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Re: [Fot] Engine Problem

To: "Gary Horstkorta" <vintage.racer@comcast.net>, <Fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Engine Problem
From: "RACER BUD" <budscars@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:00:58 -0700
do you have any sign of water in the oil?
Racer Bud
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Horstkorta" <vintage.racer@comcast.net>
To: <Fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:45 PM
Subject: [Fot] Engine Problem


> Hello:
>
>
>
> OK, here's a TR4 engine situation I'd like to receive some feedback on.
> During the winter layoff, no major engine changes just routine 
> maintenance.
> Engine always started quickly and ran smoothly up and down rpm range while
> in the garage.  However, at this past weekend's vintage race at Infineon
> Raceway, I encountered the following:
>
>
>
> 1.       Saturday's first practice session, the car began hesitating at
> 4,000rpm and reluctantly would edge its way up to 5,000.  Engine oil
> pressure and water temp normal
>
> 2.       In paddock, checked fuel pressure with a gauge, it was high at 
> 3.0
> lbs for my 1.75" stock SU carbs.  Reset to 2.0.
>
> 3.       Saturday's race, same problems.  Checked fuel level in carb at 
> the
> needle jet orifice without the "dome" on and fuel pump running.  Level was
> uneven, one carb flooding the other low.  Reset floats so even fuel level
> just below the orifice opening.
>
> 4.       Sunday morning practice the problem was worse and now the engine
> would almost die around left hand turns but run strong around right hand
> turns.  Checked everything from fuel pickup in fuel cell all the way up
> through the carbs, all seemed OK.  However, the car would barely start, 
> run
> badly then die.
>
> 5.       Out of desperation we turned to the ignition system which is
> Mallory dual point dizzy and coil.  Replaced coil - no change; replaced
> plugs - no change; checked timing - OK; replaced distributor with stock
> Lucas, engine started and ran fine.  Huh??
>
> 6.       Road test up a steep hill at full throttle and down a road, no
> problem except acceleration was not crisp.
>
> 7.       Ran race and engine was steady around all corners but car was 
> down
> on power and after three laps, water temp was higher than it normally runs
> but stable at 200 degrees.  Four laps later sudden fluctuation of water 
> temp
> gauge meant I'd lost water.  Shut the engine off
>
> 8.       Towed pack to pit, able to start the car and put it into the
> trailer, running OK but with a "rattling" sound from the engine.
>
>
>
> Back in the garage, inspection of the valve train showed nothing obvious.
> Removed plugs which were all black and sooty, turned engine over by hand
> then by the starter, no obvious problems or sounds.  Ran a compression 
> test
> with the following numbers:  cylinder #1  160; #2  155;  #3   210;   #4
> 170.  Also noticed a different mechanical sound from down in the engine 
> when
> cranking for #3 compression test, not present when testing other 
> cylinders.
>
>
>
>
> OK, so that is where I am right now.  We (myself and two friends - one a
> long-time Triumph racer/builder and a the other a British car mechanic)
> initially felt this was a fuel problem, however, after the problem
> disappeared by changing the distributor, we're all a bit baffled.  Next 
> step
> is to remove the head and pan for inspection.  Anyone experience a similar
> set of problems, ie, seemingly a fuel problem but turns out to be
> electrical?  What would cause a dizzy to work around some turns and not 
> the
> other?  What would cause such a high number on cylinder #3?  Thanks.
>
>
>
> Gary
>
> 1962 TR4
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