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[FOT] Another tire possibility

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Subject: [FOT] Another tire possibility
From: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:02:28 -0500
In my quest to find a tire for my TR-4 that grips like the Hoosier 
TD, but lasts more than 10 heat cycles and costs less than $200 per 
tire, I tried Toyo Proxes RA-1's at Hallett.  These are 
205/50-15's.  They cost about $130 each.  What I had read about them 
is that they have decent grip, and last longer than most tires aimed 
at the racer crowd.  In the 11 or 12 sessions on the track at 
Hallett, I've worn a pair of them to half depth.  I'm hoping that my 
next race at Road America will even them out (the track turns mainly 
right where Hallett turned mainly left).  They seemed to have similar 
grip to the Hoosier TD.  At Road America I should get a better read 
because lap times will be more comparable.  At Hallett I turned times 
worse than the last time we were there several years ago, but similar 
to what Larry Young had turned in the past (both comparison times 
were on Hoosier Vintage TD's).  These are radials, and have a very 
progressive breakaway.  They don't do the grip, grip, oh s**t! that 
some radials do.  I did notice that if I got too exuberant on them 
they would grease up for a bit and I'd have to cool my jets for half 
a lap or so.  I bought them with full tread depth hoping to get 
maximum life out of them that way.  According to the writeups I've 
seen, you can get away with this if you take it somewhat easy on them 
until the tread starts to wear off.

I arrived at 34 front, 35 rear PSI starting pressure rather 
unscientifically.  I am running 3 degrees negative camber in the 
front for these tires (they want 2.5 to 5 degrees negative).

Since they are a 50 series tire, not all clubs accept them, 
unfortunately.  Some are sensitive to the difficulty in finding a 
good 15" 60 series tire and allow those running 15" wheels to use a 
50 series tire.

I've got a set of Speedsters in reserve for when I wear out the 
Proxes, so should be able to compare at some point in the 
year.  Hopefully, it will be late this year or early next year before 
I'll find out.  Given my experience with the Vintage TD, I don't 
really trust Hoosier to make a tire that will actually last more than 
two races but am hopeful that the Speedster will last 4 to 5 
races.  As a low budget racer, tire life is VERY important to me.

So far, I'm really happy with them but will know more about longevity 
later in the year.  They certainly last longer than the Vintage TD - 
I doubt I could have made it through Hallett on a set of those.  You 
are somewhat more controlled going through corners than with the 
Vintage TD's, but I expected more of a difference.  I was able to get 
comfortable with them right away.

- Tony Drews



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