Rocky, in PA if the van has windows, it's a car. If not it's a truck with
higher priced tags.
We always went for window vans!
Bill----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Entriken" <rocky@spitfire4.com>
To: "Bill Babcock" <Billb@bnj.com>; <fpspitfire@comcast.net>
Cc: <Fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] towing and DOT
> The first thing the trooper is going to do is eyeball what it APPEARS
you
> are doing, and if it APPEARS commercial he may stop and check you out.
>
> Hauling a Spitfire on an open single-axle trailer behind an automobile
> (originally; behind a van* the past many years) I never created that
image,
> although I did get stopped once in connection with a curious Kansas
law --
> trailers under 2000 lbs loaded weight are not required to have tags. But
> mine looked as if it might be over 2M.
> Trooper (very politely): "You know you're required to have a tag on that
> trailer."
> Myself (very innocently): "But officer, the car only weights 1405 lbs, I
can
> show you in the rulebook, and the trailer's only 500."
> Trooper (very gently): "Well, I guess you know what you're talking
about."
> And he went back to his car and drove off.
>
> We won't get into how much overweight my car is. :-) But soon after I
went
> to a local TV shop and bought one of those tags that say "KANSAS - Under
> 2M." Never had a problem since. Not even in other states.
>
> * Another Kansas quirk -- a van used as personal transportation is a car
and
> carries car tags; a van used commercially is a truck and wears truck
tags.
> Mine has car tags, of course.
>
> --Rocky Entriken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Babcock" <Billb@bnj.com>
> To: <fpspitfire@comcast.net>
> Cc: <Fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] towing and DOT
>
>
> >I only wish the regulations were consistently enforced and perhaps a
bit
> >more rational. The idea that someone can go to an RV store and buy a
rig
> >that weighs more than 20,000 pounds and drive off without special
training
> >is disconcerting. For that matter the idea that I don't need any
special
> >training or licensing to hook a 34 foot airstream up to my F350 and
drive
> >all over the country seems absurd. I'm pretty sure everyone that tows
> >their car to the track has had one of those moments when you realize
that
> >you're driving a very compromised vehicle.
> >
> > On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:47 AM, fpspitfire@comcast.net wrote:
> >
> >> A couple years ago the MazdaTrix guys were headed to runoffs and had
> >> their
> >> Toterhome/trailer impounded at a DOT inspection station in Arizona
for
> >> not
> >> complying with the regs.B The rig wasn't released until a licensed
> >> commercial
> >> driver showed up to take it away.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There is a big gray area with racers tow vehicles and the
requirements.B
> >> Certainly in the SCCA world because of contingencies it is considered
> >> commercial.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I think someone else was hit for violating the per axle weight on a
> >> toter on
> >> the Pennsylvania turnpike.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The regs are too confusing for me.B I'll keep the 16' trailer and
> >> explorer to
> >> tow with
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> aaron johnson
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