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Re: aerodynamics question

To: BOB KRAMER <rkramer3@austin.rr.com>, fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: aerodynamics question
From: joe dirt <oldskooling@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 12:21:33 -0800 (PST)
The front of the Nascar cars are wedged shaped. Blocking off the grill, the air 
just spills off over the hood. As for blocking off the brake ducts it just 
spills off the sides of the air dam and flows down the side of the car. By 
blocking off the the grill on the TR4 I can just see air becoming trapped under 
the hood and just forming a bigger wall than before. I think leaving it open 
and then prop the back of the hood up and/or add vents like on Jack's car. I 
know there is not enough room under the hood, but you could always tunnel the 
air flowing through the radiator and direct it under the car, or up through the 
hood. You could always mess around with front airdams, but I'm pretty sure 
vintage organizations look shly upon such things :) . Jack you would probally 
find more of an advantage by running a removable tonneau cover. If you are 
serious enough, you could always try to smooth out the underbody of the car. 
Also a performance trick that is used on motorcycles and other race
 cars, is to direct the exhaust at a low pressure area behind or under the 
car/bike. The low pressure pulls exhaust gasses out. I really doubt that these 
cars go fast enough before that idea comes into effect, but it is a thought. 
 
-Bob Adams
 
BOB KRAMER <rkramer3@austin.rr.com> wrote:
With the NASCAR cars, the blocked off air goes over the car and provides 
downforce via their finely sculpted bonnets. With the TR4, air blocked by 
the grill will go where ever it can. I think that the air forced down would 
add to the front end lift from the increase in air under the car. Air that 
escapes up would do the same if it hits the front lip of the hood. With no 
where else to go, you'd probably see some increase in whatever grill opening 
there is . Maybe we can reshape the bonnet leading edge to get air over the 
top and provide downforce?
Bob Kramer
rkramer3@austin.rr.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack W. Drews" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:32 AM
Subject: aerodynamics question


> Question for my fellow tech freaks.
>
> I understand that the frontal area that those little air molecules see is 
> the total profile of the front of the car.
>
> I also understand that the shape of the front changes the wind resistance 
> (pointed object versus a brick).
>
> my question is this: ignoring the cooling situation, if you replace the 
> grille in a TR4 with a flat panel, does this change the aerodynamic 
> resistance?
>
> The NASCAR guys tape off the front opening to go faster...........
>
> uncle jack 

                
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