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As Jeff pointed out, it's Labor Day, not Memorial day. I get those two
confused all the time.
Portland International Raceway is an interesting track from a
technical standpoint, and the CRC is a good race. The track was
repaved last year and some corners were changed a bit. You won't find
better pavement anywhere. It's easy to run large-scale races there.
PIR is right on the MAX line (rapid transit trains), so significant
others are not stuck at the track--they can go into Portland with
minimal effort, and Portland is one of the most accessible cities in
the US. Very compact--you can walk anywhere in downtown. Having been
pretty much all over the world and especially all over North America I
assert that Portland has restaurants, street food, taverns and
specialty food (like artiisan bread, great bakeries, etc) to rival or
surpass any city, including places like Paris, New York City and San
Francisco. You simply can't find better beer, and our Pinot's stack up
to the best.
SOVREN is very strict about racing classifications for it's members,
but more flexible for outsiders. I'm sure I can work with them to
ensure that anyone that wants to come can race. I'm also pretty sure I
can get an all-triumph race. The CRC has plenty of track time--it runs
Friday through Monday with Thursday usually available as an
inexpensive test and tune day through the Lotus Club. You can wear
yourself and your car out at the CRC.
The All British Field Meet runs the same weekend in the same venue
(yes, there are sometimes some space problems but we can overflow to
the Pro Pits which are nicer for camping anyway). They have car shows,
autojumbles, and a big vendor area. It's a well-attended show that
draws from car clubs all over the coast. There is a short on-track
autocross that's kind of a PIA, but I'd like to set up a better and
longer running autocross in the propit area--we've done that before.
I think PIR is kind of ideal as a west coast venue for the Kastner
Cup. Seattle (Pacific Raceways) is too far from other facilities--it's
in Kent, Washington--and the major race is the Northwest Historics,
which is a pretty crowded event. The Portland Historics is an HMSA
event, and they're hard to work with on car classifications.
Thunderhill is a wonderful track, but it's east of nowhere. Sears
(Infinion) is fabulous and wonderful Sonoma is close by, but the only
likely event is the CSRG Charity Challenge and it's often filled. CSRG
is an excellent organization, but they might be a bit tough on car
classification. I'm not sure any of the SCCA cars would be allowed to
run. Laguna is too restricted--they don't have many dates anymore.
We'd all need sand filters for Willows.
The only limitation at PIR is noise--you'd all need mufflers.
It's not too early to start planning. How do we get this going?
On Sep 9, 2008, at 8:35 PM, Chasgee@aol.com wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Funny you should mention those two venues, because I was discussing
> this with some So Cal brethren and we came to the same conclusions.
> It is the West coast's turn again and I think Portland would be
> fantastic. Let me know if I can help organize this.
>
> Chuck Gee
> Blacksmith Racing
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Babcock <Billb@bnj.com>
> To: Henry Frye <henry@henryfrye.com>
> Cc: fot@autox.team.net
> Sent: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:55 am
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Our weekend at the Glen
>
> I'm thinking it's time for the left coast. Maybe Thunderhill? It's a
> hell of a track, though the surrounding facilities suck. Portland
> would be great, the Columbia River Classic is the weekend before
> this SVRA race (Memorial day weekend), and it's a high-track time
> event. Most folks are sick of racing by the time the Monday races
> roll around. it also encompasses the All British Field Meet which a
> lot of Triumph folks attend as well.
>
> I know I could get SOVREN to roll out the red carpet for FOT since I
> helped to give this race a boost a few years ago. The Saturday at-
> track party is legenday, an opportunity to get out your vintage
> duds, and I can commit to a pretty cool FOT party at Casa Babcock.
>
> On Sep 9, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Henry Frye wrote:
>
>> We came, we raced, we marked our territory with our racecars. Some
>> more
>> than others.
>>
>> We hung out with TS 1 LO, parked under thI'm thinking it's time for
>> the left coast. e tent with the beer. What were
>> they thinking. Anything could have happened. Nothing happened... I
>> think.
>>
>> We shared some special moments remembering uncle jack.
>>
>> Many of us were able to put faces with familiar names. Before I just
>> knew the names. Now I have faces in my brain so I will forget all
>> your
>> names. Sorry, that's just how it works.
>>
>> My car rose to the occasion. First, somehow it became the poster
>> child
>> for the event, landing on the front page of the local daily
>> newspaper on
>> Saturday.
>>
>> Then it drove into the paddock hemorrhaging oil from every orifice
>> after
>> the All Triumph Race, but I achieved a few lofty personal goals in
>> the
>> process.
>>
>> Then on the start of the Group 3 race my car pulled me down the
>> inside
>> line to pass a bunch of guys in turn one, then I passed the start/
>> finish
>> line in third overall a couple times. Running way up there in a SVRA
>> feature race is something I never thought I would do. Then the
>> track got
>> a little slick from rain and I backed off a bit, I will never be a
>> brave
>> rain driver. Too much to lose, nothing to gain. Still finished
>> well, no
>> complaints there.
>>
>> There was less attrition than I expected over the course of the
>> weekend,
>> at least until Sunday. It was nice to spend time with our friends
>> sitting on chairs with a beer in hand, not under cars requesting
>> wrenches and sockets.
>>
>> Many big names in our sport were there, both past and present, and
>> getting face time with them was a real treat.
>>
>> Congrats to Tony Garmey on winning the Kastner Cup. This was the
>> third
>> time I have seen the TR250K on track, it was always fast. This
>> weekend
>> it was amazing. During Kas' presentation of the cup, he said he has
>> not
>> seen the car go as fast since he ran it at Sebring in '68. He then
>> issued a manufacturers recall notice, but I think Tony is going to
>> take
>> his chances!
>>
>> Congrats to Larry Young for the Bill Ames Award, well deserved.
>>
>> The Western PA Triumph gang was there in force, as was a big
>> contingent
>> of New England Triumph folks. Bob Lang brought Khartu, his TR6
>> autocrosser for the folks to enjoy. Dave Hutchinson drove his
>> pristine
>> Italia. If I continue to try to mention all the special cars that
>> came
>> out to support the event I would miss several, I don't want to do
>> that.
>>
>> Many thanks to Jack Woehrle and the rest of SVRA for treating us
>> Triumph
>> folks better than we deserved. Jack was never too far from the
>> Triumph
>> ghetto, and made sure we got what we needed.
>>
>> So, it was a great weekend, sorry if you missed it... Where to next
>> year?
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">As Jeff pointed out, it's Labor =
Day, not Memorial day. I get those two confused all the =
time. <div><br></div><div>Portland International Raceway is an =
interesting track from a technical standpoint, and the CRC is a good =
race. The track was repaved last year and some corners were changed a =
bit. You won't find better pavement anywhere. It's easy to run =
large-scale races there. </div><div><br></div><div>PIR is right on =
the MAX line (rapid transit trains), so significant others are not stuck =
at the track--they can go into Portland with minimal effort, and =
Portland is one of the most accessible cities in the US. Very =
compact--you can walk anywhere in downtown. Having been pretty much all =
over the world and especially all over North America I assert that =
Portland has restaurants, street food, taverns and specialty food (like =
artiisan bread, great bakeries, etc) to rival or surpass any city, =
including places like Paris, New York City and San Francisco. You simply =
can't find better beer, and our Pinot's stack up to the =
best. </div><div><br></div><div>SOVREN is very strict about racing =
classifications for it's members, but more flexible for outsiders. I'm =
sure I can work with them to ensure that anyone that wants to come can =
race. I'm also pretty sure I can get an all-triumph race. The CRC has =
plenty of track time--it runs Friday through Monday with Thursday =
usually available as an inexpensive test and tune day through the Lotus =
Club. You can wear yourself and your car out at the =
CRC. </div><div><br></div><div>The All British Field Meet runs the =
same weekend in the same venue (yes, there are sometimes some space =
problems but we can overflow to the Pro Pits which are nicer for camping =
anyway). They have car shows, autojumbles, and a big vendor area. It's a =
well-attended show that draws from car clubs all over the coast. There =
is a short on-track autocross that's kind of a PIA, but I'd like to set =
up a better and longer running autocross in the propit area--we've done =
that before. </div><div><br></div><div>I think PIR is kind of ideal =
as a west coast venue for the Kastner Cup. Seattle (Pacific Raceways) is =
too far from other facilities--it's in Kent, Washington--and the major =
race is the Northwest Historics, which is a pretty crowded event. The =
Portland Historics is an HMSA event, and they're hard to work with on =
car classifications. Thunderhill is a wonderful track, but it's east of =
nowhere. Sears (Infinion) is fabulous and wonderful Sonoma is close by, =
but the only likely event is the CSRG Charity Challenge and it's often =
filled. CSRG is an excellent organization, but they might be a bit tough =
on car classification. I'm not sure any of the SCCA cars would be =
allowed to run. Laguna is too restricted--they don't have many dates =
anymore. We'd all need sand filters for =
Willows. </div><div><br></div><div>The only limitation at PIR is =
noise--you'd all need mufflers.</div><div><br></div><div>It's not too =
early to start planning. How do we get this =
going? </div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 9, 2008, at =
8:35 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:Chasgee@aol.com";>Chasgee@aol.com</a> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><wbr>Bill,<br> <br> Funny you should mention those two =
venues, because I was discussing this with some So Cal brethren and we =
came to the same conclusions. It is the West coast's turn again =
and I think Portland would be fantastic. Let me know if I can help =
organize this.<br> <br> Chuck Gee<br> Blacksmith Racing<br> <br> <br> =
<br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: Bill Babcock <<a =
href=3D"mailto:Billb@bnj.com";>Billb@bnj.com</a>><br> To: Henry Frye =
<<a href=3D"mailto:henry@henryfrye.com";>henry@henryfrye.com</a>><br> =
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><br> =
Sent: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:55 am<br> Subject: Re: [Fot] Our weekend at the =
Glen<br> <br> <div =
id=3D"AOLMsgPart_3_0929c2c4-e994-49ea-b6e6-a0f51d20d9bb">I'm thinking =
it's time for the left coast. Maybe Thunderhill? It's a hell of a track, =
though the surrounding facilities suck. Portland would be great, the =
Columbia River Classic is the weekend before this SVRA race (Memorial =
day weekend), and it's a high-track time event. Most folks are sick of =
racing by the time the Monday races roll around. it also encompasses the =
All British Field Meet which a lot of Triumph folks attend as =
well. <div><br> </div> <div>I know I could get SOVREN to roll out =
the red carpet for FOT since I helped to give this race a boost a few =
years ago. The Saturday at-track party is legenday, an opportunity to =
get out your vintage duds, and I can commit to a pretty cool FOT party =
at Casa Babcock. <br> <div> <div><br> </div> <div>On Sep 9, 2008, =
at 10:38 AM, Henry Frye wrote:</div> <br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <div>We =
came, we raced, we marked our territory with our racecars. Some more<br> =
than others.<br> <br> We hung out with TS 1 LO, parked under thI'm =
thinking it's time for the left coast. e tent with the beer. What =
were<br> they thinking. Anything could have happened. Nothing =
happened... I<br> think.<br> <br> We shared some special moments =
remembering uncle jack.<br> <br> Many of us were able to put faces with =
familiar names. Before I just<br> knew the names. Now I have faces in my =
brain so I will forget all your<br> names. Sorry, that's just how it =
works.<br> <br> My car rose to the occasion. First, somehow it became =
the poster child<br> for the event, landing on the front page of the =
local daily newspaper on<br> Saturday. <br> <br> Then it drove into the =
paddock hemorrhaging oil from every orifice after<br> the All Triumph =
Race, but I achieved a few lofty personal goals in the<br> process. <br> =
<br> Then on the start of the Group 3 race my car pulled me down the =
inside<br> line to pass a bunch of guys in turn one, then I passed the =
start/finish<br> line in third overall a couple times. Running way up =
there in a SVRA<br> feature race is something I never thought I would =
do. Then the track got<br> a little slick from rain and I backed off a =
bit, I will never be a brave<br> rain driver. Too much to lose, nothing =
to gain. Still finished well, no<br> complaints there.<br> <br> There =
was less attrition than I expected over the course of the weekend,<br> =
at least until Sunday. It was nice to spend time with our friends<br> =
sitting on chairs with a beer in hand, not under cars requesting<br> =
wrenches and sockets. <br> <br> Many big names in our sport were there, =
both past and present, and<br> getting face time with them was a real =
treat. <br> <br> Congrats to Tony Garmey on winning the Kastner Cup. =
This was the third<br> time I have seen the TR250K on track, it was =
always fast. This weekend<br> it was amazing. During Kas' presentation =
of the cup, he said he has not<br> seen the car go as fast since he ran =
it at Sebring in '68. He then<br> issued a manufacturers recall notice, =
but I think Tony is going to take<br> his chances!<br> <br> Congrats to =
Larry Young for the Bill Ames Award, well deserved. <br> <br> The =
Western PA Triumph gang was there in force, as was a big contingent<br> =
of New England Triumph folks. Bob Lang brought Khartu, his TR6<br> =
autocrosser for the folks to enjoy. Dave Hutchinson drove his =
pristine<br> Italia. If I continue to try to mention all the special =
cars that came<br> out to support the event I would miss several, I =
don't want to do that.<br> <br> Many thanks to Jack Woehrle and the rest =
of SVRA for treating us Triumph<br> folks better than we deserved. Jack =
was never too far from the Triumph<br> ghetto, and made sure we got what =
we needed.<br> <br> So, it was a great weekend, sorry if you missed =
it... Where to next<br> year?<br> =
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