > I have the Moss B= pulley and belt conversion with the rubber joint on the
> > crank pulley/dampener.
> >
> > Kas warned me at Elkhart lake that these can separate and with that I would
> > like to explore higher quality
> >
> > crank dampeners. We installed an ATI super damper on Mark Edenbs car and
> > there are three things about it I donbt like.
> >
> >     1. Cost + $ 500.00
> >     2. They are not clocked correctly for the TR4 and a new timing pointer
> > needs to be fitted in a less than ideal position.
> >     3. With the engine installed there is only B<b clearance to the
> > steering
> > rack.
> >
> >
> >
> > B
> >
> > So with that I have been looking at OEM and aftermarket dampeners/balancers
> > for other cars but I just donbt know
> >
> > enough about machining to determine if it would be worth trying to machine
> > a
> > balancer from another make to fit the TR4.
> >
> > B
> >
> > While on the subject of pullies in general Ibm wondering what others have
> > done with non-Triumph parts.
> >
> > I would prefer a serpentine belt. I know I could fit a good quality
> > tensioner
> > but still stuck on fitting non-triumph pullies
> >
> > to the TR-4.
> >
> > Can anyone advise on this subject ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > jim g
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