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I love the guy, he actually makes sense and has some facts to back up
his position.
Great job on your goats and fuel. I looked around here for sources of
fryer oil to convert, but being Portland, everyone that uses a can of
crisco to make some fries has a biofuels guy waiting at their
doorstop. Biodiesel runs about a 50 cent premium here, and people buy
pretty much all of it they can get. Weird.
A few days ago I was driving behind an older Mercedes Diesel that was
fogging for bugs and emitting a smell like rancid french fries. Had
biodiesel stickers all over the bumper. I thought, "man, there's a guy
doing some great marketing for fuel diversification."
My friend Cameron Healy also puts his money where his mouth is,
driving a diesel newbug, investing in biofuel companies--and I think
it's great. Of course he used to own Kettle Chips, so fryer oil was
easy to come by.
I think whey is a welcome when you're milking 10 goats, but my friend
John Karamanos owns Sunshine Dairy, who make cottage cheese by the ton
every day. For them, whey is a problem.
On Sep 14, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Gasket Works USA wrote:
> It is intetersting... My wife has made a buisiness plan for a micro
> dairy (goat milk). The current trend to develop locally grown food
> stuffs is becoming more intriguing for a host of reasons. There are
> many articles in the NY times, WSJ and such. Between our neighbor
> and us we have about 10 goats milked twice daily. Our good
> producers make 8+ lbs of milk a day. Most make 1/2 that. The
> assorted milk products include yogurt, Feta and hard cheese
> (although these are much harder to make). Many of our friends trade
> home grown produce for whole raw milk, or pasturized milk.
>
> So, sky photons come down and allow the the chloroplasts to
> convert some green house Gases (CO2) to sugars and cellulose. the
> Goats eat the converted photons and make milk. The milk is then
> converted to Feta and the byproduct is fermented to make alcohol
> eventually and they cycle continues.
>
> Oh, The whey protein is not bad stuff it may look greenish but,
> tastes good. Organic growers like this stuff for its nitrogen
> content.....fertilizer.
>
> Proud owner of 1979 Peugeot diesel that can run on 100 biodiesel
> from Waste Taco VEgie oil. 40mpg easy.
> I put on extra large rolling radius tires to keep the Rpms low and
> short shift. Slow but, oh so much fun. Oh, and btw.. verrry
> comfortable suspension.
>
> Proud owner of 2008 Honda GX CNG 30-40mpg equiv. ( I wish lived in
> UTAh... CNG about .070cents/Gallon Equiv there)
>
> Pickens maybe biased but, I like him.
>
>
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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I love the guy, he actually =
makes sense and has some facts to back up his =
position. <div><br></div><div>Great job on your goats and fuel. I =
looked around here for sources of fryer oil to convert, but being =
Portland, everyone that uses a can of crisco to make some fries =
has a biofuels guy waiting at their =
doorstop. Biodiesel runs about a 50 cent premium here, and =
people buy pretty much all of it they can get. =
Weird. </div><div><br></div><div>A few days ago I was driving =
behind an older Mercedes Diesel that was fogging for bugs =
and emitting a smell like rancid french fries. Had biodiesel =
stickers all over the bumper. I thought, "man, there's a guy doing some =
great marketing for fuel diversification."</div><div><br></div><div>My =
friend Cameron Healy also puts his money where his mouth is, driving a =
diesel newbug, investing in biofuel companies--and I think it's great. =
Of course he used to own Kettle Chips, so fryer oil was easy to come =
by. </div><div><br></div><div>I think whey is a welcome when you're =
milking 10 goats, but my friend John Karamanos owns Sunshine Dairy, who =
make cottage cheese by the ton every day. For them, whey is a =
problem. </div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 14, 2008, =
at 9:25 AM, Gasket Works USA wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"1" color=3D"#000000" =
letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0">It is intetersting... My wife =
has made a buisiness plan for a micro dairy (goat milk). The =
current trend to develop locally grown food stuffs is becoming more =
intriguing for a host of reasons. There are many articles in the NY =
times, WSJ and such. Between our neighbor and us we =
have about 10 goats milked twice daily. Our good producers make 8+ =
lbs of milk a day. Most make 1/2 that. The assorted =
milk products include yogurt, Feta and hard cheese (although these are =
much harder to make). Many of our friends trade home grown produce =
for whole raw milk, or pasturized milk. =
</font></div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"1" color=3D"#000000" =
letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0"><br></font><div align=3D"LEFT"><font =
face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"1" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" =
kerning=3D"0">So, sky photons come down and allow the the =
chloroplasts to convert some green house Gases (CO2) to =
sugars and cellulose. the Goats eat the converted photons and make =
milk. The milk is then converted to Feta and the byproduct is =
fermented to make alcohol eventually and they cycle =
continues. </font></div><font =
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kerning=3D"0"><br></font><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" =
size=3D"1" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0">Oh, The =
whey protein is not bad stuff it may look greenish but, tastes =
good. Organic growers like this stuff for its nitrogen =
content.....fertilizer. </font></div><font face=3D"Verdana" =
size=3D"1" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" =
kerning=3D"0"><br></font><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" =
size=3D"1" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0">Proud =
owner of 1979 Peugeot diesel that can run on 100 biodiesel from Waste =
Taco VEgie oil. 40mpg easy.</font></div><div align=3D"LEFT"><font =
face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"1" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" =
kerning=3D"0">I put on extra large rolling radius tires to keep the Rpms =
low and short shift. Slow but, oh so much fun. Oh, and btw.. =
verrry comfortable suspension. </font></div><div =
align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"1" color=3D"#000000" =
letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0"> </font></div><div =
align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"1" color=3D"#000000" =
letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0">Proud owner of 2008 Honda GX CNG =
30-40mpg equiv. ( I wish lived in UTAh... CNG about =
.070cents/Gallon Equiv there)</font></div><font face=3D"Verdana" =
size=3D"1" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" =
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size=3D"1" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0">Pickens =
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