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Re: [FOT] ignition systems

To: "Larry Young" <cartravel@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [FOT] ignition systems
From: "Scott Janzen" <S.Janzen@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 11:31:02 -0400
I just experienced an intermittent misfire during the last session of the 
weekend, and immediately assume that the problem is the Crane electronics. 
I am going to try to isolate the problem without throwing parts at it.  I am 
thinking I will go back to tradition as well.  Anyone know what Mallory unit 
is appropriate, what modifications I need to make, and have a coil 
recommendation?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Young" <cartravel@pobox.com>
To: "Jack W. Drews" <vinttr4@geneseo.net>
Cc: <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [FOT] ignition systems


> My only experience is with Pertronix.  I don't find these difficult to 
> diagnose.  Most of us old geezers that grew up with points automatically 
> assume the Ignitor has failed when we have ignition problems.  The first 
> thing they do is put points back in.  My first test is to attach a known 
> good spark plug directly to the coil.  This removes the rotor, cap, wires 
> and spark plug from the equation. If I get a spark on all cylinders, then 
> there is nothing wrong with the ignitor, so you can go on to check cap, 
> rotor, wires and spark plug.  If you get a spark on some, but not all 
> cylinders, then the magnetic ring is bad.  If you get no sparks, then the 
> Ignitor is not working.  I recently used this approach on my TR250 to 
> determine that one magnet in the magnetic ring was flipped over so the 
> wrong pole was facing outward.  This is the way it came out of the box.  I 
> suppose you could also have a bad coil.  My experience is that coils 
> seldom fail, but you could swap that out with a good one to confirm.
> Larry Young
>
> Jack W. Drews wrote:
>
>> I only have experience with three different electronic ignition systems, 
>> so I'm not an expert on them. The one thing they have is common, for me 
>> as a racer / user, is that when something goes wrong, it is hard to find 
>> what it is and usually impossible to fix, unless I have  whole redundant 
>> system along with me. If I have a conventional system, I can fix it with 
>> a continuity tester and a small supply of relatively cheap parts -- it's 
>> got to be the wire coming to the system, or the cap, rotor, points, 
>> condenser, or coil.
>>
>> I used an electronic ignition system in m race car for ten years and it 
>> worked okay, but when it did fail I had to put in a conventional 
>> distributor to find out if the brain box was bad. Likewise last week when 
>> my TR6 suddenly quit running and coasted to a stop -- I had no idea if 
>> the Prtronix quit or something else happened.
>>
>> uncle jack
>
>
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