Sounds very familiar except for the Hoosiers going away. I can still use
mine for about 20-30 track sessions. We do indeed need something like a 205
60 15. Most folks should be able to fit that.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-fot@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-fot@autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of BOB KRAMER
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:38 PM
To: Henry Frye; fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Tires for TR3 and TR4
Tires?
I'll summarize my experiences then shoot myself...
I started out on Yoke 008r's 195-60-15. They were great, made me think I was
great, and lasted all year. When the Yokes went away, I was forced into
Hoosiers 5.50-15's. They made me think I sucked so I tried some Dunlop
205-60-15 from Roger Kraus. I hated them, they pushed real bad after a
couple of laps, but truth be told I was just as fast on them as on the
Hoosiers. They were Gibraltar hard and they rubbed on the inside of the
fender lip and burned the paint. I gave up on them and went to the VinTD's
and gradually grew to like them. At the end of last year, just when I
started to approach my old Yoke lap times the Hoosiers went soft. I wore out
the rears in one weekend I wasn't a happy man. So I decided that the new car
would get 205-50-15's since my home group allows 50 series on 15" rims to
satisfy the 911 crowd, and there are some "price point" brands in that size.
I haven't finished the car yet, but I may raise it up a tad (OK 3 tads) and
try the Yoke 048 in 205-60-15. The Street TD's are not allowed in CVAR, but
that hasn't stopped some people from running them. They love them but they
too wear quickly.
We still need a 195-60-15 tire!
Bob Kramer
rkramer3@austin.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Henry Frye" <henry@henryfrye.com>
To: <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 7:19 AM
Subject: Tires for TR3 and TR4
> Hi gang,
>
> We had a fantastic time at Watkins Glen last weekend, when I get a moment
> I'll write a report. But more important things to ponder at the moment...
>
> After a trip to Bob Woodman Tires I found a set of Hoosier Vintage TD
> 5.5X15 cost me $885, including mounting, balancing and tax. It is well
> known that Hoosier changed the compound of our tire this year making it
> softer, and pretty much limiting it's life to less than 2 race weekends.
>
> So I started thinking. I think we have done plenty of upgrades to enhance
> the safety of our cars (the Southwick axle and front hubs, and the uprated
> spindles) so that our cars can safely handle different rubber.
>
> I talked to the TR racers at the Glen, and asked them what tire would we
> LIKE to run, then we should see if we can get Jack Woerle to approve it.
> Jeff Snook opened the door by chatting with Jack at the Saturday dinner,
> and Jack is open to a conversation about our tires.
>
> So, the ball is in our court. I would like a tire that meets any, but
> preferrably all, of these requirements. I want a tire that is faster,
> lasts longer and is cheaper than the Hooiser Vintage TD. I also want World
> Peace, and have similar expectations about our tire selections...
>
> I'm assuming Jack Woerle is going to stick to his guns on the requirement
> for a 60 series profile.
>
> Jeff and Randy Williams want a tire that will fit under the stock bodywork
> of their TR3's.
>
> Tony, I know you are planning to experiment with a different tire, have
> you had the chance to run them yet?
>
> Bob Kramer, I know this is a subject near and dear to you, do you have any
> recommendations?
>
> Does anyone have any experience with the Hooiser Street TD that can offer
> a comparison to the Vintage TD? I know the Street TD is a little shorter
> and wider than the Vintage TD, and some wicked fast cars run them and seem
> to drive where ever they damn well want to on the track.
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