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Re: Triumph water pumps

To: kaskas@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Triumph water pumps
From: Gt6steve@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:04:20 EDT
Thanks Kas,
That's about what you told me a few years ago so I'm glad you reaffirmed.  
All has been done on my engine as you stated and it worked well until 
recently.  Something's changed and I can't put my finger on what it is.  
First thing I'm gonna try tonight is a different gauge!
Steve

<< I figure that 20 pounds is a good saftey pressure.  You can't get hurt with
 lots of block pressure.  The thing to measure is the presure when the engine
 is under load and revving in the higher ranges .  The high water pump revs
 is what causes the caviatation and loss of pressure. Do this while driving
 or on the dyno ( I did all this on the engine dyno) as the revs go up around
 the 5 grand mark the pressure just starts to slide and goes down quickly
 nearing zero at about 65 to 7 g's.. I've seen the normal block pressure go
 to zero from cavitation at around 5000 revs in several engines.  Most cases
 the pumps were made to cool at normal STREET rpm which is under 3500 in most
 cases ( my view) but at racing revs they are WAY too high fast. Probably
 about 3 water pump to 5 crank will get the thing right. I don't remember the
 exact ratios and a lot is dependant on the pulleys you can find. I remember
 using a 3" on the water pump and the smallest I could find on the crank
 which was in the 1" plus range. (These were Gilmer belt pulleys) These were
 of course in the "olden days" so  probably a lot more is available now.
 AND if you the drive with a Gilmer belt you also pick up a nice piece of
 power @ high revs.
 
 
 From: <Gt6steve@aol.com>
 To: <FOT@autox.team.net>
 Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 9:06 AM
 Subject: Triumph water pumps
 
 
 > Greetings Amici,
 > I spent the weekend playing around with the water pump on the GT6, trying
 > different combinations of things in an effort to improve cooling.  I put a
 > pressure gauge on the block and ran it into the dash with 1/8" copper line
 > thinking to monitor pressures.  I was surprised to find Zero pressure at
 idle
 > (with the rad cap off) and only saw 5-7 PSI when revved.  Putting on the
 cap
 > the pressures came up to about 15 but that was with the temp coming up and
 > not a result of the pump.  A very trustworthy source on this list told me
 I
 > should see 20-25 PSI at the drain plug for best results.  (Right Kas?)
 > So the question, has anyone played around with their pumps, have any idea
 of
 > the flow rates?  Does anybody measure pressures?  I swear I measured 20
 PSI
 > at that fitting years back because I had to adjust the restrictor in the
 > T-stat housing to get it up there.
 > I'm a bit stumped...
 > Steve Smith

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