Thanks Robert I hope you have recieved more than the 6 public responses i
have read, considering yours eforts this far. I would prefer wheel to wheel
At this point its not an option. but time trials make me nervouse and there
is nothing more frustrating to hang back and not be able to make an easy and
safe pass.so you can enjoy the moment and keep the adraline up.I think all
response's should be kept public so we know who's thinking what---- Can we
put togeather 30 Vintage and SCCA prep. cars for a run . I can give a $ 3k
plus plus, paint, Job all the running room they need,there level of
prep.and cost deserve it. Hot shoes on sliks are just gonna have to cool it
== a little ++++++ I like an Aditional $100.00 entry fee. A pre selected 5
member (drivers ) comitty. The 3K goes to the guy's that lost some paint in
the event This is a pandoras box of paramiters, a vertual black hole of
negotiations. But how better way to get to know the guy running next to you.
The ential randomity of the opinions is exciting to me. But I am new at this
and perhaps the pressident is old and never worked any way. Today I will
commit to a couple of autocross slots. Of course that means I wanna run
twice. I want to keep the ball rolling on Bob's and others efforts this far
to bring us togeather --there is a lot of running between Aprial and
August and hopefully I am in one piece and can make the event. This is non
refundable and I think this may be what will hold many of us back from the
commit ment Its been my exp. to be able to regester for an event( SCCA) a
week before with no $$ penalty. If wheel to wheel is what you want nows the
time to say so I vote for wheel to wheel . thanks rob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert M. Lang" <lang@isis.mit.edu>
To: <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: BeaveRun Trial Balloon #2
> Hi,
>
> (Apolgies for the cross-posting)
>
> Okay - we're getting closer to trying to "push" this one. As you may
> recall, about 6 weeks ago, the idea of holding a motorsport event _prior_
> to the VTR/TRF Summer Party came up on this list (and the big Triumphs
> list and probably 6 pack). There was a very positive response from that
> initial trial balloon. And there were quite a few respondents.
>
> So Bruce Stutzman talked "rates" with the management and availability.
> Note: facility availability is not guaranteed for the road course because
> there is a possible event conflict with a car manufacturer.
>
> Here are a couple of possible options:
>
> 1. autocross/solo on the .8 mile kart track (the track is 26 feet wide, so
> it is suitable for a solo event of some kind). This would be CHEAP, figure
> $20 / car 15 car min. for break even.
>
> 2. autocross on the autocross pad. Any course design is doable, this is a
> fairly large paved area. Cost: CHEAP, $20/car, 15 cars min. for break
> even.
>
> 3. time-trial / open track on the road course. This would be on the "north
> track" and would be set up to allow cars with good rollover protection a
> chance to stretch thier feet. It would (likely) be a "no passing" type
> situation for any street cars and it could be set up to allow more general
> practice for cars that are prepped with better safety equipment. Think
> more of a high-speed driver school than wheel-to-wheel racing. Cost:
> EXPENSIVE, $150 / car, 30 car min. for break even. There could be a higher
> per car cost if there was a smaller number of committed participants (e.g.
> $225 for 20 cars etc).
>
> Note: if option 3 is selected, then the rest of the facility could be used
> as part of the package. This would allow autocrossers to autocross and
> road racers to play at higher speeds (if that seems of interest to
> possible participants).
>
> Note: the price of renting the entire track includes corner workers and
> stuff (including insurance) - this is actually pretty reasonable. And it
> helps the participants focus on driving instead of other stuff.
>
> The only drawback to option 3 is getting 30 attendees to commit (or to get
> a sponsor and 20 or so commited racers). We could conceivably work out a
> mixed price structure with option 3 with autocrossers paying one fee and
> road racers another, but I don't want this to get too confusing or
> complicated.
>
> The possibility of a conflict for the track does exist, but a commitment
> SOON might work in our favor. In the event of a conflict for the track,
> there is still the possibility of an autocross event on the kart track or
> autocross pad.
>
> So, who would be willing to COMMIT to this venture? We're talking about
> holding the event on either Weds. or Thurs. (6 or 7 Aug, 2003) at BeaveRun
> race facility about 75 miles from Armagh.
>
> Please submit your comments and preferences to me ASAP, I'll try to
> compile a list to see if we can meet the criteria. Once I get that, I'll
> talk to VTR and/or TRF about co-hosting/advertising or whatever. I'd
> really like to get commitments soon so that we can promote this activity
> (and increase the chance of success).
>
> I think this would be a really great opportunity to get a larger number of
> racing Triumphs to come to VTR this year. Even if not, I would really like
> the VTR autocross to be Triumphs only with VTR rules... I'm pretty sure
> I'm not the only one that plans to attend that is concerned about running
> an autocross with the other British cars. I don't mean to "dis" any other
> marques, I just think a VTR national should have TRIUMPHS competing for
> trophies.
>
> regards,
> rml
>
> p.s. if there is anyone from TRF or VTR on this list that objects to this
> event possibility - PLEASE SPEAK UP (to me directly)! I'll also accept
> positive comments. :-)
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