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From: "O'Farrell, Fergus P \(AS\) via Datsun-roadsters" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 17:15:26 +0000
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For minor cases of varnish build-up (and it does not sound like what the or=
iginator - Gary?  -was finding), here is what I heard from the 2-stroke out=
board motor guys.

"Our first step for varnish build-up is we drain the tank and carb and put =
in the cheapest AM/PM unleaded gas and let it soak overnite. Those new gass=
es are so much like a solvent compared to old leaded gas, that that cures l=
ike 80+% of the gunk build-up problems."
Now they are dealing with 50/50 premix having the gas evaporate and leave t=
he oil turned to varnish in the carb bowl and tank, but just a anecdotal no=
te.

Hardtops:
Not sure where the porthole top was fabbed (most all the west coast dealer =
sold tops came from 2 fiberglass shops here in LA), but that vinyl texture =
is molded into the fiberglass skin.  Sanding to prep for paint is not a bad=
 idea, but it will be hard (outside of some sort of media blast) to sand in=
 the crevices of that texture, so it will be a challenge to get paint to st=
ick consistently.   A mild (brass?) wire brush that lets bristles get into =
crevices might work well.  Rubbing beach sand on it might get into the smal=
l grooves too.
The real concern is if in scuff sanding you sand away any of the texture, l=
eaving it smooth.  If you paint a glossy coating, that smooth area is going=
 to stand out like a sore thumb.
Sand the whole thing smooth?  Good luck trying to do that evenly and not ha=
ve a ton of whoop-de-doos. (technical term)
Plus a lot of itchy dust and noise, labor, etc.
Fill the grooves?  See lack of adhesion due to surface prep, and the top is=
 going to get heavy, even if you use micro-balloons as the filler instead o=
f a solid, like talc or cabosil or the common ones.  (talc is easily sandab=
le, cabosil is not easily sandable.. and if this is chosen, PM me or read u=
p about about safety measures using un-mixed cabosil)

Scuff sand, wipe with a mild solvent (ISO alcohol is a usual choice, doesn'=
t leave a film) and rattle can a coating.  Multiple mist layers always ends=
 up better, no thick layers.

Hope that helps, and was not too long winded.
Fergus O

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">For minor cases of varnish build-up (and it does not=
 sound like what the originator &#8211; Gary?&nbsp; -was finding), here is =
what I heard from the 2-stroke outboard motor guys.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&#8220;Our first step for varnish build-up is we dra=
in the tank and carb and put in the cheapest AM/PM unleaded gas and let it =
soak overnite. Those new gasses are so much like a solvent compared to old =
leaded gas, that that cures like 80&#43;% of
 the gunk build-up problems.&#8221;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Now they are dealing with 50/50 premix having the ga=
s evaporate and leave the oil turned to varnish in the carb bowl and tank, =
but just a anecdotal note.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hardtops:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Not sure where the porthole top was fabbed (most all=
 the west coast dealer sold tops came from 2 fiberglass shops here in LA), =
but that vinyl texture is molded into the fiberglass skin.&nbsp; Sanding to=
 prep for paint is not a bad idea, but
 it will be hard (outside of some sort of media blast) to sand in the crevi=
ces of that texture, so it will be a challenge to get paint to stick consis=
tently. &nbsp;&nbsp;A mild (brass?) wire brush that lets bristles get into =
crevices might work well.&nbsp; Rubbing beach sand
 on it might get into the small grooves too.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The real concern is if in scuff sanding you sand awa=
y any of the texture, leaving it smooth.&nbsp; If you paint a glossy coatin=
g, that smooth area is going to stand out like a sore thumb.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sand the whole thing smooth?&nbsp; Good luck trying =
to do that evenly and not have a ton of whoop-de-doos. (technical term)<o:p=
></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Plus a lot of itchy dust and noise, labor, etc.<o:p>=
</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Fill the grooves?&nbsp; See lack of adhesion due to =
surface prep, and the top is going to get heavy, even if you use micro-ball=
oons as the filler instead of a solid, like talc or cabosil or the common o=
nes.&nbsp; (talc is easily sandable, cabosil
 is not easily sandable.. and if this is chosen, PM me or read up about abo=
ut safety measures using un-mixed cabosil)
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Scuff sand, wipe with a mild solvent (ISO alcohol is=
 a usual choice, doesn&#8217;t leave a film) and rattle can a coating.&nbsp=
; Multiple mist layers always ends up better, no thick layers.<o:p></o:p></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hope that helps, and was not too long winded.<o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Fergus O<o:p></o:p></p>
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