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Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket

To: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket
From: Yahoo <tylerpthompson@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:06:17 -0700
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The car came with a new steel gasket. I will take some measurements to see how
thick it is.

Thanks Tony

Ty

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'63 Triumph TR4 DP Racecar
'62 Triumph TR4 RestoMod (Project)
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On Nov 24, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com> wrote:

> You can't really "grind back" the composite gasket and still have it seal.
You need to gingerly uncrimp the sandwich around the valve pocket, then cut
back the inner asbestos-like material, then gingerly recrimp the two copper
sides back together.  It's easy to tear the copper in the process.
>
> Tony
>
> At 09:59 AM 11/24/2012, Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I pulled the head off of mine a few mons back. If folks recall, I broke 7
of 8 tops of the outer valve springs and one inner.  I am fixing that and
checking geometry.
>>
>> I do have oversized valves and 89 bore, and I found my Payen A330 gasket
was burnt where the gasket was not ground back.  My sleeves are not ground
back as well.
>>
>> Can you grind back the copper Payen gasket with no issues? I will be
feathering back the sleeves as well.
>>
>> Also, does anyone know the correct valve spring height?
>>
>> Thx
>>
>> Ty
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>> (Please excuse any errors or typos)
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Joe Alexander <n197tr4@cs.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Ditto...Using Payen for several years now and has been one less thing to
worry
>> > about.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Joe Alexander
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket
>> >
>> >
>> > Like Tony we use a stock Payen gasket notched to fit the larger valve
with no
>> > problem. My take is that one must make sure the head & block are flat &
true
>> > &
>> > properly installed.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I use a stock composite gasket and will get a season out of it.  I was
at
>> > about 0.175 milled, am now at 0.130 after my last head gasket problem
turned
>> > out to be a collapsing combustion chamber in the head problem.  I don't
have
>> > giant valves (they clear the 87 mm liners), so I notched the liner to
match
>> > the "mickey ear" of the stock gasket so there was something supporting it
on
>> > one side in the pocket that disappeared.  I put the seam side against
the
>> > liner then.
>> >>
>> >> Tony Drews
>> >>
>> >> At 12:18 PM 11/10/2012, KENMUN@aol.com wrote:
>> >>> anyone having success with the stock composite head gasket on a milled
>> >>> head. my head has been milled .150" and the intake valve pockets are
gone.
>> > i'm
>> >>> not having much luck with the steel gasket.
>> >>> thanks, ken m. tr 3 vintage racer.
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