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I think that the kerbs (curbs) should be made more penal in those areas
because they are supposed to be there to keep the cars within the confines
of the track. If they raised the level of the kerbs, people would not be so
aggressive in trying to pass knowing that if they don't pull it off, they
will lose their suspension.
Joe
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From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Bill Babcock
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:58 AM
To: Bill Babcock
Cc: fot@autox.Team.Net; fubog1@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] OT- F1 at Spa online petition
Incidentally, I don't think Kimi was wrong to shove Hamilton off the track
in the chicane either. In a competition at that level you are not owed
racing room, you have to take it. If Alonso had been in Kimi's shoes
Hamilton would have lost his right front wheel.
On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Bill Babcock wrote:
Great race, torturous ending. I also consider Hamilton's moves to be
perfectly proper.
I AM a Kimi fan, he's a great driver, I was cheering him on while he passed
Hamilton at first and then pulled out a lead, and I was in agony when he
first lost the lead and then hit the wall. But Hamilton's pass was squeaky
clean. I can't see how the FIA could even countenance a penalty. It was
spectacular driving, well within the cut and thrust of competition and in
full compliance with the rules of surrendering a gain made off track. I
believe the FIA has added an element of over-regulation and fundamental
unfairness to the entire F1 scene. I don't care if Max Mosely dresses up
like Eva Braun and screws goats, but his leadership of the FIA has damaged
the sport by moving victory from the driver's seat to the steward's fat ass.
For that I'd support giving him the boot.
On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:13 AM, fubog1@aol.com wrote:
Well certainly there are those who hold that opinion, not least of all
the FIA... but... the facts remain that he DID give up the position to
Kimi, I don't think there is a specified distance for the lead, and
this was confirmed with both the team & race officials at the time.
I watched the race, and the replay of the last 3 laps at least a dozen
times, and I can't see how he put Kimi out. Also consider the dry tires
& wet track conditions.
Personaly I thought that it was a fine example of driving since he was
well alongside Kimi when he went off; the alternative being that he
would surely have taken both of them out of the race, had he not gone
off course.
I also understand that there are some who just don't favor
Hamilton/McClaren, evidenced by some of the politics and "soap opera"
issues of late...
I respect your opinion
Thank you!
Glen
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry <spitlist@cox.net>
To: fubog1@aol.com; fot@autox.Team.Net
Sent: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:47 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] OT- F1 at Spa online petition
I will NOT sign that petition. The way I saw the situation, while
Hamilton
did back off a bit and allow Kimi to get back in front, he did not back
off
enough to give up his inertia and maintained it long enough to
immediately
get back in the lead.
In my humble opinion, the penalty is just. His Rookie actions caused
Kimi
to crash out and that does nothing to erase that outcome.
I would have black flagged Hamilton and not even allowed him to claim
3rd
place. That would have been justice in my opinion.
Joe C.
-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of fubog1@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:42 AM
To: fot@autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Fot] OT- F1 at Spa online petition
I realize that a lot of you were busy last Sunday, and probably didn't
catch the Spa race, and on-line petitions have questionable value, but
this is one that may be worthy...
Last night there were approx 15,000, this morning nearly 50,000. There
are a lot of pissed off F1 fans!
http://www.petitiononline.com/belgp08/petition.html
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a fine example of driving since he was <br>
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Thank you!<br>
Glen<br>
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From: Joe Curry <<a =
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To: <a href=3D"mailto:fubog1@aol.com";>fubog1@aol.com</a>; <a
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.Team.Net";>fot@autox.Team.Net</a><br>
Sen<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">t</st1:PersonName>: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 =
10:47 am<br>
Subjec<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">t</st1:PersonName>: Re: =
[Fo<st1:PersonName
w:st=3D"on">t</st1:PersonName>] OT- F1 a<st1:PersonName =
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I will NOT sign <st1:PersonName =
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si<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">t</st1:PersonName>ua<st1:PersonName =
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did back off a bi<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">t</st1:PersonName> and =
allow Kimi <st1:PersonName
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back in fron<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">t</st1:PersonName>, he did =
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off<br>
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ge<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">t</st1:PersonName> back in <st1:PersonName =
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lead.<br>
<br>
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w:st=3D"on">t</st1:PersonName>.
His Rookie ac<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">t</st1:PersonName>ions =
caused <br>
Kimi<br>
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have been
jus<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">t</st1:PersonName>ice in my opinion.<br>
<br>
Joe C.<br>
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To: <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.Team.Net";>fot@autox.Team.Net</a><br>
Subjec<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">t</st1:PersonName>: [Fo<st1:PersonName =
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